lexiconkabir:
@truthman2012 a.k.a lieman. Since Angels deal with Allah personally, it is quite possible that Allah must have told them how he will create human race and what will happen thereafter, hence when Allah brings the discussion later on, the Angels now asked why would he create man that will cause havoc when they(Angels) are always ready in worship. now see where the Angels themselves declared that they have no knowledge except what Allah has taught them, (Sura2:32) "They(Angels) said: "Glorified are you, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. verily, it is you, the All-knower, the All-wise", now lets see if the God of the bible is wise, "The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled."(genesis6:6), so God of the bible do regrets and gets troubled? for someone to be all wise, he doesnt make mistakes not to talk of regretting the mistakes made, how wise!

truthman2012:
[Quran 2:30 Pickthal] And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said: Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: Surely I know that which ye know not.

The above was allahh's own narration of what transpired when he wanted to create man. His angels advised him not to do it as man will be rebellious and shed the blood of one another. Allah said no, the angels were wrong and that he knew better than them.

It turned out that his angels were correct afterall as what they said came to pass exactly so. We are all witnesses to how man have been shedding each others' blood. Ironically, allahh himself made many commands to shed the blood of infidels.

Is allahh wiser than his angels?

Is he all-knowing?

trapQ:
Allah is satan.. Be enlightened so you don't beg for mercy on the last day

truthman2012:
The question is so simple, I wonder why the irrelevant talks.

Allah wanted to create man, his angel advised him not to do so because they would be shedding each others blood. Allah said no, that he knows better than them.

Now we can see man shedding blood as foretold by the angels. Who was right: allahh or his angels? Period.

truthman2012:
[Quran 2:30 Pickthal] And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said: Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: Surely I know that which ye know not.

The above was allahh's own narration of what transpired when he wanted to create man. His angels advised him not to do it as man will be rebellious and shed the blood of one another. Allah said no, the angels were wrong and that he knew better than them.

It turned out that his angels were correct afterall as what they said came to pass exactly so. We are all witnesses to how man have been shedding each others' blood. Ironically, allahh himself made many commands to shed the blood of infidels.

Is allahh wiser than his angels?

Is he all-knowing?

lexiconkabir:
@truthman2012 a.k.a lieman. Since Angels deal with Allah personally, it is quite possible that Allah must have told them how he will create human race and what will happen thereafter, hence when Allah brings the discussion later on, the Angels now asked why would he create man that will cause havoc when they(Angels) are always ready in worship. now see where the Angels themselves declared that they have no knowledge except what Allah has taught them, (Sura2:32) "They(Angels) said: "Glorified are you, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. verily, it is you, the All-knower, the All-wise", now lets see if the God of the bible is wise, "The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled."(genesis6:6), so God of the bible do regrets and gets troubled? for someone to be all wise, he doesnt make mistakes not to talk of regretting the mistakes made, how wise!

bookceleb:
Thanks for the questions.
The angels were not and are not wiser than Allah.
what happened was that the jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam got created. and while they were on earth they shed many blood.
mind you satan is also a jinn and Allah commanded d angels to cleanse the earth driving away the jinns into rocks,trees,rivers etc. so when the angels heard that Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted. not that the angels knew the future,only Allah has that knowledge and the created things cannot be wiser than the Creator of things.guess you should know that.
Peace

bookceleb:


my answer is so simple too.
is not that the angels had prior knowledge.the angels only used analogy,making comparism with what the jinns did while on earth.

Allah is right.he knew what the angels knew not.
mind you even animals shed blood but the only difference is that they will not be held accountable i.e there is no paradise or hellfire for animals.

bookceleb:
Thanks for the questions.
The angels were not and are not wiser than Allah.
what happened was that the jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam got created. and while they were on earth they shed many blood.
mind you satan is also a jinn and Allah commanded d angels to cleanse the earth driving away the jinns into rocks,trees,rivers etc. so when the angels heard that Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted. not that the angels knew the future,only Allah has that knowledge and the created things cannot be wiser than the Creator of things.guess you should know that.
Peace

Rilwon:




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Owliver:
so you guys actually recorded this shitz huh? a conversation between angel and God. thats dope meeehn

Rilwon:


You gat jokes bruhh! mehuehehehe

Owliver:
not me meeehn. its the holy book meeehn

plappville:
Allah,, kuran,Muhammad, Islam muslim are all fabricated tales....hence so much confusion in the Koran.

Rilwon:


Mumu, who dey follow you laff

plappville:
Allah,, kuran,Muhammad, Islam muslim are all fabricated tales....hence so much confusion in the Koran.

Owliver:
so you guys actually recorded this shitz huh? a conversation between angel and God. thats dope meeehn

Owliver:
[s]Yes he is troubled. Note* God created us and gave us knoledge to choose between good and bad. if he had not given us knowledge we'd be like robots... and yes the islamic angel were wiser that the islamic God(allah) after all, we are killing ourselves down here na[/s]

truthman2012:


That is the post you have been anchoring your defence upon, right?

Your claims there are your own assumptions for lack of authoritative backings:

1. ''Jinns were already on the earth 2000 years before Adam was created'': let's have your source(s) from the quran or hadiths, not from any fable by any islamic clerics.

sources and references:
each verse of the Quran has causes of revelations.
this can all be found in the Tafsir of the Quran.
you can get Tafsir of the Quran by ibn kathir and read that verse.ul get your explanation there.

2. ''While they were on earth they shed many blood''. Give us your athentic source(s) or reference(s) to this as required above.

3. ''Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted'' This is untrue until you can prove 1& 2 above.

rabzy01:
[s]Is this god wiser, all knowing?

And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for I regrated that I have made them. Genesis 6:6-7.

And Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death: nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul: and the LORD regrated that he had made Saul king over Israel.[/s] 1 Samuel 15:35

Rilwon:

@bolded, I never hear am before o. Abegg, add sauce abi na source.

truthman2012:
[Quran 2:30 Pickthal] And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said: Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: Surely I know that which ye know not.

The above was allahh's own narration of what transpired when he wanted to create man. His angels advised him not to do it as man will be rebellious and shed the blood of one another. Allah said no, the angels were wrong and that he knew better than them.

It turned out that his angels were correct afterall as what they said came to pass exactly so. We are all witnesses to how man have been shedding each others' blood. Ironically, allahh himself made many commands to shed the blood of infidels.

Is allahh wiser than his angels?

Is he all-knowing?

truthman2012:


That is what you think it is.

Was it allahh who taught his angels to know better than himself by saying they know nothing except that which he taught them. The quran is so funny and laughable.

Allah's angels advised him but he refused unfortunately, the angels were correct afterall. How is that debunked. Let's hear you speak, I can never be tired of your insults.

Owliver:

rabzy01:
Is this god wiser, all knowing?

And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for I regrated that I have made them. Genesis 6:6-7.

And Samuel came no more to see Saul until the day of his death: nevertheless Samuel mourned for Saul: and the LORD regrated that he had made Saul king over Israel. 1 Samuel 15:35

Owliver:
lol. now its analogue abi? hahahahahahahaha. but the islamic god shunned the angels na, now see the angel's analogue style was right after all. shame on the islamic god hehehehehehehe

rabzy01:
It bafles me and beat my imagination that a Christian like OWLIVER will strike out verses from th"holy bible".

Is this not disrespect to the "words of God"?

To me is like tearing the bible and throwing it away.



that s why you see them seeking to misquote the Quran.just for mischief.
they dont respect their own Holybook.

bookceleb:


simple english.
ANALOGY.
where did you see analogue.
no na digital.
all you people want is mischief nothing more.

rabzy01:
It bafles me and beat my imagination that a Christian like OWLIVER will strike out verses from th"holy bible".

Is this not disrespect to the "words of God"?

To me is like tearing the bible and throwing it away.