[Quran 2:30 Pickthal] And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said: Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: Surely I know that which ye know not.

The above was allahh's own narration of what transpired when he wanted to create man. His angels advised him not to do it as man will be rebellious and shed the blood of one another. Allah said no, the angels were wrong and that he knew better than them.

It turned out that his angels were correct afterall as what they said came to pass exactly so. We are all witnesses to how man have been shedding each others' blood. Ironically, allahh himself made many commands to shed the blood of infidels.

Is allahh wiser than his angels?

Is he all-knowing?

truthman2012:
[Quran 2:30 Pickthal] And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said: Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: Surely I know that which ye know not.

The above was allahh's own narration of what transpired when he wanted to create man. His angels advised him not to do it as man will be rebellious and shed the blood of one another. Allah said no, the angels were wrong and that he knew better than them.

It turned out that his angels were correct afterall as what they said came to pass exactly so. We are all witnesses to how man have been shedding each others' blood. Ironically, allahh himself made many commands to shed the blood of infidels.

Is allahh wiser than his angels?

Is he all-knowing?

40 views, no muslim is capable of refutal. Serious!!!

The attributes of Islamic Allaah is exactly the attributes of SATAN in the bible!

By their fruits ye shalt know them"......

truthman2012:
[Quran 2:30 Pickthal] And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said: Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: Surely I know that which ye know not.

The above was allahh's own narration of what transpired when he wanted to create man. His angels advised him not to do it as man will be rebellious and shed the blood of one another. Allah said no, the angels were wrong and that he knew better than them.

It turned out that his angels were correct afterall as what they said came to pass exactly so. We are all witnesses to how man have been shedding each others' blood. Ironically, allahh himself made many commands to shed the blood of infidels.

Is allahh wiser than his angels?

Is he all-knowing?

Wao I never knew nor heard of this. Oh my God, thank God you are Jehovah, the Almighty God, the one that says and it come to pass, the all knowing God.
But for Allah?
That means the christian God which is all knowing is not the same with the Islamic Allah in which the angels are wiser than.

myproperty:

Wao I never knew nor heard of this. Oh my God, thank God you are Jehovah, the Almighty God, the one that says and it come to pass, the all knowing God.
But for Allah?
That means the christian God which is all knowing is not the same with the Islamic Allah in which the angels are wiser than.

In fact allahh declared himself different from Yahweh:

[Quran 109:1-6] Say: O disbelievers! (i.e Jews and Christians who believe not in allahh).

I worship not that which ye worship;

Nor worship ye that which I worship.

And I shall not worship that which ye worship.

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

ZKOSOSO:
The attributes of Islamic Allaah is exactly the attributes of SATAN in the bible!

By their fruits ye shalt know them"......

Yes o !

Thanks for the questions.
The angels were not and are not wiser than Allah.
what happened was that the jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam got created. and while they were on earth they shed many blood.
mind you satan is also a jinn and Allah commanded d angels to cleanse the earth driving away the jinns into rocks,trees,rivers etc. so when the angels heard that Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted. not that the angels knew the future,only Allah has that knowledge and the created things cannot be wiser than the Creator of things.guess you should know that.
Peace

bookceleb:
Thanks for the questions.
The angels were not and are not wiser than Allah.
what happened was that the jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam got created. and while they were on earth they shed many blood.
mind you satan is also a jinn and Allah commanded d angels to cleanse the earth driving away the jinns into rocks,trees,rivers etc. so when the angels heard that Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted. not that the angels knew the future,only Allah has that knowledge and the created things cannot be wiser than the Creator of things.guess you should know that.
Peace

based on your explanation. I want to ask you few questions. 1. You say that jinns that were on earth shed more blood. Who were those being whose blood was shed? Were they Jinns or another being? Why were they killed?

bookceleb:
Thanks for the questions.
The angels were not and are not wiser than Allah.
what happened was that the jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam got created. and while they were on earth they shed many blood.
mind you satan is also a jinn and Allah commanded d angels to cleanse the earth driving away the jinns into rocks,trees,rivers etc. so when the angels heard that Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted. not that the angels knew the future,only Allah has that knowledge and the created things cannot be wiser than the Creator of things.guess you should know that.
Peace

Your defence is glaring LIES. Muslims employ lies to defend the quran which is a bundle of lies itself. It take lying to justify lies.

Allah was yet to create man when the matter came up, whose blood were the jinns shedding on earth before Adam was created?

Satan, a jinn with other evil jinns in islam did not start doing evil things like shedding of blood until he (satan) refused to prostrate for Adam. I mean some jinns became disobedient to allahh after satan's refusal to prostrate for Adam. Why did you say they were on earth shedding non-existent human blood?

truthman2012:


Your defence is glaring LIES. Muslims employ lies to defend the quran which is a bundle of lies itself. It take lying to justify lies.

Allah was yet to create man when the matter came up, whose blood were the jinns shedding on earth before Adam was created?

Satan, a jinn with other evil jinns in islam did not start doing evil things like shedding of blood until he (satan) refused to prostrate for Adam. I mean some jinns became disobedient to allahh after satan's refusal to prostrate for Adam. Why did you say they were on earth shedding non-existent human blood?

can u re-read my post?
i said d jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam was created. d jinns were killing themselves on earth n not man.man was not in existence by then.

bookceleb:
Thanks for the questions.
The angels were not and are not wiser than Allah.
what happened was that the jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam got created. and while they were on earth they shed many blood.
mind you satan is also a jinn and Allah commanded d angels to cleanse the earth driving away the jinns into rocks,trees,rivers etc. so when the angels heard that Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted. not that the angels knew the future,only Allah has that knowledge and the created things cannot be wiser than the Creator of things.guess you should know that.
Peace

don't waste your time with the lonely oldman

tartar9:
don't waste your time with the lonely oldman

yea i can see that.he even said im lying.
but its only prudent i explain the verse to them.
they only want mischief

tartar9:
don't waste your time with the lonely oldman

You call it a waste of time because you have no defence.

bookceleb:


yea i can see that.he even said im lying.
but its only prudent i explain the verse to them.
they only want mischief

You know clearly yourself that you are lying based on my reply to your post.

No mischief, we are only trying to open your eyes to the falsehood of islam for you to accept the TRUTH, Jesus Christ.

Are we saying that jinns have blood? If they do, we should be able to see them with our eyes because then they would be physical like man is.


We all know that is not so...

truthman2012:


You know clearly yourself that you are lying based on my reply to your post.

No mischief, we are only trying to open your eyes to the falsehood of islam for you to accept the TRUTH, Jesus Christ.

you cant giv what you dont have.open your own eyes first.
if im lying,state d truth.its an easy thing to do.

proo212:
Are we saying that jinns have blood? If they do, we should be able to see them with our eyes because then they would be physical like man is.


We all know that is not so...

d jinns can be seen,the samevway angels can be seen but just that it will not be in their actual form.
your bible told you a jinn by name Satan appeared to Adam as a serpent or you dont believ the Bible too

bookceleb:

you cant giv what you dont have.open your own eyes first. if im lying,state d truth.its an easy thing to do.

Answer the question na!
Who were the humans whose blood were shed by jinns before Adam was created?

truthman2012:


Answer the question na!

Who were the humans whose blood were shed by jinns before Adam was created?

oldman, did he say human? bookceleb dont mind this man

@truthman2012 a.k.a lieman. Since Angels deal with Allah personally, it is quite possible that Allah must have told them how he will create human race and what will happen thereafter, hence when Allah brings the discussion later on, the Angels now asked why would he create man that will cause havoc when they(Angels) are always ready in worship. now see where the Angels themselves declared that they have no knowledge except what Allah has taught them, (Sura2:32) "They(Angels) said: "Glorified are you, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. verily, it is you, the All-knower, the All-wise", now lets see if the God of the bible is wise, "The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled."(genesis6:6), so God of the bible do regrets and gets troubled? for someone to be all wise, he doesnt make mistakes not to talk of regretting the mistakes made, how wise!

truthman2012:


Answer the question na!

Who were the humans whose blood were shed by jinns before Adam was created?

nawa o..
i dont know howelse to explain the verse to you.
please calm down and read it over again.
May God Almighty guide you aright

lexiconkabir:
oldman, did he say human? bookceleb dont mind this man

Kabir?
my namesake.
dont mind thruthman,they only love mischief.
i dont know howelse to explain it to him,i already told him the Tafsir of the verse

bookceleb:


can u re-read my post?
i said d jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam was created. d jinns were killing themselves on earth n not man.man was not in existence by then.

im quoting myself again for you truthman

Islamic angels are.......doing d deeds of allah
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bookceleb:


Kabir?

yes Kabir

my namesake.

very pleased to meet you!

dont mind truthman,they only love mischief.
i dont know how else to explain it to him,i already told him the Tafsir of the verse

well said!

lexiconkabir:
yes Kabir
very pleased to meet you!
well said!

my pleasure bro

lexiconkabir:
oldman, did he say human? bookceleb dont mind this man

mr kabir, your mate said jinn shed blood then it mean that jinns are not spirit because spirit have no blood and flesh. But for mohamMAd to covered his stupidity he has to lied to his people like you, then does it mean that isis,al nisra, boko haram, alshabab, taliban, alquada, al mujahedeen , hamas, hazebollah and you are jinns because they are all shedding blood or that tragedy that occured in mina of saudi are caused by shaytan since shaytan is a jinn..

jcross19:
mr kabir, your mate said jinn shed blood then it mean that jinns are not spirit because spirit have no blood and flesh. [s]But for mohamMAd to covered his stupidity he has to lied to his people like you[/s], then does it mean that isis,al nisra, boko haram, alshabab, taliban, alquada, al mujahedeen , hamas, hazebollah and you are jinns because they are all shedding blood or that tragedy that occured in mina of saudi are caused by shaytan since shaytan is a jinn..

mr jcross, jinns can kill themselves, when we say "shed blood", does it necessarily have to mean the red thick blood literally? nay! click here to see types of jinn. i have answered the op, check my second post on this thread(the next comment after this one you quoted). pls always check what you typed before submitting.

jcross19:
mr kabir, your mate said jinn shed blood then it mean that jinns are not spirit because spirit have no blood and flesh. But for mohamMAd to covered his stupidity he has to lied to his people like you, then does it mean that isis,al nisra, boko haram, alshabab, taliban, alquada, al mujahedeen , hamas, hazebollah and you are jinns because they are all shedding blood or that tragedy that occured in mina of saudi are caused by shaytan since shaytan is a jinn..

God has four creations: man,animals,angels and jinns. all these four have their various forms. d jinns are made from fire, while man was made from clay likewise the animals,and the angels were created from light.
the occurrence at Saudi was a tragedy which was not caused by Shaytan.and it could happen anywhere or you did not know when it happened at a church here in nigeria at SCOAN.the church of Pastor T.B Joshua.
and insulting our Prophet shows how shallow you are.
Peace

Allah is satan

ZKOSOSO:
The attributes of Islamic Allaah is exactly the attributes of SATAN in the bible!

By their fruits ye shalt know them"......

Allah is satan.. Be enlightened so you don't beg for mercy on the last day

bookceleb:
Thanks for the questions.
The angels were not and are not wiser than Allah.
what happened was that the jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam got created. and while they were on earth they shed many blood.
mind you satan is also a jinn and Allah commanded d angels to cleanse the earth driving away the jinns into rocks,trees,rivers etc. so when the angels heard that Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted. not that the angels knew the future,only Allah has that knowledge and the created things cannot be wiser than the Creator of things.guess you should know that.
Peace

lexiconkabir:
@truthman2012 a.k.a lieman. Since Angels deal with Allah personally, it is quite possible that Allah must have told them how he will create human race and what will happen thereafter, hence when Allah brings the discussion later on, the Angels now asked why would he create man that will cause havoc when they(Angels) are always ready in worship. now see where the Angels themselves declared that they have no knowledge except what Allah has taught them, (Sura2:32) "They(Angels) said: "Glorified are you, we have no knowledge except what you have taught us. verily, it is you, the All-knower, the All-wise", now lets see if the God of the bible is wise, "The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled."(genesis6:6), so God of the bible do regrets and gets troubled? for someone to be all wise, he doesnt make mistakes not to talk of regretting the mistakes made, how wise!

so you guys actually recorded this shitz huh? a conversation between angel and God. thats dope meeehn