pickabeau1:
ok....u talk as if abortion is just akin to a bandaid on a cut. No problem though... i dont blame u ..na all this pro choice army that have likened it as such

abortion isn't a heart surgery as well.....
there can only be complications when people go to quacks. birthing the child even carries more mortality risk than the abortion proper.

Im looking at it from the angle at what is best for society. im surprised its the so called feminists arguing against abortion however

because they know abortion is absolute! there's no failure in it. condom failure in a year stands at 15%. it means 15 condoms will break if 100 men have sex. so should those unlucky men be hooked for 18 years because their condoms broke?

how can you not see the bias here?

BABE!:


Ok, ok let's slow down. You're coming at me with too many emotions.

When I'm ready to have a child after marriage, it's still a bunch of cells that lack conscious until the baby is born and well developed. Married couples do abort. Plus, I don't remember what happened when I was in the womb.

I don't lack respect for human life. More like, I'm very logical. I can also make the argument that you lack respect for human life since you use condoms; and condoms kill sperms, the basis of human life.

Sorry. Its still lack of respect for human life no matter how you want to paint it. for the simple reason that you are getting rid of something that has life, a human embryo, you still lack respect for human life. You are talking this way because abortion is as common as pure water. Abortion is nothing even to ladies themselves. Its just a way to make responsibilities disappear. Ladies who fear to abort and refuse to do it are fully aware of the risks involved and how life threatening it is coupled with religious beliefs. Should such ladies be blamed for refusing tto show lack of regard for life? So you see, no regard for human life is the bane of the society. The same society everybody is trying to please.

njokusboy: . Lmao, I was actually heading somewhere.... If any man u sleep with wants to have a child since he didn't say otherwise, dat means u have quite a number of babies..... Oya answer the question, how many cute smart men have u slept with?

Just 7....
I'm a good girl

As i said earlier...im interested in the societal good
You have great points and it was formed from the injustice meted upon men by women who got the laws too from abandonment by baby daddies

See chain reaction upon reaction

we need to look at a better way.. a middle way that benefits everyone


WOMEN CLOSE YOUR LEGS AND OPEN IT IN A RELATIONSHIP GOING SOMEWHERE
THE CONSEQuENCES OF SEXXUAL INDISCRETIONS ARE NOT EQUAL FOR MEN N WOMEN

coogar:

abortion isn't a heart surgery as well.....
there can only be complications when people go to quacks. birthing the child even carries more mortality risk than the abortion proper.



because they know abortion is absolute! there's no failure in it. condom failure in a year stands at 15%. it means 15 condoms will break if 100 men have sex. so should those unlucky men be hooked for 18 years because their condoms broke?

how can you not see the bias here?

njokusboy: . Take what life?? The cell What was ur grade in biology?

That's your opinion and I respect that.

Life starts at Conception.. My opinion.

What if the latter is the lady's opinion? Still gonna go ahead and overrule hers and forcefully adopt yours ??

Lesson: Use protection to avoid all these brouhaha or wait

alutacontinua:

Just 7....
I'm a good girl

. Lmao, so u have 7 children... Oya clap for urself... In any case, my point is made....

Sophyrocks:

Sorry. Its still lack of respect for human life no matter how you want to paint it. for the simple reason that you are getting rid of something that has life, a human embryo, you still lack respect for human life. You are talking this way because abortion is as common as pure water. Abortion is nothing even to ladies themselves. Its just a way to make responsibilities disappear. Ladies who fear to abort and refuse to do it are fully aware of the risks involved and how life threatening it is. So you see, no regard for human lfe is the bane of the society. The same society everybody is trying to please.

So you're saying I'm the bane of my society? May Zeus forgive you.

It's not that risky. Like Coogar said, it's not a heart surgery. Except you're using a metal hanger or some concoction, it's a pretty simple process with minimal risk.

BABE!:


So you're saying I'm the bane of my society? May Zeus forgive you.

It's not that risky. Like Coogar said, it's not a heart surgery. Except you're using a metal hanger or some concoction, it's a pretty simple process with minimal risk.

Are you a worshipper of Zeus?

Of course, you would say its not that risky. YOU ARE A MAN NOT A WOMAN!!! Do you get pregnant? do you abort children? Have you gone through the abortion process before? What a joke!!! LOL!! what you just said is laughable!! How about the numerous females who die from it? How about those who come out with cervical cancer or any other ailment? and you sit there typing that it aint risky??

Now your lack of respect for human life is amazing!!!

Im shocked!!

BABE!:

It's not that risky. Like Coogar said, it's not a heart surgery. Except you're using a metal hanger or some concoction, it's a pretty simple process with minimal risk.

Not that simple in my neck of the woods.. Synonymous to a whole nine Operating Room procedure and days of recovery too.

Not pretty simple atall.

Ewuro1:

That's your opinion and I respect that.

Life starts at Conception.. My opinion.

What if the latter is the lady's opinion? Still gonna go ahead and overrule hers and forcefully adopt yours ??

Lesson: Use protection to avoid all these brouhaha or wait

. Lmao, its not my opinion, its a fact,,,, why don't you tell your biology teachers your opinion.... U re no biologist so u have no opinion on this.... Before 24 weeks, there is no life, d thing is no better than a sp'e'rm cell which men waste anytime they ej'ac'u'late or an ovum which you wash down the drain anytime you m'en'stru' ate... Else we'd all be murderers... Life only starts when we have an entire system... Else cutting ur fingernails or hair is murder..... If the latter is her opinion which is against established facts, then taking care of the kid alone should also follow her opinion in tow... Why should I be held responsible for her opinion? I always use protection, if protection fails nko, birth control pills come to the rescue.. If she says she doesn't want, tor, DAT NA HER BUSINESS....

pickabeau1: As i said earlier...im interested in the societal good
You have great points and it was formed from the injustice meted upon men by women who got the laws too from abandonment by baby daddies

i am not speaking for deadbeat dads here. any man in marriage that abandons his wife & kids is worse than an infidel. my focus is on unmarried partners......

See chain reaction upon reaction
we need to look at a better way.. a middle way that benefits everyone

the middle ground here is that women should be made to consider abortion while they still can. if she refuses then she has to bear the costs alone - the man wants nothing from that child, he's become a spërm donor.

WOMEN CLOSE YOUR LEGS AND OPEN IT IN A RELATIONSHIP GOING SOMEWHERE
THE CONSEUQENCES OF SEXXUAL INDISCRETIONS ARE NOT EQUAL FOR MEN N WOMEN

except that the consequences of sexual indiscretion is now a lucrative business for women. all they have to do is to get pregnant & the cash cow will start coughing up money to fund her lifestyle.

Sophyrocks:

Are you a worshipper of Zeus?

Of course, you would say its not that risky. YOU ARE A MAN NOT A WOMAN!!! Do you get pregnant? do you abort children? Have you gone through the abortion process before? What a joke!!! LOL!! what you just said is laughable!! How about the numerous females who die from it? How about those who come out with cervical cancer or any other ailment? and you sit there typing that it aint risky??

Now your lack of respect for human life is amazing!!!

Im shocked!!

Why would a man have a moniker that says "BABE!" ?
and why are you so shocked? This is the first time you're having an argument on abortion?

coogar:

i am not speaking for deadbeat dads here. any man in marriage that abandons his wife & kids is worse than an infidel. my focus is on unmarried partners......

When i said baby daddies.. i did not mean men in marriage.. Traditionally if a fathered a child, you were expected to marry the woman
With time n marraiges not being forced, governments did not want to be burdened with the cost of childcare and consequences of peoples sexxual liaisons, they just lumped it on the baby daddy

that led to where we are now

the middle ground here is that women should be made to consider abortion while they still can. if she refuses then she has to bear the costs alone - the man wants nothing from that child, he's become a spërm donor.

Noted...

except that the consequences of sexual indiscretion is now a lucrative business for women. all they have to do is to get pregnant & the cash cow will start coughing up money to fund her lifestyle.

LOL.....

BABE!:

Why would a man have a moniker that says "BABE!" ?
and why are you so shocked? This is the first time you're having an argument on abortion?

So you are a female? your posts sort of implied that you are a male. Let me ask you, why would a female as you think Abortion aint risky at all?

I have discussed abortion many times with different people. For you to term whats inside the womb of a woman as 'Bunch of cells without consciousness' made me shocked.

Njokusboy ... Go and sit your crusty bottom in the naughty corner make I hear word jare... Opoko!

Facts eh? You can feel that 'cell' beats at 2weeks of conception... Go and tell your 'facts' to fertility clinic specialists that grows & transfer embryos for a living...

What do you know?

pickabeau1:

WOMEN CLOSE YOUR LEGS AND OPEN IT IN A RELATIONSHIP GOING SOMEWHERE
THE CONSEQuENCES OF SEXXUAL INDISCRETIONS ARE NOT EQUAL FOR MEN N WOMEN

Tell them.

Not equal atall.

Sophyrocks:

So you are a female? your posts sort of implied that you are a male. Let me ask you, why would a female as you think Abortion aint risky at all?

I have discussed abortion many times with different people. For you to term whats inside the womb of a woman as 'Bunch of cells without consciousness' made me shocked.

My gender is inconsequential. The topic is abortion. I didn't say it wasn't risky. Everything is risky anyway. I said, it has minimal risk, if done by the right person.

The fact that quacks do it tells me it's a pretty straightforward process. It's rare to find a quack neurosurgeon; there's a reason.

That's the beauty of the forum. You get to read views and opinions that would shake your spirit.

Ewuro1:

Tell them.

Not equal atall.

i agree 100 pc..

on ur points on life.. u also know while admirable, ,that is not the prevailing philosophy as it causes big political issues

lifers vs choicers.... tragic in my opinion

It does not change the legal facts, those clump of cells are just not a person until they are past a certain date..

pickabeau1:
When i said baby daddies.. i did not mean men in marriage.. Traditionally if a fathered a child, you were expected to marry the woman
With time n marraiges not being forced, governments did not want to be burdened with the cost of childcare and consequences of peoples sexxual liaisons, they just lumped it on the baby daddy

that led to where we are now

i agree - the government's intrusion in marriage caused all these nonsense. they have paved the way for all kinda fraud - there are men in america paying child support for kids that aren't biologically theirs even after they found out the truth. it's a clusterfück!

the government should become tougher - make the mothers receiving child support produce the receipts of what they are buying for the child. more often than not, these selfish women use that money on themselves to get spa treatment, pedicure, etc it's called child support, not mother support! every penny she gets should be going towards that child & nothing else.

pickabeau1:

i agree 100 pc..

on ur points on life.. u also know while admirable, ,that is not the prevailing philosophy as it causes big political issues

lifers vs choicers.... tragic in my opinion

Pickabeau, when I told you France will knock Nigeria out, you called me a hater/pessimist. **clears throat**

Ewuro1: Njokusboy ... Go and sit your crusty bottom in the naughty corner make I hear word jare... Opoko!

Facts eh? You can feel that 'cell' beats at 2weeks of conception... Go and tell your 'facts' to fertility clinic specialists that grows & transfer embryos for a living...

What do you know?

. Lmao, what do you mean?? I thinks its you that ought to sit ur fat a's's down.. Opoko... Fertility clinics transfer embryos for a living not babies, what about s'p'e'rm banks, do they transfer children for a living?? The heart doesn't start beating until six weeks and that doesn't even make it a baby, do you know what an embryo is, when u want to prepare ur favorite omelette nd u crack an egg, dat dark spot on the yolk, dats an embryo... So eating dat egg is now equivalent to murdering a chicken abi At dat point sef, they are not even attached to a uterine wall yet, mitotic division is yet to happen. The sperm cell is simply dancing kukere with the ovum, and they call the dance style a zygote.... Its not a baby, fertility clinics play with them any how they like and issue them out as they wish, if its a living child would they handle it that way....if for instance the embryo falls nd breaks from where it was stored, would you sue the clinic for murder? Hell no... Go back to ur SS1 biology text book...

BABE!:


Pickabeau, when I told you France will knock Nigeria out, you called me a hater/pessimist. **clears throat**

No ma'am... i never did such... i just said u were being unfair on them. You claimed u had no expectations for them which is fair enough

I said they have gone beyond expectations as a second round berth is a reasonable expectation

Anything after that is a bonus

Meanwhile my favorite player is about to star but why do i find this image annoying

BABE!:


My gender is inconsequential. The topic is abortion. I didn't say it wasn't risky. Everything is risky anyway. I said, it has minimal risk, if done by the right person.

The fact that quacks do it tells me it's a pretty straightforward process. It's rare to find a quack neurosurgeon; there's a reason.

That's the beauty of the forum. You get to read views and opinions that would shake your spirit.

You have already exposed your gender so no biggie.

All doctors know that an alteration in thee female reproductive system CAN result to something else. Since abortion has minimal risks as you said, what is the guarantee that for every female who goes for it, she won't get to meet a quack to spoil her womb forever? Even a so called professional can make errors. what is the guarantee that a complication will not erupt? what is the guarantee that cervical cancer will not emerge overtime as a result of undetected error after abortion?

Fair enough.... though paternity fraud is not the issue here

however there are merits in your argument

coogar:

i agree - the government's intrusion in marriage caused all these nonsense. they have paved the way for all kinda fraud - there are men in america paying child support for kids that aren't biologically theirs even after they found out the truth. it's a clusterfück!

the government should become tougher - make the mothers receiving child support produce the receipts of what they are buying for the child. more often than not, these selfish women use that money on themselves to get spa treatment, pedicure, etc it's called child support, not mother support! every penny she gets should be going towards that child & nothing else.

Sophyrocks:

You have already exposed your gender so no biggie.

All doctors know that an alteration in thee female reproductive system CAN result to something else. Since abortion has minimal risks as you said, what is the guarantee that for every female who goes for it, she won't get to meet a quack to spoil her womb forever? Even a so called professional can make errors. what is the guarantee that a complication will not erupt? what is the guarantee that cervical cancer will not emerge overtime as a result of undetected error after abortion?

What is the guarantee that complications will not erupt when giving birth to a child ?

Sophyrocks:

My question is very pertinent to this discourse because its multi-faceted and interdependent. in fact ive got questions for you.

So why does a man who claims to have a brain exclude pregnancy as a consequence alongside pleasure? Did biology not teach you that when a man mates with a woman, pregnancy is to occur? why the focus on pleasure alone? shows a lack of wisdom on the man's part.

2ndly, why castigate single mothers for being single mothers when the likes of you refuse responsibilities? what does lack of responsibility result to in the first place? Isnt it single motherhood?

3rdly, why castigate ladies who abort? why impose on ladies to give birth 1st before marriage for fear of marrying ladies with punctured wombs? how did the punctured wombs come about? is it not part of cleaning up the mess the likes of you create? So why condemn them for doing your bidding?

4thly, dnt you think focusing on just things that benefit your s*e*xual urges shows a lack of responsibility as a human and lack of respect for hman life? God knows why he made it possible that when a man mates with a woman, a life will be conceived. this is why he specifically gave the gift of s*e*x to married couples alone. He knows that when a life is born within the sacred arrangement of marriage, the child is assured a home when BOTH the man and woman care for the child. This is to show that its MORALLY right for a man to be responsible over his child even when he isnt ready for it.

Firstly, according to biology, pregnancy will not occur everytime there is unprotected sex. Also, through biology, we know the functions and uses of contraceptives and abortion.

Secondly, I will castigate a single mother who had ample warning about her mate's unwillingness to have offspring and still went ahead to birth. It is simple, straightforward logic. If I don't want to have a child with you, feel free to not sleep with me, if you want to fvck me so bad insist on protection, if you'd like my diick without a condom, take a pill get an injection. But by all means don't fvcking get preggers. And btw, that slant about likes of me not being responsible is insulting, unnecessary and I take exception to that. I think an apology is in order. Use your words carefully.

Thirdly, I think I'm not going to continue this conersation. Thanks for your time.

pickabeau1:

i agree 100 pc..

on ur points on life.. u also know while admirable, ,that is not the prevailing philosophy as it causes big political issues

lifers vs choicers.... tragic in my opinion

It does not change the legal facts, those clump of cells are just not a person until they are past a certain date..

Oh I know it's not a prevailing philosophy alright and doesn't change the "legal Facts" about Life, I'm just championing my own personal conviction that's all

21st century Evolution has made almost every righteous path Tragic IMO (ETT)

but it is what it is as I guess.

Very Sad.

Make I go chop bf jare.

Its not today

Roe v Wade was hailed as a victory for womens rights back then
Foetuses are aliens...u can get rid of them..snip snip

That is the consequence today

Ewuro1:

Oh I know it's not a prevailing philosophy alright and doesn't change the "legal Facts" about Life, I'm just championing my own personal conviction that's all

21st century Evolution has made almost every righteous path Tragic IMO (ETT)

but it is what it is as I guess.

Very Sad.

Make I go chop bf jare.

BABE!:


What is the guarantee that complications will not erupt when giving birth to a child ?

The probability of getting complications is way higher than not getting at all oooo. As long as quacks are evrywhere and abortion s relatively cheap in some areas, as long as you are making alterations on the female reproductive system, you cannot call that a MINIMAL RISK!! Life threatening risk fa!! Haba.

BABE!:

What is the guarantee that complications will not erupt when giving birth to a child ?

she's more at risk if she carries the baby to term than aborting it. that's the trick these women use to force parenthood on the man.

researchers found that women were about 14 times more likely to die during or after giving birth to a live baby than to die from complications of an abortion.

pickabeau1:

No i dont need the law to do right by my kid
Youve not answered my q


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Are u watching Wimbledon...
Just see how Eugenie Bouchard is being blown away by P Kvitova in 2 straight sets... boring


Tomorrow you will see the Titans play

Federer vs Djokovic

This isn't about you, it's about the millions of other unwilling fathers who are forced to dole out cash regularly for kids they didn't want.


Wimbledon ke, I'm out o. Money making tins.

fresh_dude:
Firstly, according to biology, pregnancy will not occur everytime there is unprotected sex. Also, through biology, we know the functions and uses of contraceptives and abortion.

Secondly, I will castigate a single mother who had ample warning about her mate's unwillingness to have offspring and still went ahead to birth. It is simple, straightforward logic. If I don't want to have a child with you, feel free to not sleep with me, if you want to fvck me so bad insist on protection, if you'd like my diick without a condom, take a pill get an injection. But by all means don't fvcking get preggers. And btw, that slant about likes of me not being responsible is insulting, unnecessary and I take exception to that. I think an apology is in order. Use your words carefully.

Thirdly, I think I'm not going to continue this conersation. Thanks for your time.

In the End, everyone should lock up!! DNT HAVE THE S*E*X IF YOU DNT WANT RESPONSIBILITIES!! kpomkwem! Biology will not teach you otherwise. It still teaches everyone the pros and cons of contraceptives or trying to prevent pregnancies!! Use at your own risk and dnt complain if you aint getting children in future!!