coogar:

basic rules written by who? this isn't facebook or myspace where halfwits of your ilk are roaming freely. why are you even interested in a discourse between me & someone else? what's your stake in it? was i talking to you? your crap quality education never edified you never to put your snout until you are spoken to?

go and sit down.
angela merkel = matriarchy!
america = matriarchy!

you are such a dullard - internet is about the only place you and i can exchange words. you would be too poor in spirit to cope in the real world.

go & do your own research about teenage pregnancy. if you know any country worse than the US, kindly come & prove my chart wrong. don't distract me with your ebonics & if this discourse is too nerdy for you, kindly fück off.........nicely!

EnlightenedSoul:
The higher percentages are understandable considering population size. Your argument was based on it being uncontainable. Well, it IS contained, and has in fact been on the DECLINE in both the cases of drug abuse and TP. Fact.

Has the gun ban in the UK stopped murders? Do you that since the gun ban post the Ryan shooting in '87 and several other incidents, gun crimes have DOUBLED in the UK! I don't think, no I KNOW, that an outright ban wouldn't solve anything. Your IQ must be a triple digit in the negative integer for thinking so.

You said homosexuals were never accepted and then shot yourself in the foot by claiming that gay bars were around for eons. I merely pointed out your falsity. Own up!

Get real, no one's forcing anything on you. Your arguments are weak. You're increasingly depending on rants and ad hominem. Pray, what does your animal abuse fantasy have to do with when homosexuality was "accepted"? Clearly someone's mind is in the gutter.

LMAO present facts please. Where are these many Christian Americans with many wives in their homes? Where are they hiding?? Pure comedy!

Is it those darn Mormons? 'Cuz I[i]live[/i] in the Mormon state. .

Wowzers. Divorce is causing people to commit crime, and die premature deaths? That's some dark comedy! Who said anyone forced them? That they were not forced into a union means they cannot exit if all else fails? By all means, do so.

carefreewannabe:
You asking whose basic rules these are is the peak of ignorance. You are clearly a product of a failed education system and I know that I am not the first who noticed it but I sincerly feel sorry for you.

Is it how you quote people? Is it what you learned at school?

I would not talk with you offline, I carefully choose the people I surround myself with. The reason why I talk with you online is that I am on the mission to stop people like you spreading lies and deceiving others who did not have the privilege of a good education either.

Did I say the USA did not have the highest rates? Is it how you quote people again?

coogar:

says the social reprobate that insinuated female presidency equates matriarchy. you epitomise sterling miseducation. you want to be spoonfed in the 21st century? how does it make you feel that your thalamus & cerebellum have swapped places?



in school, i learnt that people like you received 80% of their formal education under a mango tree. you have absolutely nothing to add to any discussion but smileys. i have never seen you argue intelligently - all you crave about is smileys. just don't marry a fool like yourself.....spare the rest of us cos at this rate, you will produce idïots!




who wants to talk to a brain-dead maggot like you? intelligence is the first criteria i look for when socialising. your female body parts mean squat to me. if you are not intelligent, you are the same as a nanny goat in labour as far as i am concerned.




so if you actually believe USA have the highest teenage pregnancy rate, why then were you screaming like a rhesus monkey when i produced my chart? see how this mgbeke villager is trying to shift her position......

bloody hell, i have seen more intelligent silverbacks at chester zoo.

coogar:

population size? why are china & india not high on the charts if it's about population size? do you people even read at all? the stat is pro-rata. it's per 1,000 teenage girls, nothing to do with population size. how would the comparison be fair if the statistics counted only sheer numbers?

you want to compare UK to the US in terms of violent crimes? the UK is 66 million population, they don't even have up to 100,000 prisoners and that includes scotland, wales & northern ireland. you want to compare that to your close to 2 million prisoners?

stereotypical homösexual relationships behind closed doors have always existed but they remained in the closets. it became an issue when it's now legally permissible for 2 faggöts to go to church & marry. gay bars have always been around.....no one cared what they did in there, it's behind closed doors.

don't complain when you can't take it - you started the ad hominem attacks. remember "foaming in the mouth"? i am peeved when fools throw the first shots and then play the victim card. stop moaning - keep your eyes on the ball.

i don't care where you live.....an estimated 100,000 heads are practising polygamy in america. if 100,000 isn't many then i dunno what is.

And what happens to the primary victims(children) of divorce? are you kidding me? what's the long term consequences of children of divorce? come on - tell us what becomes of them in the long run with absent dads? you are so clueless!

can't be bothered to address the other issues you typed as you have not advanced your points by a single jot. you are clueless, myopic, with no gift of foresight. divorce is singlehandedly responsible for the premature death of men, women & children.

carefreewannabe:
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
Please, go back to school.

coogar:

nah, i don't need more education than i already have. sharp minds don't spend their entire adulthood in school. your lack of cognitive reasoning is the reason you are still in school.

the same fool that criticised a chart that says america's got the highest teenage pregnancy is now shifting ground that she never said so.
some mothers do have them.

carefreewannabe:

We are in the 21st century. Wake up.

spiralwedge:

I used to believe that we are, until this kind of stuff happened to someone close to me. I saw, I heard.... now I believe

EnlightenedSoul:
You still fail to understand the point.

Fail again. What's "2million" prisoners with a grand population of 316 million? The fact is, Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries! And they particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

But that's beside, I pointed the UK out because it's relevant to you, but the factual research studies across numerous countries attest to the same. It all supports that GUN BANS are counterproductive!

We were talking about the acceptance of homosexuality in society, for which I provided figures, and not about gay marriage which is another chapter all it's own. It was always a societal topic of debate - hence the polls dating as earlier than the '70's.

I'm not playing the victim card I simply made an observation, you tend to rant and attack my intelligence. It is what it is.

No way! Even the reality shows that are out about "sister wives" have only one of the "spouses" legally married to the man. They've been facing lawsuits regardless. It's illegal! There's no way to gain proper stats for something like this seeing those engaging in religious polygamy marriages despite the law do so in hiding.

Victims lol. Go ahead, tell me. This should be good. Present facts please.

Pure comedy. No worries, you're circling again anyway. Like I said, since you're full of clues, tell me how! And what is your standing remedy?

coogar:


US - 1.5/316 = 1:158
UK - 0.1/66 = 1: 660

if you are not scared 1 out of 158 people in america is in prison then i have overestimated your intelligence.

stop arguing against logic
gun bans aren't counterproductive - use UK as a case study. no one carries guns here not even the regular cops. it keeps everyone safe. the rate of gun violence is nonexistent. criminals aren't desperate cos there's no capital punishment. in your neck of the woods, it's a do or die affair. the mobster knows before leaving his home that he would get killed if caught - his mentality is set to kill as many as he can before he gets killed & what you get is a complete cycle of gun violence

were gay people marrying in the 70s? whatever they did in those days was behind closed doors. they were on the downlow. no one cared. the situation is quite different now, its now in your face.

but the estimate says 100,000. if you have any research study that says otherwise, kindly present it.

present facts that children raised without their fathers are likelier to end up committing crimes? likelier to commit suicide, likelier to use drugs, etc?
are you a philistine?
remedy to your cluelessness?
the truth is - you are past your formative years and thus you are no longer trainable. there's no remedy to your myopia - just find a smart man to marry & pray fervently your genes are recessive so your offspring can be saved.

EnlightenedSoul:
Circling again! I've already explained this. Unless my previous posts are disappearing, you should really refer to them prior to re-asking your questions. Talk about redundant.

According to studies, gun bans are counterproductive. Your street mobster analogy doesn't hold water in the world of facts. So next question, are you open to factual research, or no?

Opinions are like assholes, some of us prefer factual evidence.

That's beside the point. Because again, we were NOT talking about gay marriage. Those stats were on the publics opinion on homosexuality in general. Holy crap, stop circling. If it helps, think of it in terms you can understand: every time you circle, a couple divorces and they and their children die prematurely

Missing the point once again! How could I give you a source after I just now criticized?
Quite frankly, I was sitting here wondering who's asscheeks you'd culled that number from.

Just as I've observed - forming rants and my attacking my intelligence with zero presence of facts and viable statements with regards to the topic at hand. This is some "debate".

Instead of paving your points home, you're stressing and praying fervently about my marriage and resultant offspring like some dusty matchmaker who just set her last match.

Thanks, but no thanks.

coogar:

explaining what?
stop typing like an illiterate. america isn't the most populous country in the world. china & india are way more populous - how come their prisoners are a fraction of your country. you want to blame the criminal mentality of your country of residence on population?

you disgrace your certificate!

how can gun bans be counterproductive? are you a troll? how many school shootings have we had in the last 24 months alone in that cursed country of yours? someone killed innocent chics because he couldn't get laid & you are here talking nonsense that a gun ban would be counterproductive?

all the factual evidence i have provided were being swept under the carpet!

yes..... divorce has a negative effect on all the individuals in a marriage. i would be back with the shocking stats.

stop acting slow. show us a proof that says otherwise. show me proof that there aren't close to 100,000 people in america practising polygamy. it's very simple.

teenage pregnancy rate - no facts?
drug usage by country - no facts?
prison statistics - no facts?

hehehehe - you have reached the point of no return. not even google can help you this time. it's end of the road for you.

take the advice & stop being salty!

freshdude2: Not a problem sweety. Morality is personal, that's why armed robbers pay tithe and "seek the face of God" befor going out on their endeavours. And never mind the iincest disgust you feel now, perhaps in your children's generation it will be accorded the same respect as homosexualiity. It's all a matter of time, all it takes is a group of courageous perverts and before you know it....Slow and steady, they say, wins the race.

*Here, a handkerchief for your tears. You're welcome.

EnlightenedSoul:

Such a preposterous assertion that impugns simple logic.

You're steering towards such a ridiculous and unfounded causal relationship. If homosexuality is, indeed, a slippery slope leading to incèst in upcoming generations, then that would imply that 'traditional' heterosexuality was the slippery slope that lead to homosexuality. As if homosexuality is some sort of necessary precursor, never-minding that all the other usual comparisons i.e heterosexuality, polygamy, necrophilia, pedophilia, beastiality, incèst, are distinctly and categorically existent all their own.

Homosexuality will lead to incèst, he says.

* What exactly are we mourning here - your failed logic?

EnlightenedSoul:

Such a preposterous assertion that impugns simple logic.

You're steering towards such a ridiculous and unfounded causal relationship. If homosexuality is, indeed, a slippery slope leading to incèst in upcoming generations, then that would imply that 'traditional' heterosexuality was the slippery slope that lead to homosexuality. As if homosexuality is some sort of necessary precursor, never-minding that all the other usual comparisons i.e heterosexuality, polygamy, necrophilia, pedophilia, beastiality, incèst, are distinctly and categorically existent all their own.

Homosexuality will lead to incèst, he says.

* What exactly are we mourning here - your failed logic?

freshdude2: Don't be the clown who twists other people's arguments to make yourself sound smart. Perhaps, my earlier post is the slippery slope that made you into an idiiot.

And oh, pedoplilia will soon officially be made an illness as against a crime. Which means pedophiles might be required to see specialists rather than being incarcerated and at worst be confined to mental institutions which, itself, is highly improbable.

It's all about freedom and what one chooses to find reprehensible or disgusting. If Man A is free to fvck Man B without eyebrows being raised, why should Man A fvcking his sister right in the pusssy or fvcking an under-16 be disgusting to someone else. It's all a matter of preference, wouldn't you agree?

I've never seen anybody fvck their sibling in public, so, that should be naturally be noone's business if they do it behind closed doors.

Nah, we're mourning your comprehension deficiency.

EnlightenedSoul:
See if you didn't state this exact question, word for word, and see if I'm not in your mentions answering it.

You're redundant to the extreme.

How juvenile!
Analogy, conjecture and more blabbing - as if by opposing a gun ban, I've denied the existence of gun crimes. *facepalm*

So...are you ready for the facts on how gun bans are counterproductive, or are we sticking to your fantasy?

Factual evidence, my left cheek! All you do circle around my statements and present the most irrelevant of "facts" to the narrative. You steer AWAY

- You say TP's and drug abuse is UNCONTAINABLE in the US and freedom is chaos.
- I provide facts on how it IS contained and,in fact, drastically on the DECLINE thereby proving your argument moot.
- You, then show me a chart comparing random WESTERN nations to the US!

Does your "data chart" in threaten my stats and prior point in any capacity? Nope!

On arguing that western freedom causes chaos -Does the US have more freedoms than the UK, Norway, Italy, New Zealand and others still who's stats are negligible at best? Nope!

Is it not obvious that there are other elements at play? If freedom = chaos, then why are they not right up there with the US in both TP and the consumption of cannabis?

It's the same with "drug" abuse chart. Are we really surprised by the "lack" of cocaine abuse in CHINA? Get real.

Oh! Already that sounds a lot more realistic! Much much more realistic than "Divorce cause the premature death of men, women, and children", don't you think?

- yes, irrelevant facts as explained above
- yes, irrelevant facts as explained above.
- To which I formed a response, only to have it regurgitated exactly 3 times now...and counting.

Actually, I have background knowledge on this topic. Google could've done you a gr8 service had you used it properly. This discussion has been at the end of its road for quite some time now. Circling, circling, circling like a vulture, and then regurgitating like one too..

Advice from a deaf & dusty matchmaker with regurgitate on him - one that has trouble steering home a relevant coherent point?

njokusboy: . I read dat post like 10 times and I didn't see where he said that homosexxuality was a precursor for incest.... He was merely pointing out the fact dat in the long run, incest would become acceptable same way homesexxuality is now in western communities.....sometime ago, homosexxuality was forbidden, if homosexxuality which was forbidden, some time ago is as common as skating today in America, what stops incest from progressing likewise... They afterall follow the same mentality, its between adults, its consensual, a proof that "they were born dat way" could also be established/invented... Its dat simple...

freshdude2: One would be forgiven to think so, but EnlightenedSoul is so bright she can decipher un-typed words and fore-tell what one would say in three days time and kill such arguments before they even arise. *smh. If that's enlightenment, I'd rather manage this darkened state of mine.

EnlightenedSoul:
The higher percentages are understandable considering the population size. Your argument was based on it being uncontainable. Well, it IS contained, and has in fact been on the DECLINE in both the cases of drug abuse and TP. FACT.

freshdude2: One would be forgiven to think so, but EnlightenedSoul is so bright she can decipher un-typed words and fore-tell what one would say in three days time and kill such arguments before they even arise. *smh. If that's enlightenment, I'd rather manage this darkened state of mine.

njokusboy: . Personally, I find in'c3'st more tolerable than homosexxuality... Both are repulsive..... However I find the thought of a man sleeping with his sister an easier pill to swallow than the thought of a man sticking his d'i'cko in another mans an'u's..... It should also be noted that wat we term in'c3'st was a tradition to some people... The pharoahs of egypt were said to marry their sisters or cousins as it was unthinkable for them to marry beneath their class nd they wanted to maintain the royal bloodline... If pple who want to marry their sisters who are legal arise today, America would be left with no choice than to grant their request... All they have to do is use the same instruments homosexxuals employed... And maybe have a popular figure equal to elton john to represent them.... Homosexxuals are no better than they..... All hail America, the land of the free, the land where everything goes....

coogar:

america - a swamp of piss!
polygamy = illegal
homösexuality = legal.

it defies all sorta logic known to man.

coogar:

she's a semi-illiterate.
the irony is her username that says enlightened soul. her soul has no single ray of light in it. see how she's completely changed position when she saw factual evidence of teenage pregnancy all over the world.

this was her initial reaction.....


in other words, america's 300 million population is the reason they have higher percentages in drug use, teenage mothers, etc. it's baffling that china & india with humongous population don't have these higher percentages.

don't waste your time on this chic, freshdude2. she wouldn't be able to form the letter "O" with the base of a coke bottle.

njokusboy: . Personally, I find in'c3'st more tolerable than homosexxuality... Both are repulsive..... However I find the thought of a man sleeping with his sister an easier pill to swallow than the thought of a man sticking his d'i'cko in another mans an'u's..... It should also be noted that wat we term in'c3'st was a tradition to some people... The pharoahs of egypt were said to marry their sisters or cousins as it was unthinkable for them to marry beneath their class nd they wanted to maintain the royal bloodline... If pple who want to marry their sisters who are legal arise today, America would be left with no choice than to grant their request... All they have to do is use the same instruments homosexxuals employed... And maybe have a popular figure equal to elton john to represent them.... Homosexxuals are no better than they..... All hail America, the land of the free, the land where everything goes....

pickabeau1:

I don't even get what the debate is about now

Is it gay marriage or incêst

Last I checked it was who is socially more desirable black males or females

njokusboy: . I read dat post like 10 times and I didn't see where he said that homosexxuality was a precursor for incest.... He was merely pointing out the fact dat in the long run, incest would become acceptable same way homesexxuality is now in western communities.....sometime ago, homosexxuality was forbidden, if homosexxuality which was forbidden, some time ago is as common as skating today in America, what stops incest from progressing likewise... They afterall follow the same mentality, its between adults, its consensual, a proof that "they were born dat way" could also be established/invented... Its dat simple...

EnlightenedSoul:

He clearly stated that the [supposed] acceptance of homosexuality in this generation would lead to incèst being highly esteemed in upcoming generations, making homosexuality the precursor for incèst in confines of his statement. As pointed out, it's a fallacy plain and simple. In that trend, what was homosexuality's precursor on it's road to acceptability?

Consensual or not, homosexuality and incèst are not the same.

pickabeau1:


Just a question

If a man sleeps with his son...which is it

Homosexual incêst