THE emerging scenario in the fight against terror and the steps Nigeria’s government has taken would have resulted in global sensation during the cold war. The United States would fight to keep their allies.

They would never easily lose any of their allies to then Soviet Union as now represented by Russia which has, although, embraced free market economy.

Nigeria, for years, enjoyed close ties with the West and was seen as a US ally. But the seeming snub or nonchalant attitude towards it by its traditional allies has reportedly compelled Nigeria to turn to Russia and China for the training of its military as well as acquisition of military hardware to fight Boko Haram insurgents.

Highly placed military and intelligence sources in Abuja told Saturday Vanguard that the decision to turn to the other two world military powers was an interim measure to roll back the military advances made by the Boko Haram insurgents who have gained some grounds in seizing and controlling some towns and Villages in the north eastern states of Borno and Adamawa.

Already, Nigerian security personnel from the Army, Police, Department of State Services (DSS) have been dispatched to Russia for training as Special Forces to combat the Boko Haram insurgents who are mounting stiff challenge to the Nigerian security services.

According to Saturday Vanguard investigations, following the increasing sophistication of the Boko Haram terrorists, the Nigerian government approached American and British governments to procure arms for its armed forces in order to effectively counter the insurgents but the two western governments have continued to dither, a situation that may have been responsible for some of the gains recorded by terrorists in recent times.

A senior security Source told Saturday Vanguard: “the United States and Britain appear unwilling to provide arms to our armed forces. It is surprising because these are two friendly countries to Nigeria which is under threat from terrorists. We have no option but to look somewhere else for our needs pending when the issues are resolved at the diplomatic level by our government.”

This remark underscored the current lukewarm attitude of both countries to the Federal Government.

The USA had said that it would not assist Nigeria with land forces and would not also share intelligence with the Nigerian military.

Sources said that they did not trust the Nigerian military which was accused of lacking professionalism and which also had moles within.

But Nigeria expected better assistance from USA, Britain and the like. But their support has fallen below expectation.

Saturday Vanguard gathered that one of the options was to turn to Russia which has always been willing to supply weapons and some other logistics to Nigeria when other western countries are not forthcoming. The Nigeria Air force has several Russian fighter jets in its fleet.

It was gathered that Nigeria has entered into contract with Russian Arms manufacturers for the supply of high calibre weapons to the Nigerian Army to combat the insurgents in the North east and has begun discussion with the Israeli government on possible supply of military hardware.

“When the Chief of Army staff said recently that the Nigerian army would soon take possession of weapons that would reverse the trend in the North east, he was referring to the deal between Nigeria and some Russian arms manufacturers.

We are also in discussion with Israeli companies. We don’t want to be held ransom by our traditional allies. That is why we are expanding our sources of supply,” the source said.

As part of the agreement between Nigeria and Russia, a group of Nigerian security personnel are already in Eastern Europe for training as Special Forces with another batch, made up of the Army, Police and DSS billed to leave Nigeria next month to join the other three batches that are already in training.

President Jonathan recently, at the passing out parade of cadets at the Nigerian Defence Academy, said the armed forces would set up a Special Forces Brigade to combat terrorism in the country.

Source: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/boko-haram-fg-turns-russia-china-usa-uk-fail-nigeria/#sthash.g4pkgKBL.dpuf

Am just watching

The west is too funny. The truth is thier reluctance to assist nigeria has nothing to do with human rights violations or lack of reliability and professionalism. If so then why is america still arming syrian rebels? I remember a couple months ago There were videos of syrian rebels cutting out the hearts of their enemies and eating it on youtube.

The hypocrisy of the west is truly in full display. I wonder why america is still sending billions of dollars of aid to egypt even with her gross human rights abuses. The truth of the matter is america just wants a puppet and Nigerias government is not submitting to them. The west never helps you without attaching strings.
After all if we look at countries like uganda and rwanda, countries that are willing puppets of america.(especially rwanda)
America still sells weapons to them even with their gross human rights violations.


Word for the wise
[size=15pt]Do not attach morality or civility to the Wests dealings with Nigeria and the rest of africa. Do so at your own peril.[/size]

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Though my first post is PRO- nigerian government actions, i still have a doubt in mind and i will drop this





Damn lies
I don't believe that the Western arms manufacturers are refusing to sell arms to Nigeria. This is all lies.

Western arms manufacturer would even sell arms to enemies of their own country unless their government specifically imposes bans on their arms export.

So far, no single Western country has a ban in place against selling arms to Nigeria. Why are some Nigerians so stupid to accept these lies?

What lies next?
That the $9.3 million cash seized in South Africa was meant for buy arms in the black market because Western arms manufacturers are refusing to sell arms to Nigeria?

Nigerians must start developing advanced weapons in large quantities

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Just take a look at the list of countries we are supposed to compete with in terms of human rights; Egypt, Syria, Rwanda, Uganda, all autocratic regimes.
Why can't Nigeria aspire to be like other democratic and stable countries that respect human beings and treat them with dignity?

Ymodulus: Though my first post is PRO- nigerian government actions, i still have a doubt in mind and i will drop this





Damn lies
I don't believe that the Western arms manufacturers are refusing to sell arms to Nigeria. This is all lies.

Western arms manufacturer would even sell arms to enemies of their own country unless their government specifically imposes bans on their arms export.

So far, no single Western country has a ban in place against selling arms to Nigeria. Why are some Nigerians so stupid to accept these lies?

What lies next?
That the $9.3 million cash seized in South Africa was meant for buy arms in the black market because Western arms manufacturers are refusing to sell arms to Nigeria?

you do know american and british arms manufacturers are closely tied to their governments right? plus on top of that, there is no ban but that does not mean they have to accept any requests from the Nigerian government.

As you can see the Nigerian defence spokesperson said the western countries were dragging their feet and were using human rights and unreliability as excuses to not sell to the Nigerian government.

Aigbofa: Just take a look at the list of countries we are supposed to compete with in terms of human rights; Egypt, Syria, Rwanda, Uganda, all autocratic regimes.
Why can't Nigeria aspire to be like other democratic and stable countries that respect human beings and treat them with dignity?

You do know in terms of human rights Nigeria is actually better thatn places like uganda, egypt and rwanda?

The fact that we have an opposition that can openly insult the sitting president without repercussions automatically places Nigeria higher than the vast majority of african countries. On top of that unlike these other countries the media in Nigeria is not oppressed. They are free to speak their mind on various issues.

Nigerias human rights issues are more or less tied to the governments handling of the boko haram crisis. the truth of the matter is if even isreal could not conduct military operations without civilian casualties why are we expecting a developing country such as Nigeria to be flawless.

I mean the north is a very complex place. They say places like sambisa forest have communities where many civilians are still residing in even with bokoharams presence. There are also reports of bokoharam trying to use civilans as human shields.

Nigerians really dont know how good they have it when compared to many neighboring african countries in terms of rights...

davitogreat:

you do know american and british arms manufacturers are closely tied to their governments right? plus on top of that, there is no ban but that does not mean they have to accept any requests from the Nigerian government.

As you can see the Nigerian defence spokesperson said the western countries were dragging their feet and were using human rights and unreliability as excuses to not sell to the Nigerian government.

Bro Arms manufacturers will be willing to sell arms to countries even against their government will so as to make money. we have seen this in history.




There are few restrictions on whom the government may export arms to. One notable exception is the Leahy Law, which prohibits U.S. military aid or training to foreign military units known to have committed human rights abuses. Under the Pentagon's interpretation of the law, however, these restrictions may be lifted if the foreign government filters out the "few bad apples" in that particular unit. An International Code of Conduct on Arms Sales is also being negotiated with other arms exporters in the hopes of creating a common set of export criteria. Read on for more facts.

davitogreat: You do know in terms of human rights Nigeria is actually better thatn places like uganda, egypt and rwanda?

I agree with you on this. countries like uganda and rwanda, countries that are willing puppets of america.(especially rwanda)
America still sells weapons to them even with their gross human rights violations.
You have no idea about the evil musevini is doing in Uganda. from recruting child soldiers to assassination of opposition members and silencing the media.
or
what kagame is doing in rwanda with assassination of opposition and oppressing the hutu population. rwanda is also assisting rebels in destabilizing the congo.

Those 2 are practically demons walking in human skin. But again america chooses to turn a blind eye to their atrocities.

the truth of the matter is if even isreal could not conduct military operations without civilian casualties why are we expecting a developing country such as Nigeria to be flawless.

[size=15pt]Yes. i have said it in time past on this section that we need to kill about $160 MILLION NIGERIANS FOR THIS COUNTRY TO GET BETTER. Also to achieve good, good people have to suffer. its a natural law[/size]

davitogreat:
you do know american and british arms manufacturers are closely tied to their governments right? plus on top of that, there is no ban but that does not mean they have to accept any requests from the Nigerian government. .

In addition the top defence contractors in the U.S have power. please read about their previous deals when you have time too.


[b]The Defense Industry

Top defense contractors (including sales to both U.S. government and foreign buyers):[13]

FY2001:

1. Lockheed Martin Corp.: $17 billion
2. Boeing Co.: $16.6 billion
3. Northrop Grumman Co.: $8.7 billion
4. Raytheon: $7.0 billion
5. General Dynamics Co.: $7.0 billion
6. United Technologies Co.: $3.6 billion
7. Science Applications International: $2.1 billion
8. TRW Inc.: $2.0 billion
9. Health Net, Inc.: $1.7 billion
10. L-3 Communications Holding, Inc.: $1.7 billion

One reason the defense industry has such influence in the United state government is because of federal campaign contributions. Past industry contributions as reported by the Federal Election Commission and presented by the Center for Responsive Politics:[14]

2002 Election Cycle (to date): $7.2 million
2000 Election Cycle: $13.6 million
1998 Election Cycle: $10.6 million

Top Lobbyists for 2000 Election Cycle:
Lockheed Martin ($2.38 million)
General Dynamics ($1.2 million)

[/b]

davitogreat:

You do know in terms of human rights Nigeria is actually better thatn places like uganda, egypt and rwanda?

The fact that we have an opposition that can openly insult the sitting president without repercussions automatically places Nigeria higher than the vast majority of african countries. On top of that unlike these other countries the media in Nigeria is not oppressed. They are free to speak their mind on various issues.

Nigerias human rights issues are more or less tied to the governments handling of the boko haram crisis. the truth of the matter is if even isreal could not conduct military operations without civilian casualties why are we expecting a developing country such as Nigeria to be flawless.

I mean the north is a very complex place. They say places like sambisa forest have communities where many civilians are still residing in even with bokoharams presence. There are also reports of bokoharam trying to use civilans as human shields.

Nigerians really dont know how good they have it when compared to many neighboring african countries in terms of rights...

Nigerians don't know how good they have it? This is an insult to all innocent Nigerians who lost their lives in the hands of Nigerian security officials, from the police to the Army.
I have a first hand knowledge of the impunity and the brutality of the criminals we call the police.
What army in the whole wide world would slaughter their captives like rams? That is criminal.

Why can't Nigeria turn to God?

Ymodulus:

I agree with you on this. countries like uganda and rwanda, countries that are willing puppets of america.(especially rwanda)
America still sells weapons to them even with their gross human rights violations.
You have no idea about the evil musevini is doing in Uganda. from recruting child soldiers to assassination of opposition members and silencing the media.
or
what kagame is doing in rwanda with assassination of opposition and oppressing the hutu population. rwanda is also assisting rebels in destabilizing the congo.

Those 2 are practically demons walking in human skin. But again america chooses to turn a blind eye to their atrocities.



[size=15pt]Yes. i have said it in time past on this section that we need to kill about $160 MILLION NIGERIANS FOR THIS COUNTRY TO GET BETTER. Also to achieve good, good people have to suffer. its a natural law[/size]

Good luck with killing all Nigerians to make Nigeria better. That should be the most peaceful country ever.
This is precisely why they are not selling anything to us.
I understand Nigeria is fighting terror but must we in the process become terrorists?

Ymodulus:

Bro Arms manufacturers will be willing to sell arms to countries even against their government will so as to make money. we have seen this in history.




There are few restrictions on whom the government may export arms to. One notable exception is the Leahy Law, which prohibits U.S. military aid or training to foreign military units known to have committed human rights abuses. Under the Pentagon's interpretation of the law, however, these restrictions may be lifted if the foreign government filters out the "few bad apples" in that particular unit. An International Code of Conduct on Arms Sales is also being negotiated with other arms exporters in the hopes of creating a common set of export criteria. Read on for more facts.

Your taking things it at face value. American arms manufacturers will never sell to just anybody. You guys really underestimate the american governments involvement in HER Military Industrial Complex.



America will never sell Nigeria apaches or Ah-IZ vipers they will never sell Nigeria drones they will never sell nigeria f22 raptors, they will never sell f15s, f16s e.t.c

Aigbofa:

Nigerians don't know how good they have it? This is an insult to all innocent Nigerians who lost their lives in the hands of Nigerian security officials, from the police to the Army.
I have a first hand knowledge of the impunity and the brutality of the criminals we call the police.
What army in the whole wide world would slaughter their captives like rams? That is criminal.

I never called our security forces perfect. I made a comparison between our human rights issues and neighboring african countries that still get support from the U.S. I will say it again. NIGERIANS DONT KNOW HOW GOOD THEY HAVE IT.


Here is some info on Rwanda

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/darling-of-the-west-terror-to-his-opponents-meet-rwandas-new-scourge–paul-kagame-9037914.html

Darling of the West, terror to his opponents: Meet Rwanda’s new scourge – Paul Kagame

Paul Kagame’s rivals keep dying, but Clinton and Blair still shake his hand, writes Ian Birrell

But Nyamwasa, a former Rwandan army chief who has survived two assassination attempts, asked who else might want to kill his friend. “It is not the first time and it is not the last. Most of President Kagame’s political opposition are in exile or in prison or are dead.”

Kagame’s strategy has been clear from the start of his rise to power; indeed, defectors and dissidents have explained in detail how he man gets rid of his rivals. “He believes that all opponents must die,” said Karegeya last year.

Those who served as his aides, army officers and bodyguards have said that even in exile during the days of bush warfare, he eliminated those who threatened his authority. After taking power following the 1994 genocide, his repressive regime used murder, arbitrary arrest, jail and strict media controls to sustain its incredibly rigid rule.

Former colleagues told me he never hid what would happen to enemies; even Paul Rusesabagina, the hotel manager who became a global hero amid the hell of genocide, had to go into hiding.

Here is on uganda
http://newint.org/features/web-exclusive/2011/06/03/uganda-child-soldier-story/

I was a child soldier for Uganda’s President

Now, after 25 years in office, Museveni is becoming more and more abusive of power. He is currently obsessed by the idea that he will become victim of an ‘African Spring’, mimicking the uprisings in North Africa and the Middle East. In this atmosphere of paranoia, he has targeted with extreme violence people he distrusts in an attempt to terrify the legitimate opposition led by Dr Kizza Besigye into passivity.

I was accepted into the army, and I did well. I married and became a family man, putting away the past. One day in August 2002, Museveni called me directly, by my password, to go to State House. He said: ‘How old are you now?’ So I told him. He said: ‘Then you are old enough to fight me.’ He said: ‘When a person points to the leopard’s cubs, his finger will be bitten off.’

He was threatening me. Then he threw a glass of orange juice into my face and dismissed me. Three weeks later I was arrested. He never gave me one chance to defend myself. I was tortured to reveal things I could not reveal because I knew nothing about them. I only just escaped being killed. Secret helpers helped me to escape to the UK. I had no idea where I was going.

Again at least in Nigeria you can insult Jonathan. You can call him a drunkard and fisherman and nothing will happen to you. In Nigeria the opposition of the present administration is thriving. Our media is free to spread their opinions on various issues without any fear.
(does sahara reporters ring a bell)
Not the same case in many other African countries. Plus lets not

@David

Speaking your mind is a God given right. It is not a favor from Jonathan or anyone. Anyone who denies you that right is your enemy.

davitogreat:


Your taking things it at face value. American arms manufacturers will never sell to just anybody. You guys really underestimate the american governments involvement in HER Military Industrial Complex.



America will never sell Nigeria apaches or Ah-IZ vipers they will never sell Nigeria drones they will never sell nigeria f22 raptors, they will never sell f15s, f16s e.t.c

Do you know that United state private own Defense Firms Seek Alternatives as U.S. Cuts Military Spending since 2003.
Please check the Wall street Journal as this was one of the major topic when it happened. Even Michael Bloomberg had to respond to Amanpour on a CNN interview that the firms have to sought for foreign partners. So bro I do not agree with you. Beside you had nice point I must confess

Aigbofa: @David

Speaking your mind is a God given right. It is not a favor from Jonathan or anyone. Anyone who denies you that right is your enemy.

well tell that to china, rwanda, uganda, angola, saudi arabioa, belarus then.
speaking your mind is a God given right but it dosent mean that leaders in power have to abide by it.
Especially when looking at developing countries. The amount of media censoring that goes on in the VAST majority of developing countries is alarming. A lot of the leaders of those countries believe that by censoring the media they can have stability in their nations.

(sadly this is true. Suppressing media does provide a measure of stability in developing nations)


If we look at Nigeria today one of the major reasons this country is so polarizing and divided is the fact that our media is free to churn out anything they see fit without fear. Again its thier right but you can see how much damage it causes. The fact Jonathan is not acting like many leaders in other countries who use the bruising of thier egos or the so called "unity of the nation" in this current political climate as a means to silence his opponents is commendable.

let me ask you a question..

What do you think would happen to the stability of china if the government stooped suppressing their media content? I can assure you things wont be anywhere as stable as it is today.

what do you think would happen in rwanda if the hutus had the free reign to come together and speak out publicly about the discrimination and oppression kagame is pouring out towards them? Do you think rwanda would be as peaceful as it is today? Do you think they would be still making great economic strides as they are doing presently?

the world is a very complex place.

davitogreat:

well tell that to china, rwanda, uganda, angola, saudi arabioa, belarus then.
speaking your mind is a God given right but it dosent mean that leaders in power have to abide by it.
Especially when looking at developing countries. The amount of media censoring that goes on in the VAST majority of developing countries is alarming. A lot of the leaders of those countries believe that by censoring the media they can have stability in their nations.

(sadly this is true. Suppressing media does provide a measure of stability in developing nations)


If we look at Nigeria today one of the major reasons this country is so polarizing and divided is the fact that our media is free to churn out anything they see fit without fear. Again its thier right but you can see how much damage it causes. The fact Jonathan is not acting like many leaders in other countries who use the bruising of thier egos or the so called "unity of the nation" in this current political climate as a means to silence his opponents is commendable.

let me ask you a question..

What do you think would happen to the stability of china if the government stooped suppressing their media content? I can assure you things wont be anywhere as stable as it is today.

what do you think would happen in rwanda if the hutus had the free reign to come together and speak out publicly about the discrimination and oppression kagame is pouring out towards them? Do you think rwanda would be as peaceful as it is today? Do you think they would be still making great economic strides as they are doing presently?

the world is a very complex place.

The world isn't complex. We humans are. I don't agree with you on control of information, beside Nigeria media are not yet free as you might think.

davitogreat:
well tell that to china, rwanda, uganda, angola, saudi arabioa, belarus then.
speaking your mind is a God given right but it dosent mean that leaders in power have to abide by it.
Especially when looking at developing countries. The amount of media censoring that goes on in the VAST majority of developing countries is alarming. A lot of the leaders of those countries believe that by censoring the media they can have stability in their nations.
(sadly this is true. Suppressing media does provide a measure of stability in developing nations)
If we look at Nigeria today one of the major reasons this country is so polarizing and divided is the fact that our media is free to churn out anything they see fit without fear. Again its thier right but you can see how much damage it causes. The fact Jonathan is not acting like many leaders in other countries who use the bruising of thier egos or the so called "unity of the nation" in this current political climate as a means to silence his opponents is commendable.
let me ask you a question..
What do you think would happen to the stability of china if the government stooped suppressing their media content? I can assure you things wont be anywhere as stable as it is today.
what do you think would happen in rwanda if the hutus had the free reign to come together and speak out publicly about the discrimination and oppression kagame is pouring out towards them? Do you think rwanda would be as peaceful as it is today? Do you think they would be still making great economic strides as they are doing presently?
the world is a very complex place.

You obviously assume that Nigerians are not smart enough to sift through the cacophony of lies and half truths to know what is true and what is false.
I guess you will trust Jonathan and his ministers to determine that for them as it is done in some other places.

Nigerians are not Chinese and if their system works for them maybe it is because corruption is severely punished in their country. Can you load a private jet with millions of dollars in China and fly it to another country?

Nigerians are not foolish, let anyone publish what they like we can discern the truth and if you are slandered the courts are there.

Stop blaming other people for your own problems and your president's incompetent and corrupt ways...


1. GEJ himself admitted that he has BH moles in his government so why should the US give weapons to the same BH moles?

2. GEJ himself is by association with and protection of known BH supporters and financiers is in effect a BH collaborator and supporter so why should they collaborate with him. It's like joining forces with armed robbers to catch other armed robbers..

3. The US not only asserted to your government that BH gets it's weapons from the Nigerian Army, but we also know that the military by design not only refused to defend their military bases and weapons, they also refused to equip their military men to adequately fight off BH before BH manifested into the lethal enemy we have today so why should the US give you weapons that you can not use and protect and even at the end of the day ends up in BH's armory?

4. Your president refused to fight corruption and incompetence within the Nigerian military and instead hand over National awards to the same corrupt and incompetent military chiefs responsible for the mess we are going through? This doesn't put us in a good light or inspire confidence in any way.

Bottom line, look in the mirror first before blaming other people for your woes...

Ymodulus:

Do you know that United state private own Defense Firms Seek Alternatives as U.S. Cuts Military Spending since 2003.
Please check the Wall street Journal as this was one of the major topic when it happened. Even Michael Bloomberg had to respond to Amanpour on a CNN interview that the firms have to sought for foreign partners. So bro I do not agree with you. Beside you had nice point I must confess

yes defense contractors in america have free reign to source for buyers around the world, but at the end of the day they still have their limitations. For example you are never going to see high level collaboration between american defence firms and china. Or american defense firms and burma. You have to understand that there are levels to this and the levels that Nigeria requires to end boko haram are out of reach of the Nigerian government. Thats why i said america will never sell us weapons that are needed to end boko haram like apaches, f-16s e.t.c luckily the russians on the other hand dont have any levels. The new attack helicopters Nigeria is getting from them are mi-171sh and mi-35s. These will help to put an end to the insurgency.

You forget that in america there are also powerful lobby groups that oppose americas industrial complex.

olayincar: Why can't Nigeria turn to God?

Remember, God helps those who help themselves.

Ymodulus:

The world isn't complex. We humans are. I don't agree with you on control of information, beside Nigeria media are not yet free as you might think.

please explain.

They should turn to God instead..

Slowly, the retardds in this country are getting a behind the scene picture.

davitogreat:

yes defense contractors in america have free reign to source for buyers around the world, but at the end of the day they still have their limitations. For example you are never going to see high level collaboration between american defence firms and china. Or american defense firms and burma. You have to understand that there are levels to this and the levels that Nigeria requires to end boko haram are out of reach of the Nigerian government. Thats why i said america will never sell us weapons that are needed to end boko haram like apaches, f-16s e.t.c luckily the russians on the other hand dont have any levels. The new attack helicopters Nigeria is getting from them are mi-171sh and mi-35s. These will help to put an end to the insurgency.

You forget that in america there are also powerful lobby groups that oppose americas industrial complex.

The question is why are the Americans reluctant to sell arms to us? It is simplistic to just say because we are black. Given the fact that the U.S is a friendly nation to Nigeria.