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Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by DatNiggaAk(m): 3:36pm On Jan 28, 2010
there is something i've observed.
it's only on the internet that gay.gots accept that they are gay.gots
i'm a nocturnal animal (night crawler to some) because of the nature of my job.
i close btw 6-8pm daily so when i get home i chill out for about 3 hours
i normally leave the house at about 11pm to get my drink on.
i either hit a garden or go to a bar/pub where i meet my peers(cubana,kl, roxbury, Agura etc Abuja peeps)
i meet a lot of people and for once i've never met a muthafuka come out claiming he is gay.
even gay a.s.s muthafukas who look the look hustle chicks with us.
but when they get online they spew all the rhetorics about being proud to be gay,
gay loving equals civility, gay movt is akin to the black civil right movt of the 60's, BULLSH.IT!!!
If you're gay and fearless like you claim online, why hide in real life?
dumb a.s.s lily livered homos
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by SEFAGO(m): 3:40pm On Jan 28, 2010
ChinenyeN:

A society has a right to self-preservation.

Society
1. Even though they spout "tolerance", they're extremely intolerance of people who don't necessarily fall in line with, or agree with, or think contrary to their liberal mentality (more especially evident in talks of sexuality). They also seem intolerant of a society's right to self-preservation. Liberalism nowadays seems like cultural, moral, and economic socialism

Do you think the Ku klux klan should be tolerated or the British national party? If all views contrary to liberalism are given free rein then there really would be no freedom in the world. Of course liberals of to be intolerant of other views especially ignorant views grin. Speaking of right to self-preservation- what would you say if a white supremacists tells you that non-white minorities cause a lot of crime in western societies and have low literacy levels and such, and so these minorities should be segregated from them or not even allowed into western countries. The supremacist provides statistics- there are statistics I can assure you, and then this supremacist further states that "europeans"  have a right to cultural self-preservation and that no non-white should be allowed into western countries.

What would be your response? It seems perfectly logical to me  grin, except I am black of course LOL. They do have a right to preserve their culture dont they? Or are things a bit different because this scenario excludes people like you and you do feel some indignation and "moral" outrage but you have previous agreed about self-preservation.

What about Eugenics? Should short ugly unintelligent non- blue eyed and non-blonde people be removed from  the gene pool so as for some culture to preserve itself. Or do these people have a right to live based on their humanity alone?

Hence the major problem with claiming a moral law- supposed moral law is subjective and not based on Objective rational precepts.


No, Society's right to preservation does not in anyway trump its right to preserving the autonomy of its social units- its individuals.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by DatNiggaAk(m): 3:49pm On Jan 28, 2010
I FORGOT TO ADD.
even gay lovers & defenders of gay rights on the internet will never defend them in real life.
cowardly bunch
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by SEFAGO(m): 3:54pm On Jan 28, 2010
^ u shuld meet me
DatNiggaAk:

I FORGOT TO ADD.
even gay lovers & defenders of gay rights on the internet will never [b]defend them in real life.

cowardly bunch [/b]


Yeah right grin grin grin

U mean maybe in nigeria?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by jice(m): 4:07pm On Jan 28, 2010
It will be most unfortunate issue to be accepted in this great country of moralist.

You can be whatsoever you want to be in your house but don't come out to teach me that nonesense.

Ba Dan Dawudu!
Chim amakwe!
Ma gba gbe!
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Tudor6(f): 4:38pm On Jan 28, 2010
~Bluetooth:

No matter how peole may want recognition for gay right in nigeria,ther will continue to be strong oppostion against courtesy of[b] moralists like me[/b] who just can stand this barbaric act in our society.homosexuality is never about democray or freedom but about a few selfish sexually-deranged minors who just wnated any but to spread their lust around.

ha ha ha ha. . . Moralists like you? What have the so-called "moralists" like you done for this country?

Where were you with your "morals" when the military were rap.ing this country through the arse?

Where was your "moralists" when OBJ and co are looting this country?

Where were the "moralists" hiding when the government was increasing salary and allowances of national assembly members while the minimum wage is in a sorry state and salaries of doctors, teachers and co pitiful?

Is it only to sit behind a computer and claim moralist only to be ranting, huffing and puffing against gays only?

Dude put on a pink shirt, it might just suit you.lol
DatNiggaAk:

there is something i've observed.
it's only on the internet that gay.gots accept that they are gay.gots
i'm a nocturnal animal (night crawler to some) because of the nature of my job.
i close btw 6-8pm daily so when i get home i chill out for about 3 hours
i normally leave the house at about 11pm to get my drink on.
i either hit a garden or go to a bar/pub where i meet my peers(cubana,kl, roxbury, Agura etc Abuja peeps)
i meet a lot of people and for once i've never met a muthafuka come out claiming he is gay.
even gay a.s.s muthafukas who look the look hustle chicks with us.
but when they get online they spew all the rhetorics about being proud to be gay,
gay loving equals civility, gay movt is akin to the black civil right movt of the 60's, BULLSH.IT!!!
If you're gay and fearless like you claim online, why hide in real life?
dumb a.s.s lily livered homos

Since you are fearless why not march to Aso rock and demand change for nigeria? All the more easier since you live in Abuja and can jog to the presidential palace.

You have a sick absentee president, a non-functioning government and a national assembly which is a hub for corruption. Have you never read of the french, orange, cuban and islamic revolutions ALL CARRIED OUT BY FEARLESS PEOPLE LIKE YOU CLAIM TO BE.

But NO, you prefer to sit in a beer palour at 11pm, drink alcohol and make merry like everything is OK with your country while looking for ga.ys to bully. Who is the coward here?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ChinenyeN(m): 4:44pm On Jan 28, 2010
SEFAGO:

Do you think the Ku klux klan should be tolerated or the British national party? If all views contrary to liberalism are given free rein then there really would be no freedom in the world.
One unwritten rule of society is that the intolerant have to as well be tolerated, within reason. An intolerant society will fall.

SEFAGO:

Speaking of right to self-preservation- what would you say if a white supremacists tells you that non-white minorities cause a lot of crime in western societies and have low literacy levels and such, and so these minorities should be segregated from them or not even allowed into western countries. The supremacist provides statistics- there are statistics I can assure you, and then this supremacist further states that "europeans"  have a right to cultural self-preservation and that no non-white should be allowed into western countries.

What would be your response? It seems perfectly logical to me  grin, except I am black of course LOL. They do have a right to preserve their culture dont they? Or are things a bit different because this scenario excludes people like you and you do feel some indignation and "moral" outrage but you have previous agreed about self-preservation.

What about Eugenics? Should short ugly unintelligent non- blue eyed and non-blonde people be removed from  the gene pool so as for some culture to preserve itself. Or do these people have a right to live based on their humanity alone?

Hence the major problem with claiming a moral law- supposed moral law is subjective and not based on Objective rational precepts.


No, Society's right to preservation does not in anyway trump its right to preserving the autonomy of its social units- its individuals.
It seems you missed the part of my post where I stated that anything in excess is not good. Your quote above extensively highlights on excess; not good. Now, there is something called reasoning. In all things, use reasoning. And so, we try to use reasoning to balance between excess and not enough. A society still has a right to self-preservation, but within reason. The individuals as well have a right to autonomy, but within reason. There ought to be a balance between the autonomy of the social units as well as the society's right to self preservation, because too much (i.e. excessive) individual autonomy leads to the destruction of society [anarchy], and too much (i.e. excessive) self-preservation causes social dis-ease.

I'm not opting for one side over the other. Instead, I'm opting for moderation. Liberals, and liberalism, seem to naturally border and actively encroach into the realm of excessiveness. The self-contradictory, and double-standard nature of liberals and liberalism doesn't help their case either. Liberalism just isn't viable in the long run, [EDIT] and it doesn't equal progress.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by edoyad(m): 5:08pm On Jan 28, 2010
That's why i like Nigerians, they like to stick their head in the sand and act like it is not there and hope something happens before they pull their head from the sand ? Homosexuality was in the world before Jesus and Mohammed and will continue to be here till the sun stops to shine.
I'll say it one hundred times, i'd prefer to live with 100 productive homosexuals than live with 100 3rd heterosexuals
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by edoyad(m): 5:15pm On Jan 28, 2010
ie 100 3rd world heterosexuals
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 7:56am On Jan 29, 2010
what exactly does Nigeria gain by criminalizing homosexuality?

bettes:

The appropriate topic should have been Can Homosexuality Be Ever Recognised In Nigeria,talkless of legalizing,one craws before they leap,isn't it?Homosexuality is frowned upon in the Nigerian society and viewed as a taboo of the highest order(and rightly so).And it is make us in any way backward,in fact the likes of Archbishop Peter Akinola are  somewhat regarded as national heroes for leading a worldwide revolt against the ordination of gay bishops in the US anglican church.He was even listed twice as Time's top 100 most influential world figures for his boldness.

yup repression of homosexuals makes Nigeria a better place.   It's pretty hillarious guys like peter akinola are throwing hissy fits over homosexuality while the country is crumbling under them. 

It will be most unfortunate issue to be accepted in this great country of moralist.

great country of moralist indeed. no wonder you guys are at the TOP of corruption and religious intolerance indexes.
naija moralists kwenu
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by edoyad(m): 8:03am On Jan 29, 2010
^ Thank you. Na morality we go chop ? People starving, children hawking bread and every other thing on streets to survive and you're telling us of morality.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by jice(m): 8:37am On Jan 29, 2010
[tr][^ Thank you. Na morality we go chop ? People starving, children hawking bread and every other thing on streets to survive and you're telling us of morality.[/tr]

Note that man shall not leave on bread alone, you may eat your bread and also lose it.

Beyond moralities, we are talking Godliness which no society can throw away and still remain relevance. Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a disgrace to any people. Though we may allow them exist with us as it has been before the known religions started, any attempt to legalize it will spell doom for us.
Don’t ask me about the American states that have legalized it because God is slow to anger but he will never acquit the wicked.
This may be the American nemesis.
grin grin cry
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by SEFAGO(m): 8:40am On Jan 29, 2010
Beyond moralities, we are talking Godliness which no society can throw away and still remain relevance. Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a disgrace to any people. Though we may allow them exist with us as it has been before the known religions started, any attempt to legalize it will spell doom for us.
Don’t ask me about the American states that have legalized it because God is slow to anger but he will never acquit the wicked.
This may be the American nemesis.

U have brought religion into this. How do you know what God thinks? (if he actually exists)

Godliness ko, manliness ni grin
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by jice(m): 8:44am On Jan 29, 2010
@ SEFAGO

If God doesn’t exist in your life you are of all people the most miserable.
Mind your utterances towards the Supreme Being because judgement is knock at your door and destruction awaits anyone who denies God on earth and beyond. Be careful
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by SEFAGO(m): 8:47am On Jan 29, 2010
jice:

@ SEFAGO

If God doesn’t exist in your life you are of all people the most miserable.
Mind your utterances towards the Supreme Being because judgement is knock at your door and destruction awaits anyone who denies God on earth and beyond. Be careful


Hmm, believe what you want. I believe service to your fellow man transcends religion. When judgement comes I will deal with it. I will not only deny God on that day, I will slap him for his wickedness  cheesy Go and sleep little man
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 8:49am On Jan 29, 2010
jice:

[tr][^ Thank you. Na morality we go chop ?  People starving, children hawking bread and every other  thing on streets to survive and you're telling us of morality.[/tr]

Note that man shall not leave on bread alone,  you may eat your bread and also lose it.

Beyond moralities, we are talking Godliness which no society can throw away and still remain relevance. Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a disgrace to any people.  Though we may allow them exist with us as it has been before the known religions started, any attempt to legalize it will spell doom for us.
Don’t ask me about the American states that have legalized it because God is slow to anger but he will never acquit the wicked.
This may be the American nemesis.
grin grin cry


yeah all the 'righteouness" and "Godliness" is performing wonders in Nigeria.  A church and mosque in every block with nothing to show for it.  

legalizing homosexuality would lead to no such "doom".  The story of soddom and gomorrah is just a scare tactic then again some of you do believe a woman turned into salt by turning her back.  

I see no arguments against homosexuality besides morality (something which is very subjective)
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by jice(m): 8:51am On Jan 29, 2010
@ SAFEGO
you are as close to judgement as you to mercy. you have only two options. Good times in whichsoever you chose
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by SEFAGO(m): 8:52am On Jan 29, 2010
jice:

@ SAFEGO
you are as close to judgement as you to mercy. you have only two options. Good times in whichsoever you chose

Abeg I done hear. Let me be- shebi I am the one being judged, why u dey vex? All this moral indignation for nothin. Face the debate- who told you God is against homosexuality? How did it come to this world? The devil grin?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by DatNiggaAk(m): 9:04am On Jan 29, 2010
all you homosexuals and gay lovers here,
make all the noise you want.
homosexuality can NEVER be passed into law in Nigeria
i think we would soon pass a law suggesting the death sentence for such perverts.
gay lovers would also be charged as accessories and would recieve a life sentence, grin
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by igbogolo: 2:03pm On Jan 29, 2010
DatNiggaAk:

all you homosexuals and gay lovers here,
make all the noise you want.
homosexuality can NEVER be passed into law in Nigeria
i think we would soon pass a law suggesting the death sentence for such perverts.
gay lovers would also be charged as accessories and would recieve a life sentence, grin


I wont be surprised if u are gay. i have a friend i thought would shoot gays only to be caught in the act 2 years ago. you are not perfect just the same way gays might not be perfect. if they choose to share their dicks between themselves and consent to it, why is that your problem?
Even from your name, you cannot claim to be a custodian of virtue or morals. its an open secret that even the so called people in abuja, parading the national assembly complex as senators or house of rep members are closet gays.
Like someone said on this thread, we have other pressing things facing us in this country. if someone is gay and he/she is a good leader and can bring change and prosperity, i will vote for him. Simple!
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by DatNiggaAk(m): 2:41pm On Jan 29, 2010
igbogolo:

I wont be surprised if u are gay. i have a friend i thought would shoot gays only to be caught in the act 2 years ago. you are not perfect just the same way gays might not be perfect. if they choose to share their dicks between themselves and consent to it, why is that your problem?
Even from your name, you cannot claim to be a custodian of virtue or morals. its an open secret that even the so called people in abuja, parading the national assembly complex as senators or house of rep members are closet gays.
Like someone said on this thread, we have other pressing things facing us in this country. if someone is gay and he/she is a good leader and can bring change and prosperity, i will vote for him. Simple!

YOU CAUGHT THAT YOUR FRIEND yanshing YOU RIGHT?
gays and gay lovers are the same
sick minds,
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by igbogolo: 4:52pm On Jan 29, 2010
DatNiggaAk:


YOU CAUGHT THAT YOUR FRIEND yanshing YOU RIGHT?
gays and gay lovers are the same
sick minds,


Gay matters give YOU an erection and gets you so TURNED on. otherwise, why are you hanging around a gay topic? If you are so appaled as you would like us to admit, why not move on and not take a passing interest on threads discussing homosexuality?
You are a hypocrite, same as all open gay bashers who would go to the back to squeeze same sex arses.

'Yanshing me'?
what on Gods earth is that? seems you know gay slangs better than everyone here.
If you are so pure, why dont u just die and go to heaven?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ChinenyeN(m): 4:54pm On Jan 29, 2010
I simply say no to the legalization of homosexuality, but I have no problem with decriminalizing it.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by edoyad(m): 5:34pm On Jan 29, 2010
@igbogolo, that's some real funny ish grin
The truth is that we have govts that are very dysfunctional in this part of the world and all they seem to do is to distract people from the main issues. You hate immoral homosexual countries but you want them to send their homosexual money to your country as aid right ?
A person who is moral enough to disapprove of homosexuals but comfortably loot billions (that would have built hospitals and saved lives) to donate to church and become a pastor or build a marble mosque in his village, typical Nigerian.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 6:07pm On Jan 29, 2010
edoyad:

@igbogolo, that's some real funny ish grin
The truth is that we have govts that are very dysfunctional in this part of the world and all they seem to do is to distract people from the main issues. You hate immoral homosexual countries but you want them to send their homosexual money to your country as aid right ?
A person who is moral enough to disapprove of homosexuals but comfortably loot billions (that would have built hospitals and saved lives) to donate to church and become a pastor or build a marble mosque in his village, typical Nigerian.

hiding under the morality umbrella is an effective way to distract people (especially Nigerian). Northern governors realized the benefits of this by implementing sharia law. See how big of a crook the governor of zamfara was?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Sagamite(m): 2:53am On Feb 03, 2010
Tudór:

What don't you get? You said if heterosexual anal. intimacy were illegal in a country, anyone caught should face the full length of the law(which my even be death). . .my question, is this right?

If there is a country that says if you look at the leader, your head should be cut off, then follow the laws. The reality is that no such country exists as no people find such that vulgar, neither would they find annal-secks that vulgar. So stop trying to create unrealistic, impossible scenarios to back up your argument.

Tudór:

No need to resort to dishonesty. Racial discrimination doesn't necessarily have to be about "superiority". It simply can be about hate/dislike. Same goes for ethnicism, ageism, anti-semitism etc

You dislike/hate hence discriminate. A blackman might discriminate against a mullato because he thinks he's an abomination and it has nothing to do with superiority.

Sometimes people just discriminate against others, just because they are different.

The core of Racial discrimination is more often than not "superiority" or reactvie animosity eminating from perceived persecution.


Tudór:

Now its for these same reasons the homosexuals are vilified, why? Because y'all think they're an "abomination", "different", "animals" etc.This lame "natural" argument again.

Homosexuals are rejected (not vilified, a term used for righteous people, not deviants) due to the abhorrence of their abnormality.

Tudór:

Since when did we approve and legislate based on occurence or non-occurence in nature?

It has always been one of the core of law making. It has been right from history and still to this day in EVERY country in the world.

Tudór:

Incest, r.ape, violence and murder ALL occur in nature i.e natural why then do we frown against them?

That shows all those are natural instincts. But as a society with thinking ability we find it harmful to our society.

Let me restate my argument, so you don't misinteprete it again:

"There is nothing that we, humans, do that is natural that does not exist naturally in some other species of animals."

This does NOT mean/imply/equate to (basically it is completely different from) the reverse statement:

"There is nothing that animals do that is natural that does not exist naturally in humans."

Tudór:

Polygamy is rampant in the animal kingdom i.e NATURAL, why is it illegal?

Go ask your whites. I have no objection.

Tudór:

Pae.dophilia sometimes occur in stoats, why not approve?

Explain.

Tudór:

Animals have also been known to exhibit homosexuality albeit in captivity, so kini big deal?

I like you.

At least you are not trying to bluff me by claiming there are homo animals.

The fact it happens in "captivity" shows it is not natural. Non-homosexual humans also behave in a crazed sexual way in captivity.

Tudór:

Who cares if they did it on the moon, in a cage or under the sea, the important thing is they were attracted to an animal of the same intimacy. i.e they at least considered it. But the way you all are acting like such feelings dropped down from the sun and won't even be considered by an animal is baffling.

It is not natural, such feelings can come from 2 possibilities:

1) Choice

Jail

2) A dysfunction in the human system due to environmental influences

Don't accept it, cure it.

Tudór:

I don't see why not, we were all born na.ked, no?
You'd be suprised how culture and religion can be easily changed with rigorous campaigning.

So you are another nihilist.

Well, unfortunately you would never get your lawless society you desire.

Tudór:

Religion and culture of some groups support marriage of underage girls and FGM, is it any wonder how the figures have been drastically reduced.

One sometimes sweet and wonderful thing about religion is it can be twisted and moulded to accomodate anything which will even be better when the adherents are *secretly* open to the idea. The capacity of the human to deceive himself shouldn't be underestimated. From vehemently opposing evolution and the big bang earlier now You see them trying to decieve themselves that the bible or koran talks about the big bang, evolution, boyles law, genetics etc

Its already happening in christianity starting with the anglicans and very soon others will fall in line,

I don't do religion so I am not the one to preach to.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by otitoju1: 12:27am On Jun 08, 2010
I honestly do not think it is a good idea to legalize homosexuality in Nigeria,but several people may disagree based on their sexual orientation.

At least i know people like Segun olaleye aka segun gele will strongly agree that it should be legalized.At least,it will no longer be an issue to hold the hands of any of his partners and even kiss in public.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by tck2000(m): 2:04pm On Dec 18, 2019
posakosa:
Homosexuality will never be legalized in Nigeria. Its not even legalized in America.
True
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Dedetwo(m): 2:17pm On Dec 18, 2019
[quote author=chukwunany post=4628423]The high rate of which the pracise of homosexaulity is increasing in nigeria is a very big suprise to me. must person talk about it as if its right to practise

i don't know is anything wrong with homosexaul practise in nigeria? [/]quote]

You are a very funny dude. How could be a surprise on the instance of high rate homosexuality acts in Nigeria and yet posited a question about anything wrong with such silly acts? Are you on a fishing expedition?

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