mekaboy:


Are u indirectly attacking APC? handed over the treasury to vultures. You mean Amechi and the governors that refused to save because they wanted to use the money to install the current president.

Which promise has this administration kept?
If this president has the will to fight corruption how come he is not saving the excess crude funds?

How come he is not fighting those that funded his campaign?

Amaechi and the Govs demanded for the share of the states which they got, like the prodigal son.

Where is the Federal Govt share of the money? Was it not looted enmasse by the Mandela of Otuoke And his Vultures of cohorts?

If the states had failed to ask for their share of the fund, will Doyin Okupe's Jesus Xt not have looted it?

papparatzzi2013:


Amaechi and the Govs demanded for the share of the states which they got, like the prodigal son.

Where is the Federal Govt share of the money? Was it not looted enmasse by the Mandela of Otuoke And his Vultures of cohorts?

If the states had failed to ask for their share of the fund, will Doyin Okupe's Jesus Xt not have looted it?

Good question. So we r now fighting federal corruption because Gej is there abi ?

Ok federal govt paid salaries how come states that got their share could not?

So it's ok for Amechi to divert state funds to fund election as aledged abi?

That's not corruption abi?

mekaboy:


Are u indirectly attacking APC? handed over the treasury to vultures. You mean Amechi and the governors that refused to save because they wanted to use the money to install the current president.

Which promise has this administration kept?
If this president has the will to fight corruption how come he is not saving the excess crude funds?

How come he is not fighting those that funded his campaign?

I was referring to those that " sat down and share our money like they're having dinner"

mekaboy:


Your parents are demonstrating for the untold hardship they are facing outside and your at home typing rubbish. Have u been able to meet the president for free today?

common shutup small boy, I work hard and pay my own bills , I'm independent ...

Silly children everywhere, thinking everyone is the same...

cktheluckyman:


Has Buhari proven to be a better manager? Can you compare the state of the economy today to what it used to be during GEJ's time?

Oga can you compare the price of oil between now and then?

PaulkillermanAg:
common shutup small boy, I work hard and pay my own bills , I'm independent ...

Silly children everywhere, thinking everyone is the same...

You sound independent of the govt and economy, where r u typing from?

mekaboy:


Good question. So we r now fighting federal corruption because Gej is there abi ?

Ok federal govt paid salaries how come states that got their share could not?

So it's ok for Amechi to divert state funds to fund election as aledged abi?

That's not corruption abi?

What the states did with their share of the fund is inconsequential on this thread because it is not in tandem with the topic of the thread.

Going to the topic, the same FG that kept it's share of the fund was borrowing money to pay salaries, under our own profession very dear Drunken Master of Otuoke.

Was it t Govs that collected the FG share too?

Is that not a classical example of incompetency of the highest order. Thi was a nation that had 62bn USD as savings when our dear IB took over.

bender79:
Oga can you compare the price of oil between now and then?

APC always hiding their incompetence behind oil.

Why are they then driving 2016 land cruisers with the low oil price?

Why spend more on aso rock health clinic than Gej?

Why not maintain the furniture and computers in Aso Rock from last year? How much was budgeted for these?

How come the current oil price does not affect their spending on themselves?

Lai Mohammed needs to travel with 13 million in this oil price.

Forget that oil price, it is only used to deceive Nigerians.

papparatzzi2013:


What the states did with their share of the fund is inconsequential on this thread because it is not in tandem with the topic of the thread.

Going to the topic, the same FG that kept it's share of the fund was borrowing money to pay salaries, under our own profession very dear Drunken Master of Otuoke.

Was it t Govs that collected the FG share too?

Is that not a classical example of incompetency of the highest order. Thi was a nation that had 62bn USD as savings when our dear IB took over.

Are u now saying the burden of the federal govt is less than the state?

What the state did with their funds is inconsequential, but u accused Gej for corruption and bringing hardship on the people.

The actions federal and state govt which affects the common man directly?

FirstCounsel:

Thanks my brother. You got it!

So this one we dey better pass abi
Do you ve a home to run?





long live

mekaboy:


Are u now saying the burden of the federal govt is less than the state?

What the state did with their funds is inconsequential, but u accused Gej for corruption and bringing hardship on the people.

The actions federal and state govt which affects the common man directly?

Read what you posted and re-phrase.

The actions and inactions of FG affects all, while that of the State affects the people in.that state, because the state is a subset of the FG.

GEJ is the overall head. If he is corrupt, like he was, of course others will follow suit an vice versa.

Who increased the fuel price? Who is controlling inflation? Who determines the direction of the economy of the country during the course course the year by Appropriation Bill? Why was everything in the country grounded when the Budget had not been passed?

Answer all that and you will have the answer to your question.

Indigenes of a state will drag there corrupt Gov to EFCC and not the whole new Nigeria. The whole o Nigeria will drag a federal worker or office holder to EFCC, if found to be corrupt.

papparatzzi2013:


Read what you posted and re-phrase.

The actions and inactions of FG affects all, while that of the State affects the people in.that state, because the state is a subset of the FG.

GEJ is the overall head. If he is corrupt, like he was, of course others will follow suit an vice versa.

Who increased the fuel price? Who is controlling inflation? Who determines the direction of the economy of the country during the course course the year by Appropriation Bill? Why was everything in the country grounded when the Budget had not been passed?

Answer all that and you will have the answer to your question.

Indigenes of a state will drag there corrupt Gov to EFCC and not the whole new Nigeria. The whole o Nigeria will drag a federal worker or office holder to EFCC, if found to be corrupt.

Good I love the way u shoot urself on the foot. So since the blame goes to federal. Then who is responsible for the inflation from 9 to 13% in 1 year?

Whose action and inaction have led to job losses?

Who is responsible for the 350 naira a dollar and 145 petrol.

Yes Gej is to be blamed for 9% inflation maintained in 5yrs, who is responsible for the 13% it rose to in 1 year?

So the comparison is between Gej and PMB and life was better under Gej from all figures and not sentiments.

@Babadee. Brother you fall my hand on this. You needn't explain these things to them again.

Shoulda let em roll.

Huh! You see,gej 's pdp is the same as bubu's apc...so,politician are all same,they serve same purpose.it is only the gullible ones that think of oppositions in politics.

cktheluckyman:


In what way exactly is Buhari better than GEJ?

Buhari is not better than Jonathan. Both are different and none is good to preside over the affairs of a country like Nigeria.

mekaboy:


Is this the type Nigeria needs ?

No. Both are not competent in their different perculiarities and can't preside over a country like Nigeria.

cktheluckyman:
Because he was from a minority tribe!!

Was he from a majority tribe when Nigerians voted for him in 2011?

bender79:
Even though he was a good democrat...he couldn't manage our finances...

Gentility is now synonymous with democracy?

mekaboy:
They said he is a fraud, insensitive and does not care about Nigerians. That's why he wants to remove subsidy.

Today they have removed it.

They said he increased fuel to 97. Today it's 150 and above.

They said 5000 MW of electricity generated under him was poor and fixing power is not rocket science.

Today we hardly have up to 2000.

They said dollar was selling at 250 and we can't survive it. Today it's 350.

They said his agriculture initiatives was not good enough. Today a bag of rice sells for thrice the price.

They said there r no jobs. Today even those that have jobs have lost it.

They complained about inflation at about 7-9% , today it is 13.7%.

They said his economic growth and position was fake
today we are sliding to recession.

So what exactly was the crime he committed ? What exactly have we changed to ? Were people feed up of good governance and wanted bad? Or where they deceived?

GEJ was removed primarily because of his total disregard for the prevailing corruption under his nose, he even made matters worse with his glaring support, public defense and his glorification of corruption; in simple words, GEJ legalised corruption and that's one of the biggest reasons why he was kicked out.

The trust factor is the reason why Nigerians kicked against subsidy removal in 2012; how can you say people (cabal) stole subsidy funds, yet while you showed absolutely no resolve to go after these people first, you turn around to punish Nigerians by removing subsidy and then you claim that it is the best way to punish the cabal that had already cornered $6.8bn?... Nigerians said a Capital No! to that because it was the most irresponsible excuse ever. Today the situation is clearly different, the reason for removing subsidy today is purely because the government is dead broke and on life-support, it's not because the government doesn't want to go after some of its 'friends.'

Regarding power, Nigeria had a power generating capacity of 5000mw under GEJ, but dont try to act like you have amnesia, the fluctuation from 5000-2000-1500-4000-3000 etc was also experienced under GEJ, and it was mainly due to the devilish 'cabal' who kept cutting gas supply to power stations to ensure our power problems were never fixed; I remember Prof Nebo referring to these cabals as witches and wizards and he vowed he would crush them (he never did). Unfortunately, it appears this cabal has intensified efforts now under Buhari by blowing up strategic gas pipelines leading to power stations every single time the pipelines are fixed. I believe it is now more politically motivated more than ever before.

Every other thing you mentioned, including the forex crises, value of the Naira, the cost of rice, the job losses, the inflation, the GDP growth etc are purely effects of global oil prices; without being sentimentally biased in your judgement, you would agree with me that things started nosediving as soon as oil prices began dropping, long before Buhari even won the election.

In summary, GEJ was a good man, but he was liverless, incompetent and just couldn't handle Nigeria's finances. That was how he squandered the massive goodwill he enjoyed from Nigerians in 2010-2012 and he also squandered the mega-oil income boom which Nigeria enjoyed under his reign. Today Buhari is obviously failing and if things continue like this, Buhari also will be booted out. I totally understand and appreciate the aspect of oil prices so I do not blame PMB for most of the economic woes which people blame him for; I only blame PMB for his rigid and very undiplomatic approach to leadership which has worsened some already existing problems like the militancy issue.

cktheluckyman:
Because he was from a minority tribe!!

omonozozo:
Because he is from South South.

If you myopically think GEJ was removed because he was from a minority tribe and from the SS zone, kindly explain why he was loved unconditionally and voted by all in 2011?...

Only die-hard, emotionally blinded tribalists have failed to see the trend; in 2011 GEJ was loved by all and was voted by the SE+SS+SW+NC, he even received large chunks of votes (35-45%) from some locations in the NW and NE which were supposed to be strongholds of Buhari. But fastforward to 2015, there was a major reversal and only the SE & SS stuck with GEJ. It doesn't require more than common sense to realise the incompetence factor which led to his failure and which pushed several people to withdraw their support for him in search for CHANGE.

Now Buhari is presently going down the same road to perdition, just imagine if things remain this bad (or even worse) in Nigeria till 2019? we dont need more than common sense to know that Buhari and his APC would be booted out (and then some myopic people would claim it is because he is fulani).

This is the exact reason why some PDP thugs keep blowing up gas pipelines to make sure the power outages persists, blowing up gas pipelines is purely political and has nothing to do with Niger-Delta struggle. The other day, as soon as it was reported that Kaduna and warri refineries were working and fuel queues began reducing, the pipeline taking crude to warri and kaduna refineries which were just fixed were blown up less than a week later. I don't need a soothsayer to tell me these are all the handiworks of PDP to ensure Nigerians suffer tremendously for voting APC.

mekaboy:


Tribalistic:- He never came out to discriminate based on the percentage of voters or supporters like the 5%.

Incompetent : Maintaining inflation bellow 9% and unemployment takes alot of competence compared to 13.7% and rising.

Corrupt: - who isn't among them? Is buhari blind to the accusations against Amechi? It took corrupt funds to get him there.

The 5% statement was more political than tribalistic, and yeah, GEJ made a similar unfortunate state when he openly boasted that people of Rivers State should vote Amaechi and APC out if they wanted federal presence.

The inflation rate and GDP growth rate of Nigeria has always been tied to oil prices. Don't let yourself be deceived; oil price goes up, our GDP rises and inflation falls. It had absolutely nothing to do with GEJ's competence, I can show you graphical and analytic proof from history if you so desire.

Hengineer:
GEJ was removed primarily because of his total disregard for the prevailing corruption under his nose, he even made matters worse with his glaring support, public defense and his glorification of corruption; in simple words, GEJ legalised corruption and that's one of the biggest reasons why he was kicked out.

The trust factor is the reason why Nigerians kicked against subsidy removal in 2012; how can you say people (cabal) stole subsidy funds, yet while you showed absolutely no resolve to go after these people first, you turn around to punish Nigerians by removing subsidy and then you claim that it is the best way to punish the cabal that had already cornered $6.8bn?... Nigerians said a Capital No! to that because it was the most irresponsible excuse ever. Today things have obviously changed, the reason for removing subsidy is purely because the government is darn broke, not because the government doesn't want to go after some of its 'friends.'

Regarding power, Nigeria had a capacity of 5000mw, but dthe fluctuation from 5000-2000-1500-4000-3000 etc was also experienced under GEJ, and it was mainly due to the 'cabal' who kept cutting gas supply to power stations to ensure our power problems were never fixed; I remember Prof Nebo referring to these cabals as witches and wizards. Unfortunately, it appears this cabal has intensified efforts now under Buhari by blowing up strategic gas pipelines leading to power stations. I believe it is now more politically motivated more than ever.

Every other thing you mentioned, including the forex crises and value of the Naira and the cost of rice and the jobs and the inflation are purely effects of global oil prices.

In summary, GEJ was a good man, but he was liverless, incompetent and just couldn't handle Nigeria's finances. That was why he squandered the massive goodwill he enjoyed from Nigerians in 2010-2012 and he also squandered the mega-oil income boom which Nigeria enjoyed under his reign.

If you myopically think GEJ was removed because he was from a minority tribe and from the SS zone, kindly explain why he was loved unconditionally and voted by all in 2011?...

Only die-hard, emotionally blinded tribalists have failed to see the trend; in 2011 GEJ was loved by all and was voted by the SE+SS+SW+NC, he even received large chunks of votes (35-45%) from some locations in the NW and NE which were supposed to be strongholds of Buhari. But fastforward to 2015, there was a major reversal and only the SE & SS stuck with GEJ. It doesn't require more than common sense to realise the incompetence factor which led to his failure and which pushed several people to withdraw their support for him in search for CHANGE.

Now Buhari is presently going down the same road to perdition, just imagine if things remain this bad (or even worse) in Nigeria till 2019? we dont need more than common sense to know that Buhari and his APC would be booted out (and then some myopic people would claim it is because he is fulani).

This is the exact reason why some PDP thugs keep blowing up gas pipelines to make sure the power outages persists, blowing up gas pipelines is purely political and has nothing to do with Niger-Delta struggle. The other day, as soon as it was reported that Kaduna and warri refineries were working and fuel queues began reducing, the pipeline taking crude to warri and kaduna refineries which were just fixed were blown up less than a week later. I don't need a soothsayer to tell me these are all the handiworks of PDP to ensure Nigerians suffer tremendously for voting APC.

Now subsidy is removed why isn't the anti corruption govt that we trust putting those who embezzled subsidy funds in jail? Some of them probably contributed to fund the his campaign.

PaulkillermanAg:
Because he was hopelessly foolish, and he still is, he took stealing of a country's fortune to a different height, it was something already existing, only for him to come and took it overboard, he rediculed our most exalted stool... Imagine a president , that before u see him, u have to pass tru alibis(most times his wife), that will be sorted with millions, before u can be anointed or "blessed" , even refusing to acknowledge his administration was rife with stealing(because he was championing it)
That man was the worst thing that happened to Nigeria, and I feel so disappointed that he happened to be my kinsman, makingba rediculed of himself, us, and Nigeria at large

The hatred I have for Jonathan, us something words cannot describe, my children will never hear good stories about him, seeing him walking down thee road free, is a bitter pill I have to deal with...

*I spit on that cretin***

WTF are you talking about.

Hengineer:
The 5% statement was more political than tribalistic, and yeah, GEJ made a similar unfortunate state when he openly boasted that people of Rivers State should vote Amaechi and APC out if they wanted federal presence.

The inflation rate and GDP growth rate of Nigeria has always been tied to oil prices. Don't let yourself be deceived; oil price goes up, our GDP rises and inflation falls. It had absolutely nothing to do with GEJ's competence, I can show you graphical and analytic proof from history if you so desire.

Has govt spending on itself reduced as a result of falling oil price?

mekaboy:


Now subsidy is removed why isn't the anti corruption govt that we trust putting those who embezzled subsidy funds in jail? Some of them probably contributed to fund the his campaign.

Bro, the easiest time to catch a thief is when the theft was fresh and could be easily traced. If Buhari decides to start chasing all those moneys, I can assure you he will surely fail, and we dont want that. A little example is Dasuki, we all know he stole but see how complex it is to even get him in prison.

mekaboy:


Has govt spending on itself reduced as a result of falling oil price?

If you ask me, na who I go ask?

mekaboy:


Are u now saying the burden of the federal govt is less than the state?

What the state did with their funds is inconsequential, but u accused Gej for corruption and bringing hardship on the people.

The actions federal and state govt which affects the common man directly?

You've not answered the questions you were asked.

Oil was selling at above N100.00 per barrel. "Hero" met savings of over 60 billion USD (according to an earlier poster) yet by the end of his tenure, we were [/b]back in debt[b], zero savings and [/b]He was borrowing money to pay salaries[b]!

Please find a real job. Pay-per post defending the indefensible is not it.

honeychild:


You've not answered the questions you were asked.

Oil was selling at above N100.00 per barrel. "Hero" met savings of over 60 billion USD (according to an earlier poster) yet by the end of his tenure, we were [/b]back in debt[b], zero savings and [/b]He was borrowing omoney to pay salaries[b]!

Please find a real job. Pay-per post defending the indefensible is not it.

And while u were making the country ungovernable, u did not know it cost the govt money?

Hope ur political and economic blindness does not become physical.

mekaboy:


And while u were making the country ungovernable, u did not know it cost the govt money?

Hope ur political and economic blindness does not become physical.

I say again, find a new job. So "Hero" used up the whole savings he met plus oil surplus windfall to fight BokoHaram for four years to no avail?

[/b]that's exactly why he was voted out![b]

honeychild:


I say again, find a new job. So "Hero" used up the whole savings he met plus oil surplus windfall to fight BokoHaram for four years to no avail?

[/b]that's exactly why he was voted out![b]

How much did the current meet and how much is left in 1 year of doing nothing?

babadee1:


You wailers will never cease to amuse. All the things you listed up there what do you think caused it? You think Buhari just came into power one day, waved a magic wand and the entire economy began to deteriorate overnight or what? Everything we're suffering today started from GEJ and the preceding administrations. That is the absolute FACT! Buhari didn't cause the problem he just hasn't solved it yet.
The only international market open to our country is oil. That market has totally collapsed. At the same time the previous administration wasted our foreign reserves on frivolous spending and corrupt practices. They refused to save or plan for the future. So don't be surprised that we are where we are today. The story would have been the same regardless of who won due to the lack of foresight exhibited during the previous years of plenty.

Russia's shares common problems with Nigeria;
*its economy is also dependent on export of oil and gas.
*it's country is also plagued with corruption.
*Russia is facing unrest with its neighbours, Ukraine
*Russia is battling sanctions from the west and USA and Nigeria is obviously not.
*it's weather and climate is comparatively bad with that of Nigeria.
*it's currency is sliding against the dollar.
*it's stock market have seen investor exit.

With the above and many more this is the current state of russia

So Nigeria and the APC led govt have No excuse!

bender79:
Even though he was a good democrat...he couldn't manage our finances...

He managed our resources efficiently
Foreign reserve is used to strengthen a nations local currency n that's what d foreign reserve we should v saved was used for.
Today, buhari doesn't even v an economic team that can manage 3 states effectively that's y our local currency is sliding, from 1 dollar to N215 to presently N380 ....still sliding..