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Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Sagamite(m): 10:05pm On Jan 26, 2010
spikedcylinder:

Sagamite, you are always on these gay threads.
Come out of the closet. tongue


As long as your ikebe remains set like 2 kilimanjaro peaks, I will always be straight and be on the bed with you than the closet. grin
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by chic2pimp(m): 10:09pm On Jan 26, 2010
edoyad:

What does a love-vendor know ? This matter is between us homosexuals, leave me alone angry
Your sexual orientation is a foregone conclusion. Anyone with two eyes can tell you are Gay especially with those erect nipples of yours  sticking out like a sour thumb. tongue grin cheesy
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Sagamite(m): 10:13pm On Jan 26, 2010
chic2pimp:

You too see am cheesy.
Don't mind Saga jare grin. I no know wetin homos do am undecided

As I said, wetin them do behind close door no concern me.

I had little regards for the topic until I came to this bleeping country and the social policy by government and media is they try and ram acceptance of gay down your throat and if you no accept, you are a bigot.

Acceptance of homosexuality became the sole metric to judge if you are open-minded or liberal. In the UK, if you have Arab friends, white girlfriend, one of your kids practice Judaism and the other Buddhaism, shared a flat with Chinese and Latinos in university, eat their food, go to their worship and events but you don't approve of homosexuality then you are not liberal, open-minded or progressive. That sh.it gets up my nose.

The arguments they give for justifying homosexuality is just plain lame and can be cut into shreds in seconds. And we all know on NL how I react to mooronic arguments.  angry grin

But they use the arguments anyway because majority of the public are dumb. They started gay marriage and refrained from calling it marriage to fooool the public, they called it "civil union" so as not to cause an uproar. A union that has all the elements of a marriage is a bloody marriage but hey it worked as majority of people are foools.

Now they want to use this same arguments for their gay crusade into Africa. F dat!
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Sagamite(m): 10:19pm On Jan 26, 2010
afemai:

While not trying to be an umpire here. I do nonprofit work hence have a radical and non conformist attitude/approach to happenings in our country pari-passu external influences (after all most funding emanates from there).
  Homosexuality is disgusting to me, yes this is relative !! In Nigeria I have attended workshops where gays where represented under different pressure groups advocating for recognition at social policy level though I was indifferent to their contributions, because of my training I try my best to hang on till the end of these workshops sitting beside them made me so spastic.
Jprospero,Nex, Sagamite and Beneli’s  posts where apt and logical and I agree that if genetic nay nature allows acceptability of homosexuality then craddle-robbers and incest acts be accepted too.
I sympathise with the gay society greatly (though unsolicited) , in Uganda a bill known as  The Anti-Homosexuality Act of 2009 is on the floor of parliament, Rwanda has followed suit too. In uganda they are proposing death penalty for a second/repeat offender.
Sefago, Morpheus24, Omo law uk and Bawomolo have tried to prove the contrary but I refuse to accept that it be legalized while I agree that they should not be discriminated on but be assisted with psychiatric help as people with sexual disorder.
To Sefago, I believe Nigeria will be a world power someday soon!!!


As far as I am concerned, the government should bend backwards, if they have to, to include them in social health policy.

And although I am a fervent and leading supporter of the death penalty, I don't approve of someone being sent to death for repeat offending as a homosexual.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 10:23pm On Jan 26, 2010
WOW ! Threads like these as usual gives both active gays and potential gays the opportunity to vent their anger Grin Really interesting how time flies.

If i can still remember clearly about 17 years ago when i was in my final year in secondary school, I played an active role in the lynching a good friend of mine whom was "caught in the act" with a junior student.

Jungle justice it was for my dear friend whom was "homo". We took laws into our own hands back then and anytime i look back i smile with no regrets that i was part of the jungle justice squad that says no to homosexuality.

Congrats sir, your lynching act is commendable. This jungle justice mentality has obviously made Nigeria the great country it is today.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by edoyad(m): 10:39pm On Jan 26, 2010
Nigerian govt should leave homos alone, they usually make good hair dressers and chic2p¡mp's fiance looks like Taribo West; she could use a good hair do.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by mamagee3(f): 11:52pm On Jan 26, 2010
Homosexuality shouldn't be legalized for any reason.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by spikedcylinder: 11:55pm On Jan 26, 2010
bawomolo:

Congrats sir,  your lynching act is commendable.   This jungle justice mentality has obviously made Nigeria the great country it is today.

Be careful sire, lest you be called an active or potential homosexual by the a/s/s hunter.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by H2O2: 11:58pm On Jan 26, 2010
Hmm F tongue gs
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by H2O2: 12:02am On Jan 27, 2010
wow you lynched? that's heinous dude cry
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Tudor6(f): 2:57am On Jan 27, 2010
Sagamite:

Disgust and unnaturality is one of the basis or argument for legislating all around the world including the West, so ehh, it is a valid argument.
What kind of lame argument is that? Why not ban all unnatural things too, why stop at just homosexuality? Hell, even anal heterosexual sex should be legislated against because it's disgusting and 'unnatural'.

Bro and it is never right. Look around and people who legislate along those lines are most often than not the religious bigots. . . .last time I checked, there's a seperation between church and state.

You don't take away peoples rights just because you don't like them. They (homosexuality) hurts no-one.

Thank Goodness such archaic laws are being gradually thrown out of the window, from civil rights for minorities to abortion, death penalty(not so happy about this one) down to homosexuality.

Change is inevitable, you can't resist it. I'm sure this is the same way the KKK was acting in the 60's putting up lame arguments against racial equality and civil rights but what do we have now? A black president! I think we already have an openly ga.y prime minister (think its finland).

South Africa has already legalized that union, the gale is spreading and y'all cannot stop it.
We are not denying them a right. We are encouraging moral acts.
Morality is a constantly changing thing. What is immoral today may be moral tomorrow and vice versa.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 3:26am On Jan 27, 2010
spikedcylinder:


Be careful sire, lest you be called an active or potential homosexual by the a/s/s hunter.


such accusations could lead to an e-lynching lol.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ChinenyeN(m): 4:29am On Jan 27, 2010
Tudor, sounds like you're equating liberalism to [positive] change and progress. . . or am I not understanding you properly?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by RichyBlacK(m): 4:31am On Jan 27, 2010
Leave them alone. Let the gays and lesbians live the life they want/choose to live. Equal protection under the law.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by sage(m): 6:26am On Jan 27, 2010
ChinenyeN:

Tudor, sounds like you're equating liberalism to [positive] change and progress. . . or am I not understanding you properly?

And I think she is right if she makes that comparison. Generally, Liberal and Progressive stands have helped shape issues in today's world for the better from Women's rights to Civil rights.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Nobody: 7:42am On Jan 27, 2010
Speaking of progrssive change,is homosexuality a positive one?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by babapupa: 7:49am On Jan 27, 2010
mama-gee:

Homosexuality shouldn't be legalized for any reason.



Why? fear dey catch you say gay people go turn you gay? Abi gay people dey comot bread from your table.?

Why even worry about what another man is doing in the corer of his room? Shey na nosiness abi you yourself dey fantasize and won know details?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Sagamite(m): 10:35am On Jan 27, 2010
Tudór:

What kind of lame argument is that? Why not ban all unnatural things too, why stop at just homosexuality? Hell, even anal heterosexual sex should be legislated against because it's disgusting and 'unnatural'.

If you live in a country where it is found extremely disgusting and banned under the law, and it can be proven you did it, then let them enforce their laws.

Tudór:

Bro and it is never right. Look around and people who legislate along those lines are most often than not the religious bigots. . . .last time I checked, there's a seperation between church and state.

I don't argue based on religion, I argue based on logic and concrete facts.

Tudór:

You don't take away peoples rights just because you don't like them. They (homosexuality) hurts no-one.

Why do your leaders of "human rights" and "progressiveness" ban polygamy and nudism? Does it harm anybody?

Tudór:

Thank Goodness such archaic laws are being gradually thrown out of the window, from civil rights for minorities to abortion, death penalty(not so happy about this one) down to homosexuality.

Change is inevitable, you can't resist it. I'm sure this is the same way the KKK was acting in the 60's putting up lame arguments against racial equality and civil rights but what do we have now? A black president! I think we already have an openly ga.y prime minister (think its finland).

South Africa has already legalized that union, the gale is spreading and y'all cannot stop it.Morality is a constantly changing thing. What is immoral today may be moral tomorrow and vice versa.

The lame comparison of gay rights to civil rights again. You are better off and more accurate to compare homosexuality to paedophilia.

As long as we have the Hausas and Muslims in Nigeria, I am rest assure and grateful that aint coming down to Naija anytime soon.

Even in SA, it is the white governments that forced it on them under apartheid, the majority do not agree with it.

As Africa's economic prowess grows (with corruption decreased) and with the right legislation (e.g. majority home content on media), that shite would stop.

Anyway, I know for shizzle for sure it would not happen in my lifetime in Nigeria. So I am liberal and open-minded enough not to give a toss what happens after I die.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Tudor6(f): 11:01am On Jan 27, 2010
Sagamite:

If you live in a country where it is found extremely disgusting and banned under the law, and it can be proven you did it, then let them enforce their laws.

Well then, does that make it right? Why didn't your "leaders of conservatism" not legislate against heterosexual anal sex since its unnatural and disgusting?

Following your logic, if you live in a country where its a crime to love a person of another race, doing so should get you punished under those laws right?


I don't argue based on religion, I argue based on logic and concrete facts.

I'm yet to see the so-called "facts". . . You argument has basically been "legislate against it because we don't like it"
Why do your leaders of "human rights" and "progressiveness" ban polygamy and nudism? Does it harm anybody?

That is the hypocrisy i'm against. Nudism and polygamy between consenting adults don't hurt anyone, why criminalize? We were all born naked, weren't we?

With time, such backward laws against personal freedoms including anti-homosexual laws would soon be thrown outta the window.
The lame comparison of gay rights to civil rights again. You are better off and more accurate to compare homosexuality to paedophilia.

Can you please show us the link between homosexuality and pae.dophilia. How they both hurt humanity and why they should be classified together.
As long as we have the Hausas and Muslims in Nigeria, I am rest assure and grateful that aint coming down to Naija anytime soon.

HAha ha ha ha ha ha. . . Dude you never hear tori of wetin dey happen up north? With all these politicians violating servant boys and co. I even read somewhere of a place/group of people in kaduna where men act all feminine and have sex with fellow men. There are even accounts of male prostitues.

Don't be rest assured bro. . .they might be more open to it than you think.

Even in SA, it is the white governments that forced it on them under apartheid, the majority do not agree with it.

I thot SA legalized gay marriage as recent as this decade?
As Africa's economic prowess grows (with corruption decreased) and with the right legislation (e.g. majority home content on media), that shite would stop.
[b]Anyway, I know for shizzle for sure it would not happen in my lifetime in Nigeria. [/b]So I am liberal and open-minded enough not to give a toss what happens after I die.
Don't count on it. .lol
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ChinenyeN(m): 2:36pm On Jan 27, 2010
sage:

And I think she is right if she makes that comparison. Generally, Liberal and Progressive stands have helped shape issues in today's world for the better from Women's rights to Civil rights.
One does not have to be liberal in order for positive change to come about. You can simply just be progressive, and not necessarily liberal, or conservative. Liberalism =/= Progress. Conservatism =/= Progress. A progressive attitude towards social disturbances and problems equals progress. Aside from that, I'm not really a fan of liberalism and liberals, because of two reasons:
1. Even though they spout "tolerance", they're extremely intolerance of people who don't necessarily fall in line with, or agree with, or think contrary to their liberal mentality (more especially evident in talks of sexuality). They also seem intolerant of a society's right to self-preservation. Liberalism nowadays seems like cultural, moral, and economic socialism.
2. Liberalism seems like a double standard ideology to me.

Those above reasons encroach into the extremist ideology of the "autonomous individual", and I believe that anything in excess is not good. Lastly, legalizing homosexuality does not necessarily equal progress.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Sagamite(m): 3:11pm On Jan 27, 2010
Tudór:

Well then, does that make it right? Why didn't your "leaders of conservatism" not legislate against heterosexual super-perversion since its unnatural and disgusting?

I don't get your logic.

Tudór:

Following your logic, if you live in a country where its a crime to love a person of another race, doing so should get you punished under those laws right?

You keep on resorting to this rubbish comparison. There is no ideological similarity or analogical ground between homosexuality and race.

It is a lame argument you should use for (and is used for) those that don't have brains in their heads. It is an insult to black people and an insult to my intelligence to be putting such fort to me.

Race is discrimination based on superiority, akin to sexism, ethnicism, ageism, fatism etc

Faggostism is rejection based on morality/naturalism akin to incest, paedophilia, necrophilia, buggery etc.

Being black is normal and natural without a counter-argument. Stop that lame argument.

Tudór:

I'm yet to see the so-called "facts". . . You argument has basically been "legislate against it because we don't like it"

You are the one advocating change of law, so the onus is on you to prove it is natural, at least you agree it is disgusting so no need for counter-argument.

Tudór:

That is the hypocrisy i'm against. Nudism and polygamy between consenting adults don't hurt anyone, why criminalize? We were all born unclothed, weren't we?

With time, such backward laws against personal freedoms including  anti-homosexual laws would soon be thrown outta the window.

Hmm, so you are in support of people walking unclothed on the streets?

Tudór:

Can you please show us the link between homosexuality and pae.dophilia. How they both hurt humanity and why they should be classified together.

All natural things we do exist vastly in the animal world in completely similar context. Neither homosexuality and paedophilia does.

Tudór:

HAha ha ha ha ha ha. . . Dude you never hear tori of wetin dey happen up north? With all these politicians violating servant boys and co. I even read somewhere of a place/group of people in kaduna where men act all feminine and have intimacy with fellow men. There are even accounts of male prostitues.

Don't be rest assured bro. . .they might be more open to it than you think.

I thot SA legalized gay marriage as recent as this decade?Don't count on it. .lol

Whether they practise it or not is irrelevant. Their culture and religion dictates they should oppose it in its entirety. And they follow this culture and religion rigorously in setting or supporting policies.

It aint gonna happen in Nigeria in my time, you can bet on it. The arguments are too weak and the opposition is too high. Religion is the centre of Nigeria and dictates people's opinion. And it will be so till I die, I am pretty sure on that since they can block Lagos Ibadan expressway.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bawomolo(m): 4:46pm On Jan 27, 2010
~Bluetooth:

Speaking of progrssive change,is homosexuality a positive one?

it is a positive change for the "homosexual". sexual liberty IMO is a positive change.

Religion is the centre of Nigeria and dictates people's opinion. And it will be so till I die, I am pretty sure on that since they can block Lagos Ibadan expressway.

this sadly is probably right.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Tudor6(f): 11:37pm On Jan 27, 2010
Sagamite:

I don't get your logic.

What don't you get? You said if heterosexual anal. Sex were illegal in a country, anyone caught should face the full length of the law(which my even be death). . .my question, is this right?
You keep on resorting to this rubbish comparison. There is no ideological similarity or analogical ground between homosexuality and race.

It is a lame argument you should use for (and is used for) those that don't have brains in their heads. It is an insult to black people and an insult to my intelligence to be putting such fort to me.

Race is discrimination based on superiority, akin to sexism, ethnicism, ageism, fatism etc
No need to resort to dishonesty. Racial discrimination doesn't necessarily have to be about "superiority". It simply can be about hate/dislike. Same goes for ethnicism, ageism, anti-semitism etc


You dislike/hate hence discriminate. A blackman might discriminate against a mullato because he thinks he's an abomination and it has nothing to do with superiority.

Sometimes people just discriminate against others, just because they are different.

Now its for these same reasons the homosexuals are vilified, why? Because y'all think they're an "abomination", "different", "animals" etc.
Faggostism is rejection based on morality/naturalism akin to incest, paedophilia, necrophilia, buggery etc.

Being black is normal and natural without a counter-argument. Stop that lame argument.

You are the one advocating change of law, so the onus is on you to prove it is natural, at least you agree it is disgusting so no need for counter-argument.

All natural things we do exist vastly in the animal world in completely similar context. Neither homosexuality and paedophilia does.

This lame "natural" argument again.

Since when did we approve and legislate based on occurence or non-occurence in nature?

Incest, r.ape, violence and murder ALL occur in nature i.e natural why then do we frown against them?

Polygamy is rampant in the animal kingdom i.e NATURAL, why is it illegal?

Pae.dophilia sometimes occur in stoats, why not approve?

Animals have also been known to exhibit homosexuality albeit in captivity, so kini big deal?

Who cares if they did it on the moon, in a cage or under the sea, the important thing is they were attracted to an animal of the same sex. i.e they at least considered it. But the way you all are acting like such feelings dropped down from the sun and won't even be considered by an animal is baffling
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Hmm, so you are in support of people walking unclothed on the streets?

I don't see why not, we were all born na.ked, no?


Whether they practise it or not is irrelevant. Their culture and religion dictates they should oppose it in its entirety. And they follow this culture and religion rigorously in setting or supporting policies.
It aint gonna happen in Nigeria in my time, you can bet on it. The arguments are too weak and the opposition is too high. Religion is the centre of Nigeria and dictates people's opinion. And it will be so till I die, I am pretty sure on that since they can block Lagos Ibadan expressway.
You'd be suprised how culture and religion can be easily changed with rigorous campaigning.

Religion and culture of some groups support marriage of underage girls and FGM, is it any wonder how the figures have been drastically reduced.


One sometimes sweet and wonderful thing about religion is it can be twisted and moulded to accomodate anything which will even be better when the adherents are *secretly* open to the idea. The capacity of the human to deceive himself shouldn't be underestimated. From vehemently opposing evolution and the big bang earlier now You see them trying to decieve themselves that the bible or koran talks about the big bang, evolution, boyles law, genetics etc

Its already happening in christianity starting with the anglicans and very soon others will fall in line, [quote][/quote]
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Tudor6(f): 11:40pm On Jan 27, 2010
Edited.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by bettes(f): 11:58pm On Jan 27, 2010
The appropriate topic should have been Can Homosexuality Be Ever Recognised In Nigeria,talkless of legalizing,one craws before they leap,isn't it?Homosexuality is frowned upon in the Nigerian society and viewed as a taboo of the highest order(and rightly so).And it is make us in any way backward,in fact the likes of Archbishop Peter Akinola are  somewhat regarded as national heroes for leading a worldwide revolt against the ordination of gay bishops in the US anglican church.He was even listed twice as Time's top 100 most influential world figures for his boldness.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by edoyad(m): 12:31am On Jan 28, 2010
I just saw a girl complete her sex change operation into a guy(transexual) by cutting of the breasts. The new guy has got beard and all, and even looks like Ed Norton.
What are transexuals classified as ?
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by email1(m): 2:11pm On Jan 28, 2010
You mean HIV carriers? You better think again.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Nobody: 2:38pm On Jan 28, 2010
No matter how peole may want recognition for gay right in nigeria,ther will continue to be strong oppostion against courtesy of moralists like me who just can stand this barbaric act in our society.homosexuality is never about democray or freedom but about a few selfish sexually-deranged minors who just wnated any but to spread their lust around.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by DatNiggaAk(m): 3:15pm On Jan 28, 2010
DREAM ON SICK BASTARDS!!!
gays will never be recognized in Nigeria,
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ChinenyeN(m): 3:19pm On Jan 28, 2010
A society has a right to self-preservation.
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jan 28, 2010
That preservation we must upheld no matter of the opposition from gays and gay wannabes hiding under sex right or freedom,
Re: Homosexaulity Should It Be Lagalize In Nigeria? by ayettymama(f): 3:34pm On Jan 28, 2010
it shouldnt only be lagalized it should be logolized!!

monkey post NEXT!

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