scholes0:


This guy can evade truth ehhn! Lol

The ruler of Ibillo is also called the Onibillo is that also convergence?
Abi Ibilll isn’t in Akoko Edo again?

Lmaoo

Deadlytruth:


You see, your problem is that you are not open minded to learn about details and nuances of issues. The Ibillo people have for long come to the conclusion that the "Oni" tag in the "Onibillo" title has no meaning in their own Okpameri Language and therefore is a source of identity crisis for them just like the Akoko tag is for the entire Akoko-Edo. Consequently they were just about to start sitting over changing it to a truly Okpameri title when the present King John Sule and the Son of the immediate past king began to have issues about the seat and took each other to court.
The Head of the Ibillo Unity Forum - Mr. H.T. Damisa will be convening a meeting on the 30th of this December, i.e. day after tomorrow for the different Ibillo clans to resume talks on the casting off of the "Oni" tag and replacing it with possibly the actual Okpameri word for king. If you doubt this you can make a trip to Ibillo on that 30th i.e. this Saturday and I will make sure you are allowed into the meeting to see and hear things for yourself. If you are really interested you can inbox me so that I tell you how you can locate me when you arrive Ibillo. However much you think you know a people, when a native however speaks you listen and learn as you can never know him more than himself.

scholes0:


How about ayanran the king is also known as Alayanran of Ayanran.
The issue here is that you lied that Ososo and Okpe were the only towns that had the -Oni and -Olo prefix for their rulers in the whole of Akoko Edo.
If I didn’t know better I wouldn’t have been able to cite you this Ibillo example (of which you are now talking something else)

Mind you, the Oba of Lampese is also called the Onilampese (Oba J.B Balogun). Want more examples?

You also categorically said those honorific terms had nothing to do with Yorubas but you are now saying that some Okpameris of Ibillo want it removed because it had Yoruba Origin. Confused much?

You even mentioned earlier that Akoko Edo has now been ridden of all Yoruba influences wbich is another OBVIOUS LIE from you. Since I still HEARD a Yoruba language commercial from OSOSO, YESTERDAY.
It is very obvious what you are trying to do- aspiring to be some kind of anti Yoruba ethnic purist or something- Yet you accuse Yorubas of being intolerant of other languages- lol.

It is equally funnier that you seem not to have any problems with the kingship title OTARU which is used in places like Igarra, Auchi etc and emmanates from the NUPES- but take some kind of aversion to the one of Yoruba origin. You got issues bro.

These are members from the Akoko Edo traditional council of Obas, and that sure don’t look like Bini kingdom to me.

Go and fight with reality and stop wasting your time here on nairaland.

macof:


the hatred Bini people have for yorubas on this forum still amazes me. Thankfully it is not a true reflection of what happens in real life. The guy has no problem with the Nupe and Egbira influences but see how he lies shamelessly with every new post inconsistent with the last to deny Yoruba influence in the Akoko-edo area

nengibo:

Don't mind the landgrabbers, they can not point to their ancestral home or any town bearing their name but say its their land because of state creation, Edo state is now Bini state, urhobo people are settlers, Ika people are settlers, Igala people are settlers even God is a settler in heaven

macof:


the hatred Bini people have for yorubas on this forum still amazes me. Thankfully it is not a true reflection of what happens in real life. The guy has no problem with the Nupe and Egbira influences but see how he lies shamelessly with every new post inconsistent with the last to deny Yoruba influence in the Akoko-edo area

Bibi294:
I think Edo people hate Yoruba's generally eben when most of them can understand and speak Yoruba fluently... I've seen different cases when I served there....


We're one NIGERIA...
Why is the hating too much?

AxxeMan:


Tell us the part of Edo you served! Liar, No Edo man who hasn't stayed in Yoruba land before understand or speak Yoruba as it is a foreign and strange language .... Stop spewing cheap lies !!

Even your own local language you speak in ekiti a typical Yoruba from Osun or Oyo does not understand and your language has been called gibberish numerous times by the Yoruba's I schooled with.

You don't even know your history , ooh you think you are really Yoruba?... Or believe you will ever be fully accepted by Osun and Oyo ppl?

Reality would dawn on you soon!!

9jakool:

It's one thing to rebut his claim, but the bolded I cannot stand. Yoruba has become an inclusive term for over the past centuries for all people with origins to Ife. You think you know the origin of how the common Yoruba language came to be, but you don't. You must think Oyo is the only dialect spoken in Oyo and Osun.

AxxeMan:


Ohh pls stop with the Ife origin bullshit it is getting stake and old , its on record that not all Yoruba's by into this dry fairytale .

Don't you even feel same , that your alleged source abi were u waka from Is the among the most if not the worst underdeveloped LG in Nigeria

9jakool:


You are entitled to your opinion. The people who call themselves Yoruba today claim origins from Ile-Ife irregardless of your opinion.

Why should I feel shame?

AxxeMan:


Not all Yoruba buy into that ife dry fairytale and more and more are getting wiser everyday

scholes0:


There is some type of Benin-Yoruba diglossia going on , I am still teying to wrap my head around it.
Reason being that my experience with Benins in real life seem to be completely contradictory to what I see online/ even though I also know that people online are also real life entities.
In real life many benins have Yoruba middle names (I tell them it’s nice and they just smile), acculturate smoothly in the SW and have no problem with their Yoruba neighbors.

Is it that they pretend in real life and become other things online, or the group of ones online are just a tiny cancerous ( virulent strain) of Benin people bent on spreading their bile everywhere?
On this NL a group of Benin people has taken it as a profession to be on any such threads to spew their garbage of hate all over the forum floor.
They are few but they are very persistent- signs of a group on a mission.

AxxeMan:


Tell us the part of Edo you served! Liar, No Edo man who hasn't stayed in Yoruba land before understand or speak Yoruba as it is a foreign and strange language .... Stop spewing cheap lies !!

Even your own local language you speak in ekiti a typical Yoruba from Osun or Oyo does not understand and your language has been called gibberish numerous times by the Yoruba's I schooled with.

You don't even know your history , ooh you think you are really Yoruba?... Or believe you will ever be fully accepted by Osun and Oyo ppl?

Reality would dawn on you soon!!

AxxeMan:


Tell us the part of Edo you served! Liar, No Edo man who hasn't stayed in Yoruba land before understand or speak Yoruba as it is a foreign and strange language .... Stop spewing cheap lies !!

Even your own local language you speak in ekiti a typical Yoruba from Osun or Oyo does not understand and your language has been called gibberish numerous times by the Yoruba's I schooled with.

You don't even know your history , ooh you think you are really Yoruba?... Or believe you will ever be fully accepted by Osun and Oyo ppl?

Reality would dawn on you soon!!

Olu317:
And you think BINI is an EDO word? OMG. ;DAnd you think BINI is an EDO word? OMG.

AxxeMan:


WtF is Bini? Hahaha it is [b]Benin! And it is of Portuguese origin and our history is well documented unlike some people who cliam they came from a piece of plot in ife with no historical evidence to back it up apart from stories from the moonlight concocted at Ibadan printing press

And you think Yoruba is a Yoruba word ?

Hahahaha You people have no ethnic history or relevance until awolowo came into politics![/b]

9jakool:


It's fine as long as they identify as Yoruba. Yoruba is still Yoruba regardless of where they originate from whether it's Ile-Ife or not.

scholes0:


How about ayanran the king is also known as Alayanran of Ayanran.
The issue here is that you lied that Ososo and Okpe were the only towns that had the -Oni and -Olo prefix for their rulers in the whole of Akoko Edo.
If I didn’t know better I wouldn’t have been able to cite you this Ibillo example (of which you are now talking something else)

Mind you, the Oba of Lampese is also called the Onilampese (Oba J.B Balogun). Want more examples?

You also categorically said those honorific terms had nothing to do with Yorubas but you are now saying that some Okpameris of Ibillo want it removed because it had Yoruba Origin. Confused much?

You even mentioned earlier that Akoko Edo has now been ridden of all Yoruba influences wbich is another OBVIOUS LIE from you. Since I still HEARD a Yoruba language commercial from OSOSO, YESTERDAY.

Then the funniest one about Akoko Edo not having Yotuba names anymore when newborn children are still sporting those beautiful names in Imoga, Somorika, Ugboshi E.tc. Face reality, Mr.
To the average Akoko Edo man, a Yoruba names has much more meaning and sentimental attachment than Benin names which they don’t even have knowledge of their meanings. Although I won’t deny the fact that some of them are taking some actions to look “politically correct” in their Edo state environment.

It is very obvious what you are trying to do- aspiring to be some kind of anti Yoruba ethnic purist or something- Yet you accuse Yorubas of being intolerant of other languages- lol.

It is equally funnier that you seem not to have any problems with the kingship title OTARU which is used in places like Igarra, Auchi etc and emmanates from the NUPES- but take some kind of aversion to the one of Yoruba origin. You got issues bro.

These are members from the Akoko Edo traditional council of Obas, and that sure don’t look like Bini kingdom to me.

Go and fight with reality and stop wasting your time here on nairaland.

macof:


the hatred Bini people have for yorubas on this forum still amazes me. Thankfully it is not a true reflection of what happens in real life. The guy has no problem with the Nupe and Egbira influences but see how he lies shamelessly with every new post inconsistent with the last to deny Yoruba influence in the Akoko-edo area

Deadlytruth:


Mr. Man, the claim you started with was not Yoruba influence in Akoko-Edo but that there are Akoko-Edo towns founded by Yorubas. This was what led to the contention. So limiting your claim to Yoruba influence now is just influence now is an afterthought inspired by the stubborn facts which you have been given here proving wrong the Yoruba founding claim.
You again insisted that the Yoruba influence is getting more pronounced but with superior facts laid bare not even your brothers could deny any longer that the influence is actually waining due to current attempt at political relevance (if that is how it appears to him)
Be honest for once.

However I am shocked to discover on this thread that Yorubas are not actually different from some Igbos to whom whoever takes a stand against certain Igbo attitudes must be an Afonja irrespective of how obvious it is that he is actually not.
That you now believe that it takes only a Bini person to resent Yoruba inclusion into Edo State is at best funny, unintellectual and disingenuous. I used to think Yorubas rely only on intellectual submissions in debates but I have known better from the resort to anti-Bini innuendos I am seeing here in the face of being kissed with hard truths.
I am an Akoko-Edo person not Bini. No Bini person can actually be so accurately detailed in his knowledge about Akoko-Edo as Binis hardly come to settle down in Akoko-Edo permanently. They only visit, spend some time and return to Benin.

However, the reason why Binis and indeed all Edos don't demonstrate hatred to Yorubas in real life unlike they do in this forum is simply that neither Yorubas themselves harass Edos with claims of founding Edo towns in real life as they do on this forum.
The Yorubas resident in Benin and indeed every part of Edo are very mindful of their own business as they soon, from first hand experience, realize that they are actually not in Yorubaland. So it is all about GIGO.

macof:
i did not read any of this

I already told you. Everything I stated on this thread is established fact, if you do not like it, go and toss the 'akoko' name away and organize a media broadcast of akoko edo elders to denounce the popular perception

I am not wasting my time again with an intellectually deficient Bini man

AxxeMan:


WtF is Bini? Hahaha it is Benin! And it is of Portuguese origin and our history is well documented unlike some people who cliam they came from a piece of plot in ife with no historical evidence to back it up apart from stories from the moonlight concocted at Ibadan printing press

And you think Yoruba is a Yoruba word ?

Hahahaha You people have no ethnic history or relevance until awolowo came into politics!

Deadlytruth:


I will keep punishing the intellectually empty Afonjas who believe that it takes only a Bini man to resist Yoruba neo-imperialism. You have been boxed away with unassailable facts. Next time don't speak authoritatively about others and then resort to crying "Bini" when you are disgraced with facts the way Igbos cry "Afonja" for any SS person that punctures their narratives.

God will deliver us the minorities from WAZOBIA. But we have to play our part which we are doing now.

macof:


You have given NO facts...sorry.

Yoruba language and culture remain in Akoko-edo! Let it pain you, not my business

Olu317:
So Bini is a Portuguese word? So you don't know Bini was a corruption of ILÉ “UBINU" / “IBINU". It's a pity seeing this form of distortion beyond imagination. So, Eweka was a Bini name too or Portuguese's? Owo-mi-ka or its contraction known as Owoká turned to Eweka. Oranmiyan gave his first child this name.So, where did you get your info? No wonder, those names are sacred in Edo cum Bini people's memory. Perhaps you have your own Edo version..... Post it and let us all laugh over it because you seem accurately good with revisionism.