rigarmortis:

tell that to the woman sentenced to death in sudan, tell that to the citizens of Saudi Arabia and yemen who if they are born muslim or have a muslim parent can never convert to any religion otherwise they face death penalty, if you are a fetus and you are unfortunate enough to be in the womb of a turban wearing female in Saudi, you are already classified as a muslim

tbaba1234:

My point is, you say the bible has all these direction is life sciences but even the ones that are there are not been followed

monsuru560: ALLAHU AKBAR KABIR'A

tbaba1234:

Again conflating issues. Anyone who actually knows Saudi society would know that it is a multi faceted society like many, with conservative and not so conservative muslims as well as the irreligious. No-one is hurt because they decide they will not pray again.

Saudi is by no means a model Islamic state anyway.

Visit Jeddah sometime, you might just like it.

Freshpage:

Wht truth r u saying? I bet u dnt even knw d basis of wht u r saying. Bcuz u sound senseless.

wellmax:

No this is what it says: Qur'an (8:39) - “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Graviton2:

Listen, I will not go into a war of words with you nor will I begin to argue about which religion is better — everyone knows the answer to this, the truth does not require forced acceptance nor does it argue unnecessarily. The truth is plain.

Since you claim to read the Bible, I want you to go read Romans 12:2. I've no further words for you.

maclatunji: Very impressive, may Allah bless her efforts!

tbaba1234:

There are literally thousands of evangelists in the middle east, and south east asia including 'ex-muslims', they even have youtube videos on their activities.

Christian pastor freed from Iranian prison after three years spent waiting for execution


An Iranian Christian pastor who was originally sentenced to death for holding on to his faith in the Islamic fundamentalist country was acquitted of apostasy charges and released from prison on Saturday.
Youcef Nadarkhani, 34, spent three years behind bars waiting to be executed to refusing to renounce Christianity. His charges were lowered to evangelizing to Muslims, which carried a three-year sentence.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2200402/Youcef-Nadarkhani-Christian-pastor-freed-Iranian-prison-years-spent-waiting-execution.html

OliverPin: bros non-muslims don't have equal rights as muslims in saudi arabia... How do you explain that?

tiarabubu:


Thousands of evangelists like Youcef, abi?


Evangelizing for a non - Muslim carries a 3 year sentence and for Muslims e.g. Veronique, applause and chants of God is Great! Interesting.

tbaba1234:

Again conflating issues. Anyone who actually knows Saudi society would know that it is a multi faceted society like many, with conservative and not so conservative muslims as well as the irreligious. No-one is hurt because they decide they will not pray again.

Saudi is by no means a model Islamic state anyway.

Visit Jeddah sometime, you might just like it.

Graviton2:

Listen, I will not go into a war of words with you nor will I begin to argue about which religion is better — everyone knows the answer to this, the truth does not require forced acceptance nor does it argue unnecessarily. The truth is plain.

Since you claim to read the Bible, I want you to go read Romans 12:2. I've no further words for you.

abrajways:

Who wrote that chapter ? Another man who never meet Jesus... believe if you like

tbaba1234:

Explain? What equal rights exactly?

There are many non muslims who live and work in Saudi in peace.

rigarmortis:

conflating issues? did you mean conflicting...cos I don't understand your post.

anyway, whether is a model for Islamic states is not the issue, just name one predominantly Christian country where anyone is sentenced to death for cvonverting...the so called models...Dubai and UAE are influenced by western Christians to practice moderately.

tbaba1234:

He lives in Iran and he knows the rules there. Is it right in your faith to break laws?

tbaba1234:

He lives in Iran and he knows the rules there. Is it right in your faith to break laws?

OliverPin: 1) No single church in the whole saudi. 2) You will be charged if found evangelizing 3) Non-muslims are only allowed to worship secretely 4) Non-muslims cannot marry muslims 5) Jehover witnesses are banned from entering saudi 6) There is IRK in schools but CRK is not allowed 7) Non-muslims are not allowed to enter mecca and medina make I stop here. You see what am saying now huh? If you doubt abeg find out urself through web

tbaba1234:

Those state are not christian States but secular states.

Read about how christian states persecuted Jews and Muslims in your own history.

Whatever you accuse muslim of, the christian states has a much, more terrible history.

tiarabubu:

Sure, to prevent non-muslim Veroniques, the simple action is to make laws against them..... Which Muslim country allows proselytizing.

Meanwhile, any rule or process that rubs Muslims wrong is Islamophobia! How convenient. The issue is the morality of the two contrasts. Don't hide behind a simple escape and talk of rules.

OliverPin: a rule that favours only one religion. Rules are suppose to be for everybody's benefit. When china said no fasting people like you rushed out to condemn china. Now see urself. You enforce a rule at the expense of the other religion. How is that fair? Where is the peace?