No2Atheism:

I have restrained not to join this biafra war issue.

I have been in the East and have experienced their culture (in Uhafia of Abia State) hence i know about Abiriba, Isialangua, Bende etc)

My observation is that the East is not that developed compared to the West and the North, yet for some reason they are hell bent on Biafra.

My observation is also that Ibos are generally an independent minded people meaning that they do not even agree with each other talkless of outsiders.

Ibos don't seem to realise that:

- Biafra would actually be landlocked.

- Areas of Igbos is actually quite a very small area of nigeria, hence how they came to prominence in the east is actually a little startling, considering even the non - ibo part of the niger delta and east is quite even much bigger than the ibo pat. Hence they would still have the same problem of majority minority assuming other unrelated people decide to go along with them.

- Some ibos seem to only be interested in money and oil, considering that they keep adding Niger Delta to their so called Biafra even though its quite obvious that most people in the Niger Delta don't really want to have anything to do with Biafra.

- Are Ibos going to force groups like
- Ijaws
- Edos
- Calabaris
- Efiks
- Itsekiris

to join them by force cus of oil and gas or wat, cus either way i look at this Biafra issue, it seems Ibos are always going to lose (cus of little or no Oil except small amount in Abia and cus of the fact that they would be land locked as a nation, hence have to be dependent on the benevolence of either nigeria or cameroun in the use of the air space for transportation or transportation of goods).

My advise is that Igbos should think this thing through very very well before taking this kind of plunge, cus the truth is that once nigeria is divided they then non of the other parts have a reason not to nationalise all ibo properties and businesses in their region and non of the other parts have no reason not to deny igbos access to land and sea.


My advise is that Nigeria should go back to the regional kind of goverment such that:

Nigeria is divided to different regions based solely on ethnic groups, hence all the nonsense of states containing different ethiic groups would be removed and each ethnic group would control its own resources and develop only at is own pace, have its own military and police.

The only thing that would be done is that 10 tax would be paid to a 3 president head central body, just to keep the name nigeria floating until all the regions now finally decide to part ways.

Okpuzu:

I have tried to follow the trend of discussion here and found in most instances that it is shallow. To start with, there will be no Oduduwa Republic, no Arewa Republic, no Biafra, no NigerDelta or Ijaw Kingdom, etc.

Nigeria will always be one. If for any reason any of the regions is to go its way, it must be peaceful and I can assure u guys there will not be abandoned properties. Even the last one has not been fully resolved and most Nigerians are wiser now, from plateau to Benue to NigerDelta to Southwest to Odi, etc.

Injustice begets injustice.

The Ibos are going now where. The Biafran chant is just a way of showing displeasure just like we have the NigerDelta/Ijaw militants, etc. I dont know which I prefer. Lets have proper debates not abuses and half baked ideas and tantrums.

There is a whole lot of inter cultural relationships going on. Nigeria will not spoil. We all will enjoy it!

Strength10:

IGBOLAND is not landlocked. Go read your history and goegraphy. What we have now are imposed borders. You also forgot we have a river called river Niger which passes through/along the borders of Igboland(assuming that is the casE). Believe it or not, [size=13pt]If Biafra is created, ALL southern states, some western and midwestern states will join them in a heart beat because they all know that the success of igbo people, the vision, hard work, international connections, business and technological mindset and 21st century thinking will turn Biafra into a westernized society in less a generation.[/size] People in Nigeria are not fools. Those tribes will not broadcast their love for Biafra now because they fear retribution, and retaliation from others. But as soon as they see the dream coming true true or is at hand, you will be suprised how fast they will deny the name Nigeria and divorce with the Muslim North.

Kobojunkie:


Roflmao!!!!   

Some one has been fed some serious Ota pia pia for real!!!   

IGWE_USA:


I guess you are the one that ate Ota pia pia. Why do you guys find it so difficulut to leave the igbos alone? The question whether

they will regret their sucession from a doomed country like Nigeria shouldnt be your cup of tea.

You have houses and properties in Abuja (70% of that city is said to be Igbo-owned) according to ElRufai (2007).
You have billions of houses and investments in Lagos, PH, Calabar and northern and southern states

What happens to these investments when you are no longer Nigerians? Are you going to uproot the buildings and move them to Enugu? Do you have the right to own property in a country where you are not citizens or (legal) permanent residents?

IGWE_USA:


Definitely you dont have to object. The Igbo masses should have the final say, not outsiders like you.

Kobojunkie:


Are you OK? Where in any of my posts have I claimed it is difficult for me to leave you to your way? I don't care if you chose to move your own family to hell. That is your business and your life.

      Am definitely Ok.  Having read your previous posts on threads concerning the igbos, it's not a rocket science for me to deduce your intentions.
      FYI, leaving Nigeria for any other place is better because she is already HELL of a place. You are even enjoying in another man's land.

I am more concerned about the problem you intend to leave behind for innocent Nigerians who are yet again trying to live and make the best of their life in the country, should you push for more commotion in that country in your bid to escape to your Shangri-la a second time around.
       
      So you expect them to keep on striving ad infinetum till they all are dead. You even stressed further to call  Biafra a shangri-la, but mind you that

      Nigeria have not achieved what they did within 3yrs.

Have you not learned from the first attempt that this is more than just you and those who think as you do? We are over 40 years into this and you want to bring this upon your children again? I don't think you are worth the Walhalla to the innocents who might be forced to spend years dealing with the consequences of your action. Millions of my generations have been dealing with the consequences of the Biafra-n war to date, but for a second time around, you intend for us to have to go through the same for you?

      The problem is that you guys are always blindfolded with your dependency on the igbos. Listen my friend, the soviet union separated with out a

     Single gun shot. Hence, why cant the Nigerian government leave Biafra to secede peacefully.

     
Am I not allowed to object? Oh Wait, I don't have a say because I am not FOR Biafra and so I must not matter. lol

Afaukwu:

Interesting question that we Igbos need to address . Indeed, there are a number of things we need to sort out before a succesful Biafra can be achieved

1. Igbo need to know how many Igbo there are in Nigeria (easy to do within Igbo states)
2.We need to know how many of those live in Nigerian states outside Igboland (all those Eze Ndigbo outside Igboland should take up this assignment
3. They need to compare the land mass to the number of Igbos around to ascertain if the expected influx will contain all Igbos that will be leaving Nigeria
4. They need to begin to invest more at home to cushion the effect of a relocation
5. They need to plan for a long time before they reach a final conclusion (10-15 years)
6. They need to consult Igbos in the diaspora
7. They need to find out if Uwazuruike has not sold his own house in lagos (I know he has a duplex somewhere around Isolo/Okota/Ago Palace road) and moved all his personal assets to Okwe, his home town
8. They need to get it at the back of their minds that the new Biafra will not include any non-Igbo speaking people (I prefer that)
9. They need to figure out how to harness the abundant oil and gas in Imo, Abia, Enugu and Anambra without waiting for oil from Ijaw and other ND states.
10. They need to be sure that they can pull out of Nigeria without a gun shot being fired (only in that condition can they retain their properties in Nigeria). Otherwise they are considered war booties

11. Following from point 10, I doubt that Nigeria will permit 70% of the properties in her capital (Abuja) being owned by foreigners (Biafrans)

Afaukwu:

Kobojunkie,

As you seem to have noted, many Igbos are not interested in Biafra (I am one of them); However, for Igbos to contribute to mending what all of us have contributed in spoiling, we need to be given the chance to do so. The bargains are as follows

Presidency (like other major groups who helped spoil Nigeria have tasted)

Afaukwu:

Equal number of states in each zone

Afaukwu:

accurate population census

Afaukwu:

Resource control (50-100%)

Afaukwu:

These are not too much to ask or are they?

Afaukwu:

Presidency (like other major groups who helped spoil Nigeria have tasted)

Afaukwu:
Based on what we know, do you think a Nigeria without Igbos, after allowing Biafra to go, especially if fighting was involved,  will still let Biafran citizens retain ownership of 70% of the property in its capital (Abuja)?