morpheus24:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

JACOB YOU TOO FUNNY.

ITs OBVIOUS****in Julius malema voice***

if we talk am dem go say naija don start with insult.

Your number 1 Citizen has confirmed it.

But all foreigners (especially from poorer countries) are hard working compared to locals, I read comments on this forum where the people from one region were described as lazy by those coming from another region. The East Europeans and South Asians say the same thing about local British people.

morpheus24:


1. There's nothing such as a north African Caucasian?? That's a dubious way of including West Asians into Caucasoid aka "white" classifications.

2. Berber/Amazighs who are indigenous North Africans are not the same thing as calling invading Arabs "Africans.". Even they acknowledge that.

3. All human beings are not African. According to the "out of Africa" theory, All descendants of homo sapien sapiens originate from Africa. Big difference.

Berbers are west Eurasians, they're from the Levant.
All Caucasians are descendants of middle eastern farmers from the fertile crescent, Europeans, Berbers, Arabs, Iranians, north Indians even horn Africans are all Caucasians.

If Berbers are Africans, than Afrikaners too are Africans.

vdGeist:

Berbers are west Eurasians, they're from the Levant.
All Caucasians are descendants of middle eastern farmers from the fertile crescent, Europeans, Berbers, Arabs, Iranians, north Indians even horn Africans are all Caucasians.
If Berbers are Africans, than Afrikaners too are Africans.

Eurocentric 19th century race science BS. The dubious substitution of "white" for "Caucasian"_ A so called anthropological cranio-metric measurement.

Meanwhile these guys are not Negro according to that pseudo science. The horn of African Caucasian comment is just laughable.

You can subscribe to that nonsense if it makes you feel better or simply stick to the topic. Afrikaners are not indigenous to the continent.

I didn't get Bantu education?

vdGeist will lose this one because this is morpheus24's favourite subject. African anthropology turns him on, he probably gets a very stiff hard on coupled with multiple orgasms whenever the subject shows up.

LOL at the "heavenly feelings" censor.

paniki:
vdGeist will lose this one because this is morpheus24's favourite subject. African anthropology turns him on, he probably gets a very stiff hard on coupled with multiple orgasms whenever the subject shows up.

I was expecting a comment from you, what took you so long?

morpheus24:


I was expecting a comment from you, what took you so long?

I don't have any comment on the origins of human beings.

morpheus24:


Eurocentric 19th century race science BS. The dubious substitution of "white" for "Caucasian"_ A so called anthropological cranio-metric measurement.

Meanwhile these guys are not Negro according to that pseudo science. The horn of African Caucasian comment is just laughable.

You can subscribe to that nonsense if it makes you feel better or simply stick to the topic. I didn't get Bantu education?

Genetically Somalis, Habesha, Oromo etc are closer to Berbers and Arabs than they're to other black Africans. this is fact.
Horn Africans just like Berbers are a result of back migration from the Middle East.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race

Caucasian race (also Caucasoid [1] or Europid [2] ) is the general physical type of some or all of the populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia , Central Asia, and South Asia. [3]

vdGeist:

Genetically Somalis, Habesha, Oromo etc are closer to Berbers and Arabs than they're to other black Africans. this is fact.
Horn Africans just like Berbers are a result of back migration from the Middle East.

Genetically speaking African Americans have 15 to 30% European genes in them. Why haven't they been grouped with Caucasoids at this point.

Horn Africans have about the same % of genetic component in their DNA from West Asians, the rest is indigenous African and some how they fall into this category because their head shapes and nose bridges cluster with West Asians.

Again BS science.

I am not Bantu educated!

vdGeist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
Caucasian race (also Caucasoid [1] or Europid [2] ) is the general physical type of some or all of the populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia , Central Asia, and South Asia. [3]

Wikipedia nonsense again from 19th century race science supported by carlton coon.

Caucasian_ anyone belonging to the race of most europeans, also known as white

Caucasoid_Any one having the same cranio metric head shape as people who inhabit europe, this would include North Africans, West Asians, Central Asians and the likes.

In other words anyone who's headshape is similar to that of a white person can be refered to a caucasoid. An "oid" means to be like something but not quite as in Android or humanoid. So everyother people including Horn Africans are like White people but not quite like them.

Again an attempt to cast teh Caucasian net across the planet to claim peoples who are not "white" and use Caucasian as the archetype.

Sorry I can see through eurocentric science. You can believe that nonsense if if helps you sleep at night. Its all gibberish to me.

Why is it these non Africans below are not considered negroids or Africoids when it is plain to see that they can be considered as such. Double standards at play here.

Please stick to the topic on Zuma;s comments and let this one go. You wont win.

iterator25:

just one question, were they paid for their work or not? and for the record, development is not about building structures. we have structures as well

Obviously they were not paid enough, but still it doesn't change the fact that Black people built the country, I don't get what your point is.

Helghast:


Obviously they were not paid enough, but still it doesn't change the fact that Black people built the country, I don't get what your point is.

look at it this way, we paid the Chinese to build a couple of structures for us, and they tell us they built nigeria. . dude seriously? the boers built SA for themselves and they paid you for your work. you were never part of the ownership plan thats why you were segregated (until the world, plus Nigeria cried out). did you 'built' denel too?

98% of the R % D that elevated SA was pre-94 , go figure!

vdGeist:


Built by foreign firms like Julius Berger..

lmao! we have over 30 indigenous construction firms here with fantastic portfolio (we don't do BEE lad)

vdGeist:


Boers are not colonizers, but SA citizens.

what do you say about the Boers in poverty, are they not lazy too?

the fact remains, you were never part of the plan, thats why you were segregated

morpheus24:


Genetically speaking African Americans have 15 to 30% European genes in them. Why haven't they been grouped with Caucasoids at this point.

Horn Africans have about the same % of genetic component in their DNA from West Asians, the rest is indigenous African and some how they fall into this category because their head shapes and nose bridges cluster with West Asians.

Again BS science.

I am not Bantu educated!

We know that race is a social construct, what we're interested in is ancestry. Individuals in the AA population vary in the amount of European ancestry they have, this ranges from less than 5% to over 90% (one drop rule), in a different society like Brazil, some AA would have been classified as White.

In the horn of Africa, West Asian ancestry is over 50%, which is why horn African cluster with West Asian and not SSA.

morpheus24:

Wikipedia nonsense again from 19th century race science supported by carlton coon.

Caucasian_ anyone belonging to the race of most europeans, also known as white

Caucasoid_Any one having the same cranio metric head shape as people who inhabit europe, this would include North Africans, West Asians, Central Asians and the likes.

In other words anyone who's headshape is similar to that of a white person can be refered to a caucasoid. An "oid" means to be like something but not quite as in Android or humanoid. So everyother people including Horn Africans are like White people but not quite like them.

Again an attempt to cast teh Caucasian net across the planet to claim peoples who are not "white" and use Caucasian as the archetype.

Sorry I can see through eurocentric science. You can believe that nonsense if if helps you sleep at night. Its all gibberish to me.

Why is it these non Africans below are not considered negroids or Africoids when it is plain to see that they can be considered as such. Double standards at play here.

Please stick to the topic on Zuma;s comments and let this one go. You wont win.

The point is, the groups classified as Caucasian/caucasoid aren't just close physically, but genetically too, meaning they have a common origin. Unlike those pics you've posted (who were grouped with black africans BTW, so there was no double standard), they only cluster physically with black Africans, but don't genetically, culturally, linguistics etc.

iterator25:
lmao! we have over 30 indigenous construction firms here with fantastic portfolio (we don't do BEE lad)

Show them and what they've built, why is it that when ever I see a project on the front page it's always foreign firms doing the construction? Why would Nigeria do a policy like BEE, was there any discriminatory policies against curtain groups in Nigeria in the past?

You do have federal character ofcoz, why is that?

Check this one on the FP for example, construction firms doing construction. CCECC Nig and Julius Berger, where are the indigenous construction firms?


Abuja-Kaduna Rail Line To Be Delivered By December - FG
www.nairaland.com/1960800/abuja-kaduna-rail-line-completed-handed

iterator25:
the fact remains, you were never part of the plan, thats why you were segregated

And the Igbos were not part of Awolowo's plan.

Are the poor white people in SA also lazy?

iterator25:
the fact remains, you were never part of the plan, thats why you were segregated

And the Igbos were not part of Awolowo's plan.

Are the poor white people in SA also lazy?

iterator25:
look at it this way, we paid the Chinese to build a couple of structures for us, and they tell us they built nigeria. . dude seriously? the boers built SA for themselves and they paid you for your work. you were never part of the ownership plan thats why you were segregated (until the world, plus Nigeria cried out). did you 'built' denel too?

98% of the R % D that elevated SA was pre-94 , go figure!

Everybody was paid, black and white, those will be proud of what they build in Nigeria. Point is, all south Africans contributed into making SA what it is now, just because some were unfairly treated doesn't mean they didn't contribute.
In fact, the country would have been more developed and far better (economically and socially) today if there had been no discrimination.

vdGeist:


Show them and what they've built, why is it that when ever I see a project on the front page it's always foreign firms doing the construction? Why would Nigeria do a policy like BEE, was there any discriminatory policies against curtain groups in Nigeria in the past?

You do have federal character ofcoz, why is that?

Firstly, and for the record, 'Julius Berger Nigeria' is now wholly owned by Nigeria, we bought it!

And as you requested,
This is being built on a reclaimed highland .

uyo airport [UC]


www.nairaland.com/attachments/1174082_uyo_airport_jpge8da0641f50bd611fcc1a8b6740107ac
for more alcon-nig.com/index.php/lprojectsmenu

Another
www.dantata-sawoe.com


etteharo.com/
We build ships and apcs as well

vdGeist:


And the Igbos were not part of Awolowo's plan.

Are the poor white people in SA also lazy?

yes they were until they decided they don't wanna be part of the plans... I guess you know little of Nigeria's history

iterator25:

Firstly, and for the record, 'Julius Berger Nigeria' is now wholly owned by Nigeria, we bought it!

And as you requested,
This is being built on a reclaimed highland .

uyo airport [UC]


www.nairaland.com/attachments/1174082_uyo_airport_jpge8da0641f50bd611fcc1a8b6740107ac
for more alcon-nig.com/index.php/lprojectsmenu

Another
www.dantata-sawoe.com


etteharo.com/
We build ships and apcs as well

Check my edited post.

vdGeist:


Check my edited post.

seen, all managers to ceo and workers on field at Julius berger nigeria are blacks same cant be said of CCECC

iterator25:
yes they were until they decided they don't wanna be part of the plans... I guess you know little of Nigeria's history

And you know little of SA history. Were the Afrikaners part of the plan of the British?

Are the poor white people also lazy?

vdGeist:


And you know little of SA history. Were the Afrikaners part of the plan of the British?

Are the poor white people also lazy?

I dont get your point.

iterator25:
seen, all managers to ceo and workers on field at Julius berger nigeria are blacks same cant be said of CCECC

all Julius berger managers to CEO are blacks yet we see stories like these.


How Germans Abuse Nigerian Workers, On Nigerian Soil

By Emma Amaize WARRI-NIGERIAN workers of Julius Berger Nigeria Plc, Ekpan, near Warri, Delta State, have protested alleged persecution and prejudice against them by a German official of the company, who directed that low- grade black workers should not have a canteen on the company's premises.

http://odili.net/news/source/2011/jun/20/307.htm

Nigerian firms are clearly a tiny portion of the Nigerian construction industry, even the Nigerian firms employ foreigners.

iterator25:
I dont get your point.

Do you know about the poor White problem.


Carnegie Commission of Investigation on the Poor White Question in South Africa
" (1932)
was a study of poverty among white South
Africans that made recommendations about
segregation that some have argued would
later serve as a blueprint for Apartheid .[1] The
report was funded and published by the
Carnegie Corporation .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_Commission_of_Investigation_on_the_Poor_White_Question_in_South_Africa

vdGeist:


all Julius berger managers to CEO are blacks yet we see stories like these.


How Germans Abuse Nigerian Workers, On Nigerian Soil

By Emma Amaize WARRI-NIGERIAN workers of Julius Berger Nigeria Plc, Ekpan, near Warri, Delta State, have protested alleged persecution and prejudice against them by a German official of the company, who directed that low- grade black workers should not have a canteen on the company's premises.

http://odili.net/news/source/2011/jun/20/307.htm

Nigerian firms are clearly a tiny portion of the Nigerian construction industry, even the Nigerian firms employ foreigners.

lmao! odili.net? wait, did you see foreigners in the pictures i posted? take your time to visit eko Atlantic city and see the top brass to field workers.. so you burnt time with Google to dig out nonsense like this?

iterator25:
lmao! odili.net? wait, did you see foreigners in the pictures in posted? take your time to visit eko Atlantic city and see the top brass to field workers

The brains behind eko Atlantic is a Lebanese.

vdGeist:


The brains behind eko Atlantic is a Lebanese.

he's a Nigerian... but since we're talking about blacks, its cool

just for the record, after the Nigerian civil war, many Lebanese settled in northern part. . so we have a huge Lebanese community here

iterator25:
he's a Nigerian... but since we're talking about blacks, its cool

Without the Lebanese guy Eko Atlantic wouldn't happen.

Without foreigners, 95% of the little (by world standard) development in Nigeria wouldn't be there.
Your entire oil industry was developed by foreigners. FACT

iterator25:
he's a Nigerian... but since we're talking about blacks, its cool

just for the record, after the Nigerian civil war, many Lebanese settled in northern part. . so we have a huge Lebanese community here

And they've built a lot of Abuja, they own lots of property there.
I saw a thread about this.