Opiosko: Bro seems like u are forgetting that Uncle Sam is funding these arm companies research?. It's an open secret in the intelligence community that the CIA and Us weapon companies are the ones fomenting crisis and arm conflict in the world today...

So that they can test and sell weapons. Most wars involving America, is usually an opportunity for America to test and improve on it's weapons.

donnypool:

how much for the pride price and where you dey stay? make i go start to wash your plate and your cloths at least to pay half, then i go complete the remaining.

Lol. U are funny. Anyways I stay in ogun state and as for my bride price.. not to be discussed in public..

F117A: Are you kidding me?
Go to beageagle and educate yourself.
Those vessels have been completely stripped down anyway.
China is bulding for Nigeria one of its latest stealth warship.
The first one has been built in china,while the second one will be 70% built in lagos by virtue of tech transfer.
China is transferring ship building technology to our navy.

Nigerian Navy will have TWO stealth ships?! That would be amazing

iwonbaoko: Me I do not take prisoners and I no send your family so the moment you start to yab anyhow you go see anyhow

You crossed the line but I will let it slide. I don't know you as one of the trouble makers around here. Next time you might not be so lucky.

Aigbofa:

Did you see the video at all?

Why waste your time on that troll?

MZdamola:
Lol. U are funny. Anyways I stay in ogun state and as for my bride price.. not to be discussed in public..

oya pm me, cause i don't know how people do this pm thing

BlackTechnology: Nigerians must start developing advanced weapons in large quantities

Wondering why can't start making or arms here in nigeria. Its high time our leaders face the reality and do things right.

ferdimako:
but they helped u during the civil war...enjoy.

At what price?

Aigbofa:

You crossed the line but I will let it slide. I don't know you as one of the trouble makers around here. Next time you might not be so lucky.

You are crazy . No one has a monopoly of unruliness . You have witnessed a vivid and instant display of the law of karma. If you want courtesy you give courtesy. You do not go around telling people they are deluded or they are fools or other such nonsense and expect them to cuddle you. If you want to debate I debate if you want to display madness you will find you have bitten more than you can chew. I never bite first but I ALWAYS bite worse

at ur age and nairaland status

Ymodulus: .

Couldn't read the post all through but the message is understood. Well, i think it's the best option and should always be 'cause we can't be puppets to a country just like ours. We're also entitled to our decisions just like the're entitled to theirs.

The unwillingness of USA & GB to support GEJ's administration in their quest to aquire millitary hardware should not surprise any one. Despite several documenmted cases of human rights abuses carried out by some elements within the Nigerian army, not a single person has been prosecuted nor any meaningful step taken to curb these abuses.

USA & GB do not want their weapons to be used against defenseless civilians or to be used to perpetrate war crimes. On the other hand, Russia and China do not give a hoot about human rights abuses, they will sell their weapons to the highest bidder. Nonsense!

milehigh06: why are people who basically do not know how a country runs so quick to tell you what they think is right or wrong..If in your deluded head you think the US govt can stop personal business men from doing business with Nigeria,then you really need your head checked..in our haste to bash the west,we simply refuse to look deeper into the 9.3million sham being carried out by your corrupt govt...If USA is ot willing to sell to Nigeria,why must Nieria now go to the black Market when they can go to Russia and China like they claim to be doing now?have you deluded conspiracy theorists thought that up?

The Nigerian govt claims they had to go to the illegal market to buy arms forgetting that a nation like Russia,China,Japan and bunch of eastern Nations will be willing to sell to Nigeria because 1. they need the money and most importantly 2,they are willing to rub the nose of USA in it


when you lot take some time out to actually think,then you will see how you and your type is being used as a rag doll in this experiment called "Loot Nigeria till she bleeds to death "

Sir, I certainly agree with you about the theft and money laundering fiasco currently facing our brain-dead president and his government.

However, you are trying to conflate and confuse issues here.

You need to separate sentiments from facts. Pointing out the facts about Western Imperial hegemony is not akin to hating the west, no sir, not at all.
So don't be afraid to call a spade a spade.

Yes, US can, and always stop American businesses from doing certain types of transactions with any country. In fact US does not even limit its powers to it's own citizens, but also influences the business transactions of Foreign multinationals as well. Case in point , US just recently fined PNB Paribas of France $6billion for doing business with a non-friendly country, even though PNB Paribas contravened no French or international law by so doing.

The truth is that Nigeria, as the so-called giant of Africa, has to lead the continent in charting a new course that includes sidelining the anglosphere and making new alliances for long term mutual benefit.

Haven't you noticed that while China, Russia and India, the new kids on the block economic block, are busy striking long term deals and mutually beneficial DEBT-FREE economic alliances in Africa, the US is busy building giving us military bases ( I assume for future contrived conflicts ) and the EU are busy trying to separate and strangle individual African countries with their free trade agreements?

Do you know what a free trade agreement means?
Do you know what a free trade between the EU (60+ countries) and 1 individual African country would mean for that one African country?
Can you spot the gang-up?

If EU wants a free trade agreement, then such a free trade agreement should be with the AU, all African countries in one agreement.

The bottom line is that Africa's relationship with the anglosphere has never ever been a Win-Win situation.
It has always been a win-loose situation.
These are facts devoid of any sentiments.

atlwireles: The boko haram supporters never stop amazing us. The same crowd crying for months about the army needing more arms, are asking us to applaud the actions of US and UK. The Nigerian army will buy the arms needed to kill all of you, boko haram foot soldiers. Even, if they have to carry $10B in cash to close the deal.

I laugh at the unsuspecting nairalanders taking that moniker " aressa" serious..They must be new on the forum..as long as it is against the current government (not minding if it right or wrong) that 'see no good" being will applaud it...but that is none of my business.

Raypawer: at ur age and nairaland status

I wasn't booking. I made a comment. And I had to delete it. So no better way. I just put a dot. Beside I commented on the topic before it made front page

sarutobie:
I laugh at the unsuspecting nairalanders taking that moniker " aressa" serious..They must be new on the forum..as long as it is against the current government (not minding if it right or wrong) that 'see no good" being will applaud it...but that is none of my business.

You will be surprised, how well the lying SOB is known here. That's why nobody takes his rubbish serious.

The arms are not going to be sold to Nigeria because of what the u.s sees as gross human rights violation. I'm pretty sure that after a massacre of about 200 people extra judicially, maybe 20 or less will be terrorists. But because the north is pretty much isolated and the people there do not even know what exactly they are getting killed for because those remote villages boko haram keep invading and massacring, which the army comes in to kill of who's left have no internet, we in the remaining part of the country can keep slyly turning a blind eye because it doesn't affect us. Until it moves to the remaining part of the country where smartphones are rampant and internet is everywhere is when you'll know the soldiers need more orientation than ammunition.
Say the soldiers bomb a remote village and kill a couple of farmers on the farm, they just provided fresh recruit of sons who feel they I've been wronged.

nduchucks: The unwillingness of USA & GB to support GEJ's administration in their quest to aquire millitary hardware should not surprise any one. Despite several documenmted cases of human rights abuses carried out by some elements within the Nigerian army, not a single person has been prosecuted nor any meaningful step taken to curb these abuses.

USA & GB do not want their weapons to be used against defenseless civilians or to be used to perpetrate war crimes. On the other hand, Russia and China do not give a hoot about human rights abuses, they will sell their weapons to the highest bidder. Nonsense!

But they sold weapons to Egypt,Israel,Saudi,Qatar,Bahrain,Sri Lanka and even yes ZIMBABWE and ISIS among others

iwonbaoko: But they sold weapons to Egypt,Israel,Saudi,Qatar,Bahrain,Sri Lanka and even yes ZIMBABWE and ISIS among others

I haven't seen any recent videos of current human rights abuses and war crimes in those countries.

iwonbaoko: But they sold weapons to Egypt,Israel,Saudi,Qatar,Bahrain,Sri Lanka and even yes ZIMBABWE and ISIS among others

None of these countries have shown the level of depravity of the Nigerian army. The U.S does not support ISIS, find another other lie to tell. Iwonbaopolo.

nduchucks:

I haven't seen any recent videos of current human rights abuses and war crimes in those countries.

I heard that Princess Kate is pregnant but I haven't seen any recent videos of her having sex though they might exist ......
I am not sure what your not seeing videos tells us except that...............
YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM

iwonbaoko: I heard that Princess Kate is pregnant but I haven't seen any recent videos of her having sex though they might exist ......
I am not sure what your not seeing videos tells us except that...............
YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM

e be like say de ting too deep for some people no understand. They have my pity.

Aigbofa:

None of these countries have shown the level of depravity of the Nigerian army. The U.S does not support ISIS, find another other lie to tell. Iwonbaopolo.

No but ISIS fight with American weapons which they bought at Onitsha market
I am done with you for today you are an empty vessel = Igba ofifo

Statement of Lauren Ploch Blanchard
Specialist in African Affairs

Congressional Research Service Before The House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights, and International Organizations

Hearing: “Human Rights Vetting: Nigeria and Beyond”
July 10, 2014

The Nigerian Context

U.S. security assistance to Nigeria has been constrained both by law and by policy
concerns, and the security relationship also has been hampered at times by a lack of
cooperation from Nigerian officials and by systemic problems in the Nigerian military.
Political and human rights concerns have been a prominent factor in shaping U.S.-Nigeria
relations for decades. The country was ruled by the military for much of the four decades
after independence, and U.S. sanctions—some imposed under an executive order and
others consistent with appropriations legislation—prohibited security assistance to
Nigeria for most of the 1990s.

The bilateral relationship has improved significantly since Nigeria’s transition to civilian
rule in 1999, although State Department human rights reports have continued to highlight
serious human rights violations by the Nigerian security forces in every year since the
transition. These violations include politically motivated and extrajudicial killings,
excessive use of force, and torture.

The summary execution of suspects by joint security force operations against both Niger Delta militants in the south and Boko Haram in the northeast has been a common theme in State Department reporting. There is little, if any,evidence to indicate that the government has held those responsible for abuses accountable for their actions.


Nigerian security force abuses, particularly those committed in the northeast in the
context of operations to counter Boko Haram, have been documented by journalists,
human rights advocates, and others, including foreign governments like the United States,
among others. implicates roughly half the units in the Nigerian army, and likely would render those
units ineligible for security assistance if they were to be submitted for vetting.24 The
United States is not the only donor government that has restricted security assistance
based on human rights concerns; the United Kingdom, once a major provider of training
and equipment to the Nigerian military, has significantly reduced its assistance in recent
years, and the sale of lethal weapons to Nigeria is now prohibited under UK law.2

[b]Proponents of human rights vetting argue that the main impediment to U.S. efforts to
support Nigeria’s broader response to Boko Haram is not the Leahy laws, but gross
violations committed by the Nigerian forces, the Nigerian government’s resistance to
adopting a more comprehensive approach to Boko Haram, and the continued lack of
political will within the government to investigate allegations of human rights abuses and
hold perpetrators accountable. The Nigerian government also has appeared reticent in
some cases to allow its security forces to participate in U.S. training programs. The State
Department indicates that there are currently 187 Nigerian military units and 173 police
units that have been vetted and cleared to receive U.S. assistance and training.27
Significantly, given the context of U.S. efforts to assist Nigerian operations to rescue
hundreds of schoolgirls kidnapped by Boko Haram, among the cleared units are two that
the State Department views as best positioned to conduct hostage rescue operations—the
Special Boat Service commando unit and the 101st Infantry Battalion—but both
reportedly require significant additional training. It is unclear whether the Nigerian[/b]

That's it in a nutshell...


You people need to change your lawless and criminal ways of doing things.

sylaz: The arms are not going to be sold to Nigeria because of what the u.s sees as gross human rights violation. I'm pretty sure that after a massacre of about 200 people extra judicially, maybe 20 or less will be terrorists. But because the north is pretty much isolated and the people there do not even know what exactly they are getting killed for because those remote villages boko haram keep invading and massacring, which the army comes in to kill of who's left have no internet, we in the remaining part of the country can keep slyly turning a blind eye because it doesn't affect us. Until it moves to the remaining part of the country where smartphones are rampant and internet is everywhere is when you'll know the soldiers need more orientation than ammunition.
Say the soldiers bomb a remote village and kill a couple of farmers on the farm, they just provided fresh recruit of sons who feel they I've been wronged.

Imagine an Apache helicopter in the hands of people who have no qualms about killing civilians.
Imagine an Apache above you while are trying to vote, like the militarization of the Osun and Ekiti elections.

iwonbaoko:
No but ISIS fight with American weapons which they bought at Onitsha market
I am done with you for today you are an empty vessel = Igba ofifo

And that translates to America supporting ISIS? You are more whacky than I thought. Iwonbalaakaye.

The Western powers only sell weapons to the countries they dictate and control politically, and militarily.

If you are not ready to play ball, you wont get anything. And the Nigerian military have always been reluctant to follow orders from foreign military advisers from time immemorial. So why are they just realizing that they wont get any security help from the US and Britain?

The East on the other hand just want to do business as long as you are ready to pay for it.

Aigbofa:

And that translates to America supporting ISIS? You are more whacky than I thought. Iwonbalaakaye.

Very unintelligent and senseless quote from that poster..


Iraqi Army surrendered their military bases and US's weapons to ISIS, took off their uniform and took off running.

Nigerian military surrendered their military bases and weapons to Boko Haram and took off ruining.

This means America is supporting ISIS with weapons? Just too many kabukabu elementary thinking people on NL I swear...

Yes Isis inquired of the Lord "shall we go up against Baghdad"
and the Lord said "go up" and Isis said "How shall we go up when all we have are sticks and stones"
"Fear not,behold I am the Lord of Hosts"
Remember Sura 2.249 How many a little company hath overcome a mighty host by Allah's leave! Allah is with the steadfast.
so they were comforted

and it came to pass that Isis armed only with stones and sticks went up against the mighty Iraqi army and the Lord delivered Mosul into the hands of Isis and the Lord smote the Iraqis even though they were armed with the Latest American weapons and so all the American weapons fell into the hands of ISIS
Thus ISIS came to possess Humvees and Armored trucks,anti-aircraft artillery and M79 rocket launchers for the Lord smote the Iraqis with a mighty smiting and all the surrounding countries were seized with a mighty fear

plaetton: Anyone who is familiar with, or does a case study of military conflicts in Africa over the past 60 yrs or so would notice that the west, or various organs of the anglosphere, are usually the architects, facilitators and provocateurs of such conflicts.
Also notable is that the west always and always play both sides of every conflict by advising and arming both sides.
However, what you may never notice is that the west never ever arms either side for a clear and concise victory. Never.
The west cleverly gives only enough arms, enough support to sustain an intractable conflict.
The west are only interested in conflicts that last indefinitely till the nation state can no longer function as such.
Angola, Congo, Uganda, Sudan, and Nigeria are historical examples.

No one should delude themselves that west would give Nigeria weapons or intelligence ( which they have) to defeat boko haram. The chaos created by book haram is exactly what they wish for Nigeria. They can also use it blackmail and influence Nigeria's resource and geopolitical policies. This has always been the MO of the anglosphere.

Good writeup. But there are zero facts to support the assertion that the West has armed both sides in any conflict in Suadan or Nigeria or any of the other conflicts.

Well I guess this is what Nigeria gets when its defense industry is busy producing furniture.....and when the military top brass are clamoring for oil wells.

Aigbofa:

None of these countries have shown the level of depravity of the Nigerian army. The U.S does not support ISIS, find another other lie to tell. Iwonbaopolo.

Calling you a pseudo-intellectual is paying you an unmerited complement.
You are dishonest.
Maybe you think the US will sell weapons to Nigeria with buhari as president.