historyworld031:
Prove your claims.
You claim that their name is not AKOKO-EDO, then prove it.
You really have to take a look at the pre-colonial maps before saying such and such place was not part of the Benin Kingdom.
The entire Edo state was a small part of the Benin Kingdom.
The likes of you just keep confusing Benin Kingdom with its capital (Benin City).
And claiming that the Benin empire no longer exists is nonsensical, the people of the empire are still alive, the empire is not any less existing than your ife village or the sokoto caliphate. I know that you yorubas are very busy claiming bits after bits of the Benin empire with the usual "you be yoruba, you dey come from ife".
I just keep wondering why yoruba just have this incredible vanity to think that they know us Edo better than we know ourselves.
You don't even base your "knowledge" on scientific nor histoical facts but on some yoruba story tellers tales or on your personal emotions.
Hear what the Esan princes have to say about Omo n'Oba n'Edo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqF5JhgX0g
You have to understand this, we Edo are one people with one king: Omo n'Oba n'Edo.
Can you imagine your arrogance ?
And stop this foolish "analysis" about language, we all speak english today, does that make us british ?
People learn other languages in order to interact with other peoples (trade, conquest, marrage ...)
By the way, when my Dad was in the army, he learnt haussa, are you going to claim that he is partly haussa now ?
Jamaicans speak english, does that make them british ?
The irish speak english, does that make them englishmen ?
The problem with you macof is that your intellect is very small. You don't know what in hell you are talking about, you can't reason, all you can do is parrot others.

historyworld031:
Prove your claims.
You claim that their name is not AKOKO-EDO, then prove it.
You really have to take a look at the pre-colonial maps before saying such and such place was not part of the Benin Kingdom.
The entire Edo state was a small part of the Benin Kingdom.
The likes of you just keep confusing Benin Kingdom with its capital (Benin City).
And claiming that the Benin empire no longer exists is nonsensical, the people of the empire are still alive, the empire is not any less existing than your ife village or the sokoto caliphate. I know that you yorubas are very busy claiming bits after bits of the Benin empire with the usual "you be yoruba, you dey come from ife".
I just keep wondering why yoruba just have this incredible vanity to think that they know us Edo better than we know ourselves.
You don't even base your "knowledge" on scientific nor histoical facts but on some yoruba story tellers tales or on your personal emotions.
Hear what the Esan princes have to say about Omo n'Oba n'Edo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MqF5JhgX0g
You have to understand this, we Edo are one people with one king: Omo n'Oba n'Edo.
Can you imagine your arrogance ?
I actually wonder if you do know that the expression "Oba of Benin" is actually not the real title of the Oba, his real title is "Omo n'Oba n'Edo". One fact which I doubt you ever knew. Also I doubt that you actually knew that the name of the people of the Benin Kingdom is Edo.
And stop this foolish "analysis" about language, we all speak english today, does that make us british ?
People learn other languages in order to interact with other peoples (trade, conquest, marrage ...)
By the way, when my Dad was in the army, he learnt haussa, are you going to claim that he is partly haussa now ?
Jamaicans speak english, does that make them british ?
The irish speak english, does that make them englishmen ?
The problem with you macof is that your intellect is very small. You don't know what in hell you are talking about, you can't reason, all you can do is parrot others.

macof:


You are a dunce. I've said leave my mentions, your level of intelligence is too low for me to engage in yet another back and forth on another thread.

I'll jst leave you with this;

Benin kingdom is just Bini people, even Esan are not Part of Bini kingdom. Bini kingdom ends at Ovia LGA, all in all, Bini kingdom comprises parts of 6 LGAs in Edo state
Learn the difference between Kingdom and Empire

But of course you can keep your delusions rather than to face your so called French medical education

Deadlytruth:


Please stop saying what you don't know. If at all your assumption that Bini kingdom was limited to the present Edo South LGAs were to be regarded as the truth, then it would have also failed because there are actually 7 LGAs in Edo South and not 6 as you would want your readers to believe. They are
1. Oredo
2. Orhiomwon
3. Uselu
4. Ikpoba-Okah
5. Ovia NE
6. Ovia SW
7. Uhumwode.

Please your knowledge about Edo people is not detailed hence your false assumptions regarding the Kingdom and its people.

Deadlytruth:


Please stop saying what you don't know. If at all your assumption that Bini kingdom was limited to the present Edo South LGAs were to be regarded as the truth, then it would have also failed because there are actually 7 LGAs in Edo South and not 6 as you would want your readers to believe. They are
1. Oredo
2. Orhiomwon
3. Uselu
4. Ikpoba-Okah
5. Ovia NE
6. Ovia SW
7. Uhumwode.

Please your knowledge about Edo people is not detailed hence your false assumptions regarding the Kingdom and its people.

macof:



If you don't know the difference between Kingdom and Empire that's not my problem really

And I purposely stated 6 because parts of Orhiomwon belongs to Ika - Igbos

Rather than charge out on "ethnic defence mission" you should have stated what you think Bini kingdom comprises and prove how I'm wrong.

Deadlytruth:

Thank you for taking your time to school him.

He resides far away in Ife and from there he is saying who belongs to Edo and who doesn't

, yet when Binis claim his Ife was first ruled by Ozoduwa a Benin prince he gets annoyed

. How can an Ife man claim he knows Akoko-Edo more than the people themselves? There is no part of Akoko-Edo that Yorubas are indigenous to. 95℅ of the towns and villages are made up of Benin Migrants whose languages have over time diverged from one another due to differences in times of exodus from the Benin Kingdom. The remaining 5℅ are the Oshuku descendants there whose migrational origin is suspected to be entirely outside Nigeria.


The Akoko root in the name Akoko-Edo was purely for administrative identity and does not in any way connote any cultural or linguistic relationship with Yorubas. .

macof:


You are a dunce. I've said leave my mentions, your level of intelligence is too low for me to engage in yet another back and forth on another thread.

I'll jst leave you with this;

Benin kingdom is just Bini people, even Esan are not Part of Bini kingdom. Bini kingdom ends at Ovia LGA, all in all, Bini kingdom comprises parts of 6 LGAs in Edo state
Learn the difference between Kingdom and Empire

But of course you can keep your delusions rather than to face your so called French medical education

9jakool:


Even suggesting all of Ovia is too generous. There are Yoruba dialects like Ikale and Usen spoken in parts of Ovia NE and Ovia SW.

macof:


I didn't even know this

I wonder why there aren't any reasonable Edo on this forum

historyworld031:
"you dey come from ife, you be yoruba, your oba be oduduwa son".
yoruba will always be backward, always trying to claim an other man's heritage.
I bet you that soon these natural 419ers will be talking about the bight of oyo or the bight of yoruba.
the village head of ife known as ooni of ife is already calling himself "his emperial majesty".
The funny thing is that the Edo don't give a hoot about yoruba, we even fill much more connections with igbo and kogi people, but yoruba just can't get enough of talking about s Edos.
Everyday a yoruba must claim something Edo.
They have claimed the title of our King "Oba".
They tried to lay claim to the Benin bronzes.
They tried to lay claim to Benin City.
They tried to lay claim to Edo-north.
They tried to lay claim to AKOKO-EDO people and their land.
They tried to lay claim to our King.
What kind of inferiority complex do these yoruba have ?
When my wife gives birth, I wouldn't be surprised if some yoruba come and claim my baby as his own, that is their tradition of claiming everything which belongs to Edo.
I am Edo. One people (Edo), one Kingdom (Benin Kingdom) and one king: Omo n'Oba n'Edo.

OlaoChi:


Why are you being a nuisance? Edo people are supposed to be better than this

historyworld031:
"you dey come from ife, you be yoruba, your oba be oduduwa son".
yoruba will always be backward, always trying to claim an other man's heritage.
I bet you that soon these natural 419ers will be talking about the bight of oyo or the bight of yoruba.
the village head of ife known as ooni of ife is already calling himself "his emperial majesty".
The funny thing is that the Edo don't give a hoot about yoruba, we even feel much more connections with igbo and kogi people, but yoruba just can't get enough of talking about s Edos.
Everyday a yoruba must claim something Edo.
They have claimed the title of our King "Oba".
They tried to lay claim to the Benin bronzes.
They tried to lay claim to Benin City.
They tried to lay claim to Edo-north.
They tried to lay claim to AKOKO-EDO people and their land.
They tried to lay claim to our King.
What kind of inferiority complex do these yoruba have ?
When my wife gives birth, I wouldn't be surprised if some yoruba come and claim my baby as his own, that is their tradition of claiming everything which belongs to Edo.
I am Edo. One people (Edo), one Kingdom (Benin Kingdom) and one king: Omo n'Oba n'Edo.

AxxeMan:
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Keep Shut!! Are you blind to the myopic Yoruba's here

OlaoChi:
I followed the thread and have actually learnt some things from the Yorubas on here, you and the other guy on the other hand just attack and hate without actually contributing anything

AxxeMan:
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You Learnt nothing but lies now move along kid

OlaoChi:
Do you have the intellectual standing and expertise to prove them lies? or you just say so because you do not like it

AxxeMan:


I do not debate with myopic and confused ppl and defineately not debate my rich cultural heritage with Ibadan printing press products ..... Move along kid!!

OlaoChi:
ok so let those that have something to teach teach

AxxeMan:





Who gives a fvvck? Let those that like eating dirty lies keep swallowing it!!

OlaoChi:
what is the lie you are referring to exactly? much information has been passed so what exactly is your problem?

historyworld031:
you are asking a question of which the answer is already on this same thread.
your learning process is erronous, you believe things out of feelings rather than asking for proof.
I provided pre-colonial maps showing Benin Kingdom. That is proof. Your yoruba 419 only have claims which they never care to prove.
I really wonder what is going on with nigerian educational system. You lack the ability to function in the 21st century.
Don't believe tales without proof, and don't believe such tales when there is proof showing them to be wrong.
These yoruba guys know nothing about Edo, yet you think they should teach you about Edo. While you want to dismiss people who are actually Edo eventhough the Edo come with proof ?
There is something wrong in that head of yours.

OlaoChi:
OMG! Now you are the one talking with feelings. This thread is about Ibillo and Akoko not Benin Kingdom. I can't really get what the problem you and the other guy are nagging on about because it isn't just Yorubas posting here, many posters have contributed to the thread by describing the complex demographics of the subject area and citing particular communities intricately but you've been trolling the thread and derailing it off it's track with insults and accusations of lies not proof. What exactly is your point and what are the lies? can you highlight them?

OlaoChi:
OMG! Now you are the one talking with feelings. This thread is about Ibillo and Akoko not Benin Kingdom. I can't really get what the problem you and the other guy are nagging on about because it isn't just Yorubas posting here, many posters have contributed to the thread by describing the complex demographics of the subject area and citing particular communities intricately but you've been trolling the thread and derailing it off it's track with insults and accusations of lies not proof. What exactly is your point and what are the lies? can you highlight them? Which towns in Akoko are Edo and can you give a detailed short account of their History

historyworld031:
You still don't get it eventhough I have said this many times on this same thread.
Edo state is a small part of the Benin Kingdom.
Therefor how can you claim to be talking about Edo state and not about the Benin Kingdom.
I guess you are one of those people who don't understand that Benin City is not equal to Benin Kingdom. (I already said that).
Benin City is the capital of the kingdom !
Next time read and try to educate yourself before unintentionnally playing the part of the ignorant black man who knows nothing but believes he can teach everything.

OlaoChi:
Benin Empire you mean? and then Edo state is already more than half of the former Empire but after Invasion 1897 the empire lost its power and the Kingdom was restricted to its originally environs where the people speak Edo

The people you say are lying are giving details form town to town of an area that is known to be complex you are simply making a barging statement that frankly doesn't do justice to the Akoko area. What will you say about Akoko in Kogi state and Ondo state. What about Etsako and others who are not Edo speaking areas but have their own language?