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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:11am On Aug 06, 2016 |
EkeneElectrons: Maybe you did not read the link because your governing body has not approved of it. My friend, shine your eyes and set yourself free from this bondage. It is my prayer that the Holy Spirit (Not the Governing Body) will open the eyes of your understanding to see the light of the glorious gospel of Christ and be free indeed. "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them" (2 Corinthians 4:4). Question: "What is the definition of a cult?" |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by paulGrundy(m): 10:53am On Aug 06, 2016 |
EkeneElectrons: I believed it because it was backed up with evidence, which I checked and confirmed to be true. E.g I came to understand that Cults are groups that use mind control methods (guilt and fear) to maintain and control members. Members are told that their group is the only way, and whatever that is taught should be accepted without questioning. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by EkeneElectrons(m): 12:22pm On Aug 06, 2016 |
paulGrundy: MR MAN everytime they tell us to think about what we are learning and see if it's true, you don't just go read stuffs you see online because you don't know what's happening...if you like serve jehovah, if you like don't serve him, his not FORCING anybody, neither are we FORCING anybody. all we have to do is obey his commandments and gain everlasting life he has promised us according to the SCRIPTURES and it's impossible for God to lie, if you like obey, if you like don't, if you like follow what is written online in satan's world, if you like don't. when the end comes, you will see it. case closed. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by paulGrundy(m): 2:27pm On Aug 06, 2016 |
EkeneElectrons: Glad you know that! And I also wish that you know that NO man or organization can replace Jesus as mediator/link between man and God, knowing this will help you understand the Real truth without pre-meditated bias of men who self appointed themselves to govern Jehovahs children because of their pocket. You said the end will come abi? Please when?? 1975? 2016? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:24pm On Aug 06, 2016 |
paulGrundy: If their governing body could get those dates wrong I wonder why he is so sure that they cannot be wrong on what they are teaching him now. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 7:47am On Aug 08, 2016 |
The jw cult don't believe this: Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In the beginning God created.... (Gen 1:1) All things were made by Him-the Word (Joh 1:3) without the Word nothing was made that was made, therefor the Word was not made (Joh 1:3) the Word is God (Joh 1:1) 1 Like
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 7:50am On Aug 08, 2016 |
The jw cult don't believe this: The Messiah-Christ is called God: Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. He is said to be God with us: Isa_7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (God with us). The Messiah-Christ is called Jehovah: Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD (Jehovah) OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. Click for more 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:59pm On Aug 23, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: 4. Objection 4. Jesus Is Not All-Knowing: Some cults argue that because Jesus said no one knows the day or hour of His return except the Father (Mark 13:32), Jesus must not be all-knowing and hence must not be truly God. In response, Jesus in the Gospels sometimes spoke from the perspective of His divinity and at other times from the perspective of His humanity (Philipians 2:5-11). Had He been speaking from His divinity, He would not have said He did not know the day or hour. Other verses show that Christ, as God, knows all things (Matthew 17:27; Luke 5:4-6; John 2:25; 16:30; 21:17). https://www.nairaland.com/531625/evidence-deity-christ/15 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 8:05am On Aug 24, 2016 |
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: the Word Jesus Christ is the exact image and equal to God Can anyone be equal with God other than another person who is also God Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. only God can equal God God = God man = man 10 = 10 and so on etc. etc. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:39pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Objection 5. Jesus Prayed: Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God. Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father. Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer. Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father. But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by johnw74: 5:52am On Sep 08, 2016 |
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Jesus is in the form of God, He is exactly like Him. And Jesus thinking it not robbery to be equal with God, is just another way of saying that He is equal to God. Jesus is exactly like God, and is equal to God, Jesus is God, God and the Word is God John 1:1. Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: The word that firstborn comes from is "prōtotokos" it can be literal "firstborn" or it can be figurative " I believe it's figurativer, because to continue on with what Paul was saying shows why He is the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: He is firstborn of every creature and thing, not because He was born, but because: by him were all things created, that is why He is firstborn - foremost, before, every creature and thing, because He created them. also, just another point, all things cannot be created by Him if He was created, that's why false jw add "other" to the verse and falsely say: "all other things" in both places of that verse, just like they add "a" to God in John 1:1 Such an evil thing to change what God say's. Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:53am On Sep 12, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Objection 6. The Trinity Is Illogical: Some cults claim the Trinity is illogical ("three in one" ). In response, the Trinity does not entail three gods in one God, or three persons in one person. Such claims would be nonsensical. There is nothing contradictory, however, in affirming three persons in one God (or three whos in one what). |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:29pm On Sep 14, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Objection 7. The Trinity Is Pagan Some cults have claimed the doctrine of the Trinity is rooted in ancient paganism in Babylon and Assyria. In response, the Babylonians and Assyrians believed in triads of gods who headed up a pantheon of many other gods. These triads constituted three separate gods (polytheism), which is utterly different from the doctrine of Trinity that maintains that there is only one God (monotheism) with three persons within the one Godhead. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:07pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:34am On Mar 18, 2017 |
Russians work to eradicate JW from their borders http://www.charismanews.com/world/63695-russians-work-to-eradicate-christian-cult-from-their-borders |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:01pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Jayphizzy: Good observation. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:02am On Apr 10, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Succinct. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:47pm On May 04, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: "If Jesus is God, then who did He pray to?" This is a very common question. See the answer at carm.org |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 7:48pm On May 04, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:What sort of GIBBERISH is Oga OLA typing again? You worship 3 deities, you call "3 persons". You said Jesus is a human being in heaven. You worship 1 human being in heaven. You worship a spirit being you call 'Father'. And Another deity you call "holy ghost". Oga OLA you are a polytheist deceiving yourself. OLAADEGBU:Oga OLA Very CROOKED, STUPID, FAULTY ANALOGY Crooked Trinitarians, Does time have nature? No !!!!!! Is Time a being? No !! Is Time 3 persons? No !! Time is abstract. Time has no parts. God is a spirit. Spirits do NOT have 3 parts. Trinity shege OLAADEGBU:Oga OLAADEGBU deity is praying to 2 other parts of themselves,"my Gods my Gods why have you forsaken us?". OLAADEGBU:Matthew 24:36, Oga OLAADEGBU deity with him 'divine nature' doesn't know somethings . OLAADEGBU GOD wey no know somethings |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 8:26pm On May 04, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU:Go to Biblehub & check these scriptures there & cure your delusion. Your fellow 3 deities devotees translators DISAGREED just as @ Matthew 4:10 & Mark 12:29 Jesus Christ DISAGREED. OLAADEGBU:Oga,stop LYING on this public forum. Paul "call on" Ceasar, the word "call on" is not prayer. Check the same Greek lexicon used by Paul & Stephen OLAADEGBU:The Hebrew Masoretic Text of Psalms 45:6-7 is the nemesis of your false claim. Your Bible is showing exclamation @ John 20:28 "oh my God!" or "oh my Lord!" , this expression of Thomas surprise does NOT in anyway connote or reference your false claim. @ John 20:17 Jesus Christ proven his God is the same God of Thomas. Oga OLAADEGBU says the God of John 20:17 is different from another God he attach to John 20:28. [b]Hosea 12:3-4 Angel is called "God" Hosea 12:3-4 dismissed your claim on John 20:28. OLAADEGBU:He is a Son in the spiritual as well as the physical. Revelation 3:5,12,21 Jesus said so. OLAADEGBU:Yes. OLAADEGBU:Matthew 24:36, Jesus Christ says you are LYING. Jesus does NOT know somethings. Na Jesus talk am. OLAADEGBU:Matthew 28:18 Jesus was given that authority to do so. OLAADEGBU:In heaven Where Jesus is a life giving spirit. OLAADEGBU:Which of these did God his Father do ? Absolutely none ! The only true God is his Father & our Father OLAADEGBU:Jesus prayed to his God, Matthew 27:46. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:31am On May 07, 2022 |
Janosky: Objection 6: The Trinity Is Illogical: Some cults claim the Trinity is illogical ("three in one" ). In response, the Trinity does not entail three gods in one God, or three persons in one person. Such claims would be nonsensical. There is nothing contradictory, however, in affirming three persons in one God (or three whos in one what). |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:41am On May 07, 2022 |
Janosky: Objection 7: The Trinity Is Pagan Some cults have claimed the doctrine of the Trinity is rooted in ancient paganism in Babylon and Assyria. In response, the Babylonians and Assyrians believed in triads of gods who headed up a pantheon of many other gods. These triads constituted three separate gods (polytheism), which is utterly different from the doctrine of Trinity that maintains that there is only one God (monotheism) with three persons within the one Godhead. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:45pm On May 13, 2022 |
paulGrundy: War games! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:26pm On May 18, 2022 |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 1:43pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: Psalms 90:2 "Before the mountains were BORN.... from everlasting to everlasting, you are God." OLAADEGBU,is Jesus Christ the first born of God? God born the mountains, Psalms 90:2. The same God born Jesus Christ, Revelation 3:14. Jesus "the beginning of the creation by God." Confused TRINITARIAN DECEIVING HIMSELF on Nairaland. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 1:55pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: The 3 persons are 3 different spirits. There are 3 Godheads you OLAADEGBU Worships. Is Jesus Christ a TRINITARIAN?. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:10pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
EkeneElectrons: If he's now attending Deeperlife or another church it's OK let him just obey God's word at Hebrews 10:24-25 1 Like 3 Shares |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 9:18pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU LYING & DECEIVING HIMSELF . That FALSEHOOD & TRINITARIAN GIBBERISH had been debunked & REJECTED by the Hebrews long before OLAADEGBU was born. The evidences PROVEN by the screenshots. The Hebrews say "I will be what I will be" @ Exodus 3:14 DOESN'T mean "I am". Your MUMU scholar DECEIVING YOU. . How dare you force a Yoruba man or Hebrew man to accept your own meaning of a word in his language? More so, when Jesus Christ have already PROVEN himself is a Servant in heaven, @ Revelation 3:12 & Acts 3:13 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 9:29pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: DUBIOUS TRINITARIAN GIBBERISH . If Psalms 90:2 says "before the mountains were first BORN, will OLAADEGBU claim that the mountains was not created? Oga, you are LYING to your soul. Everyone BORN is a creature. Every first BORN is a creature, Jesus Christ is. Colossians 1:15 is NOT rocket science joor. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 10:42pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU: "the firstborn of every creature," Colossians 1:15. OLAADEGBU, You DUBIOUSLY CHANGE the holy scriptures to suit your man made scam. OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU'S weak & faulty analogy. Hebrews 1:6 "God brings His first born into the world" from the spirit realm. Hebrews 1:6,Jesus Christ is the first born of God in the spirit realm. God told the other angels,"pay homage to him", according to Catholic New Jerusalem Bible. Go & verify. In other words Jesus Christ was born first in the spirit realm,he is an angel of the Lord JEHOVAH. Genesis 16:7 Bible commentaries of TRINITARIANS PROVEN this evidence. Oga,go & argue with your fellow Trinitarians. OLAADEGBU:LIAR Psalms 90:2 "Before the mountains were BORN," Translated by your fellow Trinitarians. Birth and creation are equivalent terms. Ephesians 4:6 Paul the apostle confirmed that God is the Father of ALL. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 11:09pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU:OLAADEGBU LYING again. What did Paul the apostle teach OLAADEGBU @ Ephesians 3:14-15,1 Corinthians 8:6, 1 Corinthians 3:23 & Hebrews 1:2? God his Father ( meaning Senior) created ALL. Isaiah 44:24 = Daniel 4:30. Compare & receive SENSE. Did Your TRINITARIAN mentors AGREE that Jesus is the Instrumentality/Agency of creation @ Colossians 1:16, John 1:3 & Hebrews 1:2? Yes !! OLAADEGBU:Did God his Father come through Jesus? Romans 11:35-36, did Jesus come through his Father (meaning Senior)? Did OLAADEGBU come through his Father? OLAADEGBU:DUBIOUS TRINITARIAN DECEIVING HIMSELF and TWISTING the holy scriptures. Hebrews 1:10 is a copy of the Psalms refering to JEHOVAH God. Greek word "dia antou" meaning " through him (Jesus is the agency/Instrumentality of creation) is at John 1:3, Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2, 1Cor 8:6. These scriptures are shedding more light on Isaiah 44:24 but TRINITARIANS refused to accept the holy scriptures. You said Jesus is 2nd person in your 3 deities you Worshipping & at the breath you push aside his God, JEHOVAH & install Jesus. Coup plotters . Because 1 Corinthians 11:3 & John 17:7 no dey Una Bibles. Is God his Father anybody's "first born? Oga,Stop capping GIBBERISH. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Cult Exposed! by Janosky: 11:17pm On Nov 29, 2023 |
OLAADEGBU:In the corrupted Bible of TRINITARIANS they put "God" at John 10:33 when the PROVEN evidences reveal that John 10:33 reads "a god". Emphatic Diaglott ,Rotherham Bible,Sahidic Coptic Bible and NWT are very correct at John 1:1. Confused TRINITARIANS, continue DECEIVING YOURSELVES.
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