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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:30am On Nov 27, 2014
The Nigerian military will not be making any significant purchases for the foreseeable future.

A.U.S.T.E.R.I.T.Y.

http://leadership.ng/business/391875/naira-devaluation-will-lead-high-cost-production-ops

Naira Devaluation Will Lead To High Cost Of Production – OPS

Olushola Bello
— Nov 27, 2014 |

Following the measures taken by Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) to strengthen the nation’s economy, the Organized Private Sector (OPS) have said that this would push up the operating cost of business enterprises in the Nigerian economy.

Among other measures put in place, the CBN devalued the national currency by N13 from N155 to $1 to N168 to the $1, moved the benchmark interest rate known as the Monetary Policy Rate (MPR) by 100 basis point from 12 per cent to 13 per cent and increased private sector’s Cash Reserve Ratio (CRR) from 15 per cent to 20 per cent.

Others include widening the band around the mid-point by 200 basis points from +/-3 percent to + -5 percent as well as retained the foreign exchange trading position at one percent.

Reacting to these measures by CBN, the president of Lagos Chamber of Commerce and Industry (LCCI), Remi Bello said, “As a result of the import dependent character of the economy the increase in the MPR will push up the operating cost of enterprises in the economy.”

He pointed out that many firms were already feeling the heat across all sectors, remarking that, “in the few weeks, the naira exchange rate has depreciated by about 11 per cent in the interbank market and over 12 per cent in the parallel market. The impact of the depreciation on operating costs is very profound.”

Bello noted that cost push inflation would be pronounced in the next few months as this would be driven by high cost of production and high cost of imported finished goods.

Also speaking, former acting director- general of Manufacturer Association of Nigeria (MAN), Rasheed Adegbenro noted, “Generally when you devalue your currency, the intention is to reduce import and facilitate export. But unfortunately, the Nigerian economy does not have the productive edge to facilitate export. So, it means that it will decrease import, which cannot be decreased and so the effect will be inflationary. It will lead to inflation in the economy.”

However, he noted that in this present situation the government has only two options, to increase the fuel pump or increase the MPC, adding that the government will not want to increase the fuel pump because of the forthcoming general elections.

Adegbenro pointed out that “this tells the government that the economy is not well structured and has to be in the future to absorb such reoccurrence, saying that the measures are going to hurt both the business and manufacturing sectors of the economy.”

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 9:30am On Nov 27, 2014
EVarn:
havent we trashed this already.i've lectured you so many times that our F7 jets can discharge a barrage of missiles enough to pulverize south african into a cornflakes republic.

You're clearly trolling.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 9:37am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


No jet fighter in South African air force can discharge missiles.

If Gripens and Hawks were toys then that would be taken to consideration.

The Nigerian Air Force lost 3 aircrafts in one month

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 9:43am On Nov 27, 2014
The Nigerian F-7 is older than my mother...

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 9:54am On Nov 27, 2014
ActivateKruger:
The Nigerian F-7 is older than my mother...

:"grin

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:55am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


@THIZA has posted photos of ordinary gun armed Ratels with NO missiles, most of the photos in the world prove that SANDF has mostly gun armed Ratels, we see that from free internet photos. SANDF website simply used the best photo to represent other Ratels, and to close the case finally, your own respected South African source Defenceweb says you have ONLY about 50 Ratel ZT-3, even a fool will laugh at you, or you want to tell us defenceweb posted fraudulent numbers of Ratel ZT-3 ?

Butt Hurt grin grin




Like DENEL manufactured Mokopa missile which SANDF refused to order because the missile is useless. LOL grin grin
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Nope, the G6-45 has range of 54km.

The Mokopa will get into service when funds become available, this might be soon as the missile is chosen by an unnamed customer.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:57am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


BMP-2 ATGM has longer range than Ratel's Ingwe, Fool !
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Nigeria doesn't have the missile.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:59am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


I have done that many times here since last year and even @Andrewza won't challenge me again on that radar, so let @Patches post his own source of ATR-42 radar range, if he has the courage to do it !
The source you posted didn't say anything about the aircraft's radar range.

Name the radar on your ATR-42 and provide a source.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:02am On Nov 27, 2014
Thiza:
SANDF LIVING CONDITION CANT BE COMPARE WITH NAIRA

The third picture looks more like 3SAI mess in Kimberley.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:03am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


BMP-2 will use ordinary 30mm cannon to wreck your Ratel before after using smoke dispensers to waste your laser guided Ingwes.

The missile on BMP-2 has longer range than Ingwe missile on Ratel
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60mm mortar with range of 4km.

81mm with a range of around 4km-7km. Dependent of ammo.

90mm gunm

Ingwe missile range: 5km.

20mm high velocity cannon.

Arm the Ratel. The SANDF deploys groups.

Nigeria has no missiles.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:05am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


ATR-42 radios your precise GPS coordinates to artillery and you are near your expiry date already.
The Super Lynx has laser range finder, data links, radar.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:15am On Nov 27, 2014
MikeCZAR:
The Super Lynx has laser range finder, data links, radar.


Don't forget the FLIR. And it is cleared to use the mokape ATGM.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:15am On Nov 27, 2014
ActivateKruger:

You're clearly trolling.
WTF?!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:23am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:






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NAF air chief confirms :

Our F-7NI fighter jets doing wonderfully in regular combat action till today.

Our Beechcraft 350ER ISTAR power aircraft are in war zone action all the time needed.

"Speaking further, the officer explained that but for the air attacks, “our troops would have suffered untold casualties, but that was prevented; instead, it was our troops that were killing those who resisted arrest, while most of them either fled or surrendered. There is the A-Jet and F-7 fighter aircraft for air cover and ground attacks. They also made use of the powerful M-24/35 attack helicopters for tactical and ground attacks. That was how we were able to rout them from their camps.”

Speaking in the same vein, a very senior officer of the Nigerian Air Force attributed the victory recorded by the troops to the sophisticated Jet fighters that are being used in the ongoing counter-insurgency operations coupled with the patriotism, courage and the professionalism of the NAF officers.

“We have a set of well-trained officers whose sense of patriotism and dedication to duty is never in doubt. Not only that, the Chief of Air Staff (Air Marshal Adesola Amosu) released all the needed fighter jets to us.

“There are C-130H and G-222 for airlift of troops and logistics, DO-228 for medical evacuation and light transport. ATR 42 and Beach craft mounted with cameras for surveillance and reconnaissance. There is the A-Jet and F-7 fighter aircraft for air cover and ground attack. Finally, we have the dreaded M-24/35 attack helicopters for tactical and ground attack. All these are employed one time or the other as the need arises”.


http://leadership.ng/news/386202/air-force-stopped-boko-haram-konduga

NAF F-7 jet in photo below shows sign of regular heavy cannon fire against enemy targets, when last did SAAF fire anything against a real live enemy that has ZSU-23-4 deadly 7km max range anti-aircraft guns ? SAAF is a paper toy tiger ! NAF is the new k.iller 2014 ! Heroes of Konduga battle ! Ride on African masters with 1,148 combat sorties in just 2 months !
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You really do not understand my question. If the F7s were capable of discharging both PGMs and Missile why would they go an seek cheaper alternative jets that can launch PGMs. I mean, if the F7s had that potential, do you think your military would have been in this pressing need of acquiring cheap low cost jets? Do you think that they are just making a joke?

So, in that case, I would comfortably assume that your F7s are then dead, when the owner is scattered afield to look out for small puppies that can help him to fight the enermy is his yard when the bull dog is just lying on the ground. What kind of bull dog is that? Shame!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:25am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


BMP-2 Hull and Turret both have protection against 23mm cannon so it CANNOT be penetrated.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_russian_army_light_armoured_vehicle_uk/bmp-2_ifv_tracked_armoured_infantry_fighting_vehicle_data_sheet_specifications_pictures_video.html

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Your own links say that it only has side protection against 7.62

It's not even worth making a big deal when I bust you for fraud, it's so conman that it is a given
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:54am On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


BMP-2 ATGM has longer range than Ratel's Ingwe, Fool !
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Don't try to play smart stupidd. The malyutka (ATGM) missile which many of them are currently out of service has a range of 3000m as compared to ingwe which has a range of 5000m.



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M14_Malyutka
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 10:59am On Nov 27, 2014
SANDF SPECIAL FORCES

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:06am On Nov 27, 2014
SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL TASK FORCE OF THE POLICE

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:08am On Nov 27, 2014
andrewza:


Don't forget the FLIR. And it is cleared to use the mokape ATGM.
Yes, the Algerians are said to be procuring the Mokopa to use on their Super Lynxes. This will cut the cost for SAAF, when they buy the missile.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 12:32pm On Nov 27, 2014
Reutech delivering Land Rogue turrets for Malaysia

Reutech’s Land Rogue remote controlled weapons stations are being delivered to Malaysia after recently passing factory acceptance trials. Reutech is supplying 54 Land Rogues to Denel Land Systems (DLS), which will be used by the Malaysian Army.

The contract for a range of different turrets was awarded to Denel Land Systems via Malaysia’s Deftech, with Reutech Solutions being subcontracted for the 12.7 mm remote controlled weapons station turrets.

Reutech said since receiving the contract, Denel Land Systems requested a few changes on behalf of the Malaysian Army, with changes to the human machine interface so it matches that of other Denel turrets; the installation of the same electro-optical sights as other Denel turrets and the installation of 76 mm smoke grenade launchers. After these changes were made, Reutech requalified the turret, culminating in successful factory acceptance tests and shooting trials witnessed by DLS and the end user.

Delivery of the first production units has now started and production is expected to run over a three year period.

The Land Rogues supplied by Reutech are armed with 12.7 mm Browning M2 machineguns. The Sea Rogue is service with South African Navy and the UAE Coast Guard.

The Land Rogue turret is part of a larger turret order from the Malaysian Army for its AV8 8x8 vehicles. In July 2012 it was announced that Malaysia had signed a 343 million euro (R3.5 billion) contract for turrets and weapons. This includes 69 x two man turrets fitted with the South African GI30 30mm main gun and 54 x missile turrets equipped with the GI30 30mm gun and Denel Dynamics Ingwe anti-tank missile system. The order also includes the supply of 216 laser-guided Ingwe missiles and 54 x remote control weapons systems. Similar turrets are being fitted to the South African Army’s new Badger infantry fighting vehicle – the Malaysian contract would not have been possible without Badger.

Malaysia has ordered 257 FNSS/Deftech AV-8 8x8 armoured vehicles, to be manufactured by Deftech of Malaysia.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:02pm On Nov 27, 2014
patches689:


During the fighting in Afghanistan and Chechnya, hits by rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) penetrated the BMP-1's armor in 95% of cases. This often resulted in the vehicle burning until the ammunition exploded.[35] Due to these limitations, Soviet/Russian soldiers customarily rode on the outside of the BMP, sitting on top of the hull while in combat zones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMP-1




Wasted post 100% Irrelevant, Nigeria does not hve BMP-1 you posted like a dullard.

We have BMP-2 and they are NOT the same....Olodo Domingo of Gauteng !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:05pm On Nov 27, 2014
patches689:


So, lets get this straight, you are saying:

- an IFV which is used in such a manner that infantry ride on top (without armor protection) is not a bad thing


You have said this thing many times, now I will shove it back in your face....

Show us photo of Russian army BMP-2 with infantry riding on top intead of inside in a war zone !

Show us !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:07pm On Nov 27, 2014
patches689:


Nope ATR-42 has no target designation equipment

Define target acquisition and name one of it's equipment.

Let's see how informed you are cheesy
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:14pm On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


Wasted post 100% Irrelevant, Nigeria does not hve BMP-1 you posted like a dullard.

We have BMP-2 and they are NOT the same....Olodo Domingo of Gauteng !

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You dont have the BMP-2 either

Olodo Domingo

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 1:14pm On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:

Define target acquisition and name one of it's equipment.
Let's see how informed you are cheesy

"Target designation", he said. Come, Augubugubububu
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:15pm On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


You have said this thing many times, now I will shove it back in your face....

Show us photo of Russian army BMP-2 with infantry riding on top intead of inside in a war zone !

Show us !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:25pm On Nov 27, 2014
patches689:


Wonderful, you fell into my trap to set, but you have lies to tell.

So now you have changed your story and agree that military websites are not the final source of information?

You have NO trap.

SANDF army official website NEVER claimed to have 1,000 Ratel ZT-3

There are hundreds of photos of Ratel showing most as gun armed NOT ZT-3 missile armed, so many Ratel versions, how many photos will the army ppst on webpage? Ten photos of one vehicle with different guns?

It is easy to just write one sentence "V-LAP 73km shell" after the 39km Base Bleed without overflowing the page with data, your army did NOT write it because they DON'T have it.

Defenseweb did NOT report that SANDF has it, NO source EVER says SANDF has it, ALL sources say it exists in DENEL test laboratory, one shell of V-LAP, one piece used for experiment, and no longer existing, no longer produced.

The Indian army officially displayed and declared they have Bofors FH-77B with 42km range, show us where South African army displayed and declared that they have V-LAP shell 73km range, we see or hear NONE !!

NOT mentioned as purchased NOT mentioned as still existing NOT mentioned as sold to any user, ONLY mentioned in a test laboratory.

#Show Us Photo of the V-LAP 73km shell in Existence with SANDF tongue tongue

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:28pm On Nov 27, 2014
patches689:


You said European Militaries were desperate for it. Where does it say that?


Switzerland Europe. USA North America. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Malaysia etc world oil rich countries with air forces better than SAAF all want the Scorpion jet.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:33pm On Nov 27, 2014
agaugust:


Switzerland Europe. USA North America. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Malaysia etc world oil rich countries with air forces better than SAAF all want the Scorpion jet.


Scorpion jets are a waste of time.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:33pm On Nov 27, 2014
patches689:


Nope 90% of the F-7 is the same as a Mig-21

The title of the artical says it all

The widely exported F-7 was nothing more than a Chinese licence production copy of the Soviet Era Mig-21 Fishbed
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=1052

Your link is of 1980s F-7 jet. NAF, PAF, SAF, BAF are flying 2010 F-7 jets with 4the generation radar and missiles.

The SAAF Hawk jet of 2006 is the same as the Hawk jet of 1974, so SAAF flies an obsolete Hawk jet. Equation balanced
cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:37pm On Nov 27, 2014
patches689:


Good for you, but we want total air-hours

LOL....the sorties were flown without hours, it was in seconds and minutes. LOL.

1,148 combat sorties in 2 months....is equal to 1,148 minutes abi? LOL. Domingo Durango

NAF is showing you gold sorties, you are asking for bronze hours.

SAAF has ZERO combat sorties in 20 years, SAAF is a DEAD air force become VIP transporters cheesy cheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:39pm On Nov 27, 2014
patches689:


SAAF only bought a few as we are going to be using the A-darter which goes into production next year. So from next year we will have an unlimited supply of missiles.


NAF only bought F-7 jets as temporary measure while we are hunting for a 4th generation jet fighter, so from next year 4th generation jets will be flying for NAF. Equation balanced.

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