bookceleb:
Thanks for the questions.
The angels were not and are not wiser than Allah.
what happened was that the jinns were already on earth 2000years before Adam got created. and while they were on earth they shed many blood.
mind you satan is also a jinn and Allah commanded d angels to cleanse the earth driving away the jinns into rocks,trees,rivers etc. so when the angels heard that Allah wanted to create man and send man to live on earth again that was why the angels asked the question in the verse you quoted. not that the angels knew the future,only Allah has that knowledge and the created things cannot be wiser than the Creator of things.guess you should know that.
Peace

rabzy01:
If only that you are a little bit not lazy, you would have found out that your question has been answered by the angels themselves in 2:32 thus:

They (the angels) said, "Exalted are You; we have no knowledge except what You have taught us. Indeed, it is You who is the Knowing, the Wise." Al-Baqara (2:32)

Owliver:
was the allah right or wrong?? are we not killing each other as said by the angel?

bookceleb:


killing is a sin.
When Cain killed Abel,two birds had to be sent so he will know what to do.so when one bird killed the other,it dug the ground and buried it.
thats where we learnt to bury our dead.
animals too kill each other,jinns too kill eachother so also we humans kill eachother.
its only the angels that dont kill eachother and this is why angels have no accountability because they always obey God.
WE HUMANS HAVE FREEWILL. thats why we commit various sins which killing is one major sin

Sheenor:


First i want a verse from quran that back this your claim... Second, note that the Satan and its agents where all thrown to earth when he Satan refuse to prostrate for Adam when God ask him to. So where do you get your version of Satan and its agent (Jin) been on earth 2,000 years before Adam creation

lexiconkabir:
i seriously dont know your problem, the same angels you are trying to give high esteem than Allah, is telling you that Allah taught them all they know, so why dont you leave these angels alone? abi na by force to take panadol on top another person headache? hian! issorite.

Owliver:
beating around the bush as usual. admit it man its not rocket science. that angel was right and the islamic god(lallah) was wrong according to that passage quoted.

truthman2012:


I have already debunked that.

How could you say allahh taught the angels when can see that they are wiser than him?

bookceleb:


thanks for your time.
it was when the angels came down on earth at the command of God to cleanse the earth of the jinns who were killing eachother that they saw Satan who was a jinn too. the angels grew fond of Satan and took him back to heaven.
Adam was not created yet at that time.
and it was Adam and Eve that were casted out of heaven for their disobedient of eating the forbidden friut.
as i hav said earlier all Quran verses have causes of revelations which can be found in Tafsir.

bookceleb:


thanks for your time.
it was when the angels came down on earth at the command of God to cleanse the earth of the jinns who were killing eachother that they saw Satan who was a jinn too. the angels grew fond of Satan and took him back to heaven.
Adam was not created yet at that time.
and it was Adam and Eve that were casted out of heaven for their disobedient of eating the forbidden friut.
as i hav said earlier all Quran verses have causes of revelations which can be found in Tafsir.

truthman2012:


Angels saying things contrary to what we actually see happened shows the quran is religious manipulations.

bookceleb:


howelse can this be explained to you.
even a layman will understand all i have said because its so glaring.
in the same chapter you guys are quoting,the angels answered your questions.

lexiconkabir:
and what did the angels say that is contrary to what we actually see?

Owliver:
you guys dont think with ur own brains ni? use ur brain bros na. why use the koran to back up the koran. does not make sense mr man. use your medular jare..... was the angel right or wrong? give me an answer yes/no

Owliver:
[s]asked them oooh. the next verse or so says the angel admitted the islamic god(lallah) is all knowledgable... but it appears the angel was right after all. we are killing each other. this is funny meeeehn[/s]

lexiconkabir:
and show me the place where Allah said they were wrong!

lexiconkabir:
mr man, you are confused!

lexiconkabir:
and what did the angels say that is contrary to what we actually see?

Owliver:
you guys dont think with ur own brains ni? use ur brain bros na. why use the koran to back up the koran. does not make sense mr man. use your medular jare..... was the angel right or wrong? give me an answer yes/no

bookceleb:


when you dont succeed in your mischief,you resort to insults.
shows how your own medular works.

Owliver:
so why did he shun them if they were right? why did he say he knows morethan them? the god should be ashamed cos the angel will be like "I told him he didnt listen" LOOOOOOOL

truthman2012:


We see allahh who refused the advice of the angels is wrong at last. How could allahh have taught them and now they know better than him. Is that not contradictory?

truthman2012:


We see allahh who refused the advice of the angels is wrong at last. How could allahh have taught them and now they know better than him. Is that not contradictory?

lexiconkabir:
they were asking him a question, not telling him what to do. so allah is telling them that even at that, he sees what they see not. is that too hard to understand?

bookceleb:


God has four creations: man,animals,angels and jinns. all these four have their various forms. d jinns are made from fire, while man was made from clay likewise the animals,and the angels were created from light.
the occurrence at Saudi was a tragedy which was not caused by Shaytan.and it could happen anywhere or you did not know when it happened at a church here in nigeria at SCOAN.the church of Pastor T.B Joshua.
and insulting our Prophet shows how shallow you are.
Peace

Owliver:
its not a question mr man. its an objection. an objection. what did he see tell me? was the angel right or wrong after all? call a spade a spade

lexiconkabir:
pa truthman, was that an advice or a question? read that verse again.

lexiconkabir:
and show me the place where Allah said they were wrong!

lexiconkabir:
chai! so you dont know a question when you see one?

lexiconkabir:
mr jcross, jinns can kill themselves, when we say "shed blood", does it necessarily have to mean the red thick blood literally? nay! click here to see types of jinn. i have answered the op, check my second post on this thread(the next comment after this one you quoted). pls always check what you typed before submitting.

Owliver:
ok lets a ;Dssume its a question. if the islamic god knows better, why is the angel justified even after being termed as "less knowledgable"??

jcross19:
" shed blood" only exist in human realm okay mr alfa if your allah is confused and mohamMAD is gullible. Blood carries the nuitrent of the flesh and nourish it so tell me did jinn have earthly body?.