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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Nobody: 1:49pm On Sep 24, 2014
bukatyne:

Can you define the insult?

You are not a wife and you have good advices on polygamy? Nice

Get married to a man you love so much and want to build happily after with and have him marry a second wife (because he loves her so much) then come back to read all your posts on this thread.

lady, move it right along Please.

He won't have reasons to. I don't judge. the instance I notice it, I would sit him down and not delude myself with 'he loves me too much'. Something someone is doing out there caught his attention, I will find out what it is and take it from there. If it can't be nipped, then we'd take the next step.

Even me don't like to share so I'm just gon' make him see reasons why I can't. If we can find a compromise, jolly good! If not, she can be a 'Mrs' outside my home. Simple!

When I'm not 'rose abokoku'

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by tintingz(m): 1:50pm On Sep 24, 2014
TV01:
Widows can marry single people, divorcees or other widowers. And I refer specifically to "the younger widowers. At an age, many prefer to remain single.


As previous. And the remedy for one ill is not to introduce another.


As previous


As previous. And the remedy for one ill is not to introduce another.
Ofcos widows can marry single people, but in Nigeria men prefer fresh single ladies.


A number of things here;

1. These are the stigma & misfortune that women face everywhere. Divorce and baby mama'ism are not best for a flourishing society. Losing a spouse is tragic, but it unfortunately happens. Should women with husbands venture to marry widowers? Or is that the prefered solution for widowers?

2. In all the case mentioned, the arrival of a new woman on another womans territory casues upheaval, at best the incumbent may manage the situation, but it is rearely the case that she sees it as best for her and her children.
In many polygamy marriages wives don't live under same roof, things have change in these new age.

3. As in the case in question - i.e. the OP - the vast majority of additional wives will not touch the categories outlined. Men typically accumulate younger, fresher wives - which also adds to the incumbents psychological trauma - lets not decieve anyone here.

We are men, we don't have a young pretty wife at home and then start coveting the older not-as-nubile woman outside. There would have to be another reason for that - riches, connections, prestige etc. - non of which are reasons to marry. And neither is the "charitable" reason you are insinuating.
and what her the reason to marry?

some women who ran to men to be their second wife did it for security, wealth etc you will see them with chiefs, wealthy men.


Not more than marginally so - to them and society - and there are better and preferred solutions as well as greater costs than any benefit. Like I said the vast majority of additional wives do not fall into the categories you outlined. It's basically a wandering dick scam.


TV
Please, can you state why women in polygamy marriage prefer the marriage than monogamy, why will a woman agree to be a second, third, forth wife of a man.
Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by cococandy(f): 1:55pm On Sep 24, 2014
If a man wants to bring in another woman,don't hurt yourself by thinking someone out there is doing something better than you.
Wrong.
You could be perfect but as long as he's set his mind on the fact that you're not enough,he'll always find reasons to justify his lust.
If it was about what one's spouse is doing wrong,all men would have many wives to compensate for whatever fault each woman has. And all women would have many husbands to make up for what the others lack.

Good to know you CAN'T share.
yeyenatu:

He won't have reasons to. I don't judge. the instance I notice it, I would sit him down and not delude myself with 'he loves me too much'. Something someone is doing out there caught his attention, I will find out what it is and take it from there. If it can't be nipped, then we'd take the next step.

Even me don't like to share so I'm just gon' make him see reasons why I can't. If we can find a compromise, jolly good! If not, she can be a 'Mrs' outside my home. Simple!

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by TV01(m): 1:56pm On Sep 24, 2014
yeyenatu: One: I don't know which point you are referring to. The one you want me to see or the one there is to see.
The obvious one you are in denial about.

yeyenatu:
Two: superior in what ways? From what point of view? Monogamy means one man-one wife, right? Yeah... why not?! its fun, you can be carefree and relaxed and not bother as you are now the 'mrs'.!
Monogamy is superior simply because it gives equal agency to both partners and provides the ideal setting to meet their individual needs and requirements of their children. Polygamy does not enhance it in any way and introduces a slew of issues and potential problems.

Alternatively you can simply explain why monogamy is not superior or why polygamy is superior, instead of asserting it's just as good and merely a choice - like attending OAU or Harvard. Apologies to OAU'ites grin!

yeyenatu:
But it doesn't make it better than the guys who thinks they found love somewhere else but would rather bring her home for his wife to accept or not accept, than abhor lustful thoughts every single period of oneness being shared. Nothing makes monogamy superior than polygamy. Each has its pros and cons. And choices, he takes her or he doesn't. She stays or she doesn't. Choices.
How glaring? And yet the girl who finds romance with someone else is not simply free to introduce fyneflyguy to the marital home? All you've done here is state that polygamy is about mens desires - as I've maintained all along.

yeyenatu:
No one whose region doesn't allow it/explain it, should indulge in it. A wife married into a certain religion whose teachings give room to it shouldn't really cry foul. Should just hope for respect and understanding of her feelings by her man. Communication! Communication!!
I fully appreciate that some people, cultures, or religions practice it and that some jurisdictions have legalised it. Neither am I being prescriptive about it - merely descriptive. As you yourself have outlined, monogamy is superior - starting with it's fairness and equally valuing both parties.

yeyenatu:
Third: choices!!! We all have moments of sadness. It's not every time we have that "oh alalah' kind of feelings. Acceptance just makes things a lot easier in such situations. Human are general ever satisfied.
Emotive and funny. In polygamy, the real choices are with the man. The womans choice is whether to accept the mans choice - which is no choice really.

yeyenatu:
Four: a woman that has issues with her complex, regardless of the kind of marriage she is in, would still have issues. Inferior?! Really?! She is a being that has every right to do what makes her happy. Even if its leaving a marriage that is going to involve other people. I'm fabulous and firm. In whatever type of marriage, I WILL shine! It's a decision and a choice.
And polygamy introduces complexes for women by it's very design. But of course, a "multiple" wife has to form differently or face the truth of her situation.

yeyenatu:
Fantasy marriage? Well, I don't give a rat's... about what men think of it. to each his own.
The most laughable part of all, polygamy is exactly that - all about what the men think cheesy!

All very emotive but with no real substance. And the people affirming your posts well know this - so don't comment.

And way to argue that men and their desires have primacy over women and their needs.


TV

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Nobody: 2:01pm On Sep 24, 2014
tintingz: Ofcos widows can marry single people, but in Nigeria men prefer fresh single ladies.
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Twisted. This is why some People get all frenzied. That the younger fresh girl is going to get all the love. Smh! Chai! Long thing!
Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by tintingz(m): 2:03pm On Sep 24, 2014
bukatyne:

Are you a Christian?
I'm a Jew undecided

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by tintingz(m): 2:07pm On Sep 24, 2014
yeyenatu:

Twisted. This is why some People get all frenzied. That the younger fresh girl is going to get all the love. Smh! Chai! Long thing!
grin smiley
Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by TV01(m): 2:12pm On Sep 24, 2014
tintingz: Ofcos widows can marry single people, but in Nigeria men prefer fresh single ladies.
As obtains everywhere. Likewise for baby mamas. So what's your point? Does polygamy restrict multiple wives to the widowed or baby mamas? Do the vast majority of multiple wives have that status prior to marriage?

tintingz:
In many polygamy marriages wives don't live under same roof, things have change in these new age.
So a wife and children do not have immediate access to the husband. He is not constantly interacting with his spouse and children?
When jnr falls ill, the father may be busy elsewhere? Or at critical periods in a wife or childs life, he will not be able to devote his full attention to them. Another flaw of polygamy

tintingz: and what her the reason to marry?
Best ask OP.

But it's certain that most multiple wives are not due to being widows, baby mamas or older singles

tintingz: some women who ran to men as second wife did for security, wealth etc you will see them with chiefs. .
I'm not denying it as a choice, I'm not even parsing it morally, merely showing that structurally polygamy is flawed.

tintingz: Please, can you state why women in polygamy marriage prefer the marriage than monogamy, why will a woman agree to be a second, third, forth wife of a man.
I can think of a number of reasons. Why not invite them to say? I'd say some are are due to the reasons you mentioned, but many out of greed or desperation. And why do you assume women in polygamy prefer polygamy? It's probably needs and situation driven. And please poll 1st wives and ask them if they prefer polygamy. I'd wager that even those 1st wives who accept it, would not prefer it.


TV

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by cococandy(f): 2:17pm On Sep 24, 2014
And please poll 1st wives and ask them if they prefer polygamy. I'd wager that even those 1st wives who accept it, would not prefer it.


TV



Too bad they are put in a position of no choice.
Accept or leave. So some accept because leaving to them is worse.
But if given the chance to have what their hearts really desire,it would be a husband who's true to them and faithful to them alone.

Let's not look at women who marry other people's husbands for financial security or the need to settle down because they feel they are getting old or whatever other selfish reason they may have for disrupting another woman's life. Chances are a second wife if she was the first wife wouldn't want her husband bringing in another woman.
But now she's got her eyes set on someone else's husband,why won't she look for reasons to say it is ok.

Let's look at the first wives who are the original women in the men's lives.
If they say they actually prefer polygamy to monogamy,then I'll believe them.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by tbaba1234: 2:21pm On Sep 24, 2014
cococandy: And please poll 1st wives and ask them if they prefer polygamy. I'd wager that even those 1st wives who accept it, would not prefer it.


TV


In this life, we do not always get what we prefer , we sometimes have to make the best of what is.

That is the key to happiness.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by cococandy(f): 2:25pm On Sep 24, 2014
Does that apply to women alone?
If the wife is not measuring up,why can't he make the best of the situation instead of going out to have more and more of what he wants?
tbaba1234:

In this life, we do not always get what we prefer , we sometimes have to make the best of what is.

That is the key to happiness.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Shirley07: 2:26pm On Sep 24, 2014
yeyenatu:

One: I don't know which point you are referring to. The one you want me to see or the one there is to see.

Two: superior in what ways? From what point of view? Monogamy means one man-one wife, right? Yeah... why not?! its fun, you can be carefree and relaxed and not bother as you are now the 'mrs'.!
But it doesn't make it better than the guys who thinks they found love somewhere else but would rather bring her home for his wife to accept or not accept, than abhor lustful thoughts every single period of oneness being shared. Nothing makes monogamy superior than polygamy. Each has its pros and cons. And choices, he takes her or he doesn't. She stays or she doesn't. Choices.

No one whose region doesn't allow it/explain it, should indulge in it. A wife married into a certain religion whose teachings give room to it shouldn't really cry foul. Should just hope for respect and understanding of her feelings by her man. Communication! Communication!!

Third: choices!!! We all have moments of sadness. It's not every time we have that "oh alalah' kind of feelings. Acceptance just makes things a lot easier in such situations. Human are general ever satisfied.

Four: a woman that has issues with her complex, regardless of the kind of marriage she is in, would still have issues. Inferior?! Really?! She is a being that has every right to do what makes her happy. Even if its leaving a marriage that is going to involve other people. I'm fabulous and firm. In whatever type of marriage, I WILL shine! It's a decision and a choice.

Fantasy marriage? Well, I don't give a rat's... about what men think of it. to each his own.
What exactly are you trying to point out?
You're saying monogamy is flawed because some men violate its principle yet you failed to realize that same logic could be applied to polygamy too? Because there are countless polygamous men who have concubines atside their wives at home.
The truth is a cheating spouse will always be a cheater whether he's in a monogamy or polygamy setting!
Infact, if we're to compare both system, Monogamy still remains the best.
As a matter of fact, men who violates the principles of monogamy are doing it because they have dirty habits and not because the system is flawed!

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Nobody: 2:31pm On Sep 24, 2014
TV01:
The obvious one you are in denial about.

Which is? You'd have to pinpoint it. So I can really get it.

TV01:
Monogamy is superior simply because it gives equal agency to both partners and provides the ideal setting to meet their individual needs and requirements of their children. Polygamy does not enhance it in any way and introduces a slew of issues and potential problems.
issues are abound in every marriage, oga Ade. cheesy equality is in the mind oooo. If she doesn't fee equal to him, he'd walk all over her regardless of the kind of marriage they are in.
There are children of monogamous homes that are way twisted than the kids from polygamous homes. Depends on how they are brought up by their parents. #parents# not the marriage per se.
So a father can't give love to his child because he has two wives? Or a father showers TLC on his wife and child only because he is in a monogamous marriage.
Fa fa foul!!!! I'm the love of my father's life ooo! In fact, we all are!!! I'm from a polygamous home, I don't have any regret having a step mum. She is awesome, to us and to her 'iyale'. Why? Upbringing! There brats brought up in some monogamous homes that shouldn't even be married sef. Jst saying#

TV01:

Alternatively you can simply explain why monogamy is not superior or why polygamy is superior, instead of asserting it's just as good and merely a choice - like attending OAU or Harvard. Apologies to OAU'ites grin!
none is superior. Superiority shouldn't even come into play here ni. Se finis!!

TV01:
How glaring? And yet the girl who finds romance with someone else is not simply free to introduce fyneflyguy to the marital home? All you've done here is state that polygamy is about mens desires - as I've maintained all along.

hmmmmm... now back to gender equality again. Religion allows it, so he has a choice to do it. She can leave the religion if it doesn't suit her life choices. And admiring other people? That's why I mentioned that 'people' are the one with the issh.
I'm not going to go into gender equality issh here. There is a religion that's allows more than one wife and there is one that doesn't. If you want to choose your faith because of your view on marital isshs, go for it!!!

TV01:

I fully appreciate that some people, cultures, or religions practice it and that some jurisdictions have legalised it. Neither am I being prescriptive about it - merely descriptive.
okay then.

TV01:
Complexes

Niqqa pls!!!!! That's just you saying women are inferior, got nothing to do with the issue of marriage or its types.

I say what I wanna say. If it's agreeable to people? Jolly good. It can also be frowned at by others. But it's my opinion. Not saying it to dîkk ride. Are you? grin

YYN

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Shirley07: 2:37pm On Sep 24, 2014
tbaba1234:

In this life, we do not always get what we prefer , we sometimes have to make the best of what is.

That is the key to happiness.
Are you a product of a polygamous home?
Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Nobody: 2:41pm On Sep 24, 2014
cococandy: If a man wants to bring in another woman,don't hurt yourself by thinking someone out there is doing something better than you.
Wrong.
You could be perfect but as long as he's set his mind on the fact that you're not enough,he'll always find reasons to justify his lust.
If it was about what one's spouse is doing wrong,all men would have many wives to compensate for whatever fault each woman has. And all women would have many husbands to make up for what the others lack.

Good to know you CAN'T share.

Hehehehehe... hurt myself?! Looooonnnngggg thing!!!! I have my job and can independently care for my kids. I am not going to bring sadness into my life because a man finds his thing itching towards someone else. I didn't mean it in that contest. I meant that we are not perfect and always learning. Curiosity will make me want to know why. If it's just pure lust, why? What can be done? No one just starts to develop lust in marriage. Come on!!! I'm not one to turn blind eye, i'm too keen not to notice a wandering dîck when I see one. So, I can remove him from the list of eligible bachelor's. grin But my religion does allow it, and I know what I am into. Can only strive at being a good wife, not for him but because it makes life easier.

@shirley07: 'they' people... are flawed which in turn affect the marriage.

"The truth is a cheating spouse will always be a cheater whether he's in a monogamy or polygamy setting!"
Very true....

Cheers guys!!!


YYN

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by cococandy(f): 2:48pm On Sep 24, 2014
yeyenatu:

Hehehehehe... hurt myself?! Looooonnnngggg thing!!!! I have my job and can independently care for my kids. I am not going to bring sadness into my life because a man finds his thing itching towards someone else. I didn't mean it in that contest. I meant that we are not perfect and always learning. Curiosity will make me want to know why. If it's just pure lust, why? What can be done?

if you're in love,it will hurt you honey. Badly.


No one just starts to develop lust in marriage. Come on!!!

it happens. Those men who cheat on their wives do so out of lust.(Or can you say they love all their girlfriends and buttycalls? It's lust. They only keep it away from their wives because their religion does not support it.so a man in a polygamous society doesn't have to hide his lust. He can just bring it home and rub it in the wife's face.

I'm not one to turn blind eye, i'm too keen not to notice a wandering dîck when I see one. So, I can remove him from the list of eligible bachelor's. grin

that could work wink wink

But my religion does allow it, and I know what I am into. Can only strive at being a good wife, not for him but because it makes life easier.

very well then





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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by macof(m): 2:59pm On Sep 24, 2014
hglmkope: I am from a polygamous family but I have vowed and prayed that by the Grace of God I will not find myself in that situation in Jesus name. I am not just praying it, i am working towards it and I know that God will grant me the desires of my heart.

My mom and step mother had been staying and eating together under the same roof for almost 25 yrs now and in fact most people envy our type of polygamous home because we all live together in peace. I will give credit to my dad for that. He tries as much as possible to treat every of his children equally without giving much preference to either of his wives.
As a child, i detested the whole polygamy stuff and I remembered when I was 7 seven years, I asked my mom why she married my dad (my mum is the 2nd wife and she did not know until she was pregnant). I also told her that she could have walked away with her first child(my sister) when she knew.

During the early years of my life, i hated everything about my family but as I grew, i realised that this is the one thing that I can not change about my life. Ever since then, I love and treat every one with great admiration and respect.

Despite the fact that my family seems to live together in peace, I cannot deny that there were times where envying and strife set in especially when one child excel more than the other.
Take for instance, there was a time when myself and my eldest step brother went to write post UME in one University, I gained admission but he did not. I felt the friction between us during that time. We used to be very close but all of a sudden he was cold to me. I understood then and all I did was just to pray ceaselessly that God should grant him the desires of his heart and God did that just that.

Based on this experience and many others that I cannot share here, I have decided that polygamy is not an option for me. Conflicts among children with the same parents is more than enough. I do not want to compound issues for my unborn children.




and you think polygamy is the cause of envy?

Brothers of both parents envy each other so what's the big deal?

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by macof(m): 3:09pm On Sep 24, 2014
freecocoa: *spreads camp bed*

My dad is from a polygamous home, grandpa married about 10 wives(i know 2 besides my grandma), my grandma was the no 9, hearing from my dad, aunts and uncles, it wasn't easy, till now, there's no unity amongst them, they don't even know where some of their step siblings are.

I don't believe anything good can come out of polygamy.

So ur dad isn't anything good

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by macof(m): 3:10pm On Sep 24, 2014
bukatyne:

How did your father marry his polygamous lifestyle with his religion (Christianity)?

The Bible frowns against it and been the husband of one wife is a mandatory pre-requisite for becoming an elder

And wat was Abraham thr so called father of your faith?

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by bellong: 3:15pm On Sep 24, 2014
macof:

And wat was Abraham thr so called father of your faith?

You can ask your question with decorum. Don't turn this thread to religious war. This is how it starts.

Be civil pls.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Nobody: 3:20pm On Sep 24, 2014
macof:

And wat was Abraham thr so called father of your faith?

It doesn't really matter how many wives and concubines he had as the New Testament states that it should be one wife and wife husband.

Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Mark 10:6-8 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.

1 Corinthians 7:2-4 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.


Just saying.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by tbaba1234: 3:20pm On Sep 24, 2014
Shirley07:
Are you a product of a polygamous home?

No,
Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Ghost01(m): 3:26pm On Sep 24, 2014
macof:

So ur dad isn't anything good
Macof, you bad o. grin
Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Shirley07: 3:31pm On Sep 24, 2014
tbaba1234:

No,
That was my thought too.
To my best of knowledge, every male child from a polygamous home never dream of making such home for themselves!

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by tbaba1234: 3:42pm On Sep 24, 2014
cococandy: Does that apply to women alone?
If the wife is not measuring up,why can't he make the best of the situation instead of going out to have more and more of what he wants?

It applies to everyone.

Your statement is based on the assumption that all men get married to multiple wives because of a failure of the first.

That is not true.

And when I say, make the best of an unpreferred situation, that leaves you with options.

Stay if you can accept it, leave if you can't. Either way, make yourself happy knowing that the situation is not preferred.

You see, polygamy was an absolute necessity in some societies in the past. In agrarian communities, big families provided labour needed for survival.

In some societies, it offers practical solution to problems, for instance in black america 70% of children are born outside wedlock. This is mainly because the ratio of men to women is unfavourably skewed.

Many black men are in jail.

Polygamy is much better than having baby-mamas all over the place whom you have no obligation to.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by tbaba1234: 3:46pm On Sep 24, 2014
Shirley07:
That was my thought too.
To my best of knowledge, every male child from a polygamous home never dream of making such home for themselves!

Generalisation.

My dad is from a polygamous home and it was a good one.

Some women from polygamous homes remain best of friends even in old age.

It is not all gloom and doom.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by cococandy(f): 3:48pm On Sep 24, 2014
tbaba1234:

It applies to everyone.

Your statement is based on the assumption that all men get married to multiple wives because of a failure of the first.

ok. So most do because they found new love? Ok. The old love can stay or leave if she wants. Either way the man's gotta have what the man's gotta have


That is not true.

And when I say, make the best of an unpreferred situation, that leaves you with options.

the devil or the deep blue sea. That's all the choice it gives the woman. Not much to chose from.

Stay if you can accept it, leave if you can't. Either way, make yourself happy knowing that the situation is not preferred.

and all because the man couldn't care less about she wants. It's gotta be about him.

You see, polygamy was an absolute necessity in some societies in the past. In agrarian communities, big families provided labour needed for survival.

in the past. In the past. In the past. Key word. IN THE PAST!


In some societies, it offers practical solution to problems, for instance in black america 70% of children are born outside wedlock. This is mainly because the ratio of men to women is unfavourably skewed.

first of all,it isn't. But let me indulge you and agree that it. What do you make of polygamous men who marry younger single ladies?
If it was all for charity,why don't they marry up all the old hags in town?
All single older ladies should be lined up and picked off the streets by these very generous and benevolent men. Not so?
But newer wives are almost always younger than the first wife grin
We are not decieved.


Many black men are in jail.

Polygamy is much better than having baby-mamas all over the place whom you have no obligation to.

as above. In addition,there's no difference. A woman in polygamy isn't better than a baby mama. How so?
Baby mams get the same benefit they do. Occasional attention from the baby papa,then he's off to see his other women.
Tsk tsk. Too bad.
At least a baby mama has some peace. No wife to compete with or fear of diabolical manipulations to get favor from the man more.
The two are wrong.
But
If I'm to chose,I'll be a baby mama



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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Nobody: 3:50pm On Sep 24, 2014
It's very easy to paint a rosy picture of something when you're not the one living it. Please let's hear from first wives because usually they are the ones who receive the short end of the stick

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by TV01(m): 3:57pm On Sep 24, 2014
yeyenatu: Which is? You'd have to pinpoint it. So I can really get it.
You can't comprehend. Your whole arguement is not even about marriage, it's about how a woman responds to a mans unfettered lust within it.

yeyenatu:
issues are abound in every marriage, oga Ade.
Practically maybe, but in monogamy, it's not by design, not in principle and not as standard.

yeyenatu:
cheesy equality is in the mind oooo. If she doesn't fee equal to him, he'd walk all over her regardless of the kind of marriage they are in.
By definition, if a man has 2 or more wives, none of them can have worth equal to his.

yeyenatu:
There are children of monogamous homes that are way twisted than the kids from polygamous homes. Depends on how they are brought up by their parents. #parents# not the marriage per se.
And your assertion does not change the structural deficiencies in polygamy.

yeyenatu:
So a father can't give love to his child because he has two wives? Or a father showers TLC on his wife and child only because he is in a monogamous marriage.
Men typically love their offspring regardles. That is not in question. Their ability to do so unrestrained with multiple wives is.

yeyenatu:
Fa fa foul!!!! I'm the love of my father's life ooo! In fact, we all are!!! I'm from a polygamous home, I don't have any regret having a step mum. She is awesome, to us and to her 'iyale'. Why? Upbringing! There brats brought up in some monogamous homes that shouldn't even be married sef. Jst saying#
You don;t make a case for polygamy by trashing others practice of monogamy. Emotive, assertive, but not of the required level. Peole here are somewhat discerning

yeyenatu:
none is superior. Superiority shouldn't even come into play here ni. Se finis!!
Au contraire - monogamy clearly is - as demonstrated. You couldn't even extol the virtues of polygamy, you went straight to formulating responses to a man with an itch in his pants. You are both subject to his lustful nature.

yeyenatu:
hmmmmm... now back to gender equality again. Religion allows it, so he has a choice to do it. She can leave the religion if it doesn't suit her life choices. And admiring other people? That's why I mentioned that 'people' are the one with the issh.
As stated, that something as allowed by religion or by law, does not make it sound. And I've clearly stated that I'm not having that discussion.

yeyenatu:
I'm not going to go into gender equality issh here. There is a religion that's allows more than one wife and there is one that doesn't. If you want to choose your faith because of your view on marital isshs, go for it!!!
No bender politics either. Just the structure of both models.

yeyenatu:
Niqqa pls!!!!! That's just you saying women are inferior, got nothing to do with the issue of marriage or its types.
Nope, polygamy by definition makes women inferior. In agency, in need and in worth. It's a little sad that a woman would actually argue for it.

yeyenatu:
I say what I wanna say. If it's agreeable to people? Jolly good. It can also be frowned at by others. But it's my opinion. Not saying it to dîkk ride. Are you? grin
Nope, just objectively showing why it's a bad all round deal. Not good for men, women or the flourishing of society and not widely taken up even where it is legal. No country in the world has a majority of polygamous marriage. Flawed by design and even against nature given a natural birthrate of around 105 boys to 100 girls


I have made my points in this discussion without recourse to religion or even morality. I have merely parsed the structural outworking of polygamy, and where needed, in contrast to monogamy.

Someone for polygamy earlier stated that "all men are cheaters". It's that kind of thinking you need to sell to yourself to whole-heartedly accept polygamy. I thank God that I stand in direct testimony against that statement and that type of thinking.

I'm beginning to loop and neither YYN - who made a spirited but ultimately substanceless effort - nor her phantom constituency have made anything but assertions.

I'm here if you have anything new and relevent to share.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by Nobody: 3:59pm On Sep 24, 2014
I have been following this thread from the beginning and it strikes me that the supporters of polygamy mention that polygamy IN THE PAST was a necessity to manage a family's farm but never mention that TODAY we have a serious problem with overpopulation that has and will continue to have serious and severe consequences.

Just wanted to add a new aspect to this discussion that I think is important.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by tbaba1234: 4:01pm On Sep 24, 2014
tatiana009: It's very easy to paint a rosy picture of something when you're not the one living it. Please let's hear from first wives because usually they are the ones who receive the short end of the stick

A few months ago, a woman in a polygamous marriage was here, talking about how happy she was in her marriage.

That narrative did not go down well with some folks.

I posted a story earlier of a woman who was the second of three wives. She actually set out to look for a married man or a divorcee.

I have seen good examples of happy polygamous homes so I know, it is attainable.

I have also seen horrific tales of monogamous homes, so I understand it is not perfect.

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Re: A Thread For "Everything Polygamy"! by macof(m): 4:02pm On Sep 24, 2014
carefreewannabe:

It doesn't really matter how many wives and concubines he had as the New Testament states that it should be one wife and wife husband.



Just saying.

In other words Abraham shouldn't be a role model in christianity

It's either that or Christianity is hypocritical

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