dumo1:

Please what's the name of the app?

JW Library

paulGrundy:


How I wish the JW's in this forum reason like you, they even use the term ACCURATE and COMPLETE.

lol, they probably dont know about Russell's miracle seeds and his messy divorce saga + his lie lie prophesy which the "Holy spirit" inspired. Yet they're quick to nail other organisation and proclaim their's "Jehovah's true organisation".
It will surprise you, but one of them once told me that after the death of all the apostles and most of the early xtians, the work of God stopped and nobody was really representing God on earth till Russell came by and formed J.W. Can u imagine?

coachwilcox:



Im surprised you have so much information about witnesses and our present and past publications plus the apostate website jwfacts from where you draw all your information from.

You offer no alternative or better solution/doctrine or teachings better than what witnesses have to offer. You're obviously an apostate who

1. Was raised a witness and began to go back to the things behind.
2. Was disfellowshipped for wrongdoing and rather than repent and be reinstated have embarked on a campaign to discredit witnesses.
3. Fell in love with a witness girl and because she refused to marry you for not being a witness, you were left heartbroken and embarked on this campaign of hate.

All you do is dig into adjustments in scriptural understanding over the years and highlight it forgetting that even the early apostles had to reason from the scriptures on issues like circumcision and the likes for better understanding.

Catholics, Pentecostal churches and all regularly promote and practice unscriptural teachings and celebrations respectively THAT ARE NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE at all but when a witness adjusts thinking on certain matters you copy and paste this to discredit witnesses.

Well. i leave you with peters word in 2 Pet 2:1-3
However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among you. These will quietly bring in destructive sects, and they will even disown the owner who bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.2Furthermore, many will follow their brazen conduct, and because of them the way of the truth will be spoken of abusively.3Also, they will greedily exploit you with counterfeit words. But their judgment, decided long ago, is not moving slowly, and their destruction is not sleeping.

GBAM!!! u nailed it, may Jehovah bless u....just check dat guy's profile u will understand my point, he's purely an apostate

paulGrundy:


Am glad Jesus never restricted anyone or formed any group or denomination. The bible sAys he is the ONLY mediator (link) between God and man. So who are you following? JW or Jesus?

The question is this. Who are following in the pattern set by the early apostles and Jesus himself in early Bible times?

House to house preaching. Meeting at congregations? (even jesus himself endorsed this during his letter to the congregations in his revelation to John), we reject all doctrines that are not bible based from blood transfusion, trinity, purgatory, hellfire, immorality of the soul, image worship, etc,

Please click this link and read.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/

paulGrundy:


I don't plan on argueing with you, you can't argue facts, you state them. Well since you know, let me drop you with this;

The watchtower originally taught that NO ONE would make heaven, and that heaven is already complete.

It was later changed and stated they were not sure if heaven was complete, hence some can now make heaven.

For over 70 years it was held that the 144,000 were fully assigned by 1935.

"Logically, the calling of the little flock would draw to a close when the number was nearing completion, and the evidence is that the general gathering of these specially blessed ones ended in 1935." Watchtower 1995 Feb 15 p.19

If anyone since 1935 rightfully claimed to be anointed it was as a replacement of a sinful remnant, no longer worthy of heaven.

"For 19 centuries there was only the one calling, the heavenly one, with Jehovah being very selective as to who would serve with his Son to make up the Kingdom government. Many would be invited but only a precious few chosen. (Matthew 22:2, 14) In time the prescribed but limited number of 144,000 would be reached. After this no more would be anointed by holy spirit as witness that they had the heavenly hope, unless, in a rare occurrence, the unfaithfulness of one of the remaining 'chosen ones' made a replacement necessary." Watchtower 1982 Feb 15 p.30

In 2005, it was 70 years since the calling was said to have closed. Since a person cannot become anointed until after their baptism, the youngest of the 1935 anointed would have been around 15 in that year, and so in 2005 the youngest anointed from 1935 were already 85. In 2005, only a very small number of those from 1935 were still alive, and so most partakers would need to be considered replacements.

There are a number of holes it the idea that the heavenly call closed in 1935. [size=20pt]To start with, there is absolutely no Scriptural basis that the calling would close, let alone specifically in 1935 or any other year[/size] (this explains why you avoided my question). None of the Governing Body were even been born before 1935. Furthermore, there has been no decrease in partakers in over 35 years. This led to Watchtower finally admitting that this doctrine never had any basis.

"When does the calling of Christians to a heavenly hope cease? …
On the other hand, as time has gone by, some Christians baptized after 1935 have had witness borne to them that they have the heavenly hope. (Romans 8:16, 17) Thus, it appears that we cannot set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends.
How should a person be viewed who has determined in his heart that he is now anointed and begins to partake of the emblems at the Memorial? He should not be judged. The matter is between him and Jehovah. " Watchtower 2007 May 1 p.31

Check here for more truth: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/memorial-partakers.php

Centuries of deception at its worst!

Oga one simple fact solves dis ur whole long narations. U said we shud Check here for more truth: "http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/memorial-partakers.php". Unfortunately, dat is not & has never been by any means related to their website much of being their website. To d best of my knowledge, their site is "JW.org" & whatever info u wanna get is in there. Encyclopedia is alwz der to give u facts bout dem if u dn't wanna surf dey site. So dat makes ur write-up a falacy bro

Omagzee:


lol, they probably dont know about Russell's miracle seeds and his messy divorce saga + his lie lie prophesy which the "Holy spirit" inspired. Yet they're quick to nail other organisation and proclaim their's "Jehovah's true organisation".
It will surprise you, but one of them once told me that after the death of all the apostles and most of the early xtians, the work of God stopped and nobody was really representing God on earth till Russell came by and formed J.W. Can u imagine?

What of the one where they said that in 1919, Jesus made an invisible appearance on earth and then chose the WT as his mouth piece. This doctrine is still believed and taught till today.

Omagzee:
I attended the event too. I attend kingdom Hall meetings sometimes too and i am quite familiar with J.W doctrines.
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Abeg oooo, nobody mentioned Russel's miracle wheat seeds oo, nobody mentioned the fact that he was a divorcee, and the way he was treating his of wife was very contrary to bible standards which states that husbands and wives should submit to each other...hmmmmm.....
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He had a soft for mason. What of all the false prophecies? What of the one made by Russel himself which didnt come to pass?
Why are other christain organisation labelled false when clearly JW was built on falsehood? Did Russel made a claim which didnt come to pass? Yes he did!
He lost a lot of followers due to that prophesy which never came to pass.
And someone will tell me "we have amended our doctrines because our understanding of the bible has changed" . Lols. Why mend it? Shey watch tower say na una una church Holy spirit dae? (where is that in d bible)
Didnt watchtower state clearly that the Holy spirit "was only present in God's true earthly organisation (i.e JW)" and that all other christain organisation, was of the devil and which means the absence of the Holy spirit?
Where is that in the bible?
And if truely the organisation was inspired by the Holy spirit, then Russell's and some of the other prophecies would have come to pass....hmmmmm!!

I love J.W and i'll keep attenting meetings when i like, but i can never take some craps cus i no be dundy!!!

Brother, don't joke with your soul, I was a committed member and passionate, but I had a personal encounter with God, now I love JESUS, I have seen him spoken to me, he asked to stop masturbating and pornographic pictures, he showed me hell, that it is real, I HAVE seen him fight battles for me, healed me miraculously, don't risk your salvation, if you have this encounter, you will experience joy unspeakable.

Coachwilcox. Bro I don't know ur name but ur comments with the said sister, isn't biffting as 1 of Jehovah's servant's, hw do you think Jehovah would fill reading ur response with the sister, no matter her error, or what she has done. Jehovah God and his son Jesus christ still has her at heart and wishes the strayed flocks finds her way to Jehovah flock ones again.. Don't forget d admonition of Apostle Paul to in sighting one another to fyn works.

coachwilcox:


Well. If you were a regular pioneer and then proceeded to sleep with and elder and MS, I wonder many worldling you were giving it to as well before then.

jurjur:


Oga one simple fact solves dis ur whole long narations. U said we shud Check here for more truth: "http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/memorial-partakers.php". Unfortunately, dat is not & has never been by any means related to their website much of being their website. To d best of my knowledge, their site is "JW.org" & whatever info u wanna get is in there. Encyclopedia is alwz der to give u facts bout dem if u dn't wanna surf dey site. So dat makes ur write-up a falacy bro

That is not JW's website, but that site provides an accurate and all side view of the society, compared to jw.org which is very myopic.

Achorise:
if you guys in JW can stop criticism of other religions on ur pulpit by indoctrinating the minds of your members, you will go a long way by opening your minds for Jesus to take charge.

How can someone be in Brussel,and control the minds of millions without anyone raising an eyebrow.

what are you saying?, must u say something because every other person is saying? what's Brussel? Biko park well

Achorise:
Brother, don't joke with your soul, I was a committed member and passionate, but I had a personal encounter with God, now I love JESUS, I have seen him spoken to me, he asked to stop masturbating and pornographic pictures, he showed me hell, that it is real, I HAVE seen him fight battles for me, healed me miraculously, don't risk your salvation, if you have this encounter, you will experience joy unspeakable.

bro, what are u saying? I dont understand your riddles at all...Are u saying i am lying or what? plsssss o, put me thru

irunooboo:



i was a regular pioneer before i slept with the elder and MS. but now i hate JW and kingdom hall

they need help, help them.I was once a member, since I met JESUS my life has changed tremendously. look for a good church to know God better.

paulGrundy:




What of the one where they said that in 1919, Jesus made an invisible appearance on earth and then chose the WT as his mouth piece. This doctrine is still believed and taught till today.

hahahaahaaaahaaaaa
hahaahahahahaahha, see confirm lie na.

paulGrundy:


That is not JW's website, but that site provides an accurate and all side view of the society, compared to jw.org which is very myopic.

they way you have invested your time in misinforming the public about JW eh, if only u can invest such time in oda dealings who knows? ......why the hate? I can see serious hatred in you, FYI JW are waxing stronger by the day because Jehovah's spirit is operating on them, why don't you park your apostate life somewhere and ask yourself Life's big questions?

paulGrundy:




What of the one where they said that in 1919, Jesus made an invisible appearance on earth and then chose the WT as his mouth piece. This doctrine is still believed and taught till today.

Paul Grundy. In the 12Th century and medieval times the Catholic Church burned people at the stake for translation or possession of the bible until the king James version was translated to English from Latin. Today homosexuality is endorsed.

Have you submitted one post slating the Catholic Church for inquisitions and heresy trials in the past 400 to 500 years? No!!! All you've done is copy information from jwfacts on past understanding and refinements in same.

Pls open up your mind. If you're not a JW but want to learn about us, go to www.jw.org. Fill a request for a home bible study and maybe visit the local branch office in yourcountry. Then ask all your questions.

Stop relying on everything you read on the Internet.

Omagzee:


bro, what are u saying? I dont understand your riddles at all...Are u saying i am lying or what? plsssss o, put me thru

I mean no harm or any hard feelings, what I'm saying is , I was once a member of Jehovah's witnesses, if you are member be committed, If you have doubts , sincerely ask God to reveal himself to you , he will. or look for truthful church and worship him there. Because the safety of your soul is paramount.

coachwilcox:


The question is this. Who are following in the pattern set by the early apostles and Jesus himself in early Bible times?

House to house preaching.

Funny thing is that the early church didn't do house to house preaching, they preached at market places, olympias and public squares. Mass-media is even more effective method than door to door.

Meeting at congregations? (even jesus himself endorsed this during his letter to the congregations in his revelation to John)

Catholics, pentecostals e.t.c congregate at a church, just that I have seen NO WHERE in the bible where kingdom hall was mentioned.

we reject all doctrines that are not bible based from blood transfusion, trinity, purgatory, hellfire, immorality of the soul, image worship, etc,

Please click this link and read.
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/

Unitarians do not believe in hell fire, pentecostals don't believe in image worship, purgatory.
Oness pentecostals don't believe in trinity. Church of christ, 7th day adventist do not believe in the immortality of the soul. Watchtower blood transfusion doctrine has taken a 90% reversal change.

kashflynn:
Coachwilcox. Bro I don't know ur name but ur comments with the said sister, isn't biffting as 1 of Jehovah's servant's, hw do you think Jehovah would fill reading ur response with the sister, no matter her error, or what she has done. Jehovah God and his son Jesus christ still has her at heart and wishes the strayed flocks finds her way to Jehovah flock ones again.. Don't forget d admonition of Apostle Paul to in sighting one another to fyn works.

I'm sorry about my response my brother. Maybe this is counselling I need to show more compassion and welcome inactive ones. I just dislike sisters dragging our name in the mud because of sex.

Achorise:
I mean no harm or any hard feelings, what I'm saying is , I was once a member of Jehovah's witnesses, if you are member be committed, If you have doubts , sincerely ask God to reveal himself to you , he will. or look for truthful church and worship him there. Because the safety of your soul is paramount.

i am not a member, although i do attend "kingdom meetings" at times. So why did you leave ?

okitz4:


what are you saying?, must u say something because every other person is saying? what's Brussel? Biko park well

Nwanne, No vex, no hard feelings, I was supposed to say pennslyvenia.

coachwilcox:



Paul Grundy. In the 12Th century and medieval times the Catholic Church burned people at the stake for translation or possession of the bible until the king James version was translated to English from Latin. Today homosexuality is endorsed.

Have you submitted one post slating the Catholic Church for inquisitions and heresy trials in the past 400 to 500 years? No!!! All you've done is copy information from jwfacts on past understanding and refinements in same.

Pls open up your mind. If you're not a JW but want to learn about us, go to www.jw.org. Fill a request for a home bible study and maybe visit the local branch office in yourcountry. Then ask all your questions.

Stop relying on everything you read on the Internet.

But at least the papacy are not claiming monopoly to the truth, there is no retrogression and contradiction in their “brighter light" and they have publicly apologized for their inquisitions and trails. Although I don't agree with all they teach.

Hello dear am shocked at the way my fellow Christian Brothers has been responding to u on this trend... I no ur angry nd u wld always have that anger in u for what happened I used to feel that way myself once upon a time, but bear in mind that humans wronged u nd not Jehovah himself nd that the elders themselves are humans nd imperfect once at that, there have been several occasions where elders where dropped nd reproved for over stepping their boundaries or abusing their powers nd alot of reform has been put in place which u might not be aware of.... But I want you to know that no matter ur errors Jehovah still loves you and wishes that some day u return back to the flock nd pls do me a favor Vist the website JW. ORG and download the newly released brochure Return to Jehovah, it's just 16pages long.. Thanks I pray u make out time to get it nd read it nd i have u in my prayers nd am sure majority of the Jehovah servant world wide still have all inactive one's in their prayer, and some day while this old system continue u cld return to activate state nd used ur experience to encourage many young star's in Jehovah's service Goodnight

irunooboo:



i was a regular pioneer before i slept with the elder and MS. but now i hate JW and kingdom hall

Omagzee:

hahahaahaaaahaaaaa
hahaahahahahaahha, see confirm lie na.

“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

Scriptural proof?? None??

kashflynn:
Hello dear am shocked at the way my fellow Christian Brothers has been responding to u on this trend... I no ur angry nd u wld always have that anger in u for what happened I used to feel that way myself once upon a time, but bear in mind that humans wronged u nd not Jehovah himself nd that the elders themselves are humans nd imperfect once at that, there have been several occasions where elders where dropped nd reproved for over stepping their boundaries or abusing their powers nd alot of reform has been put in place which u might not be aware of.... But I want you to know that no matter ur errors Jehovah still loves you and wishes that some day u return back to the flock nd pls do me a favor Vist the website JW. ORG and download the newly released brochure Return to Jehovah, it's just 16pages long.. Thanks I pray u make out time to get it nd read it nd i have u in my prayers nd am sure majority of the Jehovah servant world wide still have all inactive one's in their prayer, and some day while this old system continue u cld return to activate state nd used ur experience to encourage many young star's in Jehovah's service Goodnight

Don't waste your time, you are feeding an internet troll, just do a little search on her profile.

paulGrundy:


“The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in 1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as the Governing Body, they act as “the faithful and discreet slave.” jw.org 2012 Annual Meeting Report

Scriptural proof?? None??

you see? This is hypocrisy na, formulating theory which has no biblical basis, yet they're the one and only true Jehovah's organisation oo

Achorise:
Nwanne, No vex, no hard feelings, I was supposed to say pennslyvenia.

lol, Baba we don't take instructions from one person, u claimed to be a JW before, since u have been in the faith, u should know how it is run, you are certainly saying wat u don't know and understand

U welcome my brother. Nd i advice u stop battling words with them, we don't need to prove Jehovah's organization to any 1. Jehovah is doing just fyn proving that himself, as many are beginning to feel the impact themselves by the good work Jehovah's is using his organization to accomplish here on earth, I mean the sign is clear for every one to see... Since the inception of our website alot of wrong perception of Jehovah's witness has changed many who has been denied access to our publication na get through their smart devices. I mean the signs is clear for any one to see, so my brother abeg ehnn use ur mb take do another thing, better still use am take download current video related for ur territory wey u go carry go field service tomorrow, abi u no get plans to go field service tomorrow No dey give urself headache bros, remember every one is entitled to his own opinion... Goodnight Victory from persali cong kuje Abuja

coachwilcox:


I'm sorry about my response my brother. Maybe this is counselling I need to show more compassion and welcome inactive ones. I just dislike sisters dragging our name in the mud because of sex.

paulGrundy:


Russel derived has 1914 teachings from pyramidology (free masonary concept), even Russel himself did not deny it. This link would also show so many other occultic teachings that the watchtower has rejected, except for 1914 which was modified.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/davinci-freemason.php

thanks for the link. Honestly, feel educated. So questions have been and others raised.

Omagzee:


i am not a member, although i do attend "kingdom meetings" at times. So why did you leave ?

my brother, I was leaving in hypocrisy, most of the witnesses around were leaving in pretence but they condemned other churches alot, my mum was not an exception, I wanted to know God for real not based on doctrine and religion, I saw those born again Jehovah's witnesses condemned better in purity and holiness, .And I love God, I cried and prayed, telling him I wanted to know him personally, one day I had an angelic visitation, and a personal encounter with Jesus, He showed me his love for me, He also asked me to stop masturbating, and pornographic pictures, cos that was a huge challenge for me,.I have seen him fought battles for me, bro I have joy unspeakable, JESUS is more real than anything, I doubted hell, untill he showed me hell.Bro, nothing happens in my family without God revealing it to me.My Elder sister was baptized there, but now he has encountered JESUS, she also left.She is more happier and fulfilled. The testimony is uncountable. If you want us to talk on phone for more experiences, you can ask for my number, don't joke with your soul for anything.

Achorise:
my brother, I was leaving in hypocrisy, most of the witnesses around were leaving in pretence but they condemned other churches alot, my mum was not an exception, I wanted to know God for real not based on doctrine and religion, I saw those born again Jehovah's witnesses condemned better in purity and holiness, .And I love God, I cried and prayed, telling him I wanted to know him personally, one day I had an angelic visitation, and a personal encounter with Jesus, He showed me his love for me, He also asked me to stop masturbating, and pornographic pictures, cos that was a huge challenge for me,.I have seen him fought battles for me, bro I have joy unspeakable, JESUS is more real than anything, I doubted hell, untill he showed me hell.Bro, nothing happens in my family without God revealing it to me.My Elder sister was baptized there, but now he has encountered JESUS, she also left.She is more happier and fulfilled. The testimony is uncountable. If you want us to talk on phone for more experiences, you can ask for my number, don't joke with your soul for anything.

that is exactly what i am saying, the pretense is just too much jare. Good for u bro, i hope i encounter Jesus soon. I am fed up of all the pastors, the preachers, the priest and all the brother John (s) and sister Mary(s).

okitz4:


lol, Baba we don't take instructions from one person, u claimed to be a JW before, since u have been in the faith, u should know how it is run, you are certainly saying wat u don't know and understand

Don't sound paranoid.You know the so called society controls everything, you dare not ask questions. A boy in ABK eat your communion bread and wine, he's not even a member, just an invitee to memorial service. What do you make out of it bro.I won't condem, but critically examine some of your doctrines objectively.

Omagzee:


that is exactly what i am saying, the pretense is just too much jare. Good for u bro, i hope i encounter Jesus soon. I am fed up of all the pastors, the preachers, the priest and all the brother John (s) and sister Mary(s).

Don't be tired, we are in the end time, you will see more of these things, this is the time, I will put you in prayers. But eternity is real.If you can sincerely pray to him always. He will show up for you.I will be praying for you, God has used me to changed alot of youths, if I was told I will stay for 7yrs without masturbating or watching porn, or making Love I wouldn't believe.Please bro be strong. I will put you in prayers. If you wish you can me 08064288968 or watsapp.