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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by musicwriter(m): 9:01am On Feb 18, 2016
After looking into this country we have come to the conclusion corruption itself is what makes this country run. It's a pity some are here defending the sacked staffs when they're part of an elaborate scam. From the president to the ministers to staff at the budget office, this scam could not have happened without them working in tandem. The only reason everybody is denying the budget is because the deal didn't pull through.

1. Was it a staff at the budget office that went to the senate to steal the budget?.
No, to be able to go steal the budget at the senate requires a presidential connection.

2. Who would have received the money for the inflated budgets?.
Ministers and heads of parastatals would have pocketed the extra money.

3. Would the staffs at the budget office not open up, if they were not part of the crime?.
The sacked staffs would have told Nigerians what happened, if they were not working in sync with the presidency and ministers to doctor the budget.

And everybody keeps wondering why the Naira is falling, without realizing that any government that can attempt this brazen theft can rundown a country without batting an eyelid.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Jesusloveyou: 9:13am On Feb 18, 2016
viktor01:
Someone would have to take the blame as usual, only that it is going to be the innocent ones.
have u see any civil servant that is innocent? I know alot of dedicated christian and muslim civil servant that partake in overhead expenses which they never perform, they collect for workshop they never attend, they inflate fuel price they never bought, they collect alot of funny overhead expenses that never matter to nigerians, that is why i said all civil servant are guilty, and anyone that is not ready to change should be show d way out, just imagine 3tr for overhead expenses for what should be less than 100b, that is how all civil servant has be enriching themselves over d years

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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by tatucci: 9:25am On Feb 18, 2016
SylarsMcQuins:
OMG!!!!!
Bubu the confused one
Keep on sacking everyone till no one agrees to work with you anymore.
If I hear! Nigerians wey like salary... for where!?
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by SIRTee15: 9:26am On Feb 18, 2016
All this one na story......
The real question is can he read the budget.....
Can buhari interpret what's written in the budget.....
If not, then the same embarrassment will keep reoccurring.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by DeRay98(m): 9:27am On Feb 18, 2016
lookandlaff:


what exactly do you think the job of the budget office is? why do we have so many people employed in the budget office? When you employ a driver and you tell him you are traveling from Lagos to Ibadan, half way through the journey petrol finishes or the engine knocks because there was no engine oil in the engine, won't you sack the driver, is it your job to check engine Oil when you have a driver? you will because although you own the car you have employed the driver and part of his responsibilities is to make sure the car is fit for the journey including checking the engine oil and petrol. The driver is a professional so are the people in the budget office, the job of the budget office is to go through and vet all the submissions and prepare the budget for approval, they have been caught in their game. Plus there is a heirachy and they would have signed off on it. Everybody along the chain trusts that people below them have done the jobs they are paid to do, that's the way the system works. If people do their jobs and people are honest, t is not Buhari or any minister's job to go through a budget and say why are you buying 100 computers here, why are you buying 100 a/cs there, the job of a president and minister is to provide policy direction and this is how much we have to spend, it is the role of the civil servants to come up with the expenditure plan (budget) and if they are fraudulent prople like most are, then you get scandals like these. The biggest obstacle to development we have is the civil service crooks, theyve been doing this for decades. So please leave Buhari and Ministers out of it, I'm sure over the course of the next four years they will make their own blunders and you can chastise them for those.
God bless your common sense and use of knowledge of processes for the sincere purpose.
Nigerian youths whose future has been sold over years of visionless rulership, are defending their "heroes of theft" just to hide their pride of political loss with share hatred and denial.
what a new disease afflicting the youth.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Justinah4real(f): 9:28am On Feb 18, 2016
Nicepoker:
Dollar now 373 in parallel market. Bubu hope u are aware.
But if the budget officer budget 100 000 as Pmb salary, will the man not be arrested and sacked. Nigerians smiliing while their money are being transfered, out of the country,by tourist presido, which justifys the fall of naira.

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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by tatucci: 9:30am On Feb 18, 2016
But have you guys actually seen the way our civil service operates? people go to work by 10/11 am and leave before 4pm or sometimes 3pm! In some places, I hear the only time you see civil servants is when end of the month is drawing near and after that the office will be deserted... We need serious rethink.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Justinah4real(f): 9:30am On Feb 18, 2016
musicwriter:
After looking into this country we have come to the conclusion corruption itself is what makes this country run. It's a pity some are here defending the sacked staffs when they're part of an elaborate scam. From the president to the ministers to staff at the budget office, this scam could not have happened without them working in tandem. The only reason everybody is denying the budget is because the deal didn't pull through.

1. Was it a staff at the budget office that went to the senate to steal the budget?.
No, to be able to go steal the budget at the senate requires a presidential connection.

2. Who would have received the money for the inflated budgets?.
Ministers and heads of parastatals would have pocketed the extra money.

3. Would the staffs at the budget office not open up, if they were not part of the crime?.
The sacked staffs would have told Nigerians what happened, if they were not working in sync with the presidency and ministers to doctor the budget.

And everybody keeps wondering why the Naira is falling, without realizing that any government that can attempt this brazen theft can rundown a country without batting an eyelid.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by tonquendo4u(m): 9:35am On Feb 18, 2016
From government of travel to government of sacking.Ok.Kontinuu
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Dotlammy: 9:35am On Feb 18, 2016
We should all learn from this. Lets get our ways straight because one day.... Nothing last forever.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by bjdon: 9:38am On Feb 18, 2016
Was this not the same President who said ministers was just noise makers and Civil Servants could run everything. I think he owes Nigerians an apology
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by henrysam(m): 9:40am On Feb 18, 2016
Baba sacked those who prepared the budget. Who will help us sack baba who appended his signature without Checking what he signed.
They voted for illiterate and expecting change.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by henrysam(m): 9:50am On Feb 18, 2016
The only thing baba knows is gallivanting all over the world.
When it comes to brilliance baba is unavailable
It's also worthy to note that baba regime always fraught with hardship in the pretex of saving Nigeria
Those who are available in 1984 and '85 will lay credence to this
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Folksyharry(m): 9:52am On Feb 18, 2016
It's long overdue. Those people messed up big time with the budget.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by rolams(m): 9:53am On Feb 18, 2016
Nicepoker:
Dollar now 373 in parallel market. Bubu hope u are aware.

Chai, sai walahi changi!
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by paschu: 9:56am On Feb 18, 2016
Super1Star:


Must you comment if you do not know a process.

All over the world, civil servants prepare the budget for the public servants and not the other way round. The public servants ie the political class can only teleguide them on what the thinking and policy of the govt is.

And the said rulling class is FORBIDDEN to scrutinize the budget before presenting it to the senate, that's your argumrnt right? KEEP LYING TO YOURSELF.

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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by youngeagle(m): 10:04am On Feb 18, 2016
Those defending this present administration for this gross incompetence sometimes I wonder if they are concerned Nigerians that wishes this country well or paid goons who are out to defend the present administration for whatsoever.

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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by paschu: 10:07am On Feb 18, 2016
lookandlaff:


innocent? . Who do you think prepared the budget if not these evil servants? even in the presidency, all the president or ministers do is formulate policy as far as budget, the job of pkanning, oreparation and vetting is down to the civil servants, all the ministers do is approve based on a trust that the people doing the preparation are honest. when it is found that they are dishonest then you sack.


Buhari's mistake was not forming a cabinet on time, thinking he could work with and trust civil servants not realsing these are the biggest crooks in the land setting him up. Obviously he felt this was 32 years ago when civil servants were still professional. Ministers who just came in barely a month, many unfamiliar to the ministries, many from the private sector, cannot know the inner workings of their ministries in short space of time to know what was submitted before them was a fraud. Even the presidency is manned by civil servants.


The biggest crooks in the country are civil servants, the more of them that are sacked the better for all of us.

You are really defending Buhari on this elaborate scam he presented as a budget after months of perfecting it? If your case is true, why did it take the Senate no time flat to see the fraud? Or are they not elected officials too? What we are seeing in the presidency and it's executive officials today is a DARING (in a class of it's own) desperate manifestation of corruption and incompetence. And any excuse you give for it will just go to show how pathetic you think we all are.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Godiloveu(f): 10:16am On Feb 18, 2016
Nathe11:
job insecurity nowadays ehn...sm1 will spend ages to look for Job and still be afraid of sacking

U do d wrong thing, u get sacked!
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Nobody: 10:20am On Feb 18, 2016
paschu:


You are really defending Buhari on this elaborate scam he presented as a budget after months of perfecting it? If your case is true, why did it take the Senate no time flat to see the fraud? Or are they not elected officials too? What we are seeing in the presidency and it's executive officials today is a DARING (in a class of it's own) desperate manifestation of corruption and incompetence. And any excuse you give for it will just go to show how pathetic you think we all are.


months of perfecting it you say? and who were the people he was perfecting it with all those months, no be civil servants? Was it not this same civil servants he was dealing with when he told us ministers are noise makers? He trusted the civil servants and they embarassed him. On your valid point about senate, well I can't answer that because this is not the 1st time dubious budgets have been presented to them and sailed through...maybe the senate this time finally decided to do it's job, dont forget this is a new senate.


On your final point I actually do think people are pathetic because if you cannot see that the civil servants are at fault here then it means your biases, either ibo v hausa or Pdp v apc is clouding your judgement. it's an embarrassment to the government no doubt but the incompetence/fraud cannot be put at the doorsteps of the ministers or Buhari. Like I said Buhari is going to screw up many things before his term is up and we will have the opportunity to objectively lambast him but this is not one of them, this is solely the result of a institutionalized corruption in the civil service.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by blackboy(m): 10:30am On Feb 18, 2016
The bidget office is to receive the budget proposals and compile it. When issues were raised Asao Rock defended it and are there evidence it was the former DG that tampered with it or from the ministries. If the DG is fired what about mr president who also presented the budget. I feel it should not be mass but pin point anyone who played a role in doctorin or distorting figures in the budget. That is what the police, civil service commision is for.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by ocelot2006(m): 10:38am On Feb 18, 2016
Last i checked, the presidency and other ministries ought to have gone through the final draft before submition. Besides it's not like released funds wouldve passed through the Budget Office. In my opinion there's no "budget mafia", just a case of these ministers & cronies padding the budget. The Budget Office, though equally guilty, have simply been made the scapegoat in the pathetic case.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by gsalvatore: 10:47am On Feb 18, 2016
Super1Star:


So you expect a President to go through 1,000 of pages? Whaoooo.

He will only look at the summarized version of the entire budget while the Minister will look at the summarized version of the Budget for his ministry.

Bros do you even read what you write or what?

The President is supposed to go through it...his minister (fec)also has to go through it and make recommendations before it's being sent to NASS.

But they didn't. So you want to tell me that of the Nass didn't find out this discrepancies and this fraud got passed at the House...whose government will it look bad on?

Nobody wants to take responsibility... The worst is even the poor masses/youth defending this level of incompetence.

Lemme ask you...when you say " while the Minister will look at the summarized version for the budget of his ministry ". Is it before it's sent to the house or when the house calls the Minister to defend /explain his ministry budget?

If its before it's sent to NASS... If the Minister finds a discrepancy on his budget, what will he do? Discuss it with the President? FEC? Or do you even think the Minister saw the final budget before it was sent to NASS?

Stop all these sentiments...the President himself even know he bleeped up...just don't know why you will be defending him...hiding behind I-know-how-things-work.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by OneManLegion(m): 11:00am On Feb 18, 2016
umehmj:
the self righteous PMB. If others are getting axed for the error riddled budget, it is only proper that he gets the bigger ax, like resign maybe. But no he won't. He is always right. He always have an alibi. I'm still surprised they haven't blamed GEJ for the mess. it's not too late to blame him though

I admire your sincerity; no doubt you demanded this much accountability from the vanquished GEJ under whose very able leadership stealing became different from corruption, yes?
Surely, it's not under PMB's leadership that you realised leaders should take responsibility for the negative actions and inactions of their government, is it?

Your whining will change nothing. It won't bring the man from Otueke back to the seat of power and it sure as hell won't make Buhari resign. All these bitter rantings on Nairaland will earn you nothing but "likes" from people who share your kind of benighted mindset.
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by gsalvatore: 11:05am On Feb 18, 2016
ocelot2006:
Last i checked, the presidency and other ministries ought to have gone through the final draft before submition. Besides it's not like released funds wouldve passed through the Budget Office. In my opinion there's no "budget mafia", just a case of these ministers & cronies padding the budget. The Budget Office, though equally guilty, have simply been made the scapegoat in the pathetic case.
Exactly!

The President like to put blame on people... He is the only man with integrity in the country..

It's easy...just go through the budget being sent to you...you didn't stress yourself to prepare it...just look at it...just read it...it's part of his duty..if not the most important.. But he didn't prolly more interested in his tours.

The way black man push blames or responsibility to others is mind boggling and come to think how we are gonna progress with this kinda mentality is another issue...

Cabal,Budget mafia, etc.. Nobody wants to take responsibility...

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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Ttalk: 11:08am On Feb 18, 2016
lookandlaff:



months of perfecting it you say? and who were the people he was perfecting it with all those months, no be civil servants? Was it not this same civil servants he was dealing with when he told us ministers are noise makers? He trusted the civil servants and they embarassed him. On your valid point about senate, well I can't answer that because this is not the 1st time dubious budgets have been presented to them and sailed through...maybe the senate this time finally decided to do it's job, dont forget this is a new senate.


On your final point I actually do think people are pathetic because if you cannot see that the civil servants are at fault here then it means your biases, either ibo v hausa or Pdp v apc is clouding your judgement. it's an embarrassment to the government no doubt but the incompetence/fraud cannot be put at the doorsteps of the ministers or Buhari. Like I said Buhari is going to screw up many things before his term is up and we will have the opportunity to objectively lambast him but this is not one of them, this is solely the result of a institutionalized corruption in the civil service.

While i agree with you that the civil servants are culpable, you cant completely exonerate the president for his sluggishness in sacking the perceived heads of agencies/departments Nigerians know are corrupt. Budget padding does not start today because it has always been the usual way of most civil and public servant.

The last four years has witness unprecedented increment in government budget from subsidy to overheads while capital expenditure continue to shrink. Buhari shouldnt have wait for this embarrassment before sacking these corrupt people hence his inaction has dented the image of his party, APC, and his own stand as upright person
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by paschu: 11:26am On Feb 18, 2016
lookandlaff:



months of perfecting it you say? and who were the people he was perfecting it with all those months, no be civil servants? Was it not this same civil servants he was dealing with when he told us ministers are noise makers? He trusted the civil servants and they embarassed him. On your valid point about senate, well I can't answer that because this is not the 1st time dubious budgets have been presented to them and sailed through...maybe the senate this time finally decided to do it's job, dont forget this is a new senate.


On your final point I actually do think people are pathetic because if you cannot see that the civil servants are at fault here then it means your biases, either ibo v hausa or Pdp v apc is clouding your judgement. it's an embarrassment to the government no doubt but the incompetence/fraud cannot be put at the doorsteps of the ministers or Buhari. Like I said Buhari is going to screw up many things before his term is up and we will have the opportunity to objectively lambast him but this is not one of them, this is solely the result of a institutionalized corruption in the civil service.

Sorry, you got it all wrong.

HERE IS MY OPINION

1. If it took the senate no time to discover the fraud, then any decent president should be able to discover it much faster. And Buhari did. He only went on to present it because it was his design.

2. Refusing to appoint ministers for six months was not an experiment, it was a well thought out strategy. And the aim was to eliminate every outside interferance in the production of the fraudlent budget. This also was the reason for the senate crisis - the need for absolute control so that this scam budget would scale through undetected. Unfortunately the whole thing has crashed.

3. The civil servants you talk about are just being used as scapegoats to divert public attention.

4. In reality however, these folks are not getting sacked due to the scam budget (in fact the label that's hung on most of them was their loyalty to PDP and their alleged corruption in 2015 elections - that's the old DGs). The ACTUAL reason for their sack is to create political rooms for APC loyalists.

5. An executive council that has the national interest at heart would be discussing ONLY economy AND security right now, but to show how clueless and heartless this one is, the priority is climate change. I would have laughed out loud, if not that this is so DIABOLICAL

6. Why do you still excuse this government?
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by paschu: 11:30am On Feb 18, 2016
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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by airsaylongcon: 11:36am On Feb 18, 2016
Super1Star:


So you expect a President to go through 1,000 of pages? Whaoooo.

He will only look at the summarized version of the entire budget while the Minister will look at the summarized version of the Budget for his ministry.


Is it the budget office that prepares the summarized versions?

And what really is the job of the Special Assistants et al? Aren't they the ones supposed to read the detailed budget? How come none of their heads is rolling?

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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by airsaylongcon: 11:39am On Feb 18, 2016
ziccoit:
Civil service is made up of lots of corrupt bunch. The best properties are not owned by the politicians but those corrupt civil servants. They are the one that teach politicians how to steal without being detected. No politician up to the president can steal today without the aid of these crooks. The rots in GEJ government were aided and supported by the CBN governor who is a civil servant.

The civil service, both private and public, requires overhauling which is urgently needed.

CBN governor a civil servant? Jeez. I know of the public civil service but can you enlighten me on private civil service?
Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by Ojezzzypopsy: 11:55am On Feb 18, 2016
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Re: Buhari Orders Mass Sackings At Budget Office by juman(m): 11:59am On Feb 18, 2016
HopeAlive14:
I hope the President is not sacking to save face.

The painful thing are the innocent workers who will fall victim in this exercise.

You are right. They are sacking them to save face.

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