Omoluabi16:
very surprising from you. You want to keep the cycle going abi? the east-north alliance, west-north alliance. Back and forth and yet both regions have always had their fingers burnt. This your idea maybe noble, but it is once again crown northern nigeria as the defacto lord and masters over nigeria. The feeling out there is if northern nigeria change, Nigeria will be better for it. No one is a minority in any country, any region is ripe enough to stand on its own. Less numbered countries with fewer resources are doing well. The SS are also victims of the nigerian setting, I dare say they are worse off than you igbos. Ally with the north, you get a V.P slot, where you will continually be undermined like the prof there. No amount of alliance will save nigeria if there is no COLLECTIVE will and interest in the nigerian project. Since 1960, have ever had anything collective? even Abiola's election was annulled by the same people.

Aren't they?

HungerBAD:
Et tu Afam4eva?

Afam4eva i am disappointed in your write up. You started your write up very well,but ended it wrongly.

Like you said,the problem of the East is the East and they should work on themselves,both on the areas of strategy and making themselves relevant by banding together as one voice.

For you to somehow now start throwing jabs at the South-South,is an approach in the teachings of a defeatist mentality.

Why cant you guys be "A MAN" for once and accept your short comings?if you guys are not blaming the North,you are busy blaming the West,and now you have added a new dimension to it by blaming the minority South-South.

Afam when will you guys blame yourselves for your failures?when will you guys stop blaming others?this is shameful.

Good advice. And this is what Nigeria values from the Igbo's.

Afam4eva:

Aren't they?

It seems so. That is why Nigeria is where it is today.

Shawnnn01:


A lot of you Igbos are very unwise. Pls tell is Igbo the only ethnicity btw two states are hausa yoruba Ijaw, urhobo not sharing different states with other ethnicity in Nigeria. What is wrong with the brains of you Igbos for God sake ? I pray you Igbo do not perish because of foolishness.

you need to talk with a sense of literacy and civility how dare you use such word on a whole ethnic nationality.

you must refrain from such public display of recklessness.

Mynd44:
This is not the worst time for Igbos, it is actually the best time for Igbo piliticians but it takes some dynamic thinking to realize this. Say what you want about Tinubu but he understood this early and he played the game well, "you cannot go and play in the big leagues if you do not have big players who turn up and show up".

What does that mean? Look at the present crop of Political leaders in the SW and immediate environs (from the 6 states to Kogi and Edo) and you can actually pick enough people called "Tinubu boys" who have political clout and weight. These are peoole who have been tested and have the strenght and dynamism. Even those who are deemed estranged like Fayemi and Fasola. And guess what, they also show up meaning they hold down their own house and can turn up political numbers anyday. Do a number of Tinubu Boys in Lagos alone and be shocked, from Hamzat to Leke Pitan. Not trying to praise Tinubu but this type of alliance is needed. I have not seen one single politician in the SE that commands such respect accross the board in the SE. How can you position yourself for National politics if you have not conqured regional politics?

How can you hold your own when you can't show up to a party meeting with atleast 15 boys who are willing to work for you from all the states? Almost every SE politician is just popular in each of his/her state. This is the problem governors who perform like Obaino and talkers (even though he does too much) like Peter Obi has. They need people to fight for them and hold down other states for them.

You call it godfatherism, I say it is alliances. Imagine if Okorocha can boast of having a huge support base from not just Imo but also Ebonyi, Abia, Rivers and Enugu. That is 5 states. He is already in a good position for any political negotiation and he is more likely to get what he asks for if he wants to form an alliance with anyone.

Saraki did not become this influential by locking himself in Kwara did he? No, he played his politics in his region. Same as El Rufai. You guys have no idea the politics that happened on the morning of the primaries between Fashola, El Rufai and Tinubu. That could have cost President Buhari the ticket if not for alliances.

This is also the problem Akpabio has, his support basically stops in Akwa Ibom (which the governor is doing his best to uproot) outside the state, none. Atleast Amaechi even though he is as dramatic as a woman(no disrespect to women) but he is bringing his boys out and giving them posts who will in turn spread his own political clout. This is not national politics, this is regional oooo.

People wonder why the Tinubu group can be so confident about Lagos? Cos they have done the work of 100 years. They have almost every traditional leader, every market leader, every motor park, and almost every structure on the informal side and the formal side, they allow the social media boys do the dirt fight. If you dont know, you cant beat the Tinubu boys on twitter and Facebook. They are too crazy to fight.

This is time for SE politicians to forge intra-regional alliances. Have one or two politicians in the SE and parts of the SS who can boast of atleast 30% of voters in each state in terms of senators, HoRs, state assemblies etc and then launch for the National scale.

Oh, this victim thingy and expecting things to fall into your arms has to stop. Pick yourself up and stop claiming marginalization; everybody in Nigeria has been marginalized but not everyone choose to wear it on their sleeves. Stop attacking other tribes because you feel they have it better or they made better calculations, if you lose, take that L with your chest, go home and work on it, come back to another fight smoking and looking new (political fights are not every 4 years, they are every re-run election, every party ward primary, every local government poll) put your players in position that will help spread your influence so when they call your name in one place, the response is heard from 7 places. That is political influence.

And politicians have to stop looking like tribal bigots (even if you are, you are a politician, polish yourself). See how commissioners in Lagos, went to be senators, ministers and governors. Dont restrict your planning to one tribe. Ambode did a lot of the financing of Edo politics on Tinubu's behalf now, they have a governor they can plan with. Governors in the SE have to capture grounds outside their state, make none indigenes commissioners and advisers and send them to be senators and what have you in their states.

God is my witness I read this 3x

God bless you sire

HungerBAD:
Et tu Afam4eva?

Afam4eva i am disappointed in your write up. You started your write up very well,but ended it wrongly.

Like you said,the problem of the East is the East and they should work on themselves,both on the areas of strategy and making themselves relevant by banding together as one voice.

For you to somehow now start throwing jabs at the South-South,is an approach in the teachings of a defeatist mentality.

Why cant you guys be "A MAN" for once and accept your short comings?if you guys are not blaming the North,you are busy blaming the West,and now you have added a new dimension to it by blaming the minority South-South.

Afam when will you guys blame yourselves for your failures?when will you guys stop blaming others?this is shameful.

The Igbos ideology is that all around them are wrong except them.

I guess that's the height of self deceit.

Cooly100:
I stopped reading all the trash here.

All this trash about building bridges, putting all eggs in one basket, bla, bla, bla...is all about an Igbo presidency. My question is, how would an Igbo presidency change the evil machination of the country? How has OBJ and GEJ affected the situation in the south?

I support a surgical restructuring of the country where regions operate at their own pace... or even a total separation, with maximum powers for the entities to develop at their own pace. Anything else is just to maintain the status quo, and we would continue to go in circles of failure...corruption, nepotism, quota system, and religious hegemony...which has set Nigeria back in the league of nations like Singapore and Malaysia, that started almost at the same time...

I don't care about the abokis, the afonjas, the south south or whatever they are called. We should just live separately as good neighbors...and do our things...Ghana is small but many Nigerians flock there...so? I prefer a good life in a small country than a hopeless life in a big for nothing country...

Hmmmm.

The bolded attracted my attention.
"How has OBJ and GEJ affected the situation in the south?"

Fourteen years was more than enough to make many marks as leaders.

Mynd44:
This is not the worst time for Igbos, it is actually the best time for Igbo piliticians but it takes some dynamic thinking to realize this. Say what you want about Tinubu but he understood this early and he played the game well, "you cannot go and play in the big leagues if you do not have big players who turn up and show up".

What does that mean? Look at the present crop of Political leaders in the SW and immediate environs (from the 6 states to Kogi and Edo) and you can actually pick enough people called "Tinubu boys" who have political clout and weight. These are peoole who have been tested and have the strenght and dynamism. Even those who are deemed estranged like Fayemi and Fasola. And guess what, they also show up meaning they hold down their own house and can turn up political numbers anyday. Do a number of Tinubu Boys in Lagos alone and be shocked, from Hamzat to Leke Pitan. Not trying to praise Tinubu but this type of alliance is needed. I have not seen one single politician in the SE that commands such respect accross the board in the SE. How can you position yourself for National politics if you have not conqured regional politics?

How can you hold your own when you can't show up to a party meeting with atleast 15 boys who are willing to work for you from all the states? Almost every SE politician is just popular in each of his/her state. This is the problem governors who perform like Obaino and talkers (even though he does too much) like Peter Obi has. They need people to fight for them and hold down other states for them.

You call it godfatherism, I say it is alliances. Imagine if Okorocha can boast of having a huge support base from not just Imo but also Ebonyi, Abia, Rivers and Enugu. That is 5 states. He is already in a good position for any political negotiation and he is more likely to get what he asks for if he wants to form an alliance with anyone.

Saraki did not become this influential by locking himself in Kwara did he? No, he played his politics in his region. Same as El Rufai. You guys have no idea the politics that happened on the morning of the primaries between Fashola, El Rufai and Tinubu. That could have cost President Buhari the ticket if not for alliances.

This is also the problem Akpabio has, his support basically stops in Akwa Ibom (which the governor is doing his best to uproot) outside the state, none. Atleast Amaechi even though he is as dramatic as a woman(no disrespect to women) but he is bringing his boys out and giving them posts who will in turn spread his own political clout. This is not national politics, this is regional oooo.

People wonder why the Tinubu group can be so confident about Lagos? Cos they have done the work of 100 years. They have almost every traditional leader, every market leader, every motor park, and almost every structure on the informal side and the formal side, they allow the social media boys do the dirt fight. If you dont know, you cant beat the Tinubu boys on twitter and Facebook. They are too crazy to fight.

This is time for SE politicians to forge intra-regional alliances. Have one or two politicians in the SE and parts of the SS who can boast of atleast 30% of voters in each state in terms of senators, HoRs, state assemblies etc and then launch for the National scale.

Oh, this victim thingy and expecting things to fall into your arms has to stop. Pick yourself up and stop claiming marginalization; everybody in Nigeria has been marginalized but not everyone choose to wear it on their sleeves. Stop attacking other tribes because you feel they have it better or they made better calculations, if you lose, take that L with your chest, go home and work on it, come back to another fight smoking and looking new (political fights are not every 4 years, they are every re-run election, every party ward primary, every local government poll) put your players in position that will help spread your influence so when they call your name in one place, the response is heard from 7 places. That is political influence.

And politicians have to stop looking like tribal bigots (even if you are, you are a politician, polish yourself). See how commissioners in Lagos, went to be senators, ministers and governors. Dont restrict your planning to one tribe. Ambode did a lot of the financing of Edo politics on Tinubu's behalf now, they have a governor they can plan with. Governors in the SE have to capture grounds outside their state, make none indigenes commissioners and advisers and send them to be senators and what have you in their states.

Was Nnamdi Azikiwe a godfather? What ever that might mean? I think he was and so the idea that that won't work in Eboe land is wrong. What has happened now is a lack of political discipline and general disorderliness. Let someone tell me one word of intelligence that ha come out of mouth of the likes of Orji Uzor Kalu for one day.
Now anyone that has money is a leader in Eboeland And Is Not disciplined enough To Be subordinate To another person To Me that Is Disorderliness And unruliness Not Egalitarianism

TonyeBarcanista:
Exactly! Political influence... and whose fault is it? Nobody's but the candidates that think they earn the right to their votes of their tribesmen simply because they are of one tribe.

Ojukwu never really campaigned to win, he hinged his hope on his Biafra heroism amongst Igbo people, falsely believing that it will not only earn him Igbo votes but also the Presidency on assumption of "let's give it to him". But politics don't work that way! Else, even your people will look elsewhere.

You campaign vigorously even among your own people, selling your ideas and prospects to them and extending beyond the shores of your clan if you want to win. That was what differentiate Buhari 2015 from Buhari 2003/2007/201.

I have always maintained that nobody owe anybody or region anything when it comes to politics, people seeking for power must not just agitate but fight and push for it.

Ojukwu's intention wasnt to win the election. In his words, he participated in the election just to promote APGA as a progressive political platform.

Few things:

1) We do not need any dumb alliance with any devil to make it.

2) Wake up to the fact that there is ZERO hope for this contraption as it is currently structured.

3) All round Self-assertion is the way to go for the Igbos.

4) It's time to isolate, assert and master. That's the key to self-sufficiency. China did it. Australia did it. Singapore did it. The Jews have been doing it forever. Bleep the Nigerian politics. This is a global village.

5) Harness your stregnths, entrench your idividuality, assert your self-sufficiency, and all will court your attention.

6) You cannot synergize interdependently with folks who think you are needy.

7) Bleep the local synergy. Prove ALL your mockers wrong FIRST. Succed WITHOUT their alliance. That's the way to go for the Igbos.

Afam4eva:

I understand that you're from the south south but what has to be said has tonne said. These people have added nothing to us despite making them our Kimber one allies . All we get is people accusing us of langrabbing and everything under the sun. What I spoke is the gospel truth even though it does n out sit well with you. It's high time we started realigning ourselves with blocks that really matter.

Afam4eva:
You know, this is actually one of the worst times to be an Igbo man as far as being part of the Nigerian entity is concerned. We know that since the end of the civil war the hate for the Igbo man has been engraved in the minds of the average Nigerian, from the west to the North and even to the South-south. Though the Igbos did a pretty good job despite the adversities by pulling themselves out of the rubble and from 1999, we started to enjoy some level of prosperity politically, even though i feel it wasn't enough considering the fact that we're part of the tripod upon which this nation was built. Atleast it was a good start.

However, a little more than a decade later, the Igbo nation is looking more like a conquered territory. Some people blame it on wrong political calculations and alliances while others blame it on the hate that the Nigerian state has had against people of Igbo extraction. I would blame it on the unwillingness of Igbos to play politics the Nigerian way.

It has come a time that we need to forego the emotions of the civil war and solidarity with any group and play politics the way the Northerners play or atleast, go the route of the Yorubas. These people have mastered the idiosyncrasies that is Nigeria and have seized the moment to put themselves at a stage that will benefit them. It seems the Igbos are the only majority group that have failed and looking like a minority group by the day. Instead of deceiving ourselves by concocting spiritual alliances with a region known as the south-south or Niger Delta or whatever they want to call themselves these days, our alliances should face westwards and to the north. The people from the south-south are the most ungrateful humans ever to walk this part of the world. How can one explain that a group as big as the Igbo race put all their eggs in one basket for a man known as Goodluck Jonathan who wasn't even an Igbo man and as soon as he lost, his people started throwing abuses at us.

The first mistake you don't make in politics is to bring yourself down to align with minorities except it's for your own interest. It's high time we stopped being emotional and moved with the tide and align with satan if need be because contrary to what a lot of Igbos may think, we're no saints and nobody is looking for a saint in Nigeria. As long as you're crooked but appear friendly, people will respect you.

Guy you didnt have to throw in those jabs at the SS, it completely polluted your good write-up. In politics, there are no friends or enemies, there are only permanent interests, and to achieve these interests, allies are needed, as many allies as possible. Nobody is too big or too small to be an ally and no region is too far or too close or too 'different in ideology' to be an ally.

Once again in politics, no region owes any other region anything, be it gratitude or whatever. To achieve your interests, you need allies, and there has to be something tangible in the bag for the allies, else they dont owe anybody anything.

pchukwudi:
Few things:

1) We do not need any dumb alliance with any devil to make it.

2) Wake up to the fact that there is ZERO hope for this contraption as it is currently structured.

3) All round Self-assertion is the way to go for the Igbos.

4) It's time to isolate, assert and master. That's the key to self-sufficiency. China did it. Australia did it. Singapore did it. The Jews have been doing it forever. Bleep the Nigerian politics. This is a global village.

5) Harness your stregnths, entrench your idividuality, assert your self-sufficiency, and all will court your attention.

6) You cannot synergize interdependently with folks who think you are needy.

7) Bleep the local synergy. Prove ALL your mockers wrong FIRST. Succed WITHOUT their alliance. That's the way to go for the Igbos.

Beautifully presented. This is exactly what we need. A cultural revolution that will activate sustainable economic growth. Hasty Political Alliance will only entrenched their diabolical game of divide and rule further.

nku5:


Igbos have always TRIED their best to play politics the Nigerian way. The sad truth is we are seen as a threat by others no matter what.

The Igbos under Zik formed a large part of the NCNC which formed a coalition government with the dominant northerners under the NPC, what happened? The northerners hatred for Igbos and Dan Fodio's ambition to dip the koran in the sea tore the government apart and the north raised a traitor from the SW called Akintola to help realise that ambition. Akintola was a rabid bigot whose hate speeches against Igbos are on Youtube for all to hear. The north using Akintola set the SW ablaze and declared a state of emergency there. It led to civil war as we all know.

Fast forward to Jonathan and the Igbos choice to "put their eggs in one basket" whatever that means. When the APC was being formed did you see any Igbo person on the Board of Trustees? Despite the mumuish devotion of Ogbonnaya Onu and the mercenary antics of Rochas the only Igbo person for a while was a muslim Igbo lady who was married to a fulani man. Did you see any attempts by the rest of the country to show the Igbos what they stood to gain from aligning with the APC? What did we get if not threats and insults. The northerners were reminding us of 1966 while our yoruba neighbours were telling us that their culture was closer to northerners than to ours. Check NL between 2011-2015 and you will see this trend. We had no choice than to go with Jonathan who if we really check him, presented a breath of fresh air from the usually repulsive South-South politician. Jonathan embraced Igbos, winning their hearts and guess what? Northerners and Yorubas hated him for that with all their hearts.

They way I see it, the north will only use the Igbos to checkmate the Yorubas when the Yoruba ambition needs to be smashed (like this period) but they are natural allies in an unwritten turn by turn alliance. I personally have no more faith in this country. The only politics I am interested in is the one that will grant Igbos a restructured Nigeria or a seperate country.

All these because a Yoruba is at the helm. What happened to the times Igbo formed alliances with the north to rule Nigeria ? Did you see the Yoruba whine up n down. Like one person said imagine if it was the Igbo that lost Abiola n his mandate Nigeria will be undergoing another civil war by now. Stop the victim mentality, it is annoying.

Shawnnn01:


All these because a Yoruba is at the helm. What happened to the times Igbo formed alliances with the north to rule Nigeria ? Did you see the Yoruba whine up n down. Like one person said imagine if it was the Igbo that lost Abiola n his mandate we Nigeria will be undergoing another civil war by now. Stop tue victim mentality, it is annoying.

Where were you when the Yorubas attacked the Igbos vehemently on social platform after the loss of GEJ? Were you roosting when your PMB made the infamous 5% statement? .......... I can go on and on. The Igbos currently don't need any godamn alliance.

Nigerians have taught us a bitter lesson, in terms of universal suffrage; The Lagoon threat is still vivid in the picture, and if others of my tribe’s men should see in my prism, a return to regional/ethnic balance is what the entire Igbos need now. We will play it safe, at the regional level, by electing credible candidates who possess the character and quality, both intellectually and morally to represent us.....

Whoever mount the throne in Aso Rock, is meaningless, as long as underdevelopment and cultural crisis still persist in Igboland.
We cannot keep going on and on a circle and tag it political sophistication.

aribisala0:

There is no burden. You are small minded and petty .What is important to us is not who is what but what goes where. Quite a lot is coming to Lagos and the SW.in 20 years time Ogun State will be more important than Lagos, there will be another seaport in Ondo and so on.That is what we really care about not Osinbajo but regional economic integration to produce a dominant economic region centred on Lagos
That is how to prepare for secession not opening rogue radio stations

Who presidency epp?

GEJ whom you supported built rail lines to the north, what did you get

Baba I greet you. I don't know why I like u.

The bottomline is until the South can forge an alliance, Northern hegemony is what we have to adjust to. The SS generally distrust and dislike Igbos. As for the SW, for me, the dislike and suspicion is stronger on the Igbo side. Yorubas are for the most part indifferent and aren't nearly as bitter as Igbos are. But the tragedy is the division in the South is what has strengthened the North. A united South could have even further consolidated their power by reaching out to form alliances with the Middle Belt, who distrust the core North.

aribisala0:

I have always said you have a one track mind and cannot reason. You talk about hate for t the Eboes. If you are young then let me inform you. How long is 9 years in politics? That's exactly the length of time from1970 to 1979..The Nigeria Civil war ended in 1970 and in 1979 an Eboe man was VP and another was Speaker of the House of Representatives. Is that how a country treats people that it hates? In this same government what position did Yoruba Edo Ijaw Tiv hold?Are they not Nigerian's. You folk are very selfish and hateful that is why you project the hate in your minds on others until they get fed up and irritated. In Nigeria the Eboes have had a very good deal after the war.The main problem the Eboe man has is he thinks he is better than everyone and blames everyone but himself for his f
ailure always playing victim.Was it hatred when Anyim Soludo Iweala Akunyuli Ezekwesili were key players in OBASANJO'S government?
I
Between 1970 and 1979 Eboes produced two military governors of Lagos both appointed by Obasanjo yet you are hated. We're there no I jaws, Edos Efik, Idoma and others ?

When in 1993 a Yoruba man won election and it was annulled no one talked on HATRED? I wonder how the Eboes would respond to that. Stop the victim hood. You are not the only ones in Nigeria
Do not try to rewrite history, The Eboes have ALWAYS GONE INTO POLITICAL ALLIANCE WITH THE NORTH. 1960 1965 1979 and 1983 elections. You have ALWAYS DONE THIS. Nothing new. You did this as junior partners in alliance against the SW who NEVER called you betrayers. You lose out for once and cannot handle opposition. THE EBOES HAVE ONE ENEMY IN NIGERIA. Look in the mirror

Interesting post.

This thread has opened my eyes to the fact that there a lot of intelligent people on Nairaland.

Good write up Sir.

I am even impressed with some of the mature Eastern writers on this thread,who are not into the business of insults.

Afam4eva nice one too.

We can dialogue as brothers without killing each other.

They Jettisoned the PDP idea of rotational presidency between north and south so by 2015, the SE would have produced the president.

Stop talking nonsense. PDP nationally jettisoned the rotational presidency idea, Ndiigbo couldn't have influenced it, even if we wanted. GEJ won the PDP primaries by winning over the PDP delegates from the entire Six geopolitical zones of Nigeria. SE delegates alone couldn't have made GEJ the 2011 PDP presidential candidate.

Stop creating villain out of Ndiigbo.

Obi1kenobi:
The bottomline is until the South can forge an alliance, Northern hegemony is what we have to adjust to. The SS generally distrust and dislike Igbos. As for the SW, for me, the dislike and suspicion is stronger on the Igbo side. Yorubas are for the most part indifferent and aren't nearly as bitter as Igbos are. But the tragedy is the division in the South is what has strengthened the North. A united South could have even further consolidated their power by reaching out to form alliances with the Middle Belt, who distrust the core North.

A strategic thinker must get enough facts before forming opinions. The same reason no one can unite with Eboes is the same reason Eboes cannot unite with Eboes. The Eboe in my experience and interaction with him has one drive. TO BE THE FIRST. Many nonEboes who don't understand him resent him for that but that is how he relates to his fellow Eboes . I better pass my neighbour is an Eboe way of life. .
The Eboe man will accept 2nd position for money or power and they have always done this in Nigeria politics and that is why they have never been in opposition before now but that tells others they can be bought. Nnamdi Kana can and will be bought because every thing he is doing is about NNAMDI KANU

Obi1kenobi:
The bottomline is until the South can forge an alliance, Northern hegemony is what we have to adjust to. The SS generally distrust and dislike Igbos. As for the SW, for me, the dislike and suspicion is stronger on the Igbo side. Yorubas are for the most part indifferent and aren't nearly as bitter as Igbos are. But the tragedy is the division in the South is what has strengthened the North. A united South could have even further consolidated their power by reaching out to form alliances with the Middle Belt, who distrust the core North.

You need to read this. I won't be going round in limbo sharing blames n bitterness. The entire South is in a limbo as to how to usurp power from the north. We claim to have the brain and the numbers but lack the initiative to make it happen.

I see people proffering way forward not whining about things that are not redeemable which is what so many of you Igbos with limited foresight do daily forgetting that is not the solition to the problem. Bro act like you have something to contribute to this discuss. If you do not shut it n stop polluting the space, let those with the mental capability to move us all forward do the talk.

Read n learn. I have been following the thread without polluting it. I can see Nigerians with the mental capabilities to bring about change based on ideas discuss. They are discussing how to make a bad system work. How to drill what could be beneficial to you and I from this quagmire called Nigeria. They are not demanding goal post change like you expected. No one deserves any favour, people like you need to learn to work within a bad system and learn to make it work please.

blues20:

aribisala0:

A strategic thinker must get enough facts before forming opinions. The same reason no one can unite with Eboes is the same reason Eboes cannot unite with Eboes. The Eboe in my experience and interaction with him has one drive. TO BE THE FIRST. Many nonEboes who don't understand him resent him for that but that is how he relates to his fellow Eboes . I better pass my neighbour is an Eboe way of life. .
The Eboe man will accept 2nd position for money or power and they have always done this in Nigeria politics and that is why they have never been in opposition before now but that tells others they can be bought. Nnamdi Kana can and will be bought because every thing he is doing is about NNAMDI KANU

Stop these lies....
1999 We voted Obasanjo instead of Alex Ekwuemek, our own son.
2003, we still voted for Obasanjo, by passing other politicians from Eastern extraction
2007 we voted Yar 'Adua combo with Jonathan.
2011 we repeated the same feat.
2015, we did the same thing, regardless of the consequenses lots of us saw ahead of time.

How do this voting pattern translate to "I better pass my neigbor" according to you?

Going through your post, you're trying hard to be free from your usual tribal posts and position.... but please, don't peddle lies against us, as record is there to prove you wrong.

blues20:

Stop these lies....
1999 We voted Obasanjo instead of Alex Ekwuemek, our own son.
2003, we still voted for Obasanjo, by passing other politicians from Eastern extraction
2007 we voted Yar 'Adua combo with Jonathan.
2011 we repeated the same feat.
2015, we did the same thing, regardless of the consequenses lots of us saw ahead of time.

How do this voting pattern translate to "I better pass my neigbor" according to you?

Going through your post, you're trying hard to be free yourself from your usual tribal posts and position.... but please, don't peddle lies against, as record is there to prove you wrong.

Your greatest distinction is your lying and capacity for self deception.
Now you are trying to rewrite history. I will not even bother to respond to the self serving fiction that you have written

Shawnnn01:


You need to read this. I won't be going round in limbo sharing blames n bitterness. The entire South is in a limbo as to how to usurp power from the north. We claim to have the brain and the numbers but lack the initiative to make it happen.

I see people proffering way forward not whining about things that are not redeemable which is what so many of you Igbos with limited foresight do daily forgetting that is not the solition to the problem. Bro act like you have something to contribute to this discuss. If you do not shut it n stop polluting the space, let those with the mental capability to move us all forward do the talk.

Read n learn. I have been following the thread without polluting it. I can see Nigerians with the mental capabilities to bring about change based on ideas discuss. They are discussing how to make a bad system work. How to drill what could be beneficial to you and I from this quagmire called Nigeria. They are not demanding goal post change like you expected. No one deserves any favour, people like you need to learn to work within a bad system and learn to make it work please.

The usual victim game play. You made a point in regard to my ethnic group, and I responded to you accordingly. I possess the sole right to contribute to this discuss, as you are not, and I repeat the sole custodian of solution. As a Nwafor Igbo, I'm in tune to what ails my region. The solution I'm submitting here is unique, to the unique problem that is facing my people. not those hogwash that completely serves as a smoke screen to continue the never ending loop of underdevelopment and backwardness.

Please, save your sermon to yourself. You lack the capacity to engage me without resorting to insults and lies that is your hallmark.
I will not wish to engage you further, because that will be a total consumption of my precious time. Please, keep off my mention....else.

tinsel:
There is no tribe in Nigeria that hates the Igbos more than the South South. It was the only place an Igbo man failed to recover his property after the civil war.
In all the elections in Nigeria before this Jonathan' s election, they had voted in line with the North. We lost the civil war due to there sabotage.
Our problem is the Igbo youths. They don't read history.
A man from the North to me is far better than man from the south south. At least I can trust him especially in business.
In meetings everywhere during Jonathan I keep warning our people that the association with him will not earn us any thing. But they refused to hear.
Simply, we play bad politics.

thats fact

aribisala0:
Your greatest distinction is your lying and capacity for self deception.
Now you are trying to rewrite history. I will not even bother to respond to the self serving fiction that you have written

Just stop lying.

tinsel:
There is no tribe in Nigeria that hates the Igbos more than the South South. It was the only place an Igbo man failed to recover his property after the civil war.
In all the elections in Nigeria before this Jonathan' s election, they had voted in line with the North. We lost the civil war due to there sabotage.
Our problem is the Igbo youths. They don't read history.
A man from the North to me is far better than man from the south south. At least I can trust him especially in business.
In meetings everywhere during Jonathan I keep warning our people that the association with him will not earn us any thing. But they refused to hear.
Simply, we play bad politics.

What is S'S? How old are you? Stop mixing things up Today Delta and Edo are part of So called SS. but were not part of the Eastern Region.
Eboes must learn to take responsibility for their actions. In the Eastern region the Eboes sought to dominate everyone and pretended to the rest of Nigeria that Eastern Nigeria was an Eboes zone which unfortunately the North supported Zik because it allowed them suppress Northern minorities. Naturally the Eastern minorities resented this and took revenge when they could, no one taught them.
Instead of being conciliatory Eboes continue their aggressive bullying arrogant approach. The reality is the Eboes are a minority tribe in Nigeria and used the other Eastern minorities to project themselves as bigger than they really are

aribisala0:

What is S'S? How old are you? Stop mixing things up Today Delta and Edo are part of So called SS. but were not part of the Eastern Region.
Eboes must learn to take responsibility for their actions. In the Eastern region the Eboes sought to dominate everyone and pretended to the rest of Nigeria that Eastern Nigeria was an Eboes zone which unfortunately the North supported Zik because it allowed them suppress Northern minorities. Naturally the Eastern minorities resented this and took revenge when they could, no one taught them.
Instead of being conciliatory they continue their aggressive bullying arrogant approach. The reality is the Eboes are a minority tribe in Nigeria and used the other Eastern minorities to project themselves as bigger than they really are

This is exactly my point. You can never hide from your shadow. A tribalist will always remain a tribalist. See your life? Minorities indeed. Mr. Man, where are your statistics? Where are your numbers to back your claim? "The Devil is a liar and the father of all liars". Stop lying, it won't help your course.

How far your other moniker?

koropotopoto:

Nonsense trash
Stop talking Nonsense
e pain am well well

SuperS1Panther:


Asaba is part of Western Region and not Eastern Region.

We want Western Region back and Asaba will be part of it by fire by force.

Asaba was part of defunct western region and later, mid-western region. You can have western region less mid-western region back.

pchukwudi:
Few things:

1) We do not need any dumb alliance with any devil to make it.

2) Wake up to the fact that there is ZERO hope for this contraption as it is currently structured.

3) All round Self-assertion is the way to go for the Igbos.

4) It's time to isolate, assert and master. That's the key to self-sufficiency. China did it. Australia did it. Singapore did it. The Jews have been doing it forever. Bleep the Nigerian politics. This is a global village.

5) Harness your stregnths, entrench your idividuality, assert your self-sufficiency, and all will court your attention.

6) You cannot synergize interdependently with folks who think you are needy.

7) Bleep the local synergy. Prove ALL your mockers wrong FIRST. Succed WITHOUT their alliance. That's the way to go for the Igbos.

Beautiful.
You saved me the stress of having to dissect this Afam thread.
Afam, hope you learnt from this rational submission.