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Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 3:16pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir:IF NOT THAT ORI E TI BLOCK,U SAID THAT BILAL DO MAKE ADHAN ON A MINARET which is true. minaret is outside the masjid. go read the hadith again.. and using microphone and speakers aint bidah.. and yes all bidah is kufru |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by AlBaqir(m): 3:20pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AhluSunnah: # Those ahadith are SAHIH. If you say otherwise, it is then your responsibility to prove to us how it is Daif. AhluSunnah: Which one is your master gangan Na? Terrorist amd liar Jabata or Criminal Abu Ibeji? |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by AlBaqir(m): 3:22pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AhluSunnah: # Okay, @underlined, Bilal used microphone and loudspeaker?! Or Nabi prophesied about microphone and loudspeaker?! |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Empiree: 4:55pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AhluSunnah:And whats my aqeeda? |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Empiree: 4:57pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir:Send him to Sheikh Akindele for aggressive ruqya. But unfortunately, Jabata said sheikh Akindele is keferi |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by AlBaqir(m): 5:20pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
Empiree: Jabata's criminal deputy in Ibadan, Abu Ibeji in his crazy lecture Rodu on genotype and family planning, claims "Sheik Akindele used to check one's palms to know his future". |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Empiree: 5:52pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir: |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by LadunaI(m): 6:39pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir: LMAO @ ekoogboona... I know you're always at home for this kind of things. Even though we are learning few things in between. It's NOT funny, and to be candid , this is territory I always ENJOYED you most. Thumb up. |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by AlBaqir(m): 7:32pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
LadunaI: Our fathers used to say (which is confirmed really), "ekoogboona se Ogun iba". On a more serious note, how do you wanna drink ekoogbona or hot custard with your " three fingers" in the name of "Kitab Wa Sunnah"? And how is using spoon to eat anything to do with me performing BID'AH vis-à-vis KUFR vis-à-vis hell fire? |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by LadunaI(m): 8:03pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir: That's is why there isn't any logical reason(s) of been too extreme about these things. EXTREMISM in the matter of religion will always brings one to the brinks of fold of KWAHRAJISM. The kwahrajis hold some of that similar extreme motive even to extent of questioning the authoriry of holy Prophet in some matters. Most of earlier SCHOLARS has been labeled and condemned because these extreme view of these people. And also, we witness the havoc the kwahrajis wreck against Imam Ali (ra). As much as WE NEED to constantly remind ourselves NOT to deviate from the SUNNAH of Rasuallah and eshew BIDIAH. So also we NEED to checkmate most of these outlandish, myopic and illogical definition of BIDIAH. May Allah(swt) forgive us, and guide us all (Amin). |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by AlBaqir(m): 8:19pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
LadunaI: # You are absolutely right. # I also believe 100% in the hadith which says, "ALL BID'AH are misguidance... ". It is the same "kullu (all)" used in the Qur'an, for example, "all (every) soul will taste death". Obviously, there is no exception here. Therefore, those that try to divide " BID'AH " do not have point whatsoever in my own view. However, like you rightly said, the main issue is the definition of BID'AH. # In this case, BID'AH in religion can never meant every tom, dick and harry issue like "using of spoon, fork, tasbiyu, etc" |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 8:42pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir: Ooooooh. I sha can't open your head and put explanation in it... Bida means to replace or add or deduct what is established in Islam... Shey o ti ye e |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 8:43pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir:olodo ni e.. Komeni don block your head |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 8:45pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir: Sarumi of all people... Bida master.... Sarumi wey no know where to get proof for Islam |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 8:47pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir: All bida is kufru.... Rasul said Kulu.. Kulu means Every .. Every never divides |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 8:51pm On Jul 13, 2017 |
AlBaqir: Ask olodo keferi komeni |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Kaytixy: 3:02pm On Jul 14, 2017 |
Pls I have questions for albaqir, I know that you are a Shia fine. I want to ask the following questions;1 do you believe just like other Shiathat Aisha(ra) committed adultry? 2. Do you also believe that abubakar, Umar, and uthman(ra) are all kufar and will go to hell just like other Shia believe? 3. Do you believe in the divinity of the hause hold of Ali (ra)? Etc etc etc. Please I really need you to answer this questions. Thanks very much. |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by AlBaqir(m): 3:53pm On Jul 14, 2017 |
Kaytixy: # Alright. Am an open book. Kaytixy: # First, what do you mean by "just like other shia"? Perhaps you meant, " just like SOME shia". Am I right? Because if you say, "all" shia have that believe, obviously you are no different to those who judge and condemn "all Muslim" by the deeds of Muslim terrorists. Imagine a fraction of 0.2% out of 1.6billion. # Second, right to your question. I (and 97% of Shia) do not believe Umm al-Mu'minin Aisha committed adultery. However, there is a vibrant shia group led by "sheik Yassir Habib", based in the UK and fully protected by the UK government, this small group firmly believe Aisha committed adultery. They preached it especially on their website and satellite TV. This group also have their tentacles in few other European countries (e.g Imam Tawhidi in Australia, he's also enjoying the protection of Australian government to the fullest). This group follows a Mar'ja, Ayatullah Sadiq Shirazi (Please note the name Sadiq Shirazi, not to mistaken it for other Shirazis). # Third, it is one thing to believe in something, it is another thing to prove it. This Yasiri group submitted all their evidences in the shia books of ahadith. Unfortunately, not only that those ahadith which they used are either "da'if (weak) or mawdoo (fabricated)" but also never ever mention adultery. They only want to cause fasad. Hence, my claim of UK, Australian government given them maximum protection. Why? Such a thing stir up continuously the rift between Shia and Sunni worldwide especially in the middle east where Western power have interest. # Fourth, a very good friend of mine have written a comprehensive book where he dissected all the evidences submitted by the Yasiris and exposed how worthless their evidences could be. He titled the book, "Aisha and the Yasiri slanders - defending the innocence of the Imams". # Fifth, the claim of Aisha committing adultery was actually started by some Munafiqun from among the Sahabah. Qur'an testified to this in surah Nur. Allah cleared her of the lies labeled upon her. In fact, Aisha herself in some ahadith in sahih Muslim/Bukhari named few of those sahabah. One of whom she mentioned was Zaid Ibn Thabit, the popular poet of the Prophet. Although, in other hadith she claimed he had repented. Lastly on this point, any other Shia apart from those Yasiris that have same view as them, is obviously born out of the same ignorance (following untenable evidences) or the usual hatred between Shia-Sunni. This is common in Pakistan. And that's one of the reasons the enmity between the Sunni and the Shia is at its peak. Funny enough, NO SUNNI, I repeat NO SUNNI can ever point out ONE authentic Shia hadith that accused Aisha of committing adultery. I dare anybody in the Sunni world. So, if any Sunni carry the news/propaganda, they only rely on the. satellite TV show of the Yasiris or books they wrote. Not that they have verify the authenticity of their claim in any reliable Shia books of hadith. # Attached are the preface of the book. In sha Allah, I will respond appropriately to other questions of yours.
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Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by AlBaqir(m): 6:16pm On Jul 14, 2017 |
Kaytixy: Kindly see reply here: www.nairaland.com/3919422/tariqa-shia-ahlusunna-etc-goto |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by submit: 9:51pm On Jul 14, 2017 |
Albaqir.... Thanks. Thanks. Thanks Jazakhallahu khairan |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by submit: 9:51pm On Jul 14, 2017 |
Albaqir.... Thanks. Thanks. Thanks Jazakhallahu khairan |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 11:24pm On Jul 14, 2017 |
So many lost soul . . alhamdulilah am a follower of sunnah. . |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Fundamentalist: 12:30pm On Jul 15, 2017 |
AhluSunnah: The truth is you are just trying to make yourself look pure ...... But you are full of proud talk ( arrogance ) . "There are three things that destroys a human being ; miserliness , following of desires and arrogance (when you see yourself better than others ) - silsilatul ahadeeth as- sahihah hadith no 1804. A very good example was iblees in the qur'an when he said " I am better than him (adam) " . The examples are just too many in the qur' an and from authentic narration. I just wonder the kind of brains jabata dullards have . The hausa's say " mai fariya wawa " 1 Like |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 12:44pm On Jul 15, 2017 |
Fundamentalist:You have serious problem. am thanking ALLAH for keeping me on straight path u say its arrogance. . ofcourse i am better than kafir..and they can be better in practising islam if they leave their bida.. u just wana start argument on meaningless issue.. thats ur problem.. |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Fundamentalist: 2:14pm On Jul 15, 2017 |
AhluSunnah: You arrogance knows no bound ...... |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 5:56pm On Jul 15, 2017 |
Fundamentalist:Laughing.. oga. . y u dislike me. . say truth. . jewo..abeg... 5ike |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Fundamentalist: 9:39pm On Jul 15, 2017 |
AhluSunnah: i dislike hipocracy, |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Nobody: 3:35am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Fundamentalist:ME TOO |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Kaytixy: 8:39am On Jul 16, 2017 |
Ok still observing[b][/b] |
Re: Shirk Bida And Ahlu Bidah by Kaytixy: 8:40am On Jul 16, 2017 |
[b][/b]ok still observing |
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