Opakan2:
Lemme be honest with you..

yorubas have seen civilization more than any other tribe and will never compromise on standard and safety. Innoson can keep welding motor parts as if it's wheel barrow he's producing with no prototype or models.

Sooner or later those companies he's stealing their concept will sue him, then he'll know whatsup

I trust abok.iis, they fear ibo pass anything.. they'll rather trek than board any vehicle made by ibos

Walphem:
The thread your responded to as been vague was absolutely more in depth than yours. He gave facts, while you argued on emotions. As RIM where are they today? Also where is NOKIA today? If you don't take the right steps at the right time, one will just be part of evolution.

Innosson can not thrive with its current business model.

ezeagu:


The majority of your people still live in slums and backward hamlets so what is this civilisation you're on about?

hugoboss70:
I took my time to carefully read both write ups and agree with certain points of both writers. I wish to point out some reasons why I tend to agree more with the rebuttal. In doing a major brand marketing and expansion of showrooms across the country the cost to innoson would run into billions of naira. Money which I don't think any indeginious manufacturer can afford to part with bearing in mind the risk involved in such a venture. Spending such huge amount of money could kill the biznes totally. Also imagine a scenerio where innoson actually borrows from a bank to do this all a foriegn manufacturer needs do to kill innoson would be to crash the price of there cars bearing in mind that they have access to cheaper electricity and government grants to protect there bizness. No one will buy a well marketed innoson suv for 8million when a Toyota suv could go for 7million. And with billions of naira spent on marketing and expanion innoson would definetly go under sooner or later. When dis happen the foreign manufacturer then steps in and buys over innoson. As much as we would all love to see innoson everywhere at once it makes more bizness sense to start small and gradually buy the hearts of the populace rather than involve in a popularity contest with a known maker. I believe he Is moving in the right direction in trying to get all levels of government and military to solely use his product then establish a fallback or backbone for his bizness before gradually entering the market. My personal opinion I may be wrong but it's just my own 2cents. Ps both ops mean well so I really don't see a need for bants being thrown or insults. NIGERIA WILL BE GREAT SOON

BlindAngel:
Innoson cars indeed, una want make person dey drive for road then unexpectedly his tires will pull off

chronique:
I can't argue with the OP but there are some things that do not add up. A company that cannot produce enough for local consumption, is selling cars in Ghana(exporting)? Just the way Nigeria can't provide constant electricity for 180m people,but can supply electricity to Benin republic and they have almost 24hrs power supply? I guess this is a Nigerian problem. What is the population of Ghana? Can it be compared with Nigeria? Do you have an idea of the amount of cars that come into this country daily? Innoson can't even cater for 5% of the volume of sales; so what business do they have exporting to Ghana?

How many units of buses, cars, SUV, trucks, etc,do they roll out every year? If they can't meet demand, shouldn't that be seen as a good problem? Does the management not know about SWOT analysis? If they can't meet demand, shouldn't they begin to think of expansion? I could go on and on and on. But one thing is sure, as far as the business of vehicle manufacturing is concerned and the management of the business, they are not doing the right thing. Let someone like Dangote delve into that sector, and see what wonders he would perform.

myplaydiary:
Your problem is not really a big one, you simply have comprehension problem, which you can correct by reading primary school comprehension text books and answering the questions correctly.

vicadex07:



You're a dumbass fucktarrrrd. Why are you so quick to insult anyone that tries to engage you. So it's a crime to disagree with you abi... Nonsense...

myplaydiary:
Its you throwing the insults here, However i will answer your question without throwing jabs, you want an answer why i was rude to him right? My reason is this; If he read the post as expected, in that post i addressed all the issues he raised, but he asked everything that had been addressed is that post, if he read that post why would he ask the same questions that have been addressed if that is not a comprehension problem, what is? Minds you having a comprehension problem is not an insult not everybody is good at comprehension same way not everyone is good with Maths. I am writing this in very simple English so i don't have the same problem with you. Please read slowly again before you comment.

myplaydiary:
My write up must have hit a nerve for you to think i work with innoson, while i would love too work with them though, i however need to draw your errs to public knowledge. Your post was indeed very misleading, too bad for an auto blogger, i understand you must eat but do so with common sense, don't pull one down to exalt yourself, i would have love to educate you further but i see you are really hurting already.

Have a good evening.

Lordsocrates:
I think our problem as a Nation is that Elections has so destroyed our mindsets so that.. its either you are for PDP or APC, you are for Nigeria or Biafra, You are for Not to rule, or you are not.. you are Christian or Muslim...

we are so divided that we forget that some grey lines exist, that they are people, who stand in between, and are for the well being of Humanity.

I am a very proud Nigerian, the first time I heard of the Innoson brand, I ran to Facebook and made so much noise that Nigeria has finally produced a car...
but fast forward to today, I was hoping that by now, innoson will conquer the market, but here in Aks that is relatively close to d east, I see innoson once in 6months..

Autong.. Was only trying to offer some advice, which companies pay billions to consultancy firm for..and all you think is that he hates innoson, you u hv to do a rebuttal trade for it to pain him.
I was hoping that in your rebuttal you will contradict all he started..
like the (1). poor customer service.
(2) no advert (3) no showroom (4) creativity in design etc...
bit you ran up here to defend failure.

its the Nigerian Mentality that is killing everything.. you say a govt is not performing and people come telling you why you should not say its not performing...

innoson is selling himself short, the whole Nigerian Market is his to conquer... he may borrow money to expand, or he may continue playing small, while the OP continues playing drums for him... same as there are people playing drums for the govt even when they fail at some things. this attitude is destroying our country and we need to stop it.. can't someone gv a honest and logical criticism without being a hater ?

myplaydiary:
Facts you say? Comparing a company that is barely 15 years with Multinationals and companies that are over 150 years, featuring in the F1 race and own car brands like the RR and you say facts, now let me ask you would it be fair to have a JSS3 pupil write Senior WAEC with SS3 students simply because they are all student? Stop putting Innoson and Multinationals in the same sentence compare innoson with other African brands like the one made in Ghana then we can see how it fairs.Innoson has to start from some where to grow. Shalom.

myplaydiary:
My write up must have hit a nerve for you to think i work with innoson, while i would love too work with them though, i however need to draw your errs to public knowledge. Your post was indeed very misleading, too bad for an auto blogger, i understand you must eat but do so with common sense, don't pull one down to exalt yourself, i would have love to educate you further but i see you are really hurting already.

Have a good evening.

myplaydiary:
who says innoson is not active on social media the issue to be discussed is if he is doing enough on social media, and if it is established to a logical end that he is not doing enough, reason should be determined before judgement or castigation, non of which was established in the previous post.

Also is its only social media, that you interact with clients do you know for one if he has or uses other channels, do you know if he sends newsletters because i for one know he once had a partnership with a bank to promote and market the cars at subsidised rates, why didnt first OP give him credit for that.

Mr., is it only social media that you get information of what is happening in your enviroment, i dont want to believe you are trolling or just being sentimental.

Answer to your Questions:
Is the local bottle water made in your area competing with Eva water made by coca cola? but they sell? don't they?

Going by their current production capacity innoson is over strectched, so yes it is safe to say innoson is in high demand in Nigeria, by their own standards. Like i said at the moment innoson is in no competition with any "multinational" coy so why call toyota, when the time is right innoson will compete favorably.

Individuals are not necessarily the "references, customers and clients" i was referring too, infact i was not referring to individual at all, i cleary mentioned, Federal and state government also add Agencies, Parastatals, Corporate organizations, NGO's and Churches, if Innoson gets this right, like i said the sales becomes organic as trust and confidence will be establish in the car brand, and sales will come in via referral and word of mouth publicity.

Mr., That is for sincere and honest feedback, what you read on this thread by those who have never seen an innoson, but will still be the first to tell you that the tires will fall off or the car would burst into flames, are those honest feedbacks? or do you think these same people wont go and troll the innoson pages. See i was not being sentimental in my post and i was not trying to bash the op of the first thread i was simply trying to let him see through the lines but his ego let him take it personal.

If after reading my post and reading this comment and you still maintain thesame stand then you are not being sincere and i just wasted my time responding to you questions.

chronique:
I can't argue with the OP but there are some things that do not add up. A company that cannot produce enough for local consumption, is selling cars in Ghana(exporting)? Just the way Nigeria can't provide constant electricity for 180m people,but can supply electricity to Benin republic and they have almost 24hrs power supply? I guess this is a Nigerian problem. What is the population of Ghana? Can it be compared with Nigeria? Do you have an idea of the amount of cars that come into this country daily? Innoson can't even cater for 5% of the volume of sales; so what business do they have exporting to Ghana?

How many units of buses, cars, SUV, trucks, etc,do they roll out every year? If they can't meet demand, shouldn't that be seen as a good problem? Does the management not know about SWOT analysis? If they can't meet demand, shouldn't they begin to think of expansion? I could go on and on and on. But one thing is sure, as far as the business of vehicle manufacturing is concerned and the management of the business, they are not doing the right thing. Let someone like Dangote delve into that sector, and see what wonders he would perform.

ChiefSweetus:

You are mad!
You lucky say i no quote 80% for you. abeg lets move on from this contentious 30%, i never chop bro.

EmekaBlue:
D real fact aside ur write up is plain Jealousy coz its done by those yeebos abi yamiri

myplaydiary:
You are not seeing the clear picture here, we are talking about an indigenous company that can barely raise forex against multinationals, i hope you notice how federal government started to favour nissan the moment they indicated interest to setup shop in Nigeria and did you see how they got all the patronages when they came on stream while innoson looked on, like i said i only tried to keep the post short, i could keep going, but i needed nairalanders to read before commenting It's just like saying Big Cola going against coca cola. No chance bruv.