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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by superstar1(m): 2:31pm On May 18, 2015
SonOfEl:


gowon was a nationalist who had blood of millions of women and children in his hands. Not until recently, boro was celebrated esp by the ijaws, ask other tribes, they will raise an eyebrow.
Every dick and harry knows boro was snuffed by the northerners. Shikena.

He is a nationalist that prevented the compromise of national integrity and sovereignty of the Nigerian State, at whatever cost. That is patriotism.

The same way Ironsi demonstrated same to crush Adaka Boro's dream of Republic of Niger Delta.

When you are talking, talk with facts and figures. Shows us evidence that authenticates your claim of northerners killing Adaka Boro.

If you are basing your claim on your tales by moonlight story, then my version of the tales by moonlight story says Igbos killed him, for fighting on the side of Nigeria. How about that?

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by SonOfEl(m): 2:44pm On May 18, 2015
superstar1:


He is a nationalist that prevented the compromise of national integrity and sovereignty of the Nigerian State, at whatever cost. That is patriotism.

The same way Ironsi demonstrated same to crush Adaka Boro's dream of Republic of Niger Delta.

When you are talking, talk with facts and figures. Shows us evidence that authenticates your claim of northerners killing Adaka Boro.

If you are basing your claim on your tales by moonlight story, then my version of the tales by moonlight story says Igbos killed him, for fighting on the side of Nigeria. How about that?

i know the game u are trying to play, it childish...but believe it or not, it was adekunle, a willing tool in the hands of northerners that killed him. Type 'Gamji+who killed boro? ' on google and help yourself.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by coldFLARES1(m): 2:47pm On May 18, 2015
Kennywills7:

Am not an ijaw however wot is happening now is affecting everyone one in d niger delta not just d Ijaws, if we do not stand for wot is right then we are putting our generations yet unborn in problem. Our lands are bn destroy as a result of d oil exploration, we should b able to enjoy d benefits of d oil through jobs creation and other means, some of d things we are suppose to benefit from are not even located in d niger delta so it makes it difficult to benefit from them, yes our leaders are not performing but we shouldn't use dat as a weapon of ignorance by relegating ourselves behind every region in nigeria, Believe it or not our resources is d only thing keeping this country together. Am a deltan Urhobo/Isoko
U are my brother, however I have some reasons to differ with you. Firstly, every business considers a number of factors before siting as well relocating, if that has to happen unfortunately. I have a bit of difficulty understanding what is right about Jonathan belatedly ordering the relocation of a private investment or those scallywags, that stumbled into civilization post-1980's, issuing threats. If we feel entitled, then a justifiable battle would be to resist the reference to the whole country as 'host community' by the HoR in its amendment to the PIB draft. Except we secede, we must learn to negotiate 'rights' from the owners of Nigeria (North), in its present configuration.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by superstar1(m): 2:48pm On May 18, 2015
SonOfEl:


i know the game u are trying to play, it childish...but believe it or not, it was adekunle, a willing tool in the hands of northerners that killed him. Type 'Gamji+who killed boro? ' on google and help yourself.

I am not playing any game, just following your line of thought that glorifies Ironsi for preventing secession and selectively demonising Gowon for preventing same.

From northerner to Adekunle? The finger pointing keeps changing.

Before there could be a killing or murder, there must be a motive.

What will be the motive of Adekunle for killing Adaka Boro?

Let the world see the strength of the motive that can warrant Adekunle killing his compatriot at arm.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by lexy2014: 2:59pm On May 18, 2015
Chiaka:


What Asari got is so little compared to what other people have taken from the region on in the name of playing 'Nigeria'
Let's agree with u that asari got "little". Question is what did he do with it in terms of positively impacting d lives of his kin? If he got little, y did he take it 2 benin republic and not invest in ND? Or do u think its N1,000 he used in building his university in cotonou? What about tompolo who has a private jet. Is it "little" u use in buying and maintaining a private jet? D president acquired a 700hectare land in abuja and he said its meant 4 farming. Y didn't he acquire such a land in bayelsa 2 help d people there? U feel outsiders have an obligation 2 develop d ND, when d indigenes don't even care. It doesn't work that way. Niger deltans must begin asking their leaders 2b accountable 2 them if not nothing

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by superstar1(m): 3:10pm On May 18, 2015
lexy2014:
Let's agree with u that asari got "little". Question is what did he do with it in terms of positively impacting d lives of his kin? If he got little, y did he take it 2 benin republic and not invest in ND? Or do u think its N1,000 he used in building his university in cotonou? What about tompolo who has a private jet. Is it "little" u use in buying and maintaining a private jet? D president acquired a 700hectare land in abuja and he said its meant 4 farming. Y didn't he acquire such a land in bayelsa 2 help d people there? U feel outsiders have an obligation 2 develop d ND, when d indigenes don't even care. It doesn't work that. Niger deltans must begin asking their leaders 2b accountable 2 them if not nothing

The parables of talents comes to mind.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by SonOfEl(m): 3:11pm On May 18, 2015
superstar1:


I am not playing any game, just following your line of thought that glorifies Ironsi for preventing secession and selectively demonising Gowon for preventing same.

From northerner to Adekunle? The finger pointing keeps changing.

Before there could be a killing or murder, there must be a motive.

What will be the motive of Adekunle for killing Adaka Boro?

Let the world see the strength of the motive that can warrant Adekunle killing his compatriot at arm.

again, childish comparisons. Boro's people were not molested, raped or killed, it was only his fellow militiamen that were attacked. Also, not all ijaws supported boro, because there would have been an open demonstration by niger-deltans if there were. Adekunle-Awo were enemies of the eastern region, so they became willing puppets in the hands of their northern masters.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by Ababadada: 3:20pm On May 18, 2015
Yoruba man
Abagworo:
Ijaw please should talk for themselves and if possible start a war with Nigeria. Ikwerre, Ogoni, Itsekiri and other people are equally Niger Deltans and we want peace.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by superstar1(m): 3:30pm On May 18, 2015
SonOfEl:


again, childish comparisons. Boro's people were not molested, raped or killed, it was only his fellow militiamen that were attacked. Also, not all ijaws supported boro, because there would have been an open demonstration by niger-deltans if there were. Adekunle-Awo were enemies of the eastern region, so they became willing puppets in the hands of their northern masters.

Another round of balderdash.

The root discussion is not killing or rap.e etc. It is secession. Adaka Boro tried to secede and Ironsi crushed it. Ironsi's people tried to secede too, Gowon crushed it. Simple.

The same way Ojukwu and Zik were enemies of the Western Region. They were willing tools in.the hands of the Balewa and Sardauna against the West and Awolowo, before their relationship went sour.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by antisocial: 3:34pm On May 18, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
abegi...all they care about is their pocket ,they are not fighting fo anybody,noisy people
they have the right to,it is their oil not yours.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by Kennywills7(m): 3:38pm On May 18, 2015
coldFLARES1:
U are my brother, however I have some reasons to differ with you. Firstly, every business considers a number of factors before siting as well relocating, if that has to happen unfortunately. I have a bit of difficulty understanding what is right about Jonathan belatedly ordering the relocation of a private investment or those scallywags, that stumbled into civilization post-1980's, issuing threats. If we feel entitled, then a justifiable battle would be to resist the reference to the whole country as 'host community' by the HoR in its amendment to the PIB draft. Except we secede, we must learn to negotiate 'rights' from the owners of Nigeria (North), in its present configuration.
Well, if u notice i avoided talking about dat project, so am not necessarily talking about dat, am actually talking about d general struggle of d Niger Delta
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by SonOfEl(m): 3:47pm On May 18, 2015
superstar1:


Another round of balderdash.

The root discussion is not killing or rap.e etc. It is secession. Adaka Boro tried to secede and Ironsi crushed it. Ironsi's people tried to secede too, Gowon crushed it. Simple.

The same way Ojukwu and Zik were enemies of the Western Region. They were willing tools in.the hands of the Balewa and Sardauna against the West and Awolowo, before their relationship went sour.

are you these shallow? Do you hear seasoned pundits comparing boro's militia to biafra? Biafra's case was genuine and urgent, because of the continuous progroms and genocidal tendencies against them. Same cannot be said about boro. Biafra came as a result of humanitarian crisis at disturbing proportions while that of boro was simply share of oil. Stop deceiving yourself.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by Chiaka(f): 3:49pm On May 18, 2015
lexy2014:
Let's agree with u that asari got "little". Question is what did he do with it in terms of positively impacting d lives of his kin? If he got little, y did he take it 2 benin republic and not invest in ND? Or do u think its N1,000 he used in building his university in cotonou? What about tompolo who has a private jet. Is it "little" u use in buying and maintaining a private jet? D president acquired a 700hectare land in abuja and he said its meant 4 farming. Y didn't he acquire such a land in bayelsa 2 help d people there? U feel outsiders have an obligation 2 develop d ND, when d indigenes don't even care. It doesn't work that. Niger deltans must begin asking their leaders 2b accountable 2 them if not nothing

why not Benin republic with the set of vindictive governance that we have. the first thing government does here is seize peoples property ones they got probs with you, except you are well aligned. I praise his openness his region has been milked for century and little goes back. Also the ones that have taken crazy what impact have they also done in their home land. So Asari is now government that develops places..............well why not ask Dangote or other Nigeria multi-millionaires to use their money to build their region or fund Nigeria.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by 2n2k(m): 3:55pm On May 18, 2015
Chiaka:


Well if the condition is not favourable they should pack and leave. Several other companies will grab the juicy opportunity

Do you understand what is being discussed here? Which other company will grab it in Nigeria at present? The alternative for now is for the thing to be done abroad.

The company cannot pack and leave. It is legally established in Lagos. The IOCs that gave it the contract knew it is economically beneficial to them and Ladol has the capacity and capability, it is not a favour. As some posters asked, why are the people shouting about this not complaining about other imported inputs in oil extraction or insist that helicopters being used should be fabricated in Ijawland.

Let ijaws set up a competing company that will win the juicy contracts then they won't have to complain about Ladol.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by Chiaka(f): 3:59pm On May 18, 2015
2n2k:


Do you understand what is being discussed here? Which other company will grab it in Nigeria at present? The alternative for now is for the thing to be done abroad.

The company cannot pack and leave. It is legally established in Lagos. The IOCs that gave it the contract knew it is economically beneficial to them and Ladol has the capacity and capability, it is not a favour. As some posters asked, why are the people shouting about this not complaining about other imported inputs in oil extraction or insist that helicopters being used should be fabricated in Ijawland.

Let ijaws set up a competing company that will win the juicy contracts then they won't have to complain about Ladol.

simple let them backout! will repeat it over and over
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by Chiaka(f): 4:02pm On May 18, 2015
simple let them backout! will repeat it over and over and there'll be several that will take it up. No need ranting!

2n2k:


Do you understand what is being discussed here? Which other company will grab it in Nigeria at present? The alternative for now is for the thing to be done abroad.

The company cannot pack and leave. It is legally established in Lagos. The IOCs that gave it the contract knew it is economically beneficial to them and Ladol has the capacity and capability, it is not a favour. As some posters asked, why are the people shouting about this not complaining about other imported inputs in oil extraction or insist that helicopters being used should be fabricated in Ijawland.

Let ijaws set up a competing company that will win the juicy contracts then they won't have to complain about Ladol.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by babyfaceafrica: 4:09pm On May 18, 2015
antisocial:
they have the right to,it is their oil not yours.
it is our oil not theirs!!!!!
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by superstar1(m): 4:25pm On May 18, 2015
SonOfEl:


are you these shallow? Do you hear seasoned pundits comparing boro's militia to biafra? Biafra's case was genuine and urgent, because of the continuous progroms and genocidal tendencies against them. Same cannot be said about boro. Biafra came as a result of humanitarian crisis at disturbing proportions while that of boro was simply share of oil. Stop deceiving yourself.

Really!!! Who is indeed the shallow one here.

Biafra's case is genuine and Boro's call for Republic of ND was not. That is being selfish.

Yours was based on humanitarian crisis (using your words), while his was based on resource control.

The bottomline is both were tending towards secession, based on what they believed was genuine to them.

The same way you are making us to realise that Adaka Boro's call for session was not genuine, is the same way we have been telling you that your call for secession was not genuine. Period.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by akandea(m): 4:27pm On May 18, 2015
Some people like given themselves more relevance than they are. Anyone wonder why there's pessimism about placing major structures in the NigerDelta. They seem to be seeing every other persons as enemies. These threats are becoming one to many!

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by SonOfEl(m): 4:40pm On May 18, 2015
superstar1:


Really!!! Who is indeed the shallow one here.

Biafra's case is genuine and Boro's call for Republic of ND was not. That is being selfish.

Yours was based on humanitarian crisis (using your words), while his was based on resource control.

The bottomline is both were tending towards secession, based on what they believed was genuine to them.

The same way you are making us to realise that Adaka Boro's call for session was not genuine, is the same way we have been telling you that your call for secession was not genuine. Period.

your arguments are blind, lame and vindinctive. You know it. If boro case was genuine in seceeding, where are the nigerdeltans who stood and protested with him? How many even took up arms with him? Achuzie was a nigerdeltan, effiong was a nigerdeltan, oil was in their backyard, am not even mentioning southeast states that have oil, so what resource control are you talking about?

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by superstar1(m): 5:19pm On May 18, 2015
SonOfEl:


your arguments are blind, lame and vindinctive. You know it. If boro case was genuine in seceeding, where are the nigerdeltans who stood and protested with him?

Really!!!!!

Have you not heard Dokubo and other ND militants always making reference to Adaka Boro, in respect to continuation of his struggle?

I am not vindictive in anyway. Just making you to realise that whatever makes the call for Biafra genuine is what makes the Republic of Niger Delta genuine, taking into cognisance an Ibo man, Aguiyi Ironsi, crushed the dream of reality of The Republic of Niger Delta.

Simple.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by coldFLARES1(m): 5:24pm On May 18, 2015
Kennywills7:

Well, if u notice i avoided talking about dat project, so am not necessarily talking about dat, am actually talking about d general struggle of d Niger Delta
Oh well! We could find some point of convergence then. For me, it's only some legislation that could engender some measure of fairness but then we are at the mercy of the north and has always been united in short-changing us, since they are a majority in the NASS. U saw how they effectively shot down the proposal to increase derivation at the Confab and how, last week, the HoR made the whole country 'Host Community'. Nonetheless, it would be wrong not to demand accountability from our elected officials as well as agencies set up for the development of our region because mismanagement by these players would never justify our agitation for a better deal. As for employment, the owners and managers are at liberty to set the requirements, even if it doesn't favour us because it is their business!

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by SonOfEl(m): 5:35pm On May 18, 2015
superstar1:


Really!!!!!

Have you not heard Dokubo and other ND militants always making reference to Adaka Boro, in respect to continuation of his struggle?

I am not vindictive in anyway. Just making you to realise that whatever makes the call for Biafra genuine is what makes the Republic of Niger Delta genuine, taking into cognisance an Ibo man, Aguiyi Ironsi, crushed the dream of reality of The Republic of Niger Delta.

Simple.

dokubo and co were babies when boro went into militancy, however, they (boro and co) still did not represent the general consensus of the nigerdelta people in eastern nigeria (efik, ogoja, ibibio, kalabari, igbo, etc). As at then, the oil allocation btw lagos and eastern nigeria then 50:50, not what we have today at 85:15 between nigeria and nddc
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by antisocial: 6:12pm On May 18, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
it is our oil not theirs!!!!!
are you from Niger Delta?
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by babyfaceafrica: 6:19pm On May 18, 2015
antisocial:
are you from Niger Delta?
does that matter?..am a nigerian..and the oil is in nigeria territory...if you are fortunate that its in u backyard...good for you..you didnt work for that oil to be in niger delta..its Gods gift to the nation!!!!

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by dokyOloye: 6:24pm On May 18, 2015
MayorofLagos:


...what an ignoramus!! Is Ondo a Niger Delta state? Is Chad basin a Niger Delta state?

Oil exploration in Chad had ceased due to risks of terrorism. If the cost/benefit scale of doing business in the Delta flattens out the explorers will abandon the rigs and take business elsewhere. They will then sanction your oil production in the market. How will you find the resource to grow your economy in the Delta? You will regress and stagnate.

Jonathan was clueless before March 28th, and he is still clueless after.
ode,Ondo,Abia and Imo state are among d Niger delta states.
What U r talking abt is region whereby Ondo is in d southwest.
Oil exploration in d Chad basin is more of a political decision than an economic one.
Hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent on it for over 10yrs wtout a single result.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by Duru1(m): 6:28pm On May 18, 2015
What a con job. The crude oil rig was fabricated in Lagos thereby creating jobs for the loudmouths in southwestern Nigeria. Yet it will be used to extract crude oil in Niger Delta. No wonder certain jackasses in Nigeria will readily develop convulsion at the slight mention of disintegration of the cesspit called Nigeria.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by antisocial: 6:33pm On May 18, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
does that matter?..am a nigerian..and the oil is in nigeria territory...if you are fortunate that its in u backyard...good for you..you didnt work for that oil to be in niger delta..its Gods gift to the nation!!!!
you are an Idi/ot,it can't be for the Nation.It is chiefly for Niger Deltans,the grandnut pyramid in the Northern Nigeria wasn't for every Nigerian then,it is only a matter of time before we divide the Nation and CONTROL our resources.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by dokyOloye: 6:46pm On May 18, 2015
juicee1:
I'll advice them to thread cautiously. Look at the amount of foreign dignitaries that have come to visit the president-elect. Do these Niger Deltans think they just came for nothing? Some of them came to protect their interest while most came to pledge allegiance to the incoming administration. If the war against militancy proves too difficult for the nigeria army, it won't be difficult for buhari to get foreign support as other nations now see nigeria as a country to befriend.

For those that are quick to ridicule the nigeria army due to boko haram and the exploits of the ND militants in the past, pls note that certain issues caused their slow progress. We all know how corrupt the army has become under GEJ. The institution that could go as far as hiding the certificate of one of its own just to scuttle his presidential campaign should be known to have been compromised, hence their losses in the hands of boko haram. The ND militant issue was accomodated too much due to the fact that people were sympathetic to their course and rose in defence of them. Now that they have the NDDC, the ND ministry and jonathan a son of theirs moving from VP to president for 6yrs, nobody is ready to listen to any whining from them again. They had a golden opportunity to turn things around, yet they scuttled it by empowering militants who in turn invested in foreign countries to the detriment of the niger delta they claim they are struggling for.

It is quite silly to think boyloaf, asari and tompolo who have been enjoying private jets and sleeping in first class suites of the best hotels in abuja will now forget about their wealth and head to the creeks where they'll be killing mosquitoes and dodging bullets.

To the niger delta youths: pls don't let the cries of the people across the niger lure you into picking up arms against the nation, cos they will not join you in any war thesame way they feel you abandoned them during theirs and stole their properties. Be wise and move on from GEJ's loss, instead of spitting fire and brimstone.
The world powers are now very cautious in supporting any side in any armed conflict, Libya,Syria etc are potent examples.
And be sure that if America and d rest of d west que up behind one side,Russia,China etc will surely be backing d other side.
Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by lyntiffany(f): 6:58pm On May 18, 2015
agrovick:

I do not know how the situation of things is over there but did it ever occur to you that the reason why the owners of the oil beg for employment is simply because they do not have the qualifications to hold high positions in those companies?
I totally disagree with you, we have good number of akwaibomites that graduated with good result under petroleum, mining, e.t.c.but because they don't have people at the echelon their are being frustrated out.
Imagine your father's company being managed by a stranger and that's the only assets left by him before his death and the profit is being given to you in crumbs simply because you don't have access to know how things are benign done.
That's the case of Niger Delta region.
They don't want to employ their youths cos that will be an eye opener to them , they will realise what they have lost all these while and what they stand to gain.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by lyntiffany(f): 7:16pm On May 18, 2015
joeboy03:


Ima ima, you are right
Etté abadié? The reason this people don't want the Niger deltans to be employed is that it will open their eyes to what they have missed, and still missing and what they stand to gain. The SW and the North are schemers.

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Re: Oil Platform Fabrication: Ijaw Youths Draw Battle Line by lexy2014: 7:32pm On May 18, 2015
Chiaka:


why not Benin republic with the set of vindictive governance that we have. the first thing government does here is seize peoples property ones they got probs with you, except you are well aligned. I praise his openness his region has been milked for century and little goes back. Also the ones that have taken crazy what impact have they also done in their home land. So Asari is now government that develops places..............well why not ask Dangote or other Nigeria multi-millionaires to use their money to build their region or fund Nigeria.
D north isn't crying despite d suffering there. When they start crhing marginalisation, then I will tell them what am telling u now. Charity begins at home. D FPSO being built in lagos is a private investment. If ijaw people can't query asari 4 taking his own private investment outside d region, then what moral authorIty do they have 2 accuse outsiders of neglect?U no a mans intentions by his actions. if d interest of asari was his people and not him, then he won't b bothered about any "vindictive govt". His focus would b on using his resources and position 2 uplift d lives of his kin who he claims are being oppressed by outsiders. Asari is not govt, neither are d oil coys asari and niger deltans always harass 4 water, electricity, roads etc. Its not d responsibility of oil coys or FG 2 develop any state or region. That is d responsibility of d states, LGs and their state and federal legislators. Its not true that little goes back 2d region. Find out how much has gone in2 d region since 1999 from 13 percent derivation, monthly allocation, allocation 2 NDDC and ministry of ND, taxes and royalties that accrues †☺ states and LGs, allocation 2 legislators and u will b amazed. U will b dazed that d real neglect of d region is from d leaders of d region not outsiders

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