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Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:17pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Missy89: The word is here to stay. And it's a word only black people can use...these folks need to deal with it. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:19pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane: there is also a casual link between the conduct of the guy and the harm caused on the innocent passengers. If you apply the reasonable person test to determine negligence you would also realise that if he had not defended himself by getting in the way of other innocent passengers, harm would not have been inflicted on innocent passengers too. I'm glad you know elements of a crime too |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 6:19pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
@mondisweets, where did it show in the video that he beat up innocent bystanders? Did I miss that part or what? If I am not wrong, all that mouthing and shyt talking that lady was doing could be considered as disturbing the peace, she should be fined for that. It is not illegal to defend yourself in public, I have given you answers to questions which will be asked if public interest was to be considered. He passed. You keep on mentioning innocent people? Who were the innocent people who got hit in that video? What casual link? Do you know what causation is? Mondisweets: 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by wonlasewonimi: 6:20pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane: Impossicant! 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by pickabeau1: 6:20pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
LOL.. funny vid |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:22pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane:I did say countless times that she is at fault so I don't see how i'm defending her. I kept expressing the fact that my concern is with the innocent parties that where involved so I don't see how they are linked to her |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 6:24pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: this is funny! why are there papparazis in the first place if taking pictures in a public place is illegal? of course it's not illegal. you cannot ask anyone not to take your pictures or videotape you on a public transport.....the worst you can do is to block your face. you don't own his camera & you have no right knocking the camera off his hands. he can sue you for criminal damage!
fine by me, then!
that point is understood but this man didn't cause the situation. he was getting away & his retaliation was spontaneous. he didn't think about it - it was not premeditated, he acted out instinctively!
all these points are credible & valid if the victim had the time to think things through. if his reactions were spontaneous then the court can understand why he acted the way he did. there's no way this man could be found guilty of common assault. he never yelled, never made any threatening moves or acted out wildly while he was being verbally abused. he even retreated & then he got whacked in the head. surely, he's blameless! 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by pickabeau1: 6:25pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
2 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 6:25pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: Address my questions joor! Are you arguing in criminal or tort because you are mixing the two. who were the innocent bystanders who got hit in that video 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:26pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
SirShymex: K |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by pickabeau1: 6:28pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane: wonlasewonimi: OUCH!!! 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:31pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane:if I push someone im fighting with against you or if I harm you in the process of fighting with someone else, -will you still not be affected by my actions? -will you still not be harmed by my actions? Did I miss that part or what? If I am not wrong, all that mouthing and shyt talking that lady was doing could be considered as disturbing the peace, she should be fined for that.well sorry I didn't know that disturbing the peace of other innocent parties is not nuisance shouting like that alone without even adding insult to it is a disturbance of peace of others, why don't you show me exactly where I said she was not at fault? It is not illegal to defend yourself in public, I have given you answers to questions which will be asked if public interest was to be considered. He passed.to every ground of justification there has to be a restriction applied to it, just like to every act of freedom there have to be limits applied to it. You keep on mention innocent people? Who were the innocent people in hit in that video?the other passengers that did not engage themselves directly in the fight, im sure you can identify them when you watch the video again. its not everyone that shows in that video that jumped into the fight |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by pickabeau1: 6:32pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
I dont see what is so endearing about a black man referring to another by a hate word (if used by a white) as a term of endearment The word should be binned Nothing fancy about the N - word The problem is that its a white guy who said it Other blacks have being saying it for eons |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 6:32pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: I am sorry but that wasn't personal. You don't seem to know anything about law. Why are you arguing mixing criminal and tort arguments. You will fail if you do this in your exams. We are arguing in criminal, let establish that first before moving to tort. 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 6:40pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: Wait so are you telling me he hit everyone in that video. I watched this video twice after you posted this and I don't see him hitting anyone except those that attacked him. This is a criminal case, read on assault and self defence and then come back to me. 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:43pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:44pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane: THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS OF A CRIME -conduct -unlawfulness -fault -causation -liability THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS OF A DELICT -conduct -unlawfulness -fault -causation -damage -cupability so, what exactly was I mixing up? |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:49pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane: if you failed to understand what I said in my previous post, even though I used simple English then I don't know how else I can help you Mondisweets: |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 6:50pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets:You brought in contributory negligence which is a defence in tort. We are arguing on self defence here which is a criminal defence. 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 6:53pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: but in this video, what you highlighted above didn't happen. i saw a man that defended himself against all the idiƶts that put their hands on him. there's nowhere in the law where it says self defence cannot be acted out in public. in this video, all the innocent folks managed to be out of harm's way. so why is this guy the one to blame? 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by freecocoa(f): 6:57pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
BABE3:Eiyah to them, what a disappointment. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 6:59pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
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Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by freecocoa(f): 6:59pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets:I take it you didn't watch the video because I don't see how his actions affected any other person but his attackers. 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by BABE3: 7:02pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
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Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 7:04pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
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Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 7:07pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane: kandiikane na lawyer? 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 7:09pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane:a crime and delict can exist simultenatously where are a person commits a wrongful act did you try and Google that up too? |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by BABE3: 7:14pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
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Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 7:23pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
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Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 7:25pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: You should try helping yourself first. You still don't get it. We are arguing in criminal, the man did not attack any other persons except those he was defending himself against, he has case. He tried removing himself from the situation but was attacked, the force was reasonable. That reasonableness is judged around the circumstances of how he believed it to be(subjective). Trying to assess whether he caused harm to those people due to negligence should be assessed in tort but that's not what we are arguing here. Those people are the ones who will have to sue him but even at that that man won't be held liable because that decisive action that lead to the fight which may cause bystanders harm was made by the woman so the woman would be the one they should sue not the man. The latter is non of your business because as you can see from evidence no bystander was attacked. If you see a fight and you stand there like an ediot instead of moving yourself from harm's way then you were also negligent. but as I have written our business is the assault(criminal) in this case. 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 7:26pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
coogar: I thought you knew everything about me na. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Dheartless: 7:33pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets:tell me something "master in law", if a girl was in a train and was about to be raped by 4 men and then she tries to defend herself with a weapon (say a golf stick ),she missed one of the rapist and hit a fellow lady who was in the train. when this case get to the court will she be charged for public disturbance and violent on an innocent person? I just want to know. 1 Like |
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