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Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by babestella: 9:06am On Oct 17, 2015 |
Maybe they should change the name to "Ísí Ndigbo" instead of the "Eze ndigbo". There is a lot of misconception by our Yoruba brothers and sisters as to what the Eze Ndigbo really means. It's only a conceptualized idea and doesn't mean a contest with any Yoruba king. Period. |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Nobody: 9:08am On Oct 17, 2015 |
What they dare not try in the North 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by 4stylz: 9:08am On Oct 17, 2015 |
I am not igbo but this is so lame of that anifere; how dare you call a Nigerian immigrants, I have rights to do anything in anyone land and nothing will happen; our constitution doesn't recognise traditions or yorubaland /igboland. If that's the case, globacom owned by a Yoruba man should stop building mask outside Yorubaland; and dangote should stop selling cement outside hausaland. Anifere (whatever that means )is a foolish refugee in Nigeria. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by basileze: 9:09am On Oct 17, 2015 |
If only Yoruba's know the population of Yoruba's in Port-Harcourt, South-East and South-South and the juicy positions these Yoruba's occupy in Multinational oil and Gas companies, Banks, Telecom's, Manufacturing, etc they will behave. The problem is that most yoruba's are ignorant of the fact that they will surely lose bigtime in this ethnic war if it starts. |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by DelticStephEn(f): 9:09am On Oct 17, 2015 |
IdisuleOurOwn:hahaha. you Yoruba can make good comedian. so all this rape and kidnapping are not disrespect? # https://www.nairaland.com/2638414/how-fulani-herdsmen-kill-rape. warris this? # https://www.nairaland.com/2615875/how-fulani-herdsmen-abducted-olu. hahaha. more. # https://www.nairaland.com/2615875/how-fulani-herdsmen-abducted-olu 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Sagamite(m): 9:12am On Oct 17, 2015 |
babestella: Fcking well said. That is exactly my point. All those fuuktards need to change their title name immediately and should not wear any monarchial regalia except they were appointed by the local King. 3 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Demmzy15(m): 9:12am On Oct 17, 2015 |
ishiamu:Who's a tribalist?! |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Nobody: 9:12am On Oct 17, 2015 |
MayorofLagos: Another Fool |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Nobody: 9:13am On Oct 17, 2015 |
ghuzy01: I also read the thrash you posted. I really feel lots of sympathy for people like you. Show us the picture of the said crown. This man according to the news respected your chief, prostrated before him. What else does he want? How else does he want him to show respect? I don't feel for the eze though based on my personal opinion about those titles including your thuggish chief. He had already mobilised hooligans and rogue to embarrass this man. I say it again, your deji or whatever you call him is an agbero and a silly man. You don't act like that towards your guest. If he was displeased, there are more matured and diplomatic ways of dealing with that matter. He wouldn't attempt that with a miyetti Allah chief. Igbos no matter how you see them are peace loving. Matters like these can degenerate some day and it's animals like you who that would be shamed. I blame the megalomeganiac eze phool who went to your oba or deji to get recognised. That is a taboo and such title should not recognised by anyone. Finally, ibi dakwajikwa your deji agada. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by henciry: 9:14am On Oct 17, 2015 |
4stylz: |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Demmzy15(m): 9:15am On Oct 17, 2015 |
basileze:See your dirty mouth, so Yorubas in those lands are claiming they're no man's land or appointing themselves as Oba of Port Harcourt?! Dumb flat'head! 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Crixpad: 9:15am On Oct 17, 2015 |
sunnyb0b0: Let's make the record straight. Can someone please politely state here ways which the Igbos have disrespected and insulted the their Yoruba host, can someone please tell me what atrocities Igbos have done in Lagos that our yourba brothers have not done in London. Why do yorubas see the Igbos as the reason for their misfortunes? |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Adebowale89(m): 9:15am On Oct 17, 2015 |
IdisuleOurOwn: and who is Nnamdi KANU one single man has been directing&redirecting millions of Igbo and u are happy. am not after any tribalism statement but this is not like that in Yoruba land, a man is not greater than the masses BTW my fiance is a correct Igbo girl, all this una Biafra dream no be here o |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by harjorlarh(m): 9:17am On Oct 17, 2015 |
With the ethnic conflict clashes r goin...i hope it doesn't lead 2 a civil war |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Nobody: 9:17am On Oct 17, 2015 |
IdisuleOurOwn:Does it matter You reason like a poorly educated Yoruba person |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Nobody: 9:17am On Oct 17, 2015 |
MrMbaM: Another lazy fool |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by wristbangle: 9:17am On Oct 17, 2015 |
tetfundfraudale: God bless u my dear brother. One love, One Nigeria |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by luvmijeje(f): 9:18am On Oct 17, 2015 |
MayorofLagos: 70 years! It's more than enough to assimilate. Please let's allow bygone to be bygone and hopefully we've all learnt from it. |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Nobody: 9:19am On Oct 17, 2015 |
DelticStephEn: Kwara is Yoruba? Even the entire Ilorin is not Yoruba. Ibos and innate dumbness. And the dahomey amazon are what? Ibos? Hausa? Stupid skank, they were Yoruba. I place females on a pedestal until they show ho.e tendencies or dumbness, you've shown both. Please move on. 5 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Nobody: 9:19am On Oct 17, 2015 |
Rayhut:this is what I call sense. 2 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by henciry: 9:20am On Oct 17, 2015 |
Yorubas and hausas have been and is still ruling this country since independence,yet they still have hatred towards the Igbos. |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Nobody: 9:20am On Oct 17, 2015 |
sukkot:mumu u dont want igbos in ur land is there someone stopping u from chasing them away? mumu people. I wud frustrate that ur useless Oba in this Nairaland and make sure his name becomes a caricature for kids on the street. 1 Like |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Adebowale89(m): 9:20am On Oct 17, 2015 |
you must know your right. Igbo people says that we Yoruba's like Hausa, of course we and Igbo are also best of friends but come to think of it, when you respect yourself, people will surely respect you the seriki of Hausa would never stoop so low to contest with Yoruba or Igbo in their land, they respect culture & tradition let's live with unity&harmony in respecting our individual culture&tradition Yoruba people are loving people 2 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by ghuzy01: 9:21am On Oct 17, 2015 |
gbosaa:Mr man,its like u don't get.have you ever wondered why igbos have problems with their host?just think abt it.Akure people 're very peaceful nd won't hurt a fly...dt s y you hardly hear abt info in d news for anything negative.d so callled eze must have really infuriated d king to deserve such.d igbos shld undastand dt they 're welcomed in yoruba land but they shld conform to d culture of the yourbas.it's dt simple 2 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by FreeGlobe(f): 9:22am On Oct 17, 2015 |
Gamesmart:No it means yorubas, instead of facing their masters and attackers have instead chosen to pick another fight with peace loving igbos who are just minding their business. You know, when you cannot attack your bully, you love from things to divert attention while your bully has a field day decimating you. 2 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Owliver(m): 9:22am On Oct 17, 2015 |
oluwabreezy:no oba or king have any constitutional power my friend meanwhile, money controls the world even if you say knowledge igbos are more educated lol. |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by amnesty7: 9:22am On Oct 17, 2015 |
dailytrust.com.ng On sending the nomads packing An allegation often heard in Nigeria in recent times is that “the youths of nowadays” have departed from the path of hard work, obedience and respect for elders that youths were once known for. The assumption has always been that while the youths went haywire, elders have remained their old selves, wise, peaceable and measured. Fifteen years ago I was part of a delegation that went to try and resolve an intractable social problem. I developed a deep respect for our delegation’s leader because as soon as he sat down he told the other side, “Things will never get out of hand where there are elders!” Well, not anymore. Evidence has just surfaced to indicate that “elders” in Nigeria have stepped forward and taken over the youths’ old role as firebrand, misdirected, devil may care, leap before you look and shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later. I am thinking here of the communiqué issued in Ibadan after an “emergency summit” of Yoruba elders. In attendance were such prominent persons as President of the Yoruba Council of Elders (YCE) Major General Adeyinka Adebayo, Sir Olaniwun Ajayi, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, Chief Idowu Sofola, Dr Frederick Fasehun, Bishop Ayo Ladigbolu, Prof Banji Akintoye, Prof Adetowun Ogunseye and Dr Kunle Olajide. Pretending to be irked by last month’s abduction of former Secretary to the Government of the Federation Chief Olu Falae and the subsequent attack on his farm in Ondo State, the meeting issued an incendiary communiqué that, in effect, called for the expulsion of all nomadic pastoralists from the South West region. This gathering, which included lawyers, career soldiers and bishops, most of them very advanced in age, held ALL pastoralists responsible for a deed that was done by no more than ten people. The communiqué read by Dr. Olajide said, “Yoruba leaders of thought both at home and in Diaspora had an emergency summit in response to the clear and present danger to the continued existence of our people… Despite the non aggressive disposition of the Yoruba, we have been victims of violent violations from our hostile neighbours from pre- colonial days to modern times. From the 18th century, the Fulani jihadists’ onslaught against the Yoruba through the travails of Chief Obafemi Awolowo through the June 12 saga with the latest wars declared on our people…The return of the herdsmen is a declaration of war on the Yoruba. Falae’s abduction is a continuation of attacks which these herdsmen have unleashed on our people over the years…” Chief Femi Fani-Kayode, who not present at the meeting, later poured kerosene into the flames by saying, “Let this meeting be a warning to those that underestimate our resolve in this matter and that mistake our kindness and patience for weakness…If and when we are pushed to the wall we know exactly what to do. The killings, the rapings, the abductiOons and the desecration and pillaging of our land and farms by these Fulani herdsmen must stop or else there will be consequences.” No wonder that Chairman of the National Human Rights Commission Professor Chidi Odinkalu accused Fani-Kayode of hate speech. Now, the kidnap of Chief Olu Falae was a heinous crime and people all over Nigeria were shocked when they heard of it. However, it was not the first ever kidnap case, in Nigeria or even in the South West. It is therefore difficult to see how it constituted a “clear and present danger to the continued survival” of the Yoruba. There must have been many other kidnap cases in the South West that did not get as much publicity as Falae’s case got, obviously because of the victim’s prominence. However, kidnaps are taking place in many other parts of Nigeria, many of them unreported in the media. In many cases they are perpetrated by local youths. A few years ago when kidnapping became such a huge menace in the South East, no one said that some other ethnic group was threatening Igbo existence, clearly because local gangs were perpetrating the crimes. Five years ago when the Secretary to the Kaduna State Government Waje Yayock was kidnapped in Kaduna and taken to Delta State, the Southern Kaduna Peoples Union [SOKAPU] did not say its people’s existence was being threatened by Southerners. Nigeria’s ethnic groups are so thoroughly mixed up now that everyone is borrowing from everyone else in things good and bad. Food formulas that once belonged to particular parts of the country have been borrowed by others. Trades that were once identified with some ethnic groups have been infiltrated by others. It is no surprise that criminal enterprises invented by some people have been borrowed by others, especially when they prove to be lucrative and when in most cases the criminals escape punishment. There are no ethnic patents for trades or crimes. Pastoralist youths did not invent kidnapping in Nigeria, nor are they the dominant force in the trade right now. There is however evidence to suggest that they are involved in it. Several kidnap victims in Kogi State and other parts of the North testified that their kidnappers spoke Hausa with heavy Fulfulde accent. But then, other kidnappers spoke with other languages and accents. In fact, even before kidnapping became a big game, stories were told in the past decade by highway robbery victims, especially on the Abuja-Kaduna highway, that they were robbed by men speaking Hausa with Fulfulde accents. Like many other people, I was shocked when I first heard those stories because pastoralists are associated in most people’s minds with simplicity and lack of sophistication. Sure we knew that they could fight to the death to defend their cattle---and more recently to rustle them. Nigerians also learnt in recent years that pastoralists tend to avenge for an offence long after everyone else has forgotten about it, an attribute they share with pastoralists in other parts of the world. If the Yoruba Council of Elders were acting as elders, they would rather point to the protracted inter-communal conflicts in several Northern states and say, let us find peaceful ways of resolving the farmer-pastoralist problems in our areas. One of the virtues of an elder, at least in the past, was the wisdom to seek to know why a problem that was not there before should suddenly rear its head. For example, after Falae was kidnapped and then released by suspected herdsmen and some suspected herdsmen later attacked and ransacked his farm, I expect a wise elder to say, “Chief, was there anything that happened between you and these people? There are many farms in Ondo State; why is it that they attacked your farm twice within a short time?” It is not the hallmark of an elder to believe the story told by one side and go ahead and act on it, however prominent the victim is and however criminal the other guy tends to be. If everyone in Nigeria were to borrow the Yoruba Council of Elders’ style and criminalise whole ethnic and trade groups anytime one of them commits a crime, Nigeria will soon make the Balkan wars look like a tea party. Back in the 1970s when I was a very young man, every vehicle mechanic in Sokoto where I lived was a Yoruba man. Many times the mechanics offended me by pretending to repair my motorcycle, only for me to discover later that they messed things up. I did not qualify as an elder in those days but I never said as a result that all mechanics are useless or that all Yorubas should leave Sokoto. Instead I identified which mechanic messed up my motorcycle, subsequently boycotted him and then looked for a better mechanic [often in vain]. In fact, I will like to recommend to YCE my own small example in 1985 when a Ghanaian motor electrician called Kwame messed up my car’s kick starter. Day after day he spent the whole day repairing it, only for the car to be pushed to start. I finally lost my temper, glared at him and said, “I would have dealt with you if not because you share the same name with Kwame Nkrumah!” http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/monday-column/on-sending-the-nomads-packing/114469.html |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by abouzaid: 9:23am On Oct 17, 2015 |
please which one is afenifere renewable group? |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by MrMbaM: 9:23am On Oct 17, 2015 |
DrDauda: Your wh.orish mother is a lazy b.astard. Animal |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by amnesty7: 9:25am On Oct 17, 2015 |
https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?topic=2670633 dailytrust.com.ng On sending the nomads packing An allegation often heard in Nigeria in recent times is that “the youths of nowadays” have departed from the path of hard work, obedience and respect for elders that youths were once known for. The assumption has always been that while the youths went haywire, elders have remained their old selves, wise, peaceable and measured. Fifteen years ago I was part of a delegation that went to try and resolve an intractable social problem. I developed a deep respect for our delegation’s leader because as soon as he sat down he told the other side, “Things will never get out of hand where there are elders!” Well, not anymore. Evidence has just surfaced to indicate that “elders” in Nigeria have stepped forward and taken over the youths’ old role as firebrand, misdirected, devil may care, leap before you look and shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later. I am thinking here of the communiqué issued in Ibadan after an “emergency summit” of Yoruba elders. In attendance were such prominent persons as President of the Yoruba Council of Elders (YCE) Major General Adeyinka Adebayo, Sir Olaniwun Ajayi, Chief Ayo Adebanjo, Chief Idowu Sofola, Dr Frederick Fasehun, Bishop Ayo Ladigbolu, Prof Banji Akintoye, Prof Adetowun Ogunseye and Dr Kunle Olajide. Pretending to be irked by last month’s abduction of former Secretary to the Government of the Federation Chief Olu Falae and the subsequent attack on his farm in Ondo State, the meeting issued an incendiary communiqué that, in effect, called for the expulsion of all nomadic pastoralists from the South West region. This gathering, which included lawyers, career soldiers and bishops, most of them very advanced in age, held ALL pastoralists responsible for a deed that was done by no more than ten people. The communiqué read by Dr. Olajide said, “Yoruba leaders of thought both at home and in Diaspora had an emergency summit in response to the clear and present danger to the continued existence of our people… Despite the non aggressive disposition of the Yoruba, we have been victims of violent violations from our hostile neighbours from pre- colonial days to modern times. From the 18th century, the Fulani jihadists’ onslaught against the Yoruba through the travails of Chief Obafemi Awolowo through the June 12 saga with the latest wars declared on our people…The return of the herdsmen is a declaration of war on the Yoruba. Falae’s abduction is a continuation of attacks which these herdsmen have unleashed on our people over the years…” Chief Femi Fani-Kayode, who not present at the meeting, later poured kerosene into the flames by saying, “Let this meeting be a warning to those that underestimate our resolve in this matter and that mistake our kindness and patience for weakness…If and when we are pushed to the wall we know exactly what to do. The killings, the rapings, the abductiOons and the desecration and pillaging of our land and farms by these Fulani herdsmen must stop or else there will be consequences.” No wonder that Chairman of the National Human Rights Commission Professor Chidi Odinkalu accused Fani-Kayode of hate speech. Now, the kidnap of Chief Olu Falae was a heinous crime and people all over Nigeria were shocked when they heard of it. However, it was not the first ever kidnap case, in Nigeria or even in the South West. It is therefore difficult to see how it constituted a “clear and present danger to the continued survival” of the Yoruba. There must have been many other kidnap cases in the South West that did not get as much publicity as Falae’s case got, obviously because of the victim’s prominence. However, kidnaps are taking place in many other parts of Nigeria, many of them unreported in the media. In many cases they are perpetrated by local youths. A few years ago when kidnapping became such a huge menace in the South East, no one said that some other ethnic group was threatening Igbo existence, clearly because local gangs were perpetrating the crimes. Five years ago when the Secretary to the Kaduna State Government Waje Yayock was kidnapped in Kaduna and taken to Delta State, the Southern Kaduna Peoples Union [SOKAPU] did not say its people’s existence was being threatened by Southerners. Nigeria’s ethnic groups are so thoroughly mixed up now that everyone is borrowing from everyone else in things good and bad. Food formulas that once belonged to particular parts of the country have been borrowed by others. Trades that were once identified with some ethnic groups have been infiltrated by others. It is no surprise that criminal enterprises invented by some people have been borrowed by others, especially when they prove to be lucrative and when in most cases the criminals escape punishment. There are no ethnic patents for trades or crimes. Pastoralist youths did not invent kidnapping in Nigeria, nor are they the dominant force in the trade right now. There is however evidence to suggest that they are involved in it. Several kidnap victims in Kogi State and other parts of the North testified that their kidnappers spoke Hausa with heavy Fulfulde accent. But then, other kidnappers spoke with other languages and accents. In fact, even before kidnapping became a big game, stories were told in the past decade by highway robbery victims, especially on the Abuja-Kaduna highway, that they were robbed by men speaking Hausa with Fulfulde accents. Like many other people, I was shocked when I first heard those stories because pastoralists are associated in most people’s minds with simplicity and lack of sophistication. Sure we knew that they could fight to the death to defend their cattle---and more recently to rustle them. Nigerians also learnt in recent years that pastoralists tend to avenge for an offence long after everyone else has forgotten about it, an attribute they share with pastoralists in other parts of the world. If the Yoruba Council of Elders were acting as elders, they would rather point to the protracted inter-communal conflicts in several Northern states and say, let us find peaceful ways of resolving the farmer-pastoralist problems in our areas. One of the virtues of an elder, at least in the past, was the wisdom to seek to know why a problem that was not there before should suddenly rear its head. For example, after Falae was kidnapped and then released by suspected herdsmen and some suspected herdsmen later attacked and ransacked his farm, I expect a wise elder to say, “Chief, was there anything that happened between you and these people? There are many farms in Ondo State; why is it that they attacked your farm twice within a short time?” It is not the hallmark of an elder to believe the story told by one side and go ahead and act on it, however prominent the victim is and however criminal the other guy tends to be. If everyone in Nigeria were to borrow the Yoruba Council of Elders’ style and criminalise whole ethnic and trade groups anytime one of them commits a crime, Nigeria will soon make the Balkan wars look like a tea party. Back in the 1970s when I was a very young man, every vehicle mechanic in Sokoto where I lived was a Yoruba man. Many times the mechanics offended me by pretending to repair my motorcycle, only for me to discover later that they messed things up. I did not qualify as an elder in those days but I never said as a result that all mechanics are useless or that all Yorubas should leave Sokoto. Instead I identified which mechanic messed up my motorcycle, subsequently boycotted him and then looked for a better mechanic [often in vain]. In fact, I will like to recommend to YCE my own small example in 1985 when a Ghanaian motor electrician called Kwame messed up my car’s kick starter. Day after day he spent the whole day repairing it, only for the car to be pushed to start. I finally lost my temper, glared at him and said, “I would have dealt with you if not because you share the same name with Kwame Nkrumah!” http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/monday-column/on-sending-the-nomads-packing/114469.html |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by Eziachi: 9:25am On Oct 17, 2015 |
What exactly is Eze Ndigbo in Yorubaland or any other land? How can you be a king in another kingdom or another king's domain? There was a time we use to have Igbo Town Unions in various cities with elected officials with a stipulated terms in office. Who invented this Eze without a kingdom concept? One of those Nigeria penchant for high sounding titles I suppose. 2 Likes |
Re: Afenifere Asks South West Govs, Obas To De-recognise Eze Ndi Igbos In Yorubaland by OnReflection: 9:25am On Oct 17, 2015 |
Akure and audacity of settlersSource For someone who claims to be part of continuum that reaches back at least 70 years, this particular Eze Ndigbo has evidently overreached himself in more ways than one. Enough of this open defiance of our customary laws 4 Likes |
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