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Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:24pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
xtervaganza: In our fallen human condition, if God were to fully reveal Himself to us, we would be consumed and destroyed. Therefore, God veils Himself and appears in forms in which we can “see” Him. However, this is different than seeing God with all His glory and holiness displayed. People have seen visions of God, images of God, and appearances of God, but no one has ever seen God in all His fullness |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by WORLDPEACE(m): 12:25pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:My response to him was to show him he needs to come fully prepared. He should not bring up points that don't support the argument. Like the OP said, Atheists too are guilty of ignorant argument. |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by mostHandsome01: 12:29pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
guys, stop wasting ur precious time with these Atheist, for dey have eyes and yet cannot see, they have ears and still cannot hear, their heart has been freeze like ice which cant melt except God chooses to make the see the light himself, many Atheists that later realise the truth, a huge percentage of them didnt figure out the truth by sessions of baseless arguments, but by personal encounter with God, REMEMBER the story of saul in the bible who later became paul (Acts chapter 9) he was a well known persecutor of God's followers, no man could change him until he had a 1 on 1 encounter with God which change is Life forever. so guys, dnt try to change these people, rather pray they have a personal conviction or God comes to their rescue bfor it becomes too late. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by cooncudee(m): 12:31pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
ireneony:tis a copy and paste work jor, im sure he does not even know if the assumptions in the essay are true representation of facts, he just thought "what an interesting write up, lemme post it on nairaland". 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by louie3(m): 12:37pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
This op, you are just talking nonsense. I bet you've never met an atheist face to face before. All the things you wrote here does not reflect atheism one bit. Carry out your research before doing copy and paste. Mtchwww. |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by cooncudee(m): 12:43pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
mostHandsome01:you just hit the nail on the head, such arguments are only a waste of time and energy, it even makes matters worse when its baseless, a personal encounter is what some ppl need |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by kabukabu(m): 12:45pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Not really a question on atheism but my thought is simply this. Islam and Christianity were forced on indigenous Africans by colonizing Arabs and Europeans. That is an undeniable fact. They believed that African religions were Savage and that they had to forcibly convert them all. How is that now Africans embrace the religions of their oppressors with such enthusiasm that is even greater than that of their masters. Black Africans were hung in the US at special after church gatherings.Even till this day in the US the most segregated places are churches on every Sunday.Same goes Black African slaves and their descendants on every continent since slavery. They gave you their religion to rob you of your dignity and self worth,obedient slaves were less likely to revolt. Just my two cents here, can't really elaborate on these thoughts as I'm actually just waking up. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:51pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
cooncudee: I stated the source of Logical fallacy 1-5 and 9 right there - this means the rest were drawn from my arguments with the atheists . I also posted Seun's criticism of the Execution of Ananias and Sapphira as fallacious in fallacy number 8 . Please read the posts next time instead of rushing into plain stupid conclusions . |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by hopefulLandlord: 12:51pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
WORLDPEACE: Is that your answer to the link?
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Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by neocortex: 12:58pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Prove the above. I do not agree, it is just a scene from a story book you believed in and I thought you will be happy to follow elijahs model instead of wasting energy on unfounded propositions. It is a simple case, same way I like other rational humans don't spend time making claim that the sun or water don't exists, it is only logical for me to accept the existence of a proven human-independent god. You can't argue by being everybody at the same time that can only mean that you have no solid point of reference. Mind proving the bolded, on one hand your statement shows you are absolutely certain of the existence of your god on the other hand you want others to not be sure of their disbelief since "we don't know much about the universe"(that is relativist fallacy). You actually lack the moral right to prescribe what you yourself won't subscribe to. Where the hell did you get these from ? Let me help you if you can't check your dictionary for the word "deny"
Since your god exists only in your head, it can only be disbelieved not denied. Are you clear ? 1 Like |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by abbey621(m): 1:00pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: But bros, I thought we were made in his image? |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by WORLDPEACE(m): 1:00pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:All the points in the link are not new to me. I commented on a statement that was relevant to the points the OP made which is how Atheists can argue wrongly. His comment was one of such example. I choose not to respond to the link for fear I might reveal my stance. I should add that I am not a christian. |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by Kgdavid(m): 1:03pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
neocortex: 1. That is the fallacy of composition. That logic can prove some objective beliefs does not mean it can be applied to prove all. When it comes to atheism, logic tells us that life must have started somewhere and that all things must come from something or someone. Logic also makes us realize that for the preceding principle to be true then we need to ask where the source came from. For which we have no simple answer. Logic then leads us to conclude that the truth must be something beyond the realm of known logical non-spiritual realities. Thus belief in the supernatural is entirely logical. |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by neocortex: 1:12pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Kgdavid: The bolded is pure speculation which will only lead to a circular logic, all things may have started from many sources or nothing at all. Ignorance can never be an excuse/prove of a supernatural/god, everything in nature is natural, except you have conflicting evidence. From your own writing, you don't know how the supposed source came about, how does that logically lead you to believe in an unproven supernatural ? Don't you see that your conclusion doesn't follow ? |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by mostHandsome01: 1:15pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
cooncudee:thats right!!! |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by Nobody: 1:19pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The least you can do is to give credit to the real owners of the article |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by Nobody: 1:22pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The article isn't even yours |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by Kgdavid(m): 1:27pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
neocortex: It is simple. Read me well.the pattern I spoke of would only be circular without belief in the supernatural. My belief in the supernatural leads me to a belief in the creator. You say all things may have come from many things, well these many things would have had to come from something or someone. How is it logical to think that all things could have come from nothing at all? Is it there a single example of a case in nature where things have come from nothing? To believe that something can come from nothing, then you my friend, are a believer in the supernatural already |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:32pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
neocortex: Its all folklore . This should help : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tooth_fairy I do not agree, it is just a scene from a story book you believed in and I thought Have you perused through numerous threads concerned with the testimonies of Christians who were once atheists ? People are having their doubts cleared through personal experiences , some people (deists) don't actually need it . It is a simple case, same way I like other rational humans don't When you say "proven" , what do you mean ? Asking Supreme Being to prove He is the creator of the universe or what ? Do you realize that what serves as evidence for you concerning the existence of God may not be same for another person ? Example : Some reject macro-evolution because it is not observed. If you think fossils , DNA etc serve as evidence , there are strong arguments against those. So to an evolutionist , he has found his evidence for evolution . For the ones who repudiate the whole idea , they have their reasons and very compelling ones too . Deist say that t nature , intelligence , design of the universe make the existence of a creator axiomatic . Observance of nature and intelligence in humans are surfeit evidence for the existence of God . Even sef , the agnostic believe that you can't determine if God exists or not and they have strong arguments to support their beliefs . So have fun proving to an agnostic that God exists . You can't argue by being everybody at the same time that can only mean If someone says evolution is proof God did not create man , how do you think I should respond ? The usual me will explain that some people believe God did it through evolution but I'm progressive creationist . This does not mean I do not have a 'solid point of reference' , I'm simply countering the argument . Mind proving the bolded, In this case , what I see as proof may not be what you see as proof . on one hand your statement shows you are absolutely Well your argument failed because you know little about the universe , so why make a bold statement "God does not exist" ? - I was just letting you know Where the hell did you get these from ?You asked me what I thought about it , remember ? Let me help you if you can't check your dictionary for the word "deny" This is a conclusion , and logically , I should ask for evidence |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:35pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
neoapocalypse: Its right there in the introduction !!!! Logical fallacy 1-5 and 9 were gotten from a source ,"here" was hyperlinked to the source , the rest was mine . |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by Zikdik(m): 1:35pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
You love generalizing, don't ya? I wanted to compose a credible reply but very few here on Nairaland deserve that. I hope you know your copied article's logic is sh*t though. One more thing, being an atheist isn't about philosophy and logic and science. It does not take rocket science to figure that Santa only exists in mythology and folklore. |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:39pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Zikdik: Logical fallacy pooh-pooh |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:44pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
neoapocalypse: I modified the original article and added my own logical fallacies . I'm tired of repeating this honestly . |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by Nobody: 1:46pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Actually a bit surprised at most of the arguments here. Something along the lines of "but you do it too!!" Or "Don't ask foolish questions" is mostly what I see. Interesting thread. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by HajimeSaito(m): 1:56pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Well written. But Ifenes is rather a poor example to cite as the typical atheist. He is too dimwitted to merit such a distinction. Ifenes actually believes in voodoo. What kind of atheist believes in voodoo? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by cooncudee(m): 1:59pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Some Christians need to realise the only mandate given to them is to spread the gospel (in a peaceful manner,not forcibly). God did not ask you to help him condemn unbelievers, neither did he ask you to force your beliefs on them. When you waste your time arguing a concept you know little about rather than spending your time studying, trying to fight for God, have it at the back of your mind that you're on your own. |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by Nobody: 2:02pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog,naira land has the highest number of atheists. Even wben the evidence is placed in front of them,they still can't see it |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:12pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
akpobi: Atheists own many accounts Take a look at this https://www.nairaland.com/3299206/exposed-truthman83-lied-deceived-nairalanders |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by Zikdik(m): 2:13pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
MrsPhyno: Nothing interesting. Stupid is more of an apt description. But then, who am I to tell you what to think or enjoy or not? |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by louie3(m): 2:34pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Zikdik:Abeg help me tell this mumu op. |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by JackBizzle: 2:48pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
WORLDPEACE: That is why I said "hardly". The levels of groupthink between atheists and christians are different. Christians -eat grass because of their pastors. GROUPTHINK; OUR PASTOR IS ALWAYS RIGHT -ostracize those who leave the church. GROUPTHINK; UNBELIEVERS ARE EVIL. |
Re: Atheism And Logical Fallacies : Here Are 10 Logical Fallacies Atheists Commit by JackBizzle: 2:51pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Have you seen or spoken to God? If not, please keep quiet......your God is imaginary |
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