timeman:
I feel extremely sorry for the number of unsuspecting people & sets of learners of history that paid scipt writers like @igboid must have sucks off through history revisionism & flaccid cheastbeating charade. How could you insinuate that universal primary education(UPE) wasn't adopted in the east when it is an open secret that it s adoption in the east failed due to lack of sufficient financial resorces. How could you say eastern initiatives were not socialistic, when in fact Okpara adopted socialism ideology as premier of eastern region. You guys are lying merchants. Y'all should rise from the dust of lies but i strongly doubt if you would. No time for radarada.
Kiss the truth!

Dude stop this ur Rubbish false stories.
and be rational here.
non of d tin u hv said so far is true

MayorofLagos:


In 1929, Asaba was considered Western Nigeria.
Anything west of river niger was Western.

Where do you guys get your bs?

Baba Ekaro Sir

If we should believe Clark that the old eastern region was not developd or did not have money for, then what could other regions boast of that the east did not have.
Who built

Nigercem
University of Nigeria
Nkalagu cement factory
Trans-amadi industrial layout PH
Trans Ekulu Enugu
Niger Bridge
University of Calabar(offshot)
Eastern Tv

Baba we should overlook propaganda and blantant lies from any source

MayorofLagos:


In 1929, Asaba was considered Western Nigeria.
Anything west of river niger was Western.

Where do you guys get your bs?

Baba Ekaro Sir

If we should believe Clark that the old eastern region was not developd or did not have money for, then what could other regions boast of that the east did not have.
Who built

Nigercem
University of Nigeria
Nkalagu cement factory
Trans-amadi industrial layout PH
Trans Ekulu Enugu
Niger Bridge
University of Calabar(offshot)
Eastern Tv

Baba we should overlook propaganda and blantant lies from any source.

MayorofLagos:


I dont know who told you Paul Anber is fictional. The burden is on you to prove Baba Clark wrong on his historical recounts.

there is nothing to prove here.
Clerk lack intellectual capacity of his own to write his own article and state things exactly how it was and Hence resorted to Repeating exactly the Same Yoruba media Propaganda that we see from every avarage yoruba person Just like d False propaganda coming from U and timeman.
theres nothing new here

Igboid:

Cocoa was grown in the East too, but at a lesser quantity.
Clark made no point but just to repeat Yoruba propaganda.

Exactly

MayorofLagos:


I dont know who told you Paul Anber is fictional. The burden is on you to prove Baba Clark wrong on his historical recounts.

Lol! Nothing about Clark rant is historical. He just gave his opinions, with no stats or figures to back them up.

MayorofLagos:


My point is counter to a faldehood you presented as facts from 1914 showing palm oil as a income earner. Palm oil is not synonymous with East the way Cocoa is synonymous with West or Groundnut with North.

You can feed bs to fellow Ibos, we know you all dont question issues...but when you are in a forum with Yorubas please think it over before posting bs, we question things.

You are beating about the bush. How can u claim cocoa for the West when Cross River state in the eastern region us the second highest cocoa producing state in the country?

Stop vomiting gibberish all in the name of posting comments. No western state comes close to first 5 in palm oil production and yet u claim palm oil production is glory for also producing palm oil while denying He eastern region same for cocoa even though the second highest cocoa producing state in Nigeria is an Eastern state.

Igboid:


Lol! Nothing about Clark rant is historical. He just gave his opinions, with no stats or figures to back them up.

this yorubas seems to be on a propaganda Campaign this Week on naira land n we need to do d same to dem
Especially Omonnakoda, Bia.fraudexposed n mayor of Lagos

timeman:
The achievements of Awo & SW at large are well documented, however SE region stumbled in mediocrity going by the standards of the first republic. Azikiwe was a misfit to this country, the death of herbert macqulay was so grave that zik had to step into a role much bigger than his political acumen. Zik's sagacity & activism was rather best served in the press. Talking about political calculations & dexterity he was a failure colossus. A celebrated tribalist under the guise of nationalist. He coveted SW so much so he would nuture his ambitions in SW than in the east. He performed absymally low as the premier of eastern region.
@Madam Excellency, you almost always flatter to deceive. Okpara was not the first premier but Zik was. Note also, that okpara was by far a better performer than Zik despite the former was his political student.
@MayorofLagos, kindly save yourself the stress for her intelligence is highly watered down. She would only bore you with her unsoundmindedly jargons.
Obey the truth!

sayijg Zil was the first premier of Eastern Region summarily define your intellectual capability!!

sunnyb0b0:


You are beating about the bush. How can u claim cocoa for the West when Cross River state in the eastern region us the second highest cocoa producing state in the country?

Stop vomiting gibberish all in the name of posting comments. No western state comes close to first 5 in palm oil production and yet u claim palm oil production is glory for also producing palm oil while denying He eastern region same for cocoa even though the second highest cocoa producing state in Nigeria is an Eastern state.

In the period Clark is referencing there was nothing called Cross River State. True or false?

So bring record of cocoa production in Eastern Nigeria in 50s ad 60s.

WeNigerDelta:
Damn, some folks have been selfish and mean for a very long time. So you guys were so selfish with TV signal, because the Midwest wasn't contributing as much as cocoa then, you didn't allow my people enjoy Western Region television service. SMDH
Only God can imagine what would have happened if you had all this crude oil as well. TV for real? TV? Damn

please disregard this old man telling you a blantant lie, the tv signals did not even cover the whole Ibadan then talkless of it getting to Lagos, abeokuta akure so how will that get to bini? or warri?

I don't know the assests the man was talking about that should have been shared by the Midwest and old western region after creation.

I never knew Nigeria had a prime minister in 1956.

its a total lie that nothing was done in the old eastern Region, economically it fared better than the whole of the North, second only to the Western region.

Baba should go and retire from politics abeg, he got enough from Obj, Yaradua and Gej.

trapQ:
I didn't read the O.P but I suspect its thrash.

The core Niger Delta (SS) has been feeding Nigeria since the days of John the Baptist.

Read the attached above.

That report was Nigeria's export to Britain only. As at that time Nigeria was trading with the whole world. The report does not represent the entire record of Nigeria's international trade.

Edwin Clark should stop lying to the public and respect his age. During the Western region era development was even throughout the region. No part of the region was left behind in any area.

As to the Western region disconnecting the Midwest from television coverage, that is a blatant lie. I still remember as a child that the people of Lagos also could not establish connection with the television station.

I promised not to banter words with you @leofab, rather question your intellectual gullibility. Zik became premier in 1954 after he was chased away from SW for his selfish ambition & and an attempt to abuse the constitution, he was succeded by okpara in 1959. Y'all one & the same as revisionists.
It amuses not only me but also saner minds of esteemed nobility how second rater story tellers @Eastfield1, @igboid, would gloat over an epic mediocrity. Mission schools INTRODUCED not KICKED OFF universal primary education in the eastern region in 1953 as reported but the system kicked off evetually in 1956. Prior to its kickoff, the old educational system was very much applicable still. HEAR THE TRUTH; AWO(ibile)kicked off universal FREE primary education in SW in 1953, while it takes MISSION SCHOOLS(oyinbo) introduced UPE in the East. So, who be boss?. I repeat, igbos adopted the FREE but failed for lack of "ego".
I'm going to bust you on palm oil production in 1914 in due time.
Kiss the truth!

Igboid:
Eastern region had no free education scheme, yet we had more of our people enrolled in school than the west, because we had far more superior administrators and master planners who came up with a better scheme known as "Ibu anyi ndada scheme".

We have always been capitalists and not socialists and devised policies that made sure our systems worked better than the rest of the country, because we had always been blessed with superior technocrats.

Keep deceiving yourself and misinforming other ignoramus like you.

timeman:
I promised not to banter words with you @leofab, rather question your intellectual gullibility. Zik became premier in 1954 after he was chased away from SW for his selfish ambition & and an attempt to abuse the constitution, he was succeded by okpara in 1959. Y'all one & the same as revisionists.
It amuses not only me but also saner minds of esteemed nobility how second rater story tellers @Eastfield1, @igboid, would gloat over an epic mediocrity. Mission schools INTRODUCED not KICKED OFF universal primary education in the eastern region in 1953 as reported but the system kicked off evetually in 1956. Prior to its kickoff, the old educational system was very much applicable still. HEAR THE TRUTH; AWO(ibile)kicked off universal FREE primary education in SW in 1953, while it takes MISSION SCHOOLS(oyinbo) introduced UPE in the East. So, who be boss?. I repeat, igbos adopted the FREE but failed for lack of "ego".
I'm going to bust you on palm oil production in 1914 in due time.
Kiss the truth!

u are still talking nonsense.
may be when u start making sense then i will engage u

Igboid:


Paul Anber's essay "Modernization and Political Disintegration: Nigeria and the Ibos" published in the journal of Modern African Studies vol. 5, No 2 (Sep, 1967) 163-179. See pp 171-172 for excerpt:
" '' A system of Universal primary education was introduced in Eastern Nigeria in 1953, though the mission schools had already prospered in the Region long before then. Despite the fact that there was a requirement for limited contributory fees, education continued to be very much in demand. Even at the time when universal primary education was first introduced, the percentage of the population over seven years of age who were literate was higher in the East than in any other Region: East, 10.6 per cent; West 9.5 percent; North, 0.9 percent. Since 1959, the East has had more teachers and pupils than any other area of the country, with the heaviest emphasis on primary education. Figures for elementary and secondary education indicate that the approximate ratio of teachers to population in 1963 was 1 to every 1,500 in the East, 1 to every 2,500 in th West, and 1 for every 10,000 in the north. Other statistical data reveal how rapidly the standard of living rose among Ibos. The East had the most extensive hospital facilities in the country by 1965, the largest regional production of electricity in the country by 1954, and the greatest number of vehicle registrations by 1963. The economic orientation of the Ibos was also reflected through membership of credit associations:in 1963 the East had 68,220 individual members, the west 5,776, and the north a mere 2,407." ''... His source was the Annual Abstract of Statistics ( Federal Office of Statistics, Lagos, 1965)

That's the truth staring right at you. Receive it, let it purify you and sanctify you, repent of your Igbophobia and falsehood propagation against the East.

Thank you.

Where did you get your lies from?

MayorofLagos:


Baba Clark is talking before the war, East had no means to develop itself and it subsisted on receipts from other regions. After the war East is still without and we can see why everywhere in Nigeria is filled with Ibo refugees.

You call Igbos in various parts of Nigeria refugees

ref·u·gee definition
noun
plural noun: refugees
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
"tens of thousands of refugees fled their homes"

synonyms: émigré, fugitive, exile, displaced person, asylum seeker; boat people

And the same you, will frown nd oppose Biafra or secession , I wonder what genetic make-up you were made of.
I thought you said Igbos are part of Nigeria, yet you call them refugees. Lwkmd.

U senile bigots are always shooting yourselves on the leg
I am Igbo, I gat a family house in Lagos, built from scratch, payed taxes in full. I don't know how that describes me as a refugee.

Igbos are business oriented, you see them in various parts of the Country due to their resilience, hustle, hardwork, creativeness, the go into your lands/regions and achieve greatness build houses, establish big businesses... No wonder you bigots always hate.
Freaking bigots

MayorofLagos:


Even in current pace, West is still the pioneer and most advanced. The yardstick of measure is to look at which regions today, under unitary system, is able to operate in parallel with the center and would not miss the center if it were to dissolve. Only West can say that and show it effectively. Everyone else is a pretender,East in particular. So imagine what would be if we go regional.

Nah, everything is still centred in Lagos under this one city-state set up so of course surrounding states will get the dividends of that. You argument for a pioneering and advanced region today would be more credible if we through out the fact that the so called south east was almost completely levelled for example.

By the way Gwari people would look funny bragging over Abuja.

timeman:
The achievements of Awo & SW at large are well documented, however SE region stumbled in mediocrity going by the standards of the first republic. Azikiwe was a misfit to this country, the death of herbert macqulay was so grave that zik had to step into a role much bigger than his political acumen. Zik's sagacity & activism was rather best served in the press. Talking about political calculations & dexterity he was a failure colossus. A celebrated tribalist under the guise of nationalist. He coveted SW so much so he would nuture his ambitions in SW than in the east. He performed absymally low as the premier of eastern region.
@Madam Excellency, you almost always flatter to deceive. Okpara was not the first premier but Zik was. Note also, that okpara was by far a better performer than Zik despite the former was his political student.
@MayorofLagos, kindly save yourself the stress for her intelligence is highly watered down. She would only bore you with her unsoundmindedly jargons.
Obey the truth!

How dare u write such trash?
If zik og Africa was such a misfit why then did he defeat awo in the then western region before awo and yerubas resorted to tribalism to further their interest.
Dude just hide ur face in shame because the very independence u celebrated yesterday was single handedly brought by Zik. Ask ur father if u dont knw history of Nigeria.
Zik of Africa is no match for any Nigerian politician till date, none can ever fill the void he left behind.

MayorofLagos:


In 1929, Asaba was considered Western Nigeria.
Anything west of river niger was Western.

Where do you guys get your bs?

Did you not see the breakdown of eastern Nigeria? How many people are in old Mid-West? Even if you are correct, if Coastal tribes made up a mere 2% and we assume Asaba and co were put into Western Nigeria as 1%, then 9% of the town was still from non-Igbo Western Nigeria in 1929! Maybe it's malaria.

timeman:
I promised not to banter words with you @leofab, rather question your intellectual gullibility. Zik became premier in 1954 after he was chased away from SW for his selfish ambition & and an attempt to abuse the constitution, he was succeded by okpara in 1959. Y'all one & the same as revisionists.
It amuses not only me but also saner minds of esteemed nobility how second rater story tellers @Eastfield1, @igboid, would gloat over an epic mediocrity. Mission schools INTRODUCED not KICKED OFF universal primary education in the eastern region in 1953 as reported but the system kicked off evetually in 1956. Prior to its kickoff, the old educational system was very much applicable still. HEAR THE TRUTH; AWO(ibile)kicked off universal FREE primary education in SW in 1953, while it takes MISSION SCHOOLS(oyinbo) introduced UPE in the East. So, who be boss?. I repeat, igbos adopted the FREE but failed for lack of "ego".
I'm going to bust you on palm oil production in 1914 in due time.
Kiss the truth!

you should be sensible enough to know that Zik was the first ceremonial president of Nigeria and not a premier.. Goodnight artificial smartaxx

MayorofLagos:


Even in current pace, West is still the pioneer and most advanced. The yardstick of measure is to look at which regions today, under unitary system, is able to operate in parallel with the center and would not miss the center if it were to dissolve. Only West can say that and show it effectively. Everyone else is a pretender,East in particular. So imagine what would be if we go regional.

If at all wat u saying makes any sense, why then is the West pioneered by Lagos opposed to true federalism or better still wat some people call secession of the East.
Lagos is just so fortunate to be benefitting so much from this fraud call Nigeria but I assure u it won't last forever.

LOL! An igbo lady@leofab who doesn't know jack about zik's political career, all she does is twerking her artificial lazyaxx. Enough of ewedu & amala(your favourite yoruba food) & stick your nose in a book. Who was zik before becoming a ceremonial president?. Sleep well& wake up with sense.
@freshdude99, your darkest ignorance is highly pronounced. It's a fallacy that zik led our independence. Who raised the motion for self government? Who seconded the motion?. Who & who protested the british imperialism in nig? Zik was only a nationalist(baba one nigeria)no more, no less. Additionally, zik was able to win some seats in the SW basically because NCNC was a largely acceptable party & grown in SW cos its ex-president was a yoruba man(herbert macqulay) before zik took over due to macqulay's death. Celebrate your falsehood in your region, don't spread it around here pls.
Obey the truth!

timeman:
LOL! An igbo lady@leofab who doesn't know jack about zik's political career, all she does is twerking her artificial lazyaxx. Enough of ewedu & amala(your favourite yoruba food) & stick your nose in a book. Who was zik before becoming a ceremonial president?. Sleep well& wake up with sense.
@freshdude99, your darkest ignorance is highly pronounced. It's a fallacy that zik led our independence. Who raised the motion for self government? Who seconded the motion?. Who & who protested the british imperialism in nig? Zik was only a nationalist(baba one nigeria)no more, no less. Additionally, zik was able to win some seats in the SW basically because NCNC was a largely acceptable party & grown in SW cos its ex-president was a yoruba man(herbert macqulay) before zik took over due to macqulay's death. Celebrate your falsehood in your region, don't spread it around here pls.
Obey the truth!

If truly ur head is correct, why didn't Awo take over after Herbert's death?
U see ur craze? U r now mocking zik for being Baba one Nigeria huh?
I have always said it that Yorubas sowed the seed of tribalism which gave birth to all the nonsense we are suffering today in tho country.
Just negodu how rotten the thinking of a young man like u is....
Rubbish set of people

ezeagu:
This topic is very irrelevant anyway and has been overdone.

Lagos was the colonial center of Nigeria for decades, money the British got from the oil trade they started using to build Lagos hence all the railways and telegraph lines starting in Lagos because of Europeans, naturally new technology would diffuse from there and the logistics would make it easier since Lagos was the official port.

All of this stuff happened with heavy support from the British, the first university people are bragging about was an offshoot of Oxbridge in London. The question should be the viability of each region if left to their own today.

Igbos always trying to twist history because if inferiority complex

freshdude99:

If truly ur head is correct, why didn't Awo take over after Herbert's death?
U see ur craze? U r now mocking zik for being Baba one Nigeria huh?
I have always said it that Yorubas sowed the seed of tribalism which gave birth to all the nonsense we are suffering today in tho country.
Just negodu how rotten the thinking of a young man like u is....
Rubbish set of people

Yoruba people are not tribal bigots like you people who always think that only the people of your tribe could succeed you at the head of an organization.

It was on record that as soon as Zik took the headship of the party after the demise of Herbert Macaulay that he began to appoint fellow Igbos into the position that should have been filled by people of other ethnic group, thereby forcing the likes of Awolowo and Enahoro to leave the party.

Even after Zik became president, he began to make sure majority of vacant position in the Federal civil service in Lagos were filled by his fellow Igbo's( this is why Igbo's used to say that they dominated Lagos before the civil war).Zik did this at that time in order to counterbalance the overwhelming presence of Yoruba people in the multinationals and industries.

Zik did not stop there. When the University of Ibadan was formed , he made sure that over 95% of the lecturers were Igbo's to the chagrin of the Yoruba's, who at that time ( and now) could boast of at least three qualified candidates for every single qualified candidates the Igbos could boast of.

We Yorubas know that Zik was only a nationalist by mouth,but his actions show otherwise.

rlauncher:


Where did you get your lies from?

They are the bitter truth you hate to hear, because you are covered with falsehoods.

freshdude99:

If at all wat u saying makes any sense, why then is the West pioneered by Lagos opposed to true federalism or better still wat some people call secession of the East.
Lagos is just so fortunate to be benefitting so much from this fraud call Nigeria but I assure u it won't last forever.

Olodo, as at independence Lagos was not part of the western region. So many parts of today's Lagos like Ikorodu and Epe used to be part of western region then At that time , the western region was richer than Lagos. Most of the fund used to develop Lagos at that time came from the Western region.

As at today like it has been for many years, the. FG had been taking at least four times of what Lagos receives from oil revenue away from Lagos.

As to the issue of federalism, we Yorubas have always been at the fore front and that has not changed. You should not confuse the statements of some Yoruba politicians in power now to mean the position of Yoruba people on the issue. In Yorubaland we don't worship politicians or follow them blindly. Everybody is entitled to his own opinion.

rlauncher:


Igbos always trying to twist history because if inferiority complex

Sorry, do you have an intelligent reply?

Igboid:


They are the bitter truth you hate to hear, because you are covered with falsehoods.

The document you submitted can be easily used to mislead. The Igbos having more teachers in school does not mean the same as having more pupils in school.The west employed the numbers of teachers they can cater for . Pupils ratio to teachers at that time in the west used to be 40 to 1 and we used to have shifts. Some people will go to school in the morning while the rest will go in the afternoon.

The document also confirmed what I said about Zik using his position and influence to make sure that Igbo people practically occupy all the positions in Federal ministries and parastatals.

Did you notice that the writer did not mention the Igbos dominating the multinationals and Industries. Why? Because it requires real competition to get employment with those companies while government work was based on man knows man

ezeagu:


Sorry, do you have an intelligent reply?

Are you satisfied now