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Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by chinnyonwu(m): 7:34am On Oct 15, 2015 |
freecocoa:Kai!! Can i buy you a drink? the God of the Bible is sooooo clueless. I've said this a million times. Im genuinely suprised when christians claim they have found "peace" "joy" "happiness" serving him. And that he is "righteous" "just" ... like WTF.? |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by chinnyonwu(m): 7:47am On Oct 15, 2015 |
An2elect2:See? They always claim to have some intrinsic knowledge about the whole mysterious skydaddy. They enjoy things they do not fully understand. They also confidently back up their Skydaddy argument with some oporobious jagbajantical claim that makes zero sense- occasionally drawing references from the Bible. I cant really explain it cos when i was a Christian myself i said similar stuff. I look back now in retrospect and i am amazed how stupid i must've sounded. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by Nobody: 7:57am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Antiparticle: The idea sounds really cool. I hope you will find the time. Maybe it/they care actually, but not enough to let me know that it/they care. How do you want him/her/they to let you know it? I use that term loosely to refer to god(s) with whom a human can build a mutual relationship. Or god(s) that claim it/they want to have a relationship with individual humans. What is the relationship supposed to look like? |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by Antiparticle(m): 8:13am On Oct 15, 2015 |
Mindfulness:Actually if god(s) exist and it/they care to let me know it, then it/they would know the ways best to reach me. I am actually now less curious about hypothetical god(s) than I am about aliens. Yet, I don't go around hoping for aliens to find a way to contact me. So there's this common assumption that if god(s) exist, it/they'd want to contact us. Why would it/they? It is possible that the god(s) that exist (if it/they indeed exist) don't give a crap about us. Mindfulness:I'm not sure, though Christianity is supposedly about a relationship with God the Father and Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit supposedly dwells in the heart of Christians and is supposed to communicate with them and tell them things. Obviously, I think this is all a delusory scam (that I for a long time bought into). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by Nobody: 12:29pm On Oct 15, 2015 |
Antiparticle: How would you want God to contact you? I'm not sure, though Christianity is supposedly about a relationship with God the Father and Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit supposedly dwells in the heart of Christians and is supposed to communicate with them and tell them things. Obviously, I think this is all a delusory scam (that I for a long time bought into). I don't think so. Pay attention to your breathing. This is what I call spirit. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by DeepSight(m): 3:42pm On Oct 15, 2015 |
@Antiparticle. There is talent in your writing. Use it NOW. However, you need to reflect again on the question of God. I am shocked that you say that you don't understand the word "spiritual" Whats the problem kind sir? |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:37pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
DeepSight: There was nothing excellent about antiparticle 's response to your post . Its like giving a carnivorous animal flesh to eat and then praise it for eating . A much better question would have been : Why does he think a theist/deist is certain about the existence of God ? |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by waldigit: 9:36pm On Oct 25, 2015 |
keenn: how do you come by the power you use to help urself as well as others |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by keenn: 10:13pm On Oct 26, 2015 |
waldigit: Just the way Aldoph hitler came by his power |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by waldigit: 7:35am On Oct 27, 2015 |
keenn: Hitler's power is from the devil, remember he was tagged antiChrist in Nostradamus prophecy. So then you see you still need help no matter how great you perceive yourself to be. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by keenn: 8:58am On Oct 27, 2015 |
waldigit: Suddenly, over 6million jews were killed, this excludes those with physical challenges, contrary religion believers, pacifist... If the devil can at will, cause such disastrous genocide- world-over without a creator that cares interference that claims omni-omni then that's unfair. Nevertheless, the justification of right and wrong is and should not be attributed to supernatural. Its just human nature |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by waldigit: 10:11am On Oct 27, 2015 |
keenn:That I tell you is the mystery of the Gospel. Devil has been given power to kill, steal and destroy within the framework of Gods Purpose on earth. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by waldigit: 10:15am On Oct 27, 2015 |
keenn:That I tell you is the mystery of the Gospel. Devil has been given power to kill, steal and destroy within the framework of Gods Purpose on earth. Your lovely world is its way to trash bin. Devil is only assisting to quicken the process. But there is hope on Jesus Christ, if only you give it a try. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by Living4christ(m): 12:11pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
God is great and powerful he reigns. Are you so blind that you can not even see the brightest light, at least your skin should feel it and know that he exist, the miracles, the signs, the wonders, what do you say about that? God exist and he lives in me. Go to the father he forgives and saves.
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Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by keenn: 2:27pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
waldigit: '...within the framework of Gods purpose?' That's preposterous. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by waldigit: 9:33pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
keenn: It doesnt have to be. That is why we have not all been consumed. That is also why you hear about what they call MIRACLE. That is why science is given some degree of success. That is why Christ was made manifest |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by keenn: 7:50am On Oct 28, 2015 |
waldigit: We have not been consume would mean? If it means been alive, then that I disagree. The continuation of live as we live it is base on cheer chance and not grace. If u think its by grace- which the biblical account claim is sufficient why not walk eye close across a busy road. That's why we all hear about miracles, because you and I havnt seen one- first hand miracle Yes, science is mans intervention. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by waldigit: 1:04pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
keenn: But many who have two eyes perfectly working for them have been knocked down by moving vehicle. Was that chioce or luck |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by waldigit: 1:05pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
keenn: But many who have two eyes perfectly working for them have been knocked down by moving vehicle. Was that choice or luck |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by keenn: 3:33pm On Oct 28, 2015 |
waldigit: U can name it anything, but it aint lack of grace |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by blank(f): 11:38am On Nov 13, 2015 |
dalaman: That is a big lie!!!! He has always said that as a holder of a doctorate in molecular biology, science has proven to be mor e on the side of creationists than atheists think. Just because he has deactivated doesn't mean you should lie. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by dalaman: 12:27pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
blank: Every body that lmow davidylan knows his position. He jas clearly stated his doubts and has also clearly stated that the bible os to be accepted purely on faith. Ask people like logicboy and plaetton that have debated him over the years. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by blank(f): 12:38pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
dalaman: I have followed him over the years and i know that is not his position. It shows that people only hear what they want to hear. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by dalaman: 12:42pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
blank: He has deactivated his account else I would have provided you with direct quotes from him. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by plaetton: 1:08pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
blank: That is his position. And I respect him for that. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by plaetton: 1:11pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
blank: It is not a lie. He said it during one of our numerous debates. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by blank(f): 2:21pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
plaetton: And i am saying you misunderstood him. Hearing only what you wanted to hear. The Bible does not sound logical to human reasoning but you need the Holy Spirit to understand that it makes sense from a logical perspective. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by plaetton: 2:30pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
blank: This is what I find very troubling and perplexing about religio-heads. You were not witness to an event that happened right here in this public forum. I was . Now, due to pride or cognitive dissonance, you are now telling us, insulting us, that we didn't read what we read, a post I assume you never read. What king of complex ignorance and arrogance is this. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by blank(f): 3:06pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
plaetton: I am sorry to have insulted you but i did read all of it. That i don't comment in religion section doesn't mean that i don't read it. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:24pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
@dalaman plaetton and blank From Davidylan :
At this point... i should be going to have some fun... please let me know when you guys have come up with a coherent scientific answer for why you exist other than the typical "i dont know"... i'm really interested. While you're at it, can you scientifically explain why there is no life on Mars even though most of the same physical laws here are also applicable there? Just curious... i'd like to move there sometime.
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Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by plaetton: 4:03pm On Nov 13, 2015 |
blank:If you did read it, then kindly post it here to shame us. In fact, davidylan wrote many things, Amongst them, that no right thinking person should take most of the fables in the bible seriously. He said that as a Christian, however, he takes them on faith alone. |
Re: My Fellow Agnostic And Atheist, What If We Got It All Wrong? by UyiIredia(m): 2:26am On Nov 14, 2015 |
keenn: Just because things work for you as an atheist doesn't justify atheism. The Bible says: Proverbs 14:23 In all labour there is profit: but the talk of the lips tendeth only to penury. So if you work you will chop. As for evil it doesn't remove the fact that God exists no less than Hitler being evil doesn't make him imaginary. Evil FROM GOD stands contrary to God's goodness. The smart thing to do would be to surrender just as you already do to the physical world. When fire cooks your food you enjoy it. If it burns you, you dislike it. Do you stop using fire since it burns ? Obviously not. So why behave differently with God ? Because He is a person ? That's ill-thought. People do good and bad to you all the time, you parents for instance. Do you hate them for that no. Don't be twisted by mockery who will have you focus only on God's malevolence. His benevolence far outweighs that the life, death and rebirth of Christ seals that and the presence of free-will shows it. 1 Like |
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