lygn19:
I said delta igbo in my comment and u branded urself one... so is it my fault. or did u see Arbor in my comment

Thats because i am used to the misconception of anioma to mean delta igbo. so i didnt need a prophet to tell me you were referring to aniomas. Apart from aniomas, there is no other tribe in delta that speaks a language that is similar to igbo. So i knew you could only have been referring to us.

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HiGod:


Hausas/Fulanis were never interested in any region resources until Igbos opened their eyes. Each region control their resources until Igbo forced Unitary system of govt so as to control other region resources.

They failed to achieve this under Aguiyi Ironsi and made second attempt through civil war but were forced to eat humble pies.

You just woke from sleep and started shunning out lies and crap.

Just read what he wrote out of stupidity "for divide and rule tactics. Who is using divide and rule tactics when you and fellow stupid Ijaws could not account for trillions of dollars that had been disbursed to NigerDelta and NDDC over the years. You are your own enemies fool.

Have u ever heard the quote that says that the more you blame other for your misfortunes/failures as an individual in life, d more your destiny is left on the path of destruction.

Stop blaming Federal govt for your woes.

Federal government didn't come up with the idea of Niger-delta ministry and NDDC, your leaders did. They were the ones who proposed these Niger delta ministry formation and NDDC parastatal to the Federal govt just like amnesty program which were later accepted by Federal govt.

Look inward and old your Immediate Leaders responsible for your woes. If you guys are smart enough, you would have realised by now that you guys are the most foolish set of people on earth. Asari and his likes claimed to be fighting for you(the poors) in that region but became rich out of blue moon without a reliable source of income and you are here chatting shit as usual.

The only thing that would be achievable out these lies is nothing but War.

However, let me sound this warning to you and your fellow Ijaws that in eventuality of war, you are on your own either with Igbos or purely on your own cos I m very sure that Igbos would desert you when they see the ddevastation on Ijaw land. I think you are already witnessing how your fellow Ijaw man has been deserted and abandoned by the same Igbo who were rooting for him just few weeks ago. I m even praying that Satan would push you and your enemies-in-disguise under Gen Buhari to take arms against the Nigeria state, I want you to see the pains of war in your lifetime which would certainly be fought in predominantly ijaw area and your enemies-in-disguise area.

And please, don't come here to tell us that you are betrayed by Itsekiris, Edos, Urhobos, Egberis and even the few Ijaws in Ondo state. Looking at your history, it ll be stupid at your own side to think that those aforementioned tribes would support you in any fight.

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You made a wrong turn

lygn19:
all of a sudden southsouth does not appear in d constitution and it has become an ordinary terminology, but the moment u yorubas here anything eastern region that was once in d constitution u ppl wud jump put and say we shud stop mentioning and attaching ourselves to the southsouth dat we are doing it because of oil...lol

It is not for no reason that I call you an illiterate this is a descriptive term only just defining the species to which you belong so please do not take it any other way.
That it does not appear in the constitution is a matter of fact which you can feel free to refute . The other emotional issues that you ejaculat,e are not relevant and you need to learn how to connect ideas in a coherent and sane way

DiademSh07:

People who don't learn from history repeat it!

that's y we learn from it so we mk corrections and strategize more...

omonnakoda:
It is not for no reason that I call you an illiterate this is a descriptive term only just defining the species to which you belong so please do not take it any other way.
That it does not appear in the constitution is a matter of fact which you can feel free to refute . The other emotional issues that you ejaculate are not relevant and you need to learn how to connect ideas in a coherent and sane way

ok

einsteino:



Thats because i am used to the misconception of anioma to mean delta igbo. so i didnt need a prophet to tell me you were referring to aniomas. Apart from aniomas, there is no other tribe in delta that speaks a language that is similar to igbo. So i knew you could only have been referring to us.

Einsteino, please let's not make this thread another tribal argument, don't allow yourself be dragged down that lane. Everybody is free to call themselves whatever they want. Let's stay with the flow of the thread.

BlackTechnology:

Na wa oooo
See breasts oooo
Tell us your handwork

lols i'm still a student.hope to jump into modeling soon.

DelticStephEn:

lols
i'm still a student.hope to jump into modeling soon.

How can I contact you

The love I have for you is shouting " CHANGE "

BlackTechnology:

How can I contact you
The love I have for you is shouting " CHANGE "

hahaha. let it keep shouting Change oo cos this very Change it's shouting is Lust.

DelticStephEn:

you are really funny.
i'm from Owa.
but allthis your claims are all wrong. i think you are the one who is lost and don't know about our land.
it's either you are part of the ika people called Ozzara who migrated from bini or that you have read our history and found out the truth that we have 99.9% ancestral root from igboland but you still refused to accept that it is just the truth.
so many of us from Anioma have engaged in hectic argument about this but after so much research,we were able to trace our origin to igboland.Apart from language,cultural & name similarity, i have had enough evidence that our ancestors are from igboland.
the problem with us igbo in south south is that we always fail to differenciate dialete from language and tribe from ethnic group.
that when some one say that we are igbo with reason that we speak igbo and bear igbo name,some set of people will giv excuse that we speak similar language that sound different,and some of us will say that we answer english name does that make us an English?.forgeting that Dialete is not the same thing with language.
i used to be like this fighting anyone that dare to call me igbo,but d argument between me & some of our anioma elders got so tough that i had to go into deep research.
and low and behold they were right.

Do you know people bear abiodun, ikponmwosa, irabor in agbor? go to the palace of the dein of Agbor and make inquiries. for example agbor is short for Agbonifo(meaning lineage), tell me how that name makes sense in igbo. Tell me how ofugbon which means palm oil makes sense in igbo. I also remember watching a traditional ruler of one anioma town(been long cant remember d exact town) recount their history and it wasnt far off from what i am saying.

lastly onye owa.. you know someday, an owa person will claim they were never same as someone from agbor. He may even cite that he has a different crown he answers to, by then people would have forgotten how it all happpened. I once used to call myself delta igbo, but as i grew up i started asking questions and despite the fact i grew up at home, no one seemed to provide good answers till i had that project to write. I sometimes wish we have a nicely documented history like the binis who even have the addresses of the tombs of all their queen mothers(even those who were buried 2 centuries ago). hopefully someday one of us will put these things together. Right now we face an immediate danger of the ika language been lost, this is worse than not having a record of ur ancestry.


Furthermore it is going to be impossible for an igbo to even genuinely accept an anioma as his kin. There is no magic you can do to make that happen and it is same with aniomas. What i am yet to find answers to is how come the igbo language is so dominant amongst aniomas, certainly some aniomas must have been migrants from igboland. But that is a topic for another day, the unfortunate thing is we hardly have a well kept history. And as more aged people die, so does our history.

barcanista:
Summary:
1. The Niger-Deltans in the "Real Sense" are people in the present day Rivers and Bayelsa states (old Rivers province), and Warri in the present day Delta state (old Warri/Delta province).

2. The “official” Niger Delta is an expression for the oil producing states of Ondo, Imo, Abia, Akwa Ibom, Edo, Cross River, Rivers, Delta and Bayelsa states. It is not exclusive to South South.

3. "South South" consist of 4 old Eastern states (Rivers, Bayelsa, Cross river and Akwa Ibom) and the old Midwest (Edo and Delta).

4. No single ethnic group can speak for "South South", as historical interests differs. For instance,
I) In Delta state, the Itsekiris are majorly pro-Yorubas. They majorly voted against Midwest region(preferring to be with the Yoruba Western region), and opposed the creation of Warri state. The Akoko-edos in Edo state are also pro-Yoruba and also opposed the creation of Midwest region.

III) The Binis, Esans, Ijaws, Igbos etc of Edo and Delta states have always lived harmonously since the fall of Benin Kingdom in 1897, formed alliances and supported each others interests. In fact, it was an Igboman(Anioma) Denis Osadebe that proposed Benin city to be the capital of MidWest/Bendel in 1963.

5. There is ethnic Igbo population in Delta (ANIOMA) and Rivers states. There is Ijaw ethnic population in Edo(Toru-Ibe Ijaws), Akwa Ibom (Eastern Andonis/Ibolo) and Ondo (Arogbo Ijaws) in addition to those in Rivers, Delta and Bayelsa states.

6. While the term "Niger Deltans" refers to people from Rivers, Bayelsa and Warri, the term "South Southners" refers to people that falls into the six states within the South South.


I hope we find this piece educating and Informative.



God Bless Us All

dailyindependentnig.com/2014/01/ethnic-groups-geo-political-regions-nigeria/
www.african-volunteer.net/niger_delta.html
www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ng_orp.html
www.vanguardngr.com/2011/02/the-true-story-of-delta-state-creation-by-otobo-akpeki-tosanwumi/

http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/ethnichistories/
EgharevbaLectures/Fifth-Omoigui.htm

thanks for this wonderful article it will help in educating the 99.9 members in NL that is claiming SS yet they don't know anything about their origin.

einsteino:


Do you know people bear abiodun, ikponmwosa, irabor in agbor? go to the palace of the dein of Agbor and make inquiries. for example agbor is short for Agbonifo(meaning lineage), tell me how that name makes sense in igbo. Tell me how ofugbon which means palm oil makes sense in igbo. I also remember watching a traditional ruler of one anioma town(been long cant remember d exact town) recount their history and it wasnt far off from what i am saying.

lastly onye owa.. you know someday, an owa person will claim they were never same as someone from agbor. He may even cite that he has a different crown he answers to, by then people would have forgotten how it all happpened. I once used to call myself delta igbo, but as i grew up i started asking questions and despite the fact i grew up at home, no one seemed to provide good answers till i had that project to write. I sometimes wish we have a nicely documented history like the binis who even have the addresses of the tombs of all their queen mothers(even those who were buried 2 centuries ago). hopefully someday one of us will put these things together. Right now we face an immediate danger of the ika language been lost, this is worse than not having a record of ur ancestry.

you even sound more funny than i imagined.
have you heard of the Ugbodu community in the heart of Anioma Where Oluku mi, a derivative of yoruba are enclaved.
from all your write up here i'm even beginning to doubt that you are from anioma .
if not then it must be that you have not done your research very well.
c'm on, everything about this is written clearly both on history text books and on the internet.
why are you trying to twist it?
do yourself a favour and do some research about this.
it will help you alot

DelticStephEn:

you even sound more funny than i imagined.
have you heard of the Ugbodu community in the heart of Anioma Where Oluku mi, a derivative of yoruba are enclaved.
from up you write up here i'm even beginning to doubt that you are from anioma .
if not then it must be that you have not don't your research very well.
c'm on, everything about this is written clearly both on history text books and on the internet.
why are you trying to twist it?
do yourself a favour and do some research about this.
it will help you alot

Did you hear me quote a text. I am from agbor, even grew up in agbor. Attended staff model, later switched to holy child before it was renamed to holy infant. I told u where i got my research done.go to the palace of the dein of agbor and make urs too.

If i sound funny, hope u wont mind paying me the kind of sums basket mouth earns for a performance.

This is very educative, I never realized there was a difference between south south and the Niger delta

einsteino:


Did you hear me quote a text. I am from agbor, even grew up in agbor. Attended staff model, later switched to holy child before it was renamed to holy infant. I told u where i got my research done.go to the palace of the dein of agbor and make urs too.

If i sound funny, hope u wont mind paying me the kind of sums basket mouth earns for a performance.

you have the right to choose who and whatever you wanna be and so do i.
i don't have any lineage or ancestral root with bini people.
as simple as that.

NDPVF:
I feel bad that each time i see your post,it has alreay gotten +pages.No 'Ccing' of me whatsoever.Anyway,this is what i have been telling one use.less Ikwerreboy,never to claim speaking for either my people,or any other group in this zone,anytime he is making his useless comment of "WE no like ana",because him and his Ikwerre is too inconsequential to speak for us.

My brother, I am deeply sorry for not mentioning you. I won't repeat such mistake again. As for the "Ikwerreboy" he can at best speak for himself. The referendum will prove whether or not Ikwerre wants out. But opinion on ground testify that they want out.

einsteino:
There is no such thing as delta igbo. Get ur facts right

The people you call delta igbo do not share any ancestry with igbos, rather most have theirs from the binis.

My man, you come nairaland today?

einsteino:
There is no such thing as delta igbo. Get ur facts right

The people you call delta igbo do not share any ancestry with igbos, rather most have theirs from the binis.

FALSE!
NOT ME OR MY PEOPLE SHARE ANCESTRY WITH BINIS!
If you re not from delta north, then pls kindly stay off. Dont meddle into what you dont know or have a right to.

Bros, are you aware that ANIOMA was referred to as "Western Igbo"?

einsteino:



Thats because i am used to the misconception of anioma to mean delta igbo. so i didnt need a prophet to tell me you were referring to aniomas. Apart from aniomas, there is no other tribe in delta that speaks a language that is similar to igbo. So i knew you could only have been referring to us.

DelticStephEn:

you are really funny.
i'm from Owa.
but allthis your claims are all wrong. i think you are the one who is lost and don't know about our land.
it's either you are part of the ika people called Ozzara who migrated from bini or that you have read our history and found out the truth that we have 99.9% ancestral root from igboland but you still refused to accept that it is just the truth.
so many of us from Anioma have engaged in hectic argument about this but after so much research,we were able to trace our origin to igboland.Apart from language,cultural & name similarity, i have had enough evidence that our ancestors are from igboland.
the problem with us igbo in south south is that we always fail to differenciate dialete from language and tribe from ethnic group.
that when some one say that we are igbo with reason that we speak igbo and bear igbo name,some set of people will giv excuse that we speak similar language that sound different,and some of us will say that we answer english name does that make us an English?.forgeting that Dialete is not the same thing with language.
i used to be like this fighting anyone that dare to call me igbo,but d argument between me & some of our anioma elders got so tough that i had to go into deep research.
and low and behold they were right.

Busted!
You're no Ika!
How can you be argueing Ika ancestry with other Aniomas?
@einsteino, Not all Anioma came from Bini! Only the Ukwuani and the Ikas has ancestry with the Bini. As a matter of fact, Ika which is Eka was shortened from Ekadolor which is a Bini language.
The Enuanis, the aniocha/Oshimili to be precise has their ancestry with the ibos! Even the igbodo part of Ikas has been desecrated with the nomadic ibos!
So, don't be suprised when some are claiming ibo!
Its a matter of time, the shaft will be separated from the wicks!
I wonder what ibos are doing in the midwestern/old western region! Does it resemble the eastern region?

Gr8amechi:
what you wrote is quite informing but its only someone who isn't enlightened that would say he or she wasn't aware, please do Nigeria a favour by stop your hate campaign about Nigeria using Niger delta resources ( am not saying they are not using it) but over emphasising it isn't right either because our son was given the opportunity to develop our region but he failed woefully, if our own son can't deal with our issues why should we blame people from other regions??

When did I carryout hate campaign against Nigeria? That Jonathan failed does not mean that we should stop asking for a better deal within the Nigeria State or an outright referendum if the State insist on the status quo as demanded by LNC.

lygn19:

But if u meet an a delta north person whose name is chidera outside delta state, lemme say in a neutral state like rivers state and ask her where are u from, she wud tell u Delta-igbo...
Also does any Edo person answer Chidera, u guys have Bini ancestry but u guys abandoned ur Benin Language and adopted Igbo as ur language... only in Nigeria dat things like dx happens.

pls, Anioma people never spoke bini or edo language at any point in history! They never even bore bini or edo names , even right from Eze Chima who was said to be their progenator. They have always spoken the ibo language in their own dialects like every other ibo speaking group.

Mogidi:


Still shocked that Anthony Enahoro (the man who raised the motion for independence) wanted to deny us independence from the western region.

Surprised beyond belief.

This is because you have no clue what life was like under the western region and what it is now.
First of all, compare your educational and corporate achievements to those on the eastern side.
When you are done, tell me what became of boom towns like ughelli, warri and sapele. Tell me of what became of warri ports,sapele's forest reserves, timber and furniture industry, Benin manufacturing and services industry .
In the quest for an independent region, they actually set themselves back.
Enahoro was not alone because he was aware of the diabolical game being played by the SE and the north.
The idea was not freedom. The idea was divide,conquer and recolonise.
You can read this scholarly article to get an idea

http://encompass.eku.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1017&context=jora

Ken saro Wiwa book

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tAAcIb2XVqgC&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=minority+victim+of+biafra&source=bl&ots=V2eD8rCkzr&sig=0lmciDTbK_SFc4jUovSRmjSzVx4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WCJiVe_cMoGxU9ywgsAE&ved=0CDkQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=minority%20victim%20of%20biafra&f=false

DiademSh07:

It's a matter of time the owner of Delta flush you out!
Your fore fathers found the land in Delta barren, huh?
It's a matter of time!

Youre really classless and without selfworth. Killing yourself over something that isnt your business. How pitiable!
You are so irritating! Thats the land of my forefathers!

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=108169


When and how did you become a king?


I ascended the throne on September 6, 1959 almost 57 years
now. I succeeded my father. There were previous kings
before him; I have the history. My father was Efeizomor, I;
my grandfather was Steven Ekoko Obaigbena, my great
grandfather was Okundaye, his father was Egboba and so on.
The lineage goes back all the way to 16 predecessors on this
throne. It is hereditary. That’s how I became the king.


Were you given a new name at the time of your coronation?


I was asked to choose and I felt it was necessary for me to
choose my father’s name. He was Efeizomor I and I am
Efeizomor II.

Please explain how this kingdom came into existence


That is a very long history. From what we have on record,
documented by the British in 1932, the Owa people migrated
from Nri, somewhere in Anaocha Local Government in
Anambra State, in the 12 century. Beginning from that time,
we settled at Ute Kingdom and in the process, there was a
war between Benin and Idah. So the Oba of Benin needed
military reinforcement and he called on Ute Kingdom which
the Obi of Ute provided. The Obi’s first son, Odogwu and his
immediate younger brother, Ozomo led a contingent of
soldiers to assist Benin in the military campaign against the
aggressors. The operation lasted for about three years. So
when Odogwu came back, it was discovered that his father
had since died and as it were, since they did not know
whether Odogwu was still alive, as there was no means of
communication, they installed his younger brother as Obi of
Ute. When Odogwu and his immediate younger brother,
Ozomo came back, they discovered that their younger
brother was on the throne but Odogwu having some military
knowledge was not prepared to unseat his brother or declare
war against him. He decided to go to the shrine and removed
the essential spiritual ingredients and headed forth towards
this direction with Ozomo. It was in the process of their
journey that the spiritual pot that was directing their
movement fell down which was the instruction that wherever
the pot drops, they should settle there.
So they eventually settled in this place called Owa-Oyibu.
Odogwu settled here and asked Ozomo to move a little
distance from him, about two kilometres which he did and he
settled at Owa-Alizomor. He settled there as a buffer so that
in the event of any attack, his brother with his troop will be
able to offer resistance before the supply base can provide
the main force. That instrument removed from the shrine is
the medicine for growth and development of the community.
So you can find that the whole thing is working very well to
the advantage of Owa because Owa is growing in leaps and
bounds. Everybody who enters Owa prospers.

Beautiful thread. . Op Barcanista good job with this educative piece

barcanista:
When did I carryout hate campaign against Nigeria? That Jonathan failed does not mean that we should stop asking for a better deal within the Nigeria State or an outright referendum if the State insist on the status quo as demanded by LNC.

when your very own fail in sane society you don't have a mouth....am not saying we should keep quiet but let us hold our governors and national and state house of Assembly responsible for most of our problems in ND.....how about the few that where empowered like ASARI what did he do for the ND my take is let government work directly with the needs and problem of our average villagers, let government give good road, health facility, good education, these can be achieved if we hold our governors responsible, hold nddc nd ministry of ND. if you doubt me go to ndokwa and see what the guy uduaghan made commissioner for ndokwa desopadec look at how far he has gone in transforming most places under him, before now people didn't feel the impact but now they do..... my point is our problem is not FG alone but we refusing to hold our own people to account for the allocation they receive

Abagworo:

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=108169


When and how did you become a king?


I ascended the throne on September 6, 1959 almost 57 years
now. I succeeded my father. There were previous kings
before him; I have the history. My father was Efeizomor, I;
my grandfather was Steven Ekoko Obaigbena, my great
grandfather was Okundaye, his father was Egboba and so on.
The lineage goes back all the way to 16 predecessors on this
throne. It is hereditary. That’s how I became the king.


Were you given a new name at the time of your coronation?


I was asked to choose and I felt it was necessary for me to
choose my father’s name. He was Efeizomor I and I am
Efeizomor II.

Please explain how this kingdom came into existence


That is a very long history. From what we have on record,
documented by the British in 1932, the Owa people migrated
from Nri, [b]somewhere in Anaocha Local Government in
Anambra State, in the 12 century. [/b]Beginning from that time,
we settled at Ute Kingdom and in the process, there was a
war between Benin and Idah. So the Oba of Benin needed
military reinforcement and he called on Ute Kingdom which
the Obi of Ute provided. The Obi’s first son, Odogwu and his
immediate younger brother, Ozomo led a contingent of
soldiers to assist Benin in the military campaign against the
aggressors. The operation lasted for about three years. So
when Odogwu came back, it was discovered that his father
had since died and as it were, since they did not know
whether Odogwu was still alive, as there was no means of
communication, they installed his younger brother as Obi of
Ute. When Odogwu and his immediate younger brother,
Ozomo came back, they discovered that their younger
brother was on the throne but Odogwu having some military
knowledge was not prepared to unseat his brother or declare
war against him. He decided to go to the shrine and removed
the essential spiritual ingredients and headed forth towards
this direction with Ozomo. It was in the process of their
journey that the spiritual pot that was directing their
movement fell down which was the instruction that wherever
the pot drops, they should settle there.
So they eventually settled in this place called Owa-Oyibu.
Odogwu settled here and asked Ozomo to move a little
distance from him, about two kilometres which he did and he
settled at Owa-Alizomor. He settled there as a buffer so that
in the event of any attack, his brother with his troop will be
able to offer resistance before the supply base can provide
the main force. That instrument removed from the shrine is
the medicine for growth and development of the community.
So you can find that the whole thing is working very well to
the advantage of Owa because Owa is growing in leaps and
bounds. Everybody who enters Owa prospers.

[b The King himself has spoken. ]Ok the above is from a true Anioma king who trace his ancestors and even know them by names. Aniomas are igbos with a different dialect. Simple [/b]

Warri/Delta province and Edo would not be part of Biafra struggle, when the chips are down, we would certainly realign with our yoruba brethren in south west Nigeria. The Aniomas in Delta can be part of Biafra, but the Urhubos, Itskekiris, Edos have always being brothers to the Yorubas and it would remain so for ever.

Warri/Delta province and Edo would not be part of Biafra struggle, when the chips are down, we would certainly realign with our yoruba brethren in south west Nigeria. The Aniomas in Delta can be part of Biafra, but the Urhubos, Itskekiris, Edos have always being brothers to the Yorubas and it would remain so for ever.

postmann:

Youre really classless and without selfworth. Killing yourself over something that isnt your business. How pitiable!
You are so irritating! Thats the land of my forefathers!

Which land was your fore father's land? Was it empty when you came there?
You ibos in Delta state are just refugees!

Gr8amechi:
when your very own fail in sane society you don't have a mouth....am not saying we should keep quiet but let us hold our governors and national and state house of Assembly responsible for most of our problems in ND.....how about the few that where empowered like ASARI what did he do for the ND my take is let government work directly with the needs and problem of our average villagers, let government give good road, health facility, good education, these can be achieved if we hold our governors responsible, hold nddc nd ministry of ND. if you doubt me go to ndokwa and see what the guy uduaghan made commissioner for ndokwa desopadec look at how far he has gone in transforming most places under him, before now people didn't feel the impact but now they do..... my point is our problem is not FG alone but we refusing to hold our own people to account for the allocation they receive

With Due respect Sir. I don't see how our demand for an end to marginalisation and a better deal stops our local officials from performing. The NDDC, Min od Niger Delta and even Amnesty programs are never a part of our demand. Why must I be comfortable with 13% peanuts when our demand for improved derivation to 50% of what is earned and political restructuring? Have we at any time elected Asari, Ateke or Tompolo to administer Amnesty peanut to us? Did we even ask for Amnesty or NDDC or ND Min? I think we need to distingusih between what we want/need and what we currently get.

Thank you