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Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by einsteino(m): 6:15pm On May 24, 2015 |
lygn19: Thats because i am used to the misconception of anioma to mean delta igbo. so i didnt need a prophet to tell me you were referring to aniomas. Apart from aniomas, there is no other tribe in delta that speaks a language that is similar to igbo. So i knew you could only have been referring to us. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by atlwireles: 6:15pm On May 24, 2015 |
[s] HiGod:[/s] You made a wrong turn 5 Likes |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by omonnakoda: 6:16pm On May 24, 2015 |
lygn19:It is not for no reason that I call you an illiterate this is a descriptive term only just defining the species to which you belong so please do not take it any other way. That it does not appear in the constitution is a matter of fact which you can feel free to refute . The other emotional issues that you ejaculat,e are not relevant and you need to learn how to connect ideas in a coherent and sane way 1 Like |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Nobody: 6:16pm On May 24, 2015 |
DiademSh07:that's y we learn from it so we mk corrections and strategize more... |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Nobody: 6:18pm On May 24, 2015 |
omonnakoda:ok |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by atlwireles: 6:18pm On May 24, 2015 |
einsteino: Einsteino, please let's not make this thread another tribal argument, don't allow yourself be dragged down that lane. Everybody is free to call themselves whatever they want. Let's stay with the flow of the thread. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by DelticStephEn(f): 6:21pm On May 24, 2015 |
BlackTechnology:lols i'm still a student.hope to jump into modeling soon. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by BlackTechnology: 6:29pm On May 24, 2015 |
DelticStephEn: How can I contact you The love I have for you is shouting " CHANGE " |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by DelticStephEn(f): 6:32pm On May 24, 2015 |
BlackTechnology:hahaha. let it keep shouting Change oo cos this very Change it's shouting is Lust. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by einsteino(m): 6:42pm On May 24, 2015 |
DelticStephEn: Do you know people bear abiodun, ikponmwosa, irabor in agbor? go to the palace of the dein of Agbor and make inquiries. for example agbor is short for Agbonifo(meaning lineage), tell me how that name makes sense in igbo. Tell me how ofugbon which means palm oil makes sense in igbo. I also remember watching a traditional ruler of one anioma town(been long cant remember d exact town) recount their history and it wasnt far off from what i am saying. lastly onye owa.. you know someday, an owa person will claim they were never same as someone from agbor. He may even cite that he has a different crown he answers to, by then people would have forgotten how it all happpened. I once used to call myself delta igbo, but as i grew up i started asking questions and despite the fact i grew up at home, no one seemed to provide good answers till i had that project to write. I sometimes wish we have a nicely documented history like the binis who even have the addresses of the tombs of all their queen mothers(even those who were buried 2 centuries ago). hopefully someday one of us will put these things together. Right now we face an immediate danger of the ika language been lost, this is worse than not having a record of ur ancestry. Furthermore it is going to be impossible for an igbo to even genuinely accept an anioma as his kin. There is no magic you can do to make that happen and it is same with aniomas. What i am yet to find answers to is how come the igbo language is so dominant amongst aniomas, certainly some aniomas must have been migrants from igboland. But that is a topic for another day, the unfortunate thing is we hardly have a well kept history. And as more aged people die, so does our history. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Nobody: 6:46pm On May 24, 2015 |
barcanista:thanks for this wonderful article it will help in educating the 99.9 members in NL that is claiming SS yet they don't know anything about their origin. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by DelticStephEn(f): 7:00pm On May 24, 2015 |
einsteino:you even sound more funny than i imagined. have you heard of the Ugbodu community in the heart of Anioma Where Oluku mi, a derivative of yoruba are enclaved. from all your write up here i'm even beginning to doubt that you are from anioma . if not then it must be that you have not done your research very well. c'm on, everything about this is written clearly both on history text books and on the internet. why are you trying to twist it? do yourself a favour and do some research about this. it will help you alot |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by einsteino(m): 7:04pm On May 24, 2015 |
DelticStephEn: Did you hear me quote a text. I am from agbor, even grew up in agbor. Attended staff model, later switched to holy child before it was renamed to holy infant. I told u where i got my research done.go to the palace of the dein of agbor and make urs too. If i sound funny, hope u wont mind paying me the kind of sums basket mouth earns for a performance. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Cossette: 7:09pm On May 24, 2015 |
This is very educative, I never realized there was a difference between south south and the Niger delta |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by DelticStephEn(f): 7:10pm On May 24, 2015 |
einsteino:you have the right to choose who and whatever you wanna be and so do i. i don't have any lineage or ancestral root with bini people. as simple as that. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Nobody: 7:20pm On May 24, 2015 |
NDPVF:My brother, I am deeply sorry for not mentioning you. I won't repeat such mistake again. As for the "Ikwerreboy" he can at best speak for himself. The referendum will prove whether or not Ikwerre wants out. But opinion on ground testify that they want out. 4 Likes |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by phyllosilicate(m): 7:25pm On May 24, 2015 |
einsteino:My man, you come nairaland today? |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by postmann: 7:41pm On May 24, 2015 |
einsteino: FALSE! NOT ME OR MY PEOPLE SHARE ANCESTRY WITH BINIS! If you re not from delta north, then pls kindly stay off. Dont meddle into what you dont know or have a right to. 3 Likes |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Nobody: 7:43pm On May 24, 2015 |
Bros, are you aware that ANIOMA was referred to as "Western Igbo"? einsteino: |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by DiademSh07: 7:45pm On May 24, 2015 |
DelticStephEn:Busted! You're no Ika! How can you be argueing Ika ancestry with other Aniomas? @einsteino, Not all Anioma came from Bini! Only the Ukwuani and the Ikas has ancestry with the Bini. As a matter of fact, Ika which is Eka was shortened from Ekadolor which is a Bini language. The Enuanis, the aniocha/Oshimili to be precise has their ancestry with the ibos! Even the igbodo part of Ikas has been desecrated with the nomadic ibos! So, don't be suprised when some are claiming ibo! Its a matter of time, the shaft will be separated from the wicks! I wonder what ibos are doing in the midwestern/old western region! Does it resemble the eastern region? |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Nobody: 7:50pm On May 24, 2015 |
Gr8amechi:When did I carryout hate campaign against Nigeria? That Jonathan failed does not mean that we should stop asking for a better deal within the Nigeria State or an outright referendum if the State insist on the status quo as demanded by LNC. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by postmann: 7:54pm On May 24, 2015 |
lygn19: pls, Anioma people never spoke bini or edo language at any point in history! They never even bore bini or edo names , even right from Eze Chima who was said to be their progenator. They have always spoken the ibo language in their own dialects like every other ibo speaking group. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by oduastates: 8:03pm On May 24, 2015 |
Mogidi: This is because you have no clue what life was like under the western region and what it is now. First of all, compare your educational and corporate achievements to those on the eastern side. When you are done, tell me what became of boom towns like ughelli, warri and sapele. Tell me of what became of warri ports,sapele's forest reserves, timber and furniture industry, Benin manufacturing and services industry . In the quest for an independent region, they actually set themselves back. Enahoro was not alone because he was aware of the diabolical game being played by the SE and the north. The idea was not freedom. The idea was divide,conquer and recolonise. You can read this scholarly article to get an idea http://encompass.eku.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1017&context=jora Ken saro Wiwa book https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tAAcIb2XVqgC&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=minority+victim+of+biafra&source=bl&ots=V2eD8rCkzr&sig=0lmciDTbK_SFc4jUovSRmjSzVx4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WCJiVe_cMoGxU9ywgsAE&ved=0CDkQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=minority%20victim%20of%20biafra&f=false |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by postmann: 8:10pm On May 24, 2015 |
DiademSh07:Youre really classless and without selfworth. Killing yourself over something that isnt your business. How pitiable! You are so irritating! Thats the land of my forefathers! |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Abagworo(m): 8:10pm On May 24, 2015 |
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=108169 When and how did you become a king? I ascended the throne on September 6, 1959 almost 57 years now. I succeeded my father. There were previous kings before him; I have the history. My father was Efeizomor, I; my grandfather was Steven Ekoko Obaigbena, my great grandfather was Okundaye, his father was Egboba and so on. The lineage goes back all the way to 16 predecessors on this throne. It is hereditary. That’s how I became the king. Were you given a new name at the time of your coronation? I was asked to choose and I felt it was necessary for me to choose my father’s name. He was Efeizomor I and I am Efeizomor II. Please explain how this kingdom came into existence That is a very long history. From what we have on record, documented by the British in 1932, the Owa people migrated from Nri, somewhere in Anaocha Local Government in Anambra State, in the 12 century. Beginning from that time, we settled at Ute Kingdom and in the process, there was a war between Benin and Idah. So the Oba of Benin needed military reinforcement and he called on Ute Kingdom which the Obi of Ute provided. The Obi’s first son, Odogwu and his immediate younger brother, Ozomo led a contingent of soldiers to assist Benin in the military campaign against the aggressors. The operation lasted for about three years. So when Odogwu came back, it was discovered that his father had since died and as it were, since they did not know whether Odogwu was still alive, as there was no means of communication, they installed his younger brother as Obi of Ute. When Odogwu and his immediate younger brother, Ozomo came back, they discovered that their younger brother was on the throne but Odogwu having some military knowledge was not prepared to unseat his brother or declare war against him. He decided to go to the shrine and removed the essential spiritual ingredients and headed forth towards this direction with Ozomo. It was in the process of their journey that the spiritual pot that was directing their movement fell down which was the instruction that wherever the pot drops, they should settle there. So they eventually settled in this place called Owa-Oyibu. Odogwu settled here and asked Ozomo to move a little distance from him, about two kilometres which he did and he settled at Owa-Alizomor. He settled there as a buffer so that in the event of any attack, his brother with his troop will be able to offer resistance before the supply base can provide the main force. That instrument removed from the shrine is the medicine for growth and development of the community. So you can find that the whole thing is working very well to the advantage of Owa because Owa is growing in leaps and bounds. Everybody who enters Owa prospers. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by macof(m): 8:12pm On May 24, 2015 |
Beautiful thread. . Op Barcanista good job with this educative piece 1 Like |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Gr8amechi: 8:28pm On May 24, 2015 |
barcanista:when your very own fail in sane society you don't have a mouth....am not saying we should keep quiet but let us hold our governors and national and state house of Assembly responsible for most of our problems in ND.....how about the few that where empowered like ASARI what did he do for the ND my take is let government work directly with the needs and problem of our average villagers, let government give good road, health facility, good education, these can be achieved if we hold our governors responsible, hold nddc nd ministry of ND. if you doubt me go to ndokwa and see what the guy uduaghan made commissioner for ndokwa desopadec look at how far he has gone in transforming most places under him, before now people didn't feel the impact but now they do..... my point is our problem is not FG alone but we refusing to hold our own people to account for the allocation they receive |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Nobody: 8:34pm On May 24, 2015 |
Abagworo: [b The King himself has spoken. ]Ok the above is from a true Anioma king who trace his ancestors and even know them by names. Aniomas are igbos with a different dialect. Simple [/b] |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by LKO(m): 8:39pm On May 24, 2015 |
Warri/Delta province and Edo would not be part of Biafra struggle, when the chips are down, we would certainly realign with our yoruba brethren in south west Nigeria. The Aniomas in Delta can be part of Biafra, but the Urhubos, Itskekiris, Edos have always being brothers to the Yorubas and it would remain so for ever. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by LKO(m): 8:42pm On May 24, 2015 |
Warri/Delta province and Edo would not be part of Biafra struggle, when the chips are down, we would certainly realign with our yoruba brethren in south west Nigeria. The Aniomas in Delta can be part of Biafra, but the Urhubos, Itskekiris, Edos have always being brothers to the Yorubas and it would remain so for ever. |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by DiademSh07: 8:58pm On May 24, 2015 |
postmann:Which land was your fore father's land? Was it empty when you came there? You ibos in Delta state are just refugees! 1 Like |
Re: Distinction Between Niger Delta, South South And "Niger Delta" by Nobody: 9:00pm On May 24, 2015 |
Gr8amechi:With Due respect Sir. I don't see how our demand for an end to marginalisation and a better deal stops our local officials from performing. The NDDC, Min od Niger Delta and even Amnesty programs are never a part of our demand. Why must I be comfortable with 13% peanuts when our demand for improved derivation to 50% of what is earned and political restructuring? Have we at any time elected Asari, Ateke or Tompolo to administer Amnesty peanut to us? Did we even ask for Amnesty or NDDC or ND Min? I think we need to distingusih between what we want/need and what we currently get. Thank you 1 Like |
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