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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Mogidi: 10:01am On Aug 04, 2015
AZeD1:

The JURISDICTION of the DSS is Nigeria.

Anything or anyone they feel is a threat to National security is under their jurisdiction.

Is Dasuki or the the storming of PDP secretariat a bigger threat than boko haram? You forgot the primary role of the DSS is to secure Nigeria.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Nobody: 10:03am On Aug 04, 2015
babyfaceafrica:
lol..am sorry guy..austere times calls for aaustere measures!!...nd please is DSS breaking d law?
u still de ask?
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by hinwazaka: 10:03am On Aug 04, 2015
AZeD1:

The JURISDICTION of the DSS is Nigeria.

Anything or anyone they feel is a threat to National security is under their jurisdiction.
Jurisdiction is left to the interpretation of the courts. Your school of thought belongs to the soviet union

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by AZeD1(m): 10:05am On Aug 04, 2015
Mogidi:


Is Dasuki or the the storming of PDP secretariat a bigger threat than boko haram? You forgot the primary role of the DSS is to secure Nigeria.
The fight against Boko Haram has been handed over to the Nigerian Army and the multinational joint task force. Everyman and his dog knows that.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Mogidi: 10:05am On Aug 04, 2015
hinwazaka:
Jurisdiction is left to the interpretation of the courts. [size=15pt]Your school of thought belongs to the soviet union[/size]

lol @ emboldened grin grin grin
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by OrlandoOwoh(m): 10:08am On Aug 04, 2015
Was Merilyn Ogah a judge or a police officer when she said Lai Muhammed was "arrested" on the eve of Osun State governorship election for roaming?
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by babyfaceafrica: 10:08am On Aug 04, 2015
barcanista:
u still de ask?
lol..my guy why then is nobody tking them to court?..are they afraid?..the courts is the hope of Nigerians and in fairness to them ..they have tried!!
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Mogidi: 10:08am On Aug 04, 2015
AZeD1:

The fight against Boko Haram has been handed over to the Nigerian Army and the multinational joint task force. Everyman and his dog knows that.
But the gathering of intelligence is the responsibility of DSS, boko haram is not a regular army, the spate of suicide bombings that escalated in recent weeks can only be the result of the DSS not playing its primary role of intelligence gathering.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by midolian(m): 10:09am On Aug 04, 2015
torkaka:


. . . . . . . . .unintelligent minion, owning bullet proof cars without a permit in Nigeria is a crime, having five of those cars is a possible threat to national security!!! . . . . . . . . .goon, imagine five bullet proof cars in the hands of boko haram roaming the streets of Abuja . . . . . . . . .what the DSS did is what we call nipping in the bud



. . . . . . . .dull boy, it is not the role of the army to determine that, the army is not a protective(body guard) force!!!! . . . . . . . . . . .any security outfit in the country can decide to roll out its officers to protect individuals, however there's what we call checks and balances!!! . . . . . . .maybe the rules have changed, but the only non officials entitled to army guards are former heads of state and former service chiefs . . . . . .the DSS simply curtailed a situation whereby unauthorised (and uncontrolled) guns are seen at every nook and cranny . . . . . . .think national security!!!



. . . . . . . . . . . .imp, is taking advantage of consumers not a crime? what did the national security act you quoted say again? . . . . . . .you are getting dumber by the day



. . . . . . . . .what role of the tribunal have the DSS played? have they nullified an election? have they declared a winner? . . . . . . . . .dull boy, let me ask you, have you heard of any tribunal that has arrested a REC for a crime committed? . . . . . . .the roles are different, whether you commit a crime before, during or after elections, the DSS is interested in the crime period!!!



. . . . . . . . .again, Mr online analyst, you are so lost you cannot correlate the breakdown of law and order with internal security threat!!!

. . . . . . . .last punch, you rely too much on copy and paste . . . . . . . . . .there has never been an intelligent input in any of your write ups, it is glaring that what you do is simply google articles as it massages your one sided ego and come to nairaland to display!! . . . . . . . . . . . .GET A LIFE!!!
Jisos christ of Nazareth! shocked shocked shocked

This is wicked! cheesy cheesy

Well, as I ll always say, his threads are always empty...and meant for his e-family members. Thanks for enlightening him

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by hinwazaka: 10:11am On Aug 04, 2015
AZeD1:

Power installations and petroleum installations round the country are classified as critical assets.

The best way to handle a monopolistic market is to break its barriers of entry. Read up on that

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by zicoraads: 10:11am On Aug 04, 2015
Mynd44:

1. No one said anyone cannot drive a bulletproof car, you must have a licence to do so. Is that so difficult? You want to. The cars are just something the found. You want to know why they were there, ask the judge that gave then the warrant to search the house

2 As far as you know the DPR did not consider the actions of the DSS as a national security one but the DSS did right? Has the DPR come out to complain about jurisdictions?

3. The court granted their prayers right? But was the army and DSS used during the elections or not?

4. Dude the DSS can use their discretion to decide which case to take and which not to take. A bank robbery is statutorily a police case but the DSS can decide to take it up from the police if they want or if it forms part of a larger investigations.

I am not in the mood for philistinism this morning
1. Then the 'progressives' should stop screaming bullet proof cars and making it look like that is the man's crime. A hunter usually displays his kill after a hunt. The DSS displayed those cars and made it look like the cars were the 'national security threats' that necessitated the warrant. If they haven't charged him to court yet with all the evidence of 'national security threats', then they have nothing on him.

2. When we have a dictator as the president, would you as the spokesperson of the DPR hold a press conference to complain that the DSS is taking over your roles? I still maintain that it was the DPR's job, and not the DSS's. The DSS had no jurisdiction.

3. They were only used to escort materials, and formed outer perimeters to check vehicular movement. They were not in polling booths as was the case in previous elections. Still, it doesn't justify their new role as 'arresting officers' in matters of electoral fraud. They have no jurisdiction whatsoever.

4. The DSS cannot use their discretion to decide on a crime to take or not to take. If the crime does not cover the laws guiding their establishment and roles as a department of government, then, they have no jurisdiction.

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Nobody: 10:16am On Aug 04, 2015
socialmediaman:


I guess you didnt read the part where the PDP staff invited the DSS to interfer in its crisis against Metuh and NWC:

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/08/im-open-dss-probe-metuh-tells-pdp-staff/

When it borders state or national security, DSS is mandated to act. For instance, if someone gets robbed as a citizen or his office gets robbed, this is police business, but if the president's son gets robbed or let's say APC or PDP office gets robbed, this is high profile and DSS is mandated to act immediately, especially if there is reason to believe that this is connected to a larger scheme that affects or may affect national security. In the case of Dasuki, DSS believed he was part of a scheme to hamper the war against insurgency and destabilize national security etc, many of the issues raised by Barcanista are actually pointless to generate serious attention
So it also the responsibility of DSS to investigate robbery? This is why I am saying that some of you are pathetic. Who handled the assassination investigation of Funso Williams, Bola Ige andothers? Why didnt aggriveved ApC SINators tell the DSS to investigate the alleged forgery of Senate rules? You see why I always say some of you are the problems of Nigeria? Do you even have any clue on the role of DSS, NIA and DMI? That some clowns petition DSS to investigate a job that is within the powers of EFCC, ICPC and Police does not justify DSS' impunity. Also the DSS went there to "maintain law and order" which is clearly the mandate of Police.

Fyi: DsS is not alternative police nor a superior one.

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Mogidi: 10:16am On Aug 04, 2015
midolian:
Jisos christ of Nazareth! shocked shocked shocked

This is wicked! cheesy cheesy

Well, as I ll always say, his threads are always empty...and meant for his e-family members. Thanks for enlightening him

Thanks for visiting an empty thread.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by zicoraads: 10:17am On Aug 04, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
Was Merilyn Ogah a judge or a police officer when she said Lai Muhammed was "arrested" on the eve of Osun State governorship election for roaming?
Everyone knows that there is a strict restriction of movement on the eve and during election in Nigeria. The DSS, military, police etc. are often deployed during this period. Anyone caught by any of those agencies will be arrested. Do you expect them to allow you pass until you meet a police checkpoint? cheesy cheesy

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by omolami: 10:18am On Aug 04, 2015
These and many others are what NASS need to impeach the president. I only hope someone is compiling

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by AZeD1(m): 10:18am On Aug 04, 2015
hinwazaka:
Jurisdiction is left to the interpretation of the courts. Your school of thought belongs to the soviet union
Now that is funny
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by shaqhead: 10:23am On Aug 04, 2015
As AzeD1 has said, on the DSS website it is clearly stated what the statutory powers of the DSS are which should credibly suffice instead the half-baked interpretation by a Barcanista
Read the following excerpts
The State Security Service is obligated by law to perform the following:
a. Prevention, detection and Investigation of:
iv. Economic crimes of national security dimension
(EFCC and ICPC business abi, yes they have such powers!)

iv. provision of timely advice to Government on all matters of national security interest; and such other functions as may from time to time be as assigned by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.The operations of the State Security Service may arise out of tasking directed personally by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces; the National Defense and Security. Council; the National Security Adviser; the Intelligence Community Committee (ICC) or the Joint Intelligence Board (JIB) subject to ratification by the President, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces where considered necessary or desirable.

For the-purpose of facilitating the discharge of its functions under this Instrument, personnel of the State Security Service are hereby conferred with the powers of a Superior Police Officer in respect of searches and arrests.
(Searches and Arrests? Yes they can do that too!)

The State Security Service is empowered to:

RESPONSIBILITY

The State Security Service shall be charged with responsibility for:

a) The prevention and detection within Nigeria of ANY crime against the internal security of Nigeria:
(Please read that slowly. It says ANY Crime right?-meaning u can't box them, that is, they can go into any Jurisdiction-drugs, financial corruption, terrorism, Yahoo tinz, e.t.c!

c) Such other responsibilities affecting internal security within Nigeria as the National Assembly or the President: as the case may be:may deem necessary
(As the case may be deemed necessary)

https://dss.gov.ng/index.php/component/k2/item/49?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C7150153833

So Barca and hinwazaka, zicoraads if ur serial attempts at twisting facts for misfinformation becomes an issue wt d DSS...hmm..get ready to scrible ur name on d wall of one of DSS dungeons!

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by AZeD1(m): 10:23am On Aug 04, 2015
Mogidi:

But the gathering of intelligence is the responsibility of DSS, boko haram is not a regular army, the spate of suicide bombings that escalated in recent weeks can only be the result of the DSS not playing its primary role of intelligence gathering.
The DSS actually faulted by not stopping this early, something they are trying to do now that you are complaining.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by midolian(m): 10:24am On Aug 04, 2015
Mogidi:


Thanks for visiting an empty thread.
my man, how u dey? grin

You see, I have got followers that will always share posts with me. There is no way I ld read some of their posts without replying...nd that's how I find myself on his threads some of the time.

Plus, sometimes, you ll jst want to see the kinda bashing he ll receive for opening an empty thread. I hope you now understand..Thanks
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Mogidi: 10:26am On Aug 04, 2015
omolami:
These and many others are what NASS need to impeach the president. I only hope someone is compiling
I wholeheartedly concur with your summation, there's prima facie case to begin impeachment proceedings against the dullard.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by AZeD1(m): 10:27am On Aug 04, 2015
barcanista:

So it also the responsibility of DSS to investigate robbery? This is why I am saying that some of you are pathetic. Who handled the assassination investigation of Funso Williams, Bola Ige andothers? Why didnt aggriveved ApC SINators tell the DSS to investigate the alleged forgery of Senate rules? You see why I always say some of you are the problems of Nigeria? Do you even have any clue on the role of DSS, NIA and DMI? That some clowns petition DSS to investigate a job that is within the powers of EFCC, ICPC and Police does not justify DSS' impunity. Also the DSS went there to "maintain law and order" which is clearly the mandate of Police.

Fyi: DsS is not alternative police nor a superior one.
If the DSS feels the robbery is a threat to national security, it is there responsibility to investigate it. They have blanket powers within Nigeria. All they have to do is to come up with a reason no matter how stupid and they are covered by the law.

c) Such other responsibilities affecting internal security within Nigeria as the National Assembly or the President: as the case may be:may deem necessary
The bold part is from the DSS website, note the part that says "as the case may deem necessary".
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Nobody: 10:28am On Aug 04, 2015
AZeD1:

The fight against Boko Haram has been handed over to the Nigerian Army and the multinational joint task force. Everyman and his dog knows that.
This is very funny. The army handles the operational fight, the DSS gathers intelligence and proactively foil attacks, and unearth hidden masterminds and sponsors, while the NIA takes care of external intelligence gathering. Haba...
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Mogidi: 10:28am On Aug 04, 2015
midolian:
my man, how u dey? grin

You see, I have got followers that will always share posts with me. There is no way I ld read some of their posts without replying...nd that's how I find myself on his threads some of the time.

Plus, sometimes, you ll jst want to see the kinda bashing he ll receive for opening an empty thread. I hope you now understand..Thanks

Bros I dey kamkpe, those sharing his post with you are actually doing you a favour. You can't go to a barcanista thread and not learn a thing or two.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by hinwazaka: 10:29am On Aug 04, 2015
socialmediaman:


I guess you didnt read the part where the PDP staff invited the DSS to interfer in its crisis against Metuh and NWC:

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2015/08/im-open-dss-probe-metuh-tells-pdp-staff/

When it borders state or national security, DSS is mandated to act. For instance, if someone gets robbed as a citizen or his office gets robbed, this is police business, but if the president's son gets robbed or let's say APC or PDP office gets robbed, this is high profile and DSS is mandated to act immediately, especially if there is reason to believe that this is connected to a larger scheme that affects or may affect national security. In the case of Dasuki, DSS believed he was part of a scheme to hamper the war against insurgency and destabilize national security etc, many of the issues raised by Barcanista are actually pointless to generate serious attention
I guess you didn't read Olisa Metuh's reaction against it and I guess you didn't see a move by disgruntled employees to align with the opposition through a body infiltrated by the opposition to get back at the individual company as funny. Also the PDP affair is basically a move by the PDP to clean house and get rid of family members of defectors, who are still loyal to their benefactors.
Believed to be a threat to national security, according to whom, that is the argument. Dasuki was not seen as a threat a weak before his retirement. But became one, the day his successor took over
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by zicoraads: 10:29am On Aug 04, 2015
Shaqhead...I will take you advice seriously. With a dictator cum 'democrat' in power, you just might never know when you will find yourself in an underground cell for airing your views cheesy cheesy

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by AZeD1(m): 10:32am On Aug 04, 2015
barcanista:

This is very funny. The army handles the operational fight, the DSS gathers intelligence and proactively foil attacks, and unearth hidden masterminds and sponsors, while the NIA takes care of external intelligence gathering. Haba...
Who said they aren't?
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by shaqhead: 10:35am On Aug 04, 2015
barcanista:

Fyi: DsS is not alternative police nor a superior one.
Lie no dey bitter for your mouth?
For the-purpose of facilitating the discharge of its functions under this Instrument, personnel of the State Security Service are hereby conferred with the powers of a SUPERIOR POLICE OFFICER in respect of searches and arrests.

It is highlighted in RED on the site!
https://dss.gov.ng/index.php/component/k2/item/49?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C7150153833

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Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by AZeD1(m): 10:35am On Aug 04, 2015
hinwazaka:

I guess you didn't read Olisa Metuh's reaction against it and I guess you didn't see a move by disgruntled employees to align with the opposition through a body infiltrated by the opposition to get back at the individual company as funny. Also the PDP affair is basically a move by the PDP to clean house and get rid of family members of defectors, who are still loyal to their benefactors.
Believed to be a threat to national security, according to whom, that is the argument. Dasuki was not seen as a threat a weak before his retirement. But became one, the day his successor took over
According to the DSS. The law gives them the right to do that. Oh by the way, it is one day Shekau became a threat to National security, the same way it would take Dasuki a day to become a threat.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Mogidi: 10:37am On Aug 04, 2015
AZeD1:

The DSS actually faulted by not stopping this early, something they are trying to do now that you are complaining.

Maybe you got me wrong, my complaint is that the DSS left their primary role of intelligence gathering. The article on page one detailed their obsession to please the incumbent at Aso rock rather than concentrate on the fight against terrorism. You'd agree, storming PDP offices and working as parallel EFCC officials is tantamount to giving boko haram unhindered access to bomb at will, boko haram has benefited from the resulting chaos.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by AZeD1(m): 10:39am On Aug 04, 2015
Mogidi:


Maybe you got me wrong, my complaint is that the DSS left their primary role of intelligence gathering. The article on page one details their obsession to please the incumbent at Aso rock rather than concentrate on the fight against terrorism. You'd agree, storming PDP offices and working as parallel EFCC officials is tantamount to giving boko haram unhindered access to bomb at will, boko haram has benefited from the resulting chaos.
No i don't agree. Its not like the DSS has only 10 officers.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by Mogidi: 10:40am On Aug 04, 2015
AZeD1:

According to the DSS. The law gives them the right to do that. Oh by the way, it is one day Shekau became a threat to National security, the same way it would take Dasuki a day to become a threat.

Wow!! bros you nailed it with the emboldened, flawless logic. I wonder why I've not been arrested, I could one day become a threat also.
Re: The Many Incredible Roles Of DSS Under President Muhammadu Buhari by shaqhead: 10:41am On Aug 04, 2015
zicoraads:
Shaqhead...I will take you advice seriously. With a dictator cum 'democrat' in power, you just might never know when you will find yourself in an underground cell for airing your views cheesy cheesy
Of course u should take it seriously cos when u cross d boundary between freedom of speech and National Security, the DSS wl come knocking cos its a thin line between both. Be guided!

Anywy since u ddnt respond to d meat of what I said, I wl assume that the facts has sunk in any other contrary comment from you and your ilks on ds misinformation wl be seen as nothin but worthless rants from the Wailers within the boundaries of freedom of speech. Have a Nice day!

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