PastorAIO:


I wonder what criteria they used to measure these minds. Was it done with a ruler? Or a thermometer?

And google has the answer, of course. Gugu has answers for everything.

PastorAIO:


If you like let me be the 1 billionth person to question this, that does not in any way change the fact that there are many hoaxes in the bible.

So according to your logic the bible must be 'indisputably' false. Abi?

If you like hide behind 'lack of evidence'. Simple basic laws of logical rigor will tell you that if Jesus was born in 4AD and Herod died in 6BC then Herod could not have tried to kill Jesus. I don't know what other evidence you are looking for.

Kalatium:

What am saying is that your assertions are or only inconclusive. You don't know why Luke wrote it that way

PastorAIO:


It is very conclusive o. Why Luke wrote it that way has no bearing on anything. If you like let Luke write it upside down the fact remains that Mutual exclusivity, the bedrock of logic, tells us that someone who died in 6bc cannot try to kill someone who was born in 4 ad. Therefore it is a hoax. And indeed there is not record of such an event recorded anywhere else in history.



However what is starkly clear to me now is that you are a bigot because you are not willing to apply the logic that you want to use to dismiss Evolution to evaluate christianity.

PastorAIO:


It is very conclusive o. Why Luke wrote it that way has no bearing on anything. If you like let Luke write it upside down the fact remains that Mutual exclusivity, the bedrock of logic, tells us that someone who died in 6bc cannot try to kill someone who was born in 4 ad. Therefore it is a hoax. And indeed there is not record of such an event recorded anywhere else in history.



However what is starkly clear to me now is that you are a bigot because you are not willing to apply the logic that you want to use to dismiss Evolution to evaluate christianity.

Kalatium:

Hoax is a bad word to use, I will prefer you to say inconsistency

Kalatium:
people
You got me wrong again, I am not dismissing evolution, I mean that some theories in evolution have problems and are inconclusive.
I don't remember dismissing all of evolution. Some things are true without doubt while some are mere speculation

Kalatium:
The biggest shame committed by evolution is forgery, evolutionists forge evidences just to prove their theory(e.g Ernst haekel, who drew fake drawings in comparing the anatomy of vertebrates) but they were exposed by other scientists. Go to this link http://www.6000years.org/frame.php?page=hoaxes
The issue of hoaxes is an undisputable fact against evolution because how sure are we that we are not misled today.

PastorAIO:





Since we have now established that the bible was full of hoaxes (or inconsistencies) How can we be sure that christians are not misled today?

Kalatium:

I get your point.
I think we have to open a new thread about this.
But as for now you are deviating from the topic. We are talking about evolution,ok

PastorAIO:




Please Why are the proofs of Evolution you referred to Hoaxes while the Biblical ones are not hoaxes?

What is the difference?

Why could Piltdown man not just be inconsistent with the truth?

Kalatium:

A hoax is something with an intent to deceive. Piltdown man is a deception while biblical ones are contradictions, inconsistencies and anachronisms

PastorAIO:


Okay. So will you now retract your statement that hoaxes in the study of Evolution does not amount to discrediting Evolution?

PastorAIO:


So how is the Johannine comma an inconsistency? It was an obvious intent to deceive men, don't beat around the bush.

Kalatium:

Johannine Comma is not an inconsistency it is a scribal addition.

Kalatium:
Can we concentrate on evolution

PastorAIO:


we haven't left evolution. I am with you all the way on evolution. I'm just trying to point out your double standards when you criticise evolution .

PastorAIO:

Thank you. To wit, it is a hoax.

PastorAIO:


So how is the Johannine comma an inconsistency? It was an obvious intent to deceive men, don't beat around the bush.

Kalatium:

But it did not succeed unlike piltdown man

Kalatium:

Whatever... Am even tired of arguing with you

PastorAIO:


You wouldn't be tired if you had the decency a while back to just admit to your double standard.


I suppose that to expect an apology from you would just be asking too much. Way too much even.

PastorAIO:


If piltdown man succeeded then we wouldn't be here today calling it a hoax.

Johannine comma succeeded for centuries compared to piltdown man for a few years.

PastorAIO:


If piltdown man succeeded then we wouldn't be here today calling it a hoax.

Johannine comma succeeded for centuries compared to piltdown man for a few years.

Kalatium:

Apology for what

Kalatium:

From evolution to Biblical discrepancies to Johannine Comma

raphieMontella:
PastorAIO,please pity for the boy na!

PastorAIO:


Come on, you're not that daft. Surely your mind can encompass the range.

Or maybe it can't, and that's why you cannot see your bigotry where in one case you use the very same argument to dismiss Evolution yet fail to apply it in the case of your religious beliefs.

I cannot help you if your mental capacity is simply not vast enough.

PastorAIO:


Okay. So will you now retract your statement that hoaxes in the study of Evolution does not amount to discrediting Evolution?

Kalatium:
Where were you since