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Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by temitemi1(m): 3:18am On Aug 17, 2014 |
suwailad: [size=18pt]GUYS VOTE GEJ OUT 2015! THIS MAN IS DESTROYING THE NATION! [/size]I wonder who u are reconmending we vote in after voted GEJ out, I guess u ve a candidate from ur village that is more better dan GEJ If nt I think GEJ till 2019! God bless Nigeria! 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by rozayx5(m): 3:45am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Abeg make we hear word, phantom: jonathans advisers should all be rounded up and shot honestly. i am beginning to feel that some people are deliberately ill advising this man in order to embarass him and gradually edge him out. 3 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Nobody: 3:49am On Aug 17, 2014 |
atlwireles: I can help with that 1 Like
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Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by iamtheprincipal: 3:50am On Aug 17, 2014 |
calebo101: Before I proceed, I would like to remind you that the people of Nigeria; the aged and the youths across party and religious divides in 2011 overwhelmingly supportted and votted in President GEJ to be returned to Aso Rock with the hope that he was the messiah we have waited for, to lift us out from our long lived troubles of bad leadership that is laced in SELFISHNESS & CORRUPTION which has become the trademark of Nigeria and Nigerians in every part of the world. Little did we know that President GEJ who hitherto was from the streets like so many of us, unlike the past Nigerian Leaders (both military & civilians), who were drawn from the affluence. He understood that majority of Nigerians live on less than $1/day and go to bed each day, not knowing where their next meal would come from. Today, he had forgotten all these and so many others and only sees himself as the president of a particular party rather than that of the Nigerian people. Today, irrespective of the amount of damage and havoc some people bring to this country and the corruption cases they are immersed in, once they are ready to join the ruling party, they become 'saints' with their corruption cases laid off them (FFK is a typical example). The Nigerian security agencies particulary EFCC, ICPC, et al have become a mockery and a shadow of themselves. The President had on a certain media chat told the world that 'stealing is not corruption'. The situation has gotten that bad. In view of the above and many others, agreeing with you that there are no better choices in over 160million people, should be likened to the saying that the Nigerian State is irredeemable which would amount to giving up on the only Country we can truly call our own (in the language of Prof. Dora AKUNYILI of blessed memory)& we are certainly not giving up on Nigeria because I for one have so much confident that Nigeria deserves much better than her previous and present leaders have provided her and shall rise to her glory again soonest... I would stop here for now! GOD bless Nigeria!! 6 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Nobody: 3:51am On Aug 17, 2014 |
lrguru: even if they pay doctors 1-million naira monthly, in 5-months time, they will ask for 1.5million naira or go on strike. Dr's say that dr-patient ratio is 1:6400, and nigeria has 150million people. Does it mean that all nigerians are sick people or go to the hospital everyday. May I remind the doctors that not everybody patronize govt hospitals and not all even go to hospital. Some people have never even visited hospital for the past 10 yrs or more, and some prefer the traditional method. So if we wnt to calculate dr-patient ratio, we can say the ratio is 1:100 on monthly bases.See analysis. U sabi pass WHO? 2 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by oyeludef(m): 4:07am On Aug 17, 2014 |
phantom: jonathans advisers should all be rounded up and shot honestly. i am beginning to feel that some people are deliberately ill advising this man in order to embarass him and gradually edge him out.may i remind u sir dat NMA isnt a trade union like d others u mentioned.dnt expect any solidarity rally frm dem . its jst like sayin ICAN or COREN members r on strike 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by oyeludef(m): 4:11am On Aug 17, 2014 |
dabongys:d nurses r closer to patients nd therefore r at higher risk of gettin those communicabl diseases. pls tell us d amount dey collect as hazard allowance 5 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by eligibility: 4:26am On Aug 17, 2014 |
ObiOkpor: vote him out and vote who in my darling? Your elder brother? No! Dear friend, no one is against GEJ in person but his policies is sometimes unthinkable . Mr President is not ready to employ the thousands unemployed graduates but has the capacity to sack the 16,000 underpaid medical doctors. Do you know millions of dollars that had been awarded by your brother to tackle EBOLA. Most people are supporting GEJ unnecessarily without justaposing the end result. By the special grace of GOD , GEJ shall be handing over to more vibrant person by May 29th 2015. 2 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by iamtheprincipal: 4:57am On Aug 17, 2014 |
oyeludef: may i remind u sir dat NMA isnt a trade union like d others u mentioned.dnt expect any solidarity rally frm dem . its jst like sayin ICAN or COREN members r on strike On the contrary, Oyelude, NMA can be descrubed as a trade union, in view of their recent activities. |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by iamtheprincipal: 4:57am On Aug 17, 2014 |
oyeludef: may i remind u sir dat NMA isnt a trade union like d others u mentioned.dnt expect any solidarity rally frm dem . its jst like sayin ICAN or COREN members r on strike On the contrary, Oyelude, NMA can be descrubed as a trade union, in view of their recent activities. |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by allycat: 4:59am On Aug 17, 2014 |
When there were residents, patients in my clinic were already getting 6 months appointment and that is because 4 doctors including house officers, residents and consultants were seeing about 140 to 200 patients in a clinic day. It used to be double that number but we cut down when we realised all we were doing was just surface consultation and quick examination nothing thorough. Even with the present number we are hardly able to fully examine every patient (it would take about 30 minutes to do a decent history taking and examination). The house officers can't do much being a specialist clinic and the consultant can only see a few patients because he or she has to review cases with the residents and teach medical students while the clinic is going on. So now what will happen is the number of patients we see a day will reduce even further, appointments will now be longer year to 18 months. Surgeries will be reduced because only the consultants can operate , senior residents especially used to do most of the minor to intermediate cases and some major cases under supervisiona, while the consultants do the major cases and supervise the residents that way one consultants surgery list could have up to 10 cases in a day because he had assistance. More patients will definitely be referred either to private clinics or abroad. Imagine a hospital that has 5 consultant anaesthetist and that is a large number for a teaching hospital oh. Everyday they have about 10 surgeons from different specialties operating, prior to the sack of the residents the residents would gas the straight forward cases while one consultant anaesthetist supervises like 5 or 6 of them and then personally handle complicated cases. So definitely the rate of surgery will fall and really major cases like those which take 8 to 12 hours will no more be done.At least me I won't dare, it's only a mad man that will start what he cannot handle. Imagine the neurosurgeon or cardiac surgeons who are usually one or 2 in a hospital running clinic and they now have an emergency. Ghenghen clinic will be cancelled and if the same thing happens 2 or 3 times in a month the backlog will be unimaginable. Let me be watching this cinema it's going to be bloody. Or maybe we should just close down the teaching hospitals and send our medical students to Ukraine and India after all in India residency is done in private hospitals and they haven't died yet. 4 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Nobody: 5:03am On Aug 17, 2014 |
felixchip: u will swallow ur vomit. accident or serious illness is awaiting u or ur family members. then u would beg educated fools to rescue you. 6 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by soulglo: 5:03am On Aug 17, 2014 |
phantom: That is fine. Maybe when they get in the private sector and have to compete they will do better. Let's see how they'll strike every week when their livelihood depends on it. I'm sure they're good Nigerian doctors but very few. The system is obviously broken and needs to be fixed. |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by felixchip(m): 5:11am On Aug 17, 2014 |
thepathologist: You MUST be a FOOL. A Big FOOL! So, he would have left them to remain at home abi? 3 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by BekeeBuAgbara: 5:26am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Sunshinelady: . Are u ignorant or plain dum.b? Were d so called 16,000 drs workin b4 dey were sacked? Dey beg dem to work dey no gree work because of som stupid, useless, selfish demands. Pple are dyin & dey only tink of demselves. If I had my way dey won't only be sacked but thoroughly floggedGbam, they need serious flogging, wicked, selfish people that don't sympathize with dying patients. 2 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Kunlexic(m): 5:31am On Aug 17, 2014 |
I don't know the time when Jonathan head will correct. |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by onatisi(m): 5:33am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Kunlexic: I don't know the time when Jonathan head will correct.when you correct your own english 3 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by BekeeBuAgbara: 5:40am On Aug 17, 2014 |
yinkard4me: They shd be sacked. Wen dem no sack dem, wetin dem dey do? Abeegi... This Is d time d country needs dem most. Wah happened to d Oath they took for a critical time like dis? What if our millitary embarked on strike during dis Boko haram security issue? Would dia be any doctor alive to go on a stupid strike? ShioooorStriking doctors and their supporters should please answer the question. 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Zeus777: 5:41am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Dopefiend:a "MEDICAL DOCTOR" is not what you do but WHO U ARE. That is why a "sack" in the usual sense of the word rarely makes much sense or change ones status in medicine. For example a "sacked senior residence is still a senior residence !!' |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by tpia1: 5:45am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Dopefiend: nigerian schools (including the medical ones) need to be vetted to check what kind of graduates they're producing. seems your choices and mindset are questionable, people like you should be subjected to close observation, in an ideal world. 3 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by biomedixexcel(m): 5:46am On Aug 17, 2014 |
hmmm 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by drnoel: 5:50am On Aug 17, 2014 |
This is madness. How does one suspend residency programme in a whole country and hope to be sane. |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Nobody: 5:51am On Aug 17, 2014 |
phantom:Without resident doctors, consultants might just be working like ordinary medical officers, who do they want to delegate work to? A house officer? 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by drnoel: 5:54am On Aug 17, 2014 |
barcanista: The doctors acted stupidlyReally, so in the wiseness of ur heart u really believe so. |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Fitz22(f): 5:58am On Aug 17, 2014 |
suwailad: [size=18pt]GUYS VOTE GEJ OUT 2015! THIS MAN IS DESTROYING THE NATION! [/size] Na Lie..Doctors re stupid, selfish n self centered. They think dey re d most important pple in diz country and in the hospital. They should go outside d country n see how health team work in collaboration with dem selfs. We can't care for our patients very well b cos of poor collaboration between d health teams. Health team makes up d hospital and d health care systems can't function well until dere is collaboration. So Doctors should come down from dat height dey have placed themselves and den allow other health care team including doc's to walk as one. Dey should stop doing d work of pharmacy, lab scientist, physiotherapists n nurses. Dey should concentrate on deir own job. Allow oda qualified health care personal to hold any position as long as dey re qualified for it. GEJ should not blink, he is doing d right fin.haters go n die. 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by drnoel: 6:00am On Aug 17, 2014 |
dhtml18:Allow the idiots, the health system in nigeria will grind to a halt like it always does when a fool at the helm of government advices the president that this is the best solution. GEJ just played a wrong trump card. 3 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Zeus777: 6:02am On Aug 17, 2014 |
uncleu: Resident doctors in Nigeria tend to forget that they are in for short training program. They are not indispensable. The consultants can run any hospital with house officers and medical officers. There are thousands of young doctors with primaries waiting and looking for places to do residency. Lift this suspension after six months, throw application process open to everybody and see if resident doctors will go on strike again.true there are always some pple out there wt primaries they could b absorbed as JUNIOR residence. So from where would u get ur SENIOR RESIDENCE? As disorganized as virtually every thing in Nigeria is medicine is still unique in that ones u puncture the laid down structure it bcomes impossible to reorganize in years to come. For instance no senior residence then automatic loss of accreditation by NUC therefore no more medical school. A school wt junior residence , consultant ,med student wtout senior residence can NEVER be accredited. 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by drnoel: 6:02am On Aug 17, 2014 |
Fitz22:Did u sag they think? They dont have to think, they are.... 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by kaleidoscope: 6:04am On Aug 17, 2014 |
lafuria1: If this doctors start carrying arms and blowing up hospitals , this goverment will not only grant them amnesty but also sponsor them to the best teaching hospital in the world. LOL!!! You talk like its so easy to open a private hospital.... And worst of all "travel and be doctors in other countries".. SERIOUSLY!!! you think one would just wake up one morning, travel and become doctors in other countries... You think if it were that easy you would have as many doctors in Nigeria Come on.. 2 Likes |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by onatisi(m): 6:05am On Aug 17, 2014 |
The question is can nigeria medical care and system stand without these doctors ? If uit can ,then they should be sacked ,if it can't then a compromise should be reached. But I know this is a political gamble and definitely one of the two contending parties will crumble and succumb to the other. Just a matter of time |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Nobody: 6:08am On Aug 17, 2014 |
[quote author=felixchip] You MUST be a FOOL. A Big FOOL! So, he would have left them to remain at home abi? [/quote you are a black goat and ur family members are dying of serious ailments that will defy medical logic. u will not see educated fools to help. nigeria does need doctors. medical schools and all medical services should be declared illegal so that a silly dog like u will be happy. 1 Like |
Re: Government Vows Not To Recall Sacked Doctors by Fxwarrior: 6:09am On Aug 17, 2014 |
lafuria1: If this doctors start carrying arms and blowing up hospitals , this goverment will not only grant them amnesty but also sponsor them to the best teaching hospital in the world. With what money will they use to open which hospital.You think its easy? |
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