Everything we are going to discuss here will be according to kitab wa sunnah

Shirk is opposite of tawheed

Bidah amounts to shirk

Ahlu Bidah are those people that rejects quran teachings and hadith teachings and invent into islam themselves

lemme c wat u cal bidiah

AhluSunnah:
Bidah amounts to shirk

So what is Bid'ah, Mr Bid'ah specialist?
# Am seriously waiting for your shari'i definition of Bid'ah.

............ Watching in 3d

SURATUL SURA VERSE 21. . . .K

That verse depicts explanation of bida and its judgement. . that whatever you are doing as act of ibadah to ALLAH and ALLAH did not command it. . its bida.. u could see that ALLAH said ORISA, TAAGUT,(means idol)..u could also see the judgement.. surety of anguish punishment

Suratul Maidah verse 3. . ALLAH said HE has completed our religion (meaning anything that prophet muhammad did not use to worship ALLAH is bida, that anything that does not have proof in quran or hadith) and HE named our deen Islam... anybody that worships ALLAH with what rasul did not is not on islam nor is he a muslim.. and such person goes against this quran verse by rejecting it..whoever rejects quran verse is a kaafir.. He(ALLAH) MErcy is not going to be with such person.. harn

AhluSunnah:
That verse depicts explanation of bida and its judgement. . that whatever you are doing as act of ibadah to ALLAH and ALLAH did not command it. . its bida.. u could see that ALLAH said ORISA, TAAGUT,(means idol)..u could also see the judgement.. surety of anguish punishment

you still haven't answered our question.......

Aminu212:
you still haven't answered our question.......

The meaning of bida, its judgement and its end judgement is stated in the verses of quran i posted. if u dont understand, read it again. if u understood but u wana follow ur desire. . oyo lo wa

AhluSunnah:
The meaning of bida, its judgement and its end judgement is stated in the verses of quran i posted. if u dont understand, read it again. if u understood but u wana follow ur desire. . oyo lo wa

our question is simple. lets c the bidias

Aminu212:
our question is simple. lets c the bidias

U mean examples of bida abi

AhluSunnah:
Suratul Maidah verse 3. . ALLAH said HE has completed our religion (meaning anything that prophet muhammad did not use to worship ALLAH is bida, that anything that does not have proof in quran or hadith) and HE named our deen Islam... anybody that worships ALLAH with what rasul did not is not on islam nor is he a muslim.. and such person goes against this quran verse by rejecting it..whoever rejects quran verse is a kaafir.. He(ALLAH) MErcy is not going to be with such person.. harn

# Is that your definition of Bid'ah?


1. That, ANYTHING Nabi did not use to worship Allah, if anybody use(d) it, that's Bid'ah which is Kufr.

2. Anything that does not have proof in Quran and hadith

Those are the two explanation vis-à-vis definition you submitted.

Again, Is that your definition?

# I wish to put you to test in line with those definition.

AlBaqir:


# Is that your definition of Bid'ah?


1. That, ANYTHING Nabi did not use to worship Allah, if anybody use(d) it, that's Bid'ah which is Kufr.

2. Anything that does not have proof in Quran and hadith

Those are the two explanation vis-à-vis definition you submitted.

Again, Is that your definition?

# I wish to put you to test in line with those definition.

YES. . kafir to put a muslim in test? laughing. . your kufru is urz and my islam is mine

AhluSunnah:
YES. .

# So, let's start from where you ran away on your other miserable thread.

1. Nabi, salallahu alayhi wa ahli, propagate Islam by the command of his Lord. These are the methods our Nabi used:

1. He gathered people in the mosque, house, hall, open places and preached Islam

2. He wrote letters to people invited them to Islam

3. He sent emissaries and representatives to far and wide where they teach Islam according to the dictates of Quran and how and what Nabi taught them.

If according to your definition of Bid'ah, that is right, how do you come about using Internet in propagating Islam? Show us a single verse in the holy Qur'an or hadith where Nabi used internet or foretold that something called internet will come and you can use it?

2. Bilal through the dictate and command of Nabi used to go up the minaret and call adhan with a strong voice.

How do you come about using microphone and loudspeaker when there is no dalil for it in the Quran and hadith, and Nabi never foretold it?


3. It has been proven via several sahih ahadith that Nabi never placed his forehead upon rug, tiles, carpet in Sujood during his Salat. He only put his forehead on the natural ground/floor even on a muddy soil (e.g due to rain). He also has a small piece of palm fibre material (natural) to the size of his head where he formed sajdah on. Interestingly, Nabi had praying mat.

Today mosque of your terrorist master Jabata (along hajj camp in Ilorin), and other mosques are either carpeted, rugged or tiled where people placed their forehead on those synthetic materials.

Where's your dalil from the Quran and hadith? Did Nabi foretold that we can place our forehead on those synthetic materials if eventually come?


4. Today, your country of Kitab wa Sunnah, Saudi America have incorporated the use of Telescope instead of the conventional eyesight in sighting the moon for Islamic rites and festivities.

Where's the dalil in Kitab wa Sunnah?

More are still coming In sha Allah.

AhluSunnah:

kafir to put a muslim in test? laughing. . your kufru is urz and my islam is mine

# You can add that to the list of your regrets or achievement. Do not stylishly derail the topic

AhluSunnah:
Ahlu Bidah are those people that rejects quran teachings and hadith teachings and invent into islam themselves

# King of Saudi Arabia, his son the newly crowned prince together with his ruling royal families did the following:

1. They shake hands with Kufr women. This is against the hadith of Nabi where shaking hands with non-mahram woman is haram


2. They sought help from Kuffar, and signed agreement of £100-300 billion worth deal with Kuffar government for weapons and ammunition.


3. They gave the highest medal/honor of their Kitab wa Sunnah's land to the Kuffar.

2 and 3, Allah forbid making friends with the Kuffar and seeking help from them.

According to what you stated up there, has Saudi King, his newly appointed crown prince and other royal ruling members became Ahlu Bid'ah or Not?

This "Ahlusunnah" guy a k a deathstroke is underage prick. He should be going around with baby feeder still. He is not ripe enough

Empiree:
This "Ahlusunnah" guy a k a deathstroke is underage prick. He should be going around with baby feeder still. He is not ripe enough

IS PROPHET MUHAMMAD A SUFI? U MUST DIE A MUSLIM NOT A SUFI. SUFI IS NOT ISLAM. ITS DIFFERENT DEEN.GT

Lols @ Saudi America

AlBaqir:


# King of Saudi Arabia, his son the newly crowned prince together with his ruling royal families did the following:

1. They shake hands with Kufr women. This is against the hadith of Nabi where shaking hands with non-mahram woman is haram


2. They sought help from Kuffar, and signed agreement of £100-300 billion worth deal with Kuffar government for weapons and ammunition.


3. They gave the highest medal/honor of their Kitab wa Sunnah's land to the Kuffar.

2 and 3, Allah forbid making friends with the Kuffar and seeking help from them.

According to what you stated up there, has Saudi King, his newly appointed crown prince and other royal ruling members became Ahlu Bid'ah or Not?

Laughing hysterically.u bring kufar mentality into islam.ur imams or sufi sheiks or scholars or king do not have final say in islam nor can be used as example,ONLY QURAN,HADITH,PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND SAHABAHS=definition of practising islam

AlBaqir:


# King of Saudi Arabia, his son the newly crowned prince together with his ruling royal families did the following:

1. They shake hands with Kufr women. This is against the hadith of Nabi where shaking hands with non-mahram woman is haram


2. They sought help from Kuffar, and signed agreement of £100-300 billion worth deal with Kuffar government for weapons and ammunition.


3. They gave the highest medal/honor of their Kitab wa Sunnah's land to the Kuffar.

2 and 3, Allah forbid making friends with the Kuffar and seeking help from them.

According to what you stated up there, has Saudi King, his newly appointed crown prince and other royal ruling members became Ahlu Bid'ah or Not?

OLODO. shaking hands with women is a sin. therez a hadith where rasululah said its better to hold hot coal than to have hand shake woman

AlBaqir:


# King of Saudi Arabia, his son the newly crowned prince together with his ruling royal families did the following:

1. They shake hands with Kufr women. This is against the hadith of Nabi where shaking hands with non-mahram woman is haram


2. They sought help from Kuffar, and signed agreement of £100-300 billion worth deal with Kuffar government for weapons and ammunition.


3. They gave the highest medal/honor of their Kitab wa Sunnah's land to the Kuffar.

2 and 3, Allah forbid making friends with the Kuffar and seeking help from them.

According to what you stated up there, has Saudi King, his newly appointed crown prince and other royal ruling members became Ahlu Bid'ah or Not?

OLODO. Muslims can do business with kafir, can eat, live, do good, work with and many other things with kafir. . its only when it comes to islam that we must not allow them to compromise our religion. not all human being that lives in rasululah vicinity

AlBaqir:


# King of Saudi Arabia, his son the newly crowned prince together with his ruling royal families did the following:

1. They shake hands with Kufr women. This is against the hadith of Nabi where shaking hands with non-mahram woman is haram


2. They sought help from Kuffar, and signed agreement of £100-300 billion worth deal with Kuffar government for weapons and ammunition.


3. They gave the highest medal/honor of their Kitab wa Sunnah's land to the Kuffar.

2 and 3, Allah forbid making friends with the Kuffar and seeking help from them.

According to what you stated up there, has Saudi King, his newly appointed crown prince and other royal ruling members became Ahlu Bid'ah or Not?

Not all people who lives in rasululah era are muslims and business were conducted am0ng them..war vest of rasululah was a pact of business between him and a kafir. u know absolutely n0thing ab0ut islam.mixing bidah with sin..OLODO

AlBaqir:


# King of Saudi Arabia, his son the newly crowned prince together with his ruling royal families did the following:

1. They shake hands with Kufr women. This is against the hadith of Nabi where shaking hands with non-mahram woman is haram


2. They sought help from Kuffar, and signed agreement of £100-300 billion worth deal with Kuffar government for weapons and ammunition.


3. They gave the highest medal/honor of their Kitab wa Sunnah's land to the Kuffar.

2 and 3, Allah forbid making friends with the Kuffar and seeking help from them.

According to what you stated up there, has Saudi King, his newly appointed crown prince and other royal ruling members became Ahlu Bid'ah or Not?

Not only to be friends with them, we must not love them..seeking help from kafir?which kind help o..and quote the verse so i can explain to you what sahabahs understood it to be

AlBaqir:


# King of Saudi Arabia, his son the newly crowned prince together with his ruling royal families did the following:

1. They shake hands with Kufr women. This is against the hadith of Nabi where shaking hands with non-mahram woman is haram


2. They sought help from Kuffar, and signed agreement of £100-300 billion worth deal with Kuffar government for weapons and ammunition.


3. They gave the highest medal/honor of their Kitab wa Sunnah's land to the Kuffar.

2 and 3, Allah forbid making friends with the Kuffar and seeking help from them.

According to what you stated up there, has Saudi King, his newly appointed crown prince and other royal ruling members became Ahlu Bid'ah or Not?

Which land of honour and kitab wa sunnah given to kufar o. . . AHLU BIDAH ARE THOSE THAT WORSHIPS ALLAH WITH WHAT ALLAH DID NOT COMMAND THEM TO. AND SIN IS WHAT ALLAH TOLD US TO REFRAIN FROM. se o ti ye e..awon shia w0nt teach u islam,rubbish ni won ko e

Empiree:
This "Ahlusunnah" guy a k a deathstroke is underage prick. He should be going around with baby feeder still. He is not ripe enough

Really he still needs a baby feeder. Ask him one question, ìdàmú o si de baa. One sense, the guy no get and he wants to teach "Kitab wa Sunnah".


AhluSunnah, really no one can help you here. Ona e jin gannnnnnn.

AlBaqir:


2. They sought help from Kuffar, and signed agreement of £100-300 billion worth deal with Kuffar government for weapons and ammunition.

Does Islam allow shia to seek help from kuffar
1. Shias allied with the same US to FIGHT Saddam. When Shias are doing taqqiya they tell us anyone who says "la Ilaha illa Allah" is a Muslim. So they sided with US to FIGHT Saddam who was still saying "la Ilaha illa Allah"
2. Shias also sided with US to fight Taliban
3. Currently the bastion of Twelver Shia - Iran - has military pact with Russia and buys weapons from Russia. We know that Russians are kuffar too

Are you actually saying that it is haram to buy from the Kuffar?

BetaThings:


Does Islam allow shia to seek help from kuffar
1. Shias allied with the same US to FIGHT Saddam. When Shias are doing taqqiya they tell us anyone who says "la Ilaha illa Allah" is a Muslim. So they sided with US to FIGHT Saddam who was still saying "la Ilaha illa Allah"
2. Shias also sided with US to fight Taliban
3. Currently the bastion of Twelver Shia - Iran - has military pact with Russia and buys weapons from Russia. We know that Russians are kuffar too

Can you clarify these?

very funny you are Iran and Shia obsessed. Instead of you to defend Saudi America, you want to make analogy of wrong + wrong = good. Even if Iran or shia did bad, how's that justify Saudi's violation of what they claimed to believe in? Please put aside sentiment and bigotry, and think once.


# First, there is a big difference of ideology between Shia Iran and Wahabi Saudi. There are lots of things the Shia Iran allowed that Wahabi Saudi ruled Haram based on her ideology.


Surah Al-Maeda, Verse 51:

O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Ibn Kathir writes:

Allah forbids His believing servants from having Jews and Christians as friends, because they are the enemies of Islam and its people, may Allah curse them. Allah then states that they are friends of each other and He gives a warning threat to those who do this.

You can read the rest of the Salafi's tafsir on the verse here:
www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=767&Itemid=60

American government who by all standard represent Israeli government's interest and protect her in her atrocities against Islam and Muslim, and Trump especially have proven to be enemy of Islam, and a threat to Islam and Muslim. Any Muslim, be it individual or nation that make them friend, seek help from them has violate the above ayah.


According to Wahabi or Salafi ideology of any standard which Saudi government claimed to practice, making friend or seeking help from Kuffar and giving honor to them, is haram. Saudi continuously doing all these. Prove me otherwise if you disagree.

# Second, Russian government which Iran continuously work with has not come out to be enemy of Islam and Muslim, at least apparently.

AhluSunnah:
OLODO. Muslims can do business with kafir, can eat, live, do good, work with and many other things with kafir. . its only when it comes to islam that we must not allow them to compromise our religion. not all human being that lives in rasululah vicinity

Guy y d insult na......

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