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Re: Spirit Lives by urheme: 4:26pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Sarassin: what!!!!!!! THIS IS SOME STRANGE STORIES. spiritual matters....so difficult to understand......"jump into you".....waoh!!! |
Re: Spirit Lives by Nobody: 5:02pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
urheme: It may be difficult to understand, but it is far more common. It seems to me people are raised on a Church diet of evil spirits, malign spirits and the like. But malign spirits are in distinct minority, there exists far more wonderful, pure and helpful entities who stand ready to illuminate our lives. In the Gnostic Gospel of Judas, Jesus reputedly states that he emitted a legion of good Angels. |
Re: Spirit Lives by Wilgrea7(m): 6:10pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Re: Spirit Lives by Ranchhoddas: 6:19pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:Know what? I don't deserve to be a Nigerian. It was naught but a cosmic accident! 1 Like |
Re: Spirit Lives by MrMontella(m): 6:38pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
AngelsAndStars:my brother nawaoo...a big ''wa'' 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Spirit Lives by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Sarassin: I do not know much about freemasons in general, but in that case, it was indeed one. He was fare more advanced than me at that time (I was 19). He just made a sign with the hand, and I fell to the ground. Inexplicably and involuntary, some force arose from within and protected me, or else he would have done more harm to me. I want to believe, it is the love and compassion I had for his child that kept me (and him) safe from that attack. Incidentally, the young child is full grown now, and he calls me... "Master" . |
Re: Spirit Lives by 4kings: 6:48pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
@ Sarassin and LoJ Have you ever considered the possibility that you might be "seeing things" or under "delusion".. I don't mean to attack your beliefs, I just want to know how you distinguish "Reality, Delusion and Spiritual matters" in a general sense. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Spirit Lives by Wilgrea7(m): 6:51pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Sarassin: Good day sir... the above is a real problem in my case... i know the spiritual plane is vast and probably 10 times bigger than our plain.. i feel the reason for so much ignorance in the world is because we lack insight into the spiritual plane... i always say experience is better than letter... but Sir i have a few questions... is it possible for someone to have a wrong experience of something in the spiritual plane? concerning astral projection, i have been pondering over the fact for quite some time now... someone told me you need some sort of spiritual energy to do stuffs like that... either from God or from the devil... is it really a God devil scenario?? or do we possess the energy within and just need to harness it?? what about getting assaulted or attacked by spirits in the spirit plane... thanks Sir cc: Sarassin , Loj |
Re: Spirit Lives by Ranchhoddas: 6:57pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
MrMontella:A very big fat 'wa'. What are your thoughts? Is there anything to what they are saying or is it one mighty hallucination? 1 Like |
Re: Spirit Lives by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
4kings:Hello 4kings, it is always a pleasure to read from you. There is a whole world of difference (in terms of spiritual maturity) between Sarassin and me, so what i will say applies to me only. Illusions and delusions are challenges that mystics and spiritual men face. This is especially true for people like me who are still in the process of awakening and learning. So it is something we (I) are (am) well aware of, and careful about. It is also one of the reasons, I do not share the many other experiences I have had (or have). For this reason, I maintain a skeptical stance and always struggle to validate the genuineness of an experience through independent objective elements/persons. For instance, since I am very young, I see the future or ask to "beings" about the outcome of an event, I record it, and wait for it to happen. I now frequently see people who I did not know before with distinct features. I recently described to a Lady in Paris her Boyfriend, whom I had never seen with 100% accuracy. These are repeated examples of what I call objective independent elements of confirmation. In addition, the fear of being wrong/ delusions is not in itself an answer to the problem. It is my perception that, fake (or self induced) visions and experiences are due to improper rooting and mental instability. The real solution is not to run away from thse experience, but to learn how to be grounded properly and be strong mentally. I hope it helps. Greetings. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Spirit Lives by Nobody: 7:13pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
@ 4kings, You may also note that, many of us are not looking for popularity or publicity nor money, which is a strong motive for self deception. We therefore do not gain much by deceiving ourselves. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Spirit Lives by Nobody: 7:22pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
4kings: You ask a valid question. Carl Jung did state that all spiritual evocations and manifestations are a psychological exploration of the self and to a large degree he was right. But we also can define high Practice as "the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will". It is this Change that has concerned me. Virtually all that I have written here can be experienced by anyone, having practised Mysticism for over 40 years I am constantly amazed at new vista's that open up to me everyday, I find that people are paralyzed by the fear of the unknown, yet the unknown simply waits to embrace us and yield us its secrets. The only delusion is in thinking that nothing else exists. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Spirit Lives by Nobody: 7:43pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Wilgrea7: You are absolutely right, there is a marked lack of insight into the spiritual plane, our senses are majorly dull and we rarely do our souls any favours. If we all would spend just half an hour a day in meditation casting our consciousness out into the universe people's lives would change, but people have already inbuilt obstructions and self-rationalised objections to even this most basic means of transcendence. It is very possible to have a bad experience in the astral plane if one engages without proper preparation, we wouldn’t get into a car and drive off without learning the highway code,(except of course in Nigeria) but it is never a case of God or devil, it is about preparation, preparation and more preparation. In the extreme case that one gets attacked you learn to protect yourself, but really it is a propagation of religious promoters that there are devils lurking around every corner. You are more likely to encounter a divine entity than a malign one. |
Re: Spirit Lives by MrMontella(m): 7:45pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:You know me....by virtue of occam's razor...The latter is my choice on the contrary....My mum once mentioned this sort of experience when her father died..that he bade her farewell before he died....and that she does usually have this thingy dragging feeling and sees ''visions'' before something bad happens..but she doesnt know what it is until it happens..(na so she take they talk am).... On a personal level...never happened and will never happen ...My brain is structured in a way that rejects anything likened to Bs.... I can only say i've had instances of ''deja vu'' but i see it to be ''lapses'' in the process of memory storage in the brain.. |
Re: Spirit Lives by Nobody: 8:06pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
MrMontella: I think there's nothing wrong with a healthy dose of skepticism. Also I think your Mum clearly has strong intuitive abilities. 1 Like |
Re: Spirit Lives by 4kings: 8:15pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
LoJ:Thanks
Sarassin:Are these experiences a result of volition or "they just happen". Also, are these experiences not open to different interpretations(chances or coincidences). "Belief" is a very strong force, and also influence perception of reality... That's why I can't make any assertions yet concerning this... Anyways can you give me more Enlightenment on opening this "third eye". BTW, @ Sarassin "over 40 years" into Mysticism that is very impressive, I think I have a lot to learn. And do you guys know Greg Braden by chance...just asking. |
Re: Spirit Lives by Anas09: 8:42pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
4kings:Hmmmm. |
Re: Spirit Lives by Ranchhoddas: 8:57pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
MrMontella:Life is easier this way. No need to complicate things. |
Re: Spirit Lives by 4kings: 9:08pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Anas09:Watsup...? Is something wrong? |
Re: Spirit Lives by jonnyp(m): 10:23pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Sarassin: |
Re: Spirit Lives by MizMyColi(f): 11:29pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
AngelsAndStars: Azzin eehhh Thanks LoJ and Sarassin If this is the kind of threads that are usually created in religion section, I don't mind being a full time member. 3 Likes |
Re: Spirit Lives by AngelsAndStars(m): 11:34pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
MizMyColi:Asin am just confused in this world. so many truths flying everywhere. I was in church this evening and they were preaching stuffs I was just looking, I was just wondering if that one sef is truth. the muslims will come with their own. violently with passion. saying their own is the truth. nna am tired. everybody seems so sure. but really who is right? am confused meehn 2 Likes |
Re: Spirit Lives by MizMyColi(f): 3:29am On Jan 10, 2017 |
AngelsAndStars: Follow your truth. More importantly, be true to yourself. There is a spirit in man, and the inspiration of the almighty gives him understanding.... 3 Likes |
Re: Spirit Lives by Anas09: 7:46am On Jan 10, 2017 |
4kings:. |
Re: Spirit Lives by MuttleyLaff: 8:07am On Jan 10, 2017 |
AngelsAndStars:The only person that categorically & only, HAS EVER SAID, He is the way and the truth and the life, is Jesus Christ Buddha, doesnt say he is or claim to be, all three at once Mohammed doesnt say he is or claim to be, all three at once No one except Jesus, has come out to explicitly or directly say He is the way and the truth and the life. ... Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. - Galatians 1:7 MizMyColi:Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me - John 14:6 MizMyColi:Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not rely on your own understanding; - Proverbs 3:5 Whoever trusts in himself is foolish, but whoever lives wisely will be kept safe - Proverbs 28:26 2 Likes |
Re: Spirit Lives by frank317: 8:21am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Ya all talking about spirits, perhaps u can help me with these nagging questions. What form do spirits have? I mean the ones u saw.were they in human form? Do they have nose mouth and stomach? Was that how u saw them? If they do does it mean they breath? Eat and go to toilet like us? Were they naked? Or clothed? Of do they have a whole new form, i.e, a very different unrecognisable shape? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Spirit Lives by frank317: 8:29am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Anas09: U are a very irrational person and seriously, I pity ur future husband. Just were are all these rantings coming from just becasue 4kings asked simple question. Everything about u shows how sex starved u are, u don't even belong to this thread, u don't have the maturity to be here. Go somewhere and get laid pls. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Spirit Lives by Anas09: 10:48am On Jan 10, 2017 |
frank317:You and my sex life. Na waooo. U actually think that sex is everything? Oh wait, you are Nyphomaniac. Frank, you are free to serve your satan, all i ask is, leave Christians alone. Just imagine your outbust. Do you think am sex starved becos there are no men around me? Lol. I am a delectable girl, i stay celibate for God until i marry. Now get off masturnating over my celibacy. No be your type. If i want a man it wont be an ordinary male like you. 4 Likes |
Re: Spirit Lives by AngelsAndStars(m): 11:20am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Anas09:Aaaaaawwww a virgin? wow |
Re: Spirit Lives by frank317: 11:34am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Anas09: I never asked u to want me... I know u are celibate...It's obvious from ur rantings in this forum. It's nobody's fault u took a celibacy oat, u are sex starved hence ur unnecessary out burst. I am telling u ur problem, u might not know it but u actually seriously really always sound like a sex starved biactch. U need to get laid ASAP before u begin to violate urself |
Re: Spirit Lives by benzics(m): 11:50am On Jan 10, 2017 |
4kings:My thoughts though.. It could most likely be deja vu, thinking you already saw this happen.. But I don't know though, it's their experiences not mine, I do get deja vu's too But is it a coincidence that things like this always happen to people who believe in them?? |
Re: Spirit Lives by benzics(m): 11:56am On Jan 10, 2017 |
Anas09:for real? Was this thread talking about "gods"?
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