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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by netmillionaires(m): 10:34pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
ArodewilliamsT:O ma se o. 4 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by twosquare(m): 10:56pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
ArodewilliamsT:a primary two pupil won't yarn this gibberish you've put up here...SMH...the earlier you do pure research, the better...SirShymexx, I do wonder...it is only on NL you see guys talking based on sentiments and dem say+ fabricated lies. Making claims, pple just make claims they can't reference or back up with materials. Go to UK or the States, pple don't just make claims there, they do research before coming up with their findings 3 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by SirShymexx: 11:57pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda: This is the first time I'm hearing this. I know Ijebus never had an imperial army like Oyo cos there was no need to. But they had a most around the Kingdom and enough forces to protect the kingdom and the trade links via coast in Epe. And that subsequently extended all the way to Ibeju Lekki and Ikorodu. Heck, I believe either Ibeju Lekki or Ikorodu (can't remember which one) was given to some explorers for trade in like the 16th century or so, by the Awujale. I know Oyo had a lot of Hausa, Bariba, Nupe, and Fulani slaves who were part of its cavalry forces. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by SirShymexx: 12:01am On Apr 14, 2015 |
9jacrip: Trust me, brev. Hopefully, this generation of Yorubas will embrace archaeology. We still have a lot to research and I believe the link is hburied somewhere beneath the earth surface in Ife. That is the problem with African history in general - we don't have enough folks in the right fields. 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by yuio33: 12:12am On Apr 14, 2015 |
You young people are illiterate. 60 years ago thé title of ovie of ughelli was. Oba of ughelli. not ovie of ughelli. all of them started changing their in uhrobo to ovie. the correct title is oba of ughelli. Oba o ogbara |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 12:20am On Apr 14, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Ijebus held their own not the Egbas, infact, some of the battles were Ibadan warriors defending ijebu towns against Egba/Ijebu warriors. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by tonychristopher: 12:26am On Apr 14, 2015 |
twosquare: at the end u didn't refute his claims ..u just ranted yoruba was coined by derogatory word by hausa ....Yoruba! prove the submission wrong 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by superior1: 1:24am On Apr 14, 2015 |
tonychristopher: Why don't you prove the nonsense you wrote?, oh let me see, because the name Oluyoruba doesn't exist, right?, you need your head examined. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 1:29am On Apr 14, 2015 |
hercules07: You are not different from Ibo's that call Lagos no mans land. Modakekes were Oyo refugees in Ife. They migrated to Ife after the fall of oyo. Alot of town rejected them but ife had no choice than to welcome them since they were children of oduduwa. The treaty was later disregarded after the British realized the other obas kept mentioning another great king in the Yoruba hinterland. 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 1:34am On Apr 14, 2015 |
Nice thread. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 1:45am On Apr 14, 2015 |
manck2: Aare Musiwa....lol 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 1:48am On Apr 14, 2015 |
9jacrip:Ife is sitting on treasures and so many hidden Yoruba history. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by twosquare(m): 3:27am On Apr 14, 2015 |
tonychristopher:consult Samuel Johnson's History of the Yorubas for a start...and stop bitching about everything concerning other tribes....savvy |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by kobonaire(m): 4:56am On Apr 14, 2015 |
Billyonaire: baby124:Ok I know you guys are engaging in fast and furious e-warfare on NL but can you not mention my name .. I keep getting the mention alerts !!! @baby124 Please chill ... Billy is actually a cool dude despite his obnoxious persona on NL |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 5:56am On Apr 14, 2015 |
saxywale: Yeah right, treaty was disregarded my behind. Modakekes were Oyo refugees but the Ooni that gave them refuge died and the one that took over became wicked and chose to drive them out, well, he got his behind handed to him. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by femi4: 6:05am On Apr 14, 2015 |
ArodewilliamsT:Absolute total rubbish 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by femi4: 6:12am On Apr 14, 2015 |
lastpage:Thank you ....he got me confuse sef |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by sickko(m): 7:19am On Apr 14, 2015 |
Kabiyesi oooooooo, Those are the real monarch then unlike this ones of now are days who does not know what tradition says before the became king. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by DollyParton1(f): 7:46am On Apr 14, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Yea we are warriors!!! So don't cross me Amma whoop ur Ijebu arse Egbas were smart enough to accept anyone that comes to them for refuge. They increased their army and gathered varieties of ideas. And ultimately the great Olumo rock served as a very good hiding place. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 8:18am On Apr 14, 2015 |
saxywale: True. In addition to your post, the first wave of Modakeke settlers were Owu people whose town was destroyed and never to be rebuilt and followed by Oyo immigrants. They sought to settle at Ipetumodu but Ifa stated they would become landlords and make their hosts tenants, the Ompetu told them to vacate but consulted with the Ooni of that period; Ifa said the same but because every Yoruba town has a right to Ife, there was no other choice than to have them settle. When the brits stopped the Yoruba internecine wars, one of the conditions laid down was the evacuation of Modakeke from Ife. They opted to move to Ilesa to be given land in any part of Ijesa land, the Ilesa refused completely and reminded them of how they have become landlords on another person's lands. Then in droves they went to found towns such as ode omu, occupied gbongan etc all of them now corporate to attack Ife whenever war or skirmishes breaks out. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Ilaje44(m): 8:20am On Apr 14, 2015 |
seunfly: Esun and Satan are two different things. If you know your traditions very well, Esu can never equate to Satan. While Satan is a diabolical figure, an ursurper, the worst thing you can attribute to Esu is deceit. Esu was never a completely diabolical figure as he's been/being depicted by the new religions. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by tonychristopher: 8:39am On Apr 14, 2015 |
twosquare: you said what he said is not right, why dont you refute him with facts instead of beating around the bush, what if i tell u i am too busy to consult one Johnson as u can see you do not have facts |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 8:59am On Apr 14, 2015 |
hercules07: Wicked? No. Looking out for the interest of hos people? Yes. Did Ife have an army? No. Did Modakeke have an army? The larger population of the migrabts were warriors in old Oyo. Were the Modakeke forced to leave at a point? Yes. An Ooni (I think Abewela) whose Mother was Oyo invited them to co-habit, an idea the Ife rejected. He was killed and his family line to the throne was banned from becoming Ooni ever again. The conflict that erupted between 1997/8 to 2000/1 was fought to Ife's victory. Map was redrawn; many Ife lands were taken back and many farm lands used by Modakeke are now back with their original owners - all these and more make Modakeke sore right now and are itching for another face off. . Despite your Oyo, Ode Omu, Gbongan and Oyo/Modakeke settlers in Ikire, Apomu and Ikoyi. Ife still recorded victory, the tide has changed, many Ife people are now involved and undeniable support from Ijesa . Tell your Alaafin to send his team again, we full ground. 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 9:03am On Apr 14, 2015 |
saxywale: True that. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by macof(m): 9:05am On Apr 14, 2015 |
Mynd44:Surely there are over 12 first class obas..they used to be 16 but some like Olowu, onipopo and onisabe have dropped |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 9:13am On Apr 14, 2015 |
macof: How did they drop? I'm curious. Maybe Olowu because of the original Owu town getting sacked but upon migration to Owu Ipole, they took their crown with which is still in use. The crown which was originally given by Oduduwa himself to Olowu and with Olowu being the son of the first child of Oduduwa makes Olowu office a first class. The egbon of every other king. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by macof(m): 9:19am On Apr 14, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Even in all Aworiland there are Obas that should be above Oba of Lagos...when did Oba Ado settle in Eko that his descendants should be taken above the landowners? an Oba like Olotto, the sit of the founder of the Aworis is bigger than Oba of Lagos 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 9:21am On Apr 14, 2015 |
macof: Fact! This is how it should be. I just tire for the arrangement. 3 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by macof(m): 10:13am On Apr 14, 2015 |
seunfly: Who told you Deji and Osemawe are mates? Deji is a Leopard in that region of Yorubaland...and it's not about modern development but hundreds of years history 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by macof(m): 10:25am On Apr 14, 2015 |
Hanibal: who granted the Alaafin rulership over other Obas? Ijebu wasn't under Oyo and nt all of Ekiti was either...I don't know about Ijesa Anyway Oyo is no longer an empire, all Obas to their jurisdiction Even if u learn about Oranmiyan it's clear he was young and being pushed around a lot by his brothers...how can he be above Ajagunla Orangun who helped him fight off the Baribas? Or Ooni who sent him to Bini? Or Awujale who didn't seem to mind other Yorubas imperial agendas 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Hanibal(m): 10:43am On Apr 14, 2015 |
macof:when Oyo was an empire, all of yoruba land was under the Alaafin. including the Ijebus although they were rebels.... It was the rebellion of the Ekitis and Ijeshas that led to the famous Kiriji war. As for Oranmiyan... he ruled in Oyo Ajaka... not in the present day Oyo ile. Oranmiyan was long dead before Oyo became an empire. Okay... maybe U will agree with me if I said Alaafin "was once" the paramount ruler of yoruba land. cant go into the historical detail of the Ibaribas... too lazy to type sorry. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by macof(m): 11:00am On Apr 14, 2015 |
saxywale:Honestly the Osun state government should do something about this Ile-Ife has so much hidden history in arts and possible fossils waiting to be excavated |
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