KingEbukasBlog:


Hahaha ... I thought it were men and women who " arose naturally" that first discovered that - love

finofaya:


No sir, it was Jesus. Jesus is love.

KingEbukasBlog:


How can say that ! Can you prove it ? I need proof !

finofaya:


The Lord loves you. Open your heart or any body part to him and see.

KingEbukasBlog:


Please tell me , are you sure ? How can open my heart or this "body part" ?

finofaya:


Say "Jesus, rock of ages, I desire you, come into me". Say it while you kneel in prayer.

When it works you will feel a warmth inside you, permeating you being. Before then, keep trying.

KingEbukasBlog:


I hope you know God's power is not limited to creation . How about miracles- lame walking , blind seeing- personal experiences , healings etc
Is that also part of an " extrapolation of human creativity " ?

I dont get ... looks like a typo or something you should elucidate

Kay17:
Do you think God is a metaphysical being?

KingEbukasBlog:


Hmm ... metaphysical relates to supernatural ... then yes He is a supernatural being ... why do you ask ?

Kay17:


What do you use to detect such a metaphysical being?

KingEbukasBlog:


It can't be scientifically explained because the being is supernatural (beyond science & laws of nature ) . So its more like how to detect Him and not what is used to detect Him . Now that's when Religion comes in !

Through religion you can understand the true nature of God . But you have to be of Him in other to "detect" Him .

^^^^ This is rudimentary though

finofaya:
I have o. On this thread and on an earlier one where OP made a similar argument. I will try to win him over some other time. Have you commented yet?

Kay17:


How do you detect God through religion?

ProphetUdeme:
God is found everywhere and thus we could detect Him thru the Spirit that He gives us. But saying all this and no matter how deep we tell you about the truth of God. You will still not belief. Why? Because your conscience has been hardened and blinded. So pls may i know what kickstarted your agnosticism/atheism or were you born like this?

Kay17:


So for me to find your God, I must either believe or assume a Spirit of God exists. Then accept certain effects as the handiwork of this spirit, and thus find God. Don't you think these are laborious assumptions to make?! Shouldn't I be more suspicious of the assumptions I make to prop up your God?

Kay17:


So for me to find your God, I must either believe or assume a Spirit of God exists. Then accept certain effects as the handiwork of this spirit, and thus find God. Don't you think these are laborious assumptions to make?! Shouldn't I be more suspicious of the assumptions I make to prop up your God?

malvisguy212:
bible did not teach blind faith , the bible encourage the believers to be certain of their faith , Jesus did not forced Thomas to accept him , even when Jesus know, peter will deny him , he still allow it to happened,Jesus told judas to do what he ought to do , if you can't be sure of the existence of God ,you don't have to believe, first be sure of what you want to believe.

Kay17:


How does this make me aware of your God's existence? Don't you put the horse before the cart by asking me to believe there was a Thomas, a Jesus and a Judas; all these characters I am expected to believe to be truthful, and take that for God?!

malvisguy212:
I did not even ask you to believe.what caught my attention in your post is when you say
" I must either believe or assume a Spirit of God exists."which is what I don't agree with.you don't assume if God exist,it is either you believe 100% he does exist or you do not believe he exist.
https://www.nairaland.com/2361253/100-convinced-vs-100-committed

Kay17:


So for me to find your God, I must either believe or assume a Spirit of God exists. Then accept certain effects as the handiwork of this spirit, and thus find God. Don't you think these are laborious assumptions to make?! Shouldn't I be more suspicious of the assumptions I make to prop up your God?

Kay17:


How do you detect God through religion?

KingEbukasBlog:


I pray and He answers me . People pray for me and He answers . He responds to my requests . Ive been sick and prayed for and God healed me instantly . Lemme quickly tell you one of the numerous testimonies of mine :

When I was a kid , I always had terrible nightmares . Most times I wake up scared and can't sleep. I was so scared that sometimes I began to cry . It was a thing of worry to my mum . That went on for a very long time till she then acted ! Mum called a house care member or leader ( cant remember which it was ) in my church ( at that time ) and asked him to pray for me , after explaining everything to him . He prayed for me- commanded those nightmares to stop - and it ceased . From that day( over 15 years ago or so till now ) Ive never had those terrible nightmares again !

So did I "detect" Him ? yes

KingEbukasBlog:


I pray and He answers me . People pray for me and He answers . He responds to my requests . Ive been sick and prayed for and God healed me instantly . Lemme quickly tell you one of the numerous testimonies of mine :

When I was a kid , I always had terrible nightmares . Most times I wake up scared and can't sleep. I was so scared that sometimes I began to cry . It was a thing of worry to my mum . That went on for a very long time till she then acted ! Mum called a house care member or leader ( cant remember which it was ) in my church ( at that time ) and asked him to pray for me , after explaining everything to him . He prayed for me- commanded those nightmares to stop - and it ceased . From that day( over 15 years ago or so till now ) Ive never had those terrible nightmares again !

So did I "detect" Him ? yes

timonski:

You, sir, are uneducated.

Kay17:


So you feel you owe a debt to this Being who ensures your good health, and therefore try to "pay" back by acknowledging his existence and worshiping him, right?

Wouldn't you agree with me that a direct experience with God is impossible? By "direct", I mean a clear and unequivocal perception of God which everyone have.

KingEbukasBlog:


No no ... anybody can have a direct experience with God

Kay17:


But you never had one.

Kay17:


So for me to find your God, I must either believe or assume a Spirit of God exists. Then accept certain effects as the handiwork of this spirit, and thus find God. Don't you think these are laborious assumptions to make?! Shouldn't I be more suspicious of the assumptions I make to prop up your God?

7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Kay17:


You mean faith?

malvisguy212:
it is either you have faith in God or you do not, and when you do(have faith in God ) , you make sure you are 100% sure of what you believe. Bible never encourage the believers to have blind faith.

KingEbukasBlog:


Like I earlier said : " I pray and He answers me . People pray for me and He answers . He responds to my requests . Ive been sick and prayed for and God healed me instantly ."