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Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 3:38pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 3:48pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane:if I slap you and you slap me back, you can get away with self-defence but when it turns out into a mini WWE smackdown it becomes public violence. I believe there are other innocent passengers who were hurt and affected during the fight, don't only look at those that were part of the fight. That's why I said its not a wise idea to sue anyone, we will be sinking his own ship if he does that. Not only was there contributory fault of his part, his actions also constitute a criminal offence |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by wonlasewonimi: 3:53pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: How can you have gender equality when one gender cannot piss into a bottle without spillage. 2 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 3:59pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: no, this isn't about al-qaeda.... this is about the pioneers of feminism. erin prizzey started the first shelter in the whole of europe for abused women. her sin? making a statement that women abuse men as much as men abuse women. feminists turned against her.. they made bomb threats, threats to kill her family. when they couldn't get to her, her dog was killed. today, the shelter she founded denies her entry. her name was even removed from their history book. she had to go on exile when the bomb squad advised her that all her mails should directed to their headquarters. feminism & violence go hand in hand..... 2 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by BABE3: 4:00pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: The public violence wasn't the man's fault. He got hit with shoes by Shequina. He retaliated with a slap and rightly so. He then paused. He didn't go beyond that. That was when captain-save-a-hóe( Shequina's friend in black jacket) jumped in to "defend" shequina. Not only that, Shequina's females friends also jumped in to defend her. At this point, the man had to defend himself, so he decided to handle his match (captain-save-a-hóe). So, how is any of this the man's fault and why should he get in any trouble with the law? You should probably watch the video again. The man got jumped by 4 people! 2 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:06pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
BABE3:if you can prove that innocent passengers were not hurt or affected while he was "defending" himself then only then can you say that he wasn't at fault. It became public violence when his actions took place in a public space and adversely effected other members of the public (other passengers) who had nothing to do with attack. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 4:12pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: innocent passengers getting hurt in the melee was the girl's fault. she started being physical with him. her verbal abuse went on for more than 2 minutes & the dude didn't even flinch. he was walking away from the situation when he got hit by the girl. he retaliated in self defence. america has a stand your ground policy - the number of people that got hurt or affected is irrelevant. the dude stood his ground! 3 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by BABE3: 4:15pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: First you said he'll get in trouble for the way he retaliated; the slap was too hard. now you're saying it was a public space. Anything to sha get the man in trouble because he's a man? I tire for you feminists o. So if 4 people are jumping me in a public space, I shouldn't defend myself because it's public? How is it my fault that they jumped me in public? If it was a girl that was getting jumped by 4 people, and she defended herself, the last thing you'll think about is "public space". Btw, no one in the public space was hurt. 3 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 4:18pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
BABE3: he won't get into any inch of trouble. the law is clear on what to do in such cases in america. In the United States, stand-your-ground law states that an individual has no duty to retreat from any place they have lawful right to be and may use any level of force, including lethal, if they reasonably believe they face an imminent and immediate threat of serious bodily harm or death. the dude simply exercised his rights. getting whacked with skating shoes to the head could lead to concussion - serious bodily harm. the dude then used the appropriate level of force to stop his attacker. the dude should be given a medal! 5 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by zeb04(f): 4:20pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
I don't support these, the slap was crazy. 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:23pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
coogar: I never disputed that the girl is at fault too, I even said in my first post that they are BOTH AT FAULT. she started being physical with him. her verbal abuse went on for more than 2 minutes & the dude didn't even flinch. well the guy did call her a b*tch and even though he didn't insult her as much as she did, he still did verbally abuse her too by making use of that one word. it only requires you to make one statement for it to be called verbal abuse. he was walking away from the situation when he got hit by the girl. he retaliated in self defence. america has a stand your ground policy - the number of people that got hurt or affected is irrelevant. the dude stood his ground!well if the number of people affected is irrelevant phrases like 'public violence','genocide' and 'terrorism' wouldn't exist. its not public violence because he hit her back, like I said it became public violence when other people who had nothing to do with the fight were involved. That's the reason why if you engage in a fight at a nightclub, all of you will be locked up regardless of who threw the first punch. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by freecocoa(f): 4:26pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
BABE3:See analyzing, you should get an accolade . You go fear captain-save-a-hoe na . |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 4:31pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: he's not at fault! he was retreating even when he had no duty to retreat. they were on a train together. he's not breaking a law by being on that train.
the word "bïtch" is no longer an insult....
he hit her back in self defence. the state of new york permits the defender to fight back and use any level of force. he got whacked in the head & he musta felt his life was in danger. his safety was the top priority at that moment, not the other passengers.
only for people who don't know their rights. if i get punched in the club & i retaliate, the first puncher would get locked up, i would walk away easy. CCTV cameras would do its job, i don't even need to make any statement. videos like this would teach crass women a big lesson to keep their filthy hands to themselves. 4 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by BABE3: 4:33pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
coogar: Case closed! freecocoa: We have so many of them around. I'm glad he got served. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by BABE3: 4:35pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
"Bìtch" is now considered verbal abuse and could be used against you in court? |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:37pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
BABE3: Mondisweets:this is what I said and you came up with you own inference you can exactly blame me for a misinterpretation you made now you're saying it was a public space.a subway train is a form of public transport so yes it can qualify as a public space used by the public Anything to sha get the man in trouble because he's a man? I tire for you feminists o.so I am being biased by saying they are BOTH at fault? okay continue So if 4 people are jumping me in a public space, I shouldn't defend myself because it's public? How is it my fault that they jumped me in public?I don't remember saying he should defend himself. you can always defence yourself without committing another crime if you are wiser. If it was a girl that was getting jumped by 4 people, and she defended herself, the last thing you'll think about is "public space".it still would be public violence. I have already said they they both can be charged with public violence, not the guy alone. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 4:39pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: Stop bringing in irrelevant points into the case. We are speaking on what we see in the video. All the people who got hit were those who jumped on him. Those are the facts as we see them. This isn't about even getting damages/remedies but females being charged for assault. I don't know where you live but here is the statement made by a judge(Lord morris) in the UK in the case of (palmer) 1971, If there has been an attack so that defence is reasonably necessary it will be recognised that a person defending himself cannot weigh to a nicety the exact measure of his necessary defensive action. If a Jury thought that in a moment of unexpected anguish a person attacked had only done what he honestly and instinctively thought was necessary that would be most potent evidence that only reasonable defensive action had been takenAgain, He tried removing himself from the situation, The guy was not in her face or behaving in a threatening manner that required her to lash out. He did what would have been instinctively necessary in a moment like that. 1 Like |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 4:39pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
BABE3: some women even call themselves "bïtch" these days. the word has been reclaimed & it could be used as a compliment. from one housewife to another.... www.nairaland.com/attachments/1851444_1_png4a47a0db6e60853dedfcfdf08a5ca249 2 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by freecocoa(f): 4:40pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
BABE3:Seriously though, that girl's mouth should be sewn, like who behaves that way? Nah her own is just too much. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by BABE3: 4:43pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
coogar: I know right. "She's a bad bìtch" is a compliment. shoot, I was going to post that picture. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:47pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
The behavior of this girl was totally unacceptable and irritating, public nuisance. She attacked the guy and he reacted. It is all her fault. She better learns how to behave herself. I hope, next time she will know better. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by kandiikane(m): 4:49pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets: Did you study law at all? |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by coogar: 4:50pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane: she has a masters degree in law. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:52pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets:I'm curious, is this grounds for legal action against the dude if there was no physical altercation? |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:54pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
coogar:but he was breaking the law by causing public disturbance. the word "bïtch" is no longer an insult....I checked in the English dictionary and it is still defined as, " an offensive way of reffering to a woman, especially in an unpleasant way." he hit her back in self defence. the state of new york permits the defender to fight back and use any level of force. he got whacked in the head & he musta felt his life was in danger. his safety was the top priority at that moment, not the other passengers.self defence and private defence are a ground of justification in hundreds of other countries all over the world too not just the state of New York. And in all these countries and states that have self defence and private defence as a ground of justification they come with limitations too only for people who don't know their rights. if i get punched in the club & i retaliate, the first puncher would get locked up, i would walk away easy. CCTV cameras would do its job, i don't even need to make any statement. I'm sure you remember the other incident where a Cleveland bus driver sucker-punched a lady after she spit on his face. do tell me why he was charged with assault, even though he wasn't the one who started the attack? CCTV will not help you if you assault affects or hurts other people in the club who are not part of your fight, stop lying. Crimes deal with the public interests and not just individual interests. let me give you another example if I pay you to kill someone and you succeed. we will both be charged with murder (despite the fact that I wasn't the one who actually killed the person) because I had influence on the commission of the crime. that's all it takes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:56pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets:Omo this your legal interpretation na waya. 3 Likes |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by freecocoa(f): 4:56pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
People please stop the violence on mondisweets , though I don't just see how this guy can be faulted(even though himself no well ), there were like 10 girls and a guy attacking him. |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:57pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
BABE3:but the reason why he called her a b*tch wasn't to compliment her now was it? |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 4:58pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
kandiikane:I still am. what degree do you have? |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 5:00pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
freshdude2:he could have sued her for defamation of character, and he would have even better chances of claiming for compensation as well |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by freecocoa(f): 5:01pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
Mondisweets:So he should not have retaliated even after she hit him? |
Re: Man Smacks The Soul Out Of Girl On The NY Subway by Nobody: 5:03pm On Nov 11, 2014 |
freecocoa:definitely, like I said he had the right to retaliate but it had to be within reasonable and justifiable means. |
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