Mikollon1:


No one will do it for you. You have to argue and fight for male rights every chance you get.

babygirlfl:


Most women I know that support gender equality appreciate that with rights comes responsibility. Apart from restriction from mother nature and biological make-up, I do not believe there should be any other difference in the way men and women are treated, their worth , the tasks and roles they do.

Mikollon1:


Sorry I keep the last word.

The technology is foreign indeed. Something that has been developed to the point it can fit into your jean's small pocket is now an expensive technology. Hope you know man went to the moon in the 60s with less technology that's in a basic electronic watch.

There's nothing rocket science about it. You'd be surprised how mundane it is. You can fly from lag to abj for less that 30k. The technology that 30k buys you is more than that required to do the test.
In my main post, I explained why it is overpriced. Even you sided with it cus feared a routine paternity test attitude will sow a discord in the home.

The cost of paternity test is DELIBERATELY bloated to discourage lots of men from affording the test. The authorities feel if the test turns negative, the woman and child will be made to go look for the real baby daddy which may be very cumbersome especially if she's still nursing the infant.

The government knows the burden will find it's way to their shoulders in the form of dealing with kids that are menaces to society, having to cater for more people in the poverty band, etc. The government doesn't want that extra headache.

The way France does this is to outlaw the test entirely.

It is that simple.

Kimoni:


Hope you now understand why politicians will rather keep praisemongers, an unbiased opinion is never easy on the ears.

ApexTitan:

If the Nigerian government was actively involved in social welfare like I mentioned earlier then your argument would have some merit

BuddhaPalm:


My brother, there's no one person called The Government. Just a bunch of people going in and out.

babygirlfl:


Your opinion was not actually an unbiased one. It was a very biased one. It was a combination of all the things you have read people write about feminists on Nairaland. Anyone who read your submissions with an open mind would see that all you wrote is what non feminists keep echoing in this section. There was really nothing new. The way you were bringing out things that was not part of the discussion made it look like you were writing what you thought people wanted to read yet you never addressed any of the issues raised. At some point it actually looked like you were writing for likes.

Please Kimoni, let's end the discussion or aguement here.

Mikollon1:


Read that quote over n over. If you still can't smell your ass after reading it then read it again. Read it till you smell your ass.

Kimoni:


I hate to get into these feminist arguments especially with females and Bukatyne knows that, not sure why she is drawing me into it.

Anyways, my honest answer - I don't know. I honestly don't know what you'all preach.

I see a lot of scattered arguments on feminist threads ending in swearings and curses. Then I see a lot of women who are very intolerant of other women who do not believe in the movement. Omotola once gave an interview declaring that she was not a feminist and how much she revered her husband and home. The abuses, insults, curses, image tarnishing she got on that thread from feminist was very appalling and honestly, I was very disappointed and if I had been having some doubts about the movement, that sealed it. I had to ask myself if the movement was some form of cult.

Since then, I have seen women, mostly singles and a few newly-weds who cannot understand why any woman will not be a feminist because according to them, they have come to liberate women from their controlling husbands. It doesn't matter if you say you are enjoying your marriage or you have spent years making a success of the marriage; to them, you need need the feminist deliverance as long as you believe in submission or headship. Duh

Strangely enough, I get amazed when NL feminist disown people I consider to be true feminists - ie people who want to be free to do anything a man can do. Eg the free the tips. Those are the ones who don't want to cherry pick. If men can bare their chest, they also want to. Isnt hindering them gender discrimination? So why do NL feminist think they have mental issues?

Strangely, I don't even know any feminist in real life, yet I am previledged to know a lot of women achievers offline. The first woman chemical engineer in Nigeria is someone I am previledged to listen and learn from, same with 3 female bank CEOs that I get mentoring from, and countless female executives. I have heard severally from these women, asked them enough questions , not once did I hear about this movement as being one of their success secrets. These are women that when you visit at home, you won't believe it's the same people you know in the office. In their respective homes, equality is a taboo.

Let me copy Damiso's trademark ending words to say, I didn't want to write an epistle o, but somehow, I have ended up writing one. Biko, no vex

Kimoni:


You finally spilled it.

Is this why you kept getting worked up? Because the likes were making you lose it? Do you realise I was replying from my mentions? You are in an open debate and you are counting likes?? Do you realise it's insulting to my person to say I was writing for likes? Who started the discussion? You or me?

Now you say it's an unbiased opinion? Will you also be the judge of what goes on in my heart? If something is not pleasant to you, it has to be an unbiased opinion??

Let me tell you something today.

One of my most respected nairalanders today is Kanwulia (I have never mentioned this nor shown it anywhere). But you know what is funny, she dislikes my tribe and she hates my faith with a passion. But yet, that has never blinded me from seeing the intelligence and comedy in her posts because I am able to compartmentalize my reading and thinking. I am able to distill whatever she writes and still see the message in it. And guess what, you will never see me jump in on her because she has desecrated my faith and I want to be seen by all as defending my it. And if you saw it, Jaybee told her exactly the same thing a while back, almost like he was reading my mind.

Again, she said something a while back - is NL for agreement of opinion?

What am I saying here Babygirl, I don't get worked up over people who share a different orientation from me. And if peradventure, one day, I decide to engage Kanwulia in a Christian debate, I would be more than ready to read whatever she has to say even when I know it won't be pleasing to me. But truly, I realise it takes a lot of discipline and maturity to get to this stage.

ApexTitan:


Splendid. Resort to insults because you are unable to advance a solid argument.

babygirlfl:


Now this is getting ridiculous. Likes is the last thing that will make me lose it in nairaland. Nothing makes me lose it here.You know why, people will like rubbish as long as they are on the persons side. And the easiest way to get a like in this section is to write rubbish against feminists. Really, Insult to your person? If you really want to know what insult is, go back to your posts. I started the discussion because I thought we could have a mature discussion but you quickly turned it into a fight. I honestly did not start it to cause any fights.

Please stop bringing people into this discussion. If you were accommodating of peoples view, it would show in our discussion. You were the one who kept insulting a group of people. I get along with many people who share different view to mine in this section. I have been in nairaland for a while and have not had to go into an insult fest with people. That's what it means to be accommodating and disciplined. I have had to ignore insults just so I don't get into an insult fest. Don't give what you cannot take. Just so you know, the truth is you are intolerant of other peoples view. So please stop thinking you actually do and playing the victim like you all always do.

Kimoni:


You finally spilled it.

Is this why you kept getting worked up? Because the likes were making you lose it? Do you realise I was replying from my mentions? You are in an open debate and you are counting likes?? Do you realise it's insulting to my person to say I was writing for likes? Who started the discussion? You or me?

Now you say it's an unbiased opinion? Will you also be the judge of what goes on in my heart? If something is not pleasant to you, it has to be an unbiased opinion??

Let me tell you something today.

One of my most respected nairalanders today is Kanwulia (I have never mentioned this nor shown it anywhere). But you know what is funny, she dislikes my tribe and she hates my faith with a passion. But yet, that has never blinded me from seeing the intelligence and comedy in her posts because I am able to compartmentalize my reading and thinking. I am able to distill whatever she writes and still see the message in it. And guess what, you will never see me jump in on her because she has desecrated my faith and I want to be seen by all as defending my it. And if you saw it, Jaybee told her exactly the same thing a while back, almost like he was reading my mind.

Again, she said something a while back - is NL for agreement of opinion?

What am I saying here Babygirl, I don't get worked up over people who share a different orientation from me. And if peradventure, one day, I decide to engage Kanwulia in a Christian debate, I would be more than ready to read whatever she has to say even when I know it won't be pleasing to me. But truly, I realise it takes a lot of discipline and maturity to get to this stage.

Kimoni:




This is getting more hilarious Babygirl. Playing the victims like I always do?

I can't even remember having a single fight with anyone ever in this family section. I repeat never ever.

So pray tell, where are those instances where I played the victim?? And pls for once, answer this question. I am really pleading. Point it out to me or better still, paste those threads here. As many as you can remember.

Mikollon1:


Argument I've advanced from page one to this current page?

Since you can't reason, I can't help you. Have you smelled your ass yet?

Keep it moving kid. I'm done having you used.

ApexTitan:


C'mon man. You really don't want to do this.

Nobody is buying your argument because what you are trying to do is fundamentally flawed. With this thread you are trying to import the anger and (genuine) concerns men in Western climes have into the Nigerian situation. It won't work. Right now it comes across as baseless conspiratorial bull but your desire to be some type of Pour Hommes activist beacon prevents you from seeing this.

I'm all for menfolk becoming aware of all the schemas that are at play in society at large even as it becomes increasingly femcentric. Any call for men to step up to the demands that their gender imposes on them and recover ground they've lost I will support, but this your argument right here? No way. Unfounded conspiratorial talk and FUD does not count as a call to awareness.

Kimoni:


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Mikollon1:


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Why the impersonation?

babygirlfl:


Now this is getting ridiculous. Likes is the last thing that will make me lose it in nairaland. Nothing makes me lose it here.You know why, people will like rubbish as long as they are on the persons side. And the easiest way to get a like in this section is to write rubbish against feminists. Like in the real world by family and special friends is what matters to me and not nairaland like.Really, Insult to your person? If you really want to know what insult is, go back to your posts. I started the discussion because I thought we could have a mature discussion but you quickly turned it into a fight. I honestly did not start it to cause any fights.

Please stop bringing people into this discussion. If you were accommodating of peoples view, it would show in our discussion. You were the one who kept insulting a group of people. I get along with many people who share different view to mine in this section. I have been in nairaland for a while and have not had to go into an insult fest with people. That's what it means to be accommodating and disciplined. I have had to ignore insults just so I don't get into an insult fest. Don't give what you cannot take. Just so you know, the truth is you are intolerant of other peoples view. So please stop thinking you actually do and playing the victim like you all always do.

njokusboy:


Lol, ladies and gentlemen, do u think dis lady is accommodating of our view considering the bolded?

TV01:

Who cares? But anyway, she is right, no one should write rubbish about feminists" - besides, you'll get way more likes for writing the truth about them - "nipple-freeing, free-bleeding, God-hating, rights without responsibilities seeking loonies" .


TV

Mikollon1:


eBay

It took me <60secs to get these pics.


I believe in gender equality. I believe women should have the same rights and RESPONSIBILITIES as men.

I've realised women want only the rights bit. We'll see!