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Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 3:41pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
wirinet:Yes. I accept taxonomy not evolution |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 3:45pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
SirShifty:Theistic evolutionists are not evolutionist don't confuse them. Not all creationist believe in 6000years old earth |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 3:47pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
SirShifty:It's not only Christians that reject evolution 1 Like |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 3:51pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
SirWere:Then what are you doing here 1 Like |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 4:05pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
wirinet:That's a big lie, do you think everyone in the West accepts evolution. They have largest number of creationist proponents |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by CoolUsername: 4:41pm On Oct 30, 2016 |
Kalatium: Doesn't the link show examples of previous members of the same species unable to bread with reach other? That is what speciation is. 1 Like |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 11:53am On Oct 31, 2016 |
CoolUsername: It's not that I am denying that it happens, but evidences for microevolution are not evidence for macroevolution. Speciation does not guarantee macroevolution. We are still yet to observe macroevolution. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Seun(m): 12:09pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Kalatium:If speciation isn't macro-evolution, then what is macroevolution? Can you elaborate on what you'd accept as direct evidence for macroevolution? |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by CoolUsername: 5:23pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Kalatium: The difference between the Poodle and the Great Dane is termed microevolution by you. Are you also going to call the difference between the Dog and the Wolf microevolution, too? |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Seun(m): 5:30pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
What's Kalatium's definition of macroevolution, since he is now saying "speciation does not guarantee macroevolution"? I don't know how we could possibly proceed without a definition of that. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by UyiIredia(m): 5:30pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
CoolUsername: Yes. Dogs and wolves are the same species. And macroevolution is changes within a species. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by UyiIredia(m): 5:31pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Seun: Macroevolution is changes above the level of a species. That has been observed. Case in point ring species. 1 Like |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by CoolUsername: 5:41pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
UyiIredia: You mean to tell me that the Canis lupus and the Canis familiaris, two animals with different specific names belong to the same species? |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by PastorAIO: 5:52pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
UyiIredia: I think you mean dogs and wolves are the same Genus. Not species. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 6:58pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Ask him o |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 7:00pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Don't mind him, he's confused |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 7:02pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
The issue of hoaxes which occurs mostly in the 19th and 20th century is an undisputable fact against evolution because .how sure are we that we are not misled today. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 9:48pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
CoolUsername: No |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by CoolUsername: 10:31pm On Oct 31, 2016 |
Kalatium: So why did you say that the observed branching out a specie into two distinct species isn't macroevolution? 1 Like |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 10:20am On Nov 01, 2016 |
CoolUsername:I only said speciation is not a guarantee of macroevolution |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 10:22am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Some are trying to say that evolution is different from abiogenesis, big bang and other cosmic evolution, but the fact is that they are wrong. They confuse biological evolution with evolution itself. The word "evolution" does not apply exclusively to biological evolution. The universe and our solar system have developed out of the explosion of matter that began our known universe. Chemical elements have evolved from simpler matter. Life has evolved from non-life, and complex organisms from simpler forms. Languages, religions, and political systems all evolve. Hence, evolution is an appropriate theme for a course on global change. 1 Like |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by PastorAIO: 10:32am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Kalatium: Everything is evolution. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Seun(m): 11:45am On Nov 01, 2016 |
Kalatium:Which is utter nonsense, at best. It's like saying that being tall is no guarantee of height. CoolUsername has defeated your argument. Kalatium:Apologists love to mess with the definitions of key words to create an atmosphere of confusion in which their nonsensical ideas can thrive. The theory of evolution, abiogenesis, the big bang theory, and star formation are very different and no sane purpose is served by conflating them. PastorAIO:Don't fall for this trap. He wants to be able to claim that evolution is not true by discrediting the other things that he's classifying as evolution. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by PastorAIO: 12:17pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
Seun: I'll try not to fall for any trap, however it is my position, and I've stated many times in this forum, that every form is subject to change/evolution. This is true whether the form in question is the Genetic material of a species, The structure and lexicon of a language, The geo-political structure of the globe, The Ideology and structure of a religion or religions, The meteorological patterns of the weather, Fashions and sartorial trends etc etc etc.. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 3:58pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
Seun: You get it wrong, go and research. Evolution is global stop confusing it with theory of (biological) evolution. What are you trying to prove. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 4:06pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
Go to this link for clarification http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange1/current/lectures/speciation/speciation.html Read the first and second paragraph |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by CoolUsername: 6:17pm On Nov 01, 2016 |
Kalatium: Wat. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 3:24pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
CoolUsername: Kalatium: CoolUsername: |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 10:32pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
Lennycool:I carried out research |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Kalatium(m): 10:36pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
Why do people keep shouting that there are proofs for evolutionary theory. The fact is that a theory can only be disproven it can never be proven. Evolutionary theory can only be backed by evidence but can never be proven. But it can be disproven. |
Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by Nobody: 11:02pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
Kalatium:From where? Suya wrappings? 1 Like |
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