mzilakazi:


The total budget of 6billion for security for the first time in the history of Nigeria's existence. Nigeria's defence budget is comprehensive of the police and other security agencies as well. SA police get the budget of 10 billion dollar.

6 billion for defence. Additional 2 billion approved by the President, GEJ for additional defence procurements.

patches689:


26 - 12 = what?

You didnt read my post about how terrible the Junk Fighter is? The one written by a Pakistani?

I only know and care about the fact, the JF-17 is better than the Gripen you fly. This is a fact.

You only have 12 operational Gripens.

mzilakazi:



Bwahahaha...... your wish is my command. All SAAF gripens are flown on rotational basis.



http://www.combataircraft.com/en/News/2013/09/10/SAAF-says-Gripens-being-rotated,-not-stored/


I don't why do you continue to ridicule yourself in this manner because deep down the truth speaks for itself. Gripen is a more stealth fighter than JF-17 and will only ravage the rotor parts of a Chinese machine should we put the two in a dog fight comparison.

You know that is not true. They are in storage. This talk about rotation is just to save face.

Nothing is been rotated.

Gripen C/D isn't better than the JF-17. Fact.

what's this I'm hearing from sa dummies on this thread about gripen

jf17 thunder Block-II fighters are the 4.5 Generation variant equipped with AESA radars, improved ECM suites, and IRST systems. Also believed to incorporate greater use of composite materials for reducing airframe weight, radar absorbing material, and a WS-10B thrust vectoring (TVC) engine. and all block 1s will be upgraded ..

mzilakazi:


You must rather be examplary and prove to us that SAAF has only 8 pilots in total.

I know you only got 8. The onus is on you to prove you have more than 8 pilots for 26 jets.

JF-17 block 1 versus Gripen C/D

Block II which we are getting is way ahead of the Gripen.

Henry120:


I know you only got 8. The onus is on you to prove you have more than 8 pilots for 26 jets.

Brother your statement is not objective and rather should be condemned as being subjective and void. As for the onus, I really do not owe you any assignment to prove to you that SAAF has more than 8 pilots. Let it rest with you to substantiate your assertions.

mzilakazi:


Brother your statement is not objective and rather should be condemned as being subjective and void. As for the onus, I really do not owe you any assignment to prove to you that SAAF has more than 8 pilots. Let it rest with you to substantiate your assertions.

It still doesn't change the fact you only got 8 pilots for 26 jets. You just can't prove you got more.

Henry120:
JF-17 block 1 versus Gripen C/D

Block II which we are getting is way ahead of the Gripen.

JF-17 is a toy and does not have a stamina. All the JF-17s from Mkl to III none of them will ever match gripen JAS not even SU-30. It is like you are matching Cherry with BMW, all of them might be cars and take you anywhere but they do not perform the same on the road.

mzilakazi:


JF-17 is a toy and does not have a stamina. All the JF-17s from Mkl to III none of them will ever match gripen JAS not even SU-30.

As you can see, the toy is better than the Gripen.

mzilakazi:


JF-17 is a toy and does not have a stamina. All the JF-17s from Mkl to III none of them will ever match gripen JAS not even SU-30.

The next time you mention the SU-30 and Gripen C/D in the same statement, i'd give you a dirty E-Slap.

Henry120:


As you can see, the toy is better than the Gripen.

Cherry (JF-17) vs BMW (gripen). They are all cars and can take you to any destination but their performance on the road is not the same. They are also not on the same league, one is a low cost vehicle and the other is a high performing expensive car.

Henry120:


The next time you mention the SU-30 and Gripen C/D in the same statement, i'd you a dirty E-Slap.

Gripen as in current is the best fighter in the world. It is the best choice of fighter by many experts including the NATO.

mzilakazi:




Cherry (JF-17) vs BMW (gripen). They are all cars and can take you to any destination but their performance on the road is not the same. They are also not on the same league, one is a low cost vehicle and the other is a high performing expensive car.

Only difference been, the Specs of this cherry are significantly better than the BMW.

mzilakazi:


Gripen as in current is the best fighter in the world. It is the best choice of fighter by many experts including the NATO.

Whatever you say........clown.

@Henry- Your JF-17 is on the same league with Scorpion jets. Same price tag and also they uncategorized. They are meant to meet the needs of those whose pockets are not too deep.

1 Gripen= 10 JF-17s.

EVarn:
mumu! mumu! mumu! mumu! mumu! mumu! mumu! mumu! mumu! mumu!!!!,what are you doing wasting data to spout dust,instead of fighting ebola in liberia or preaching paradise to fellow saffers.please which navy trained the american navy?,have you forgotten the argentina island brouhaha?,a few warships....

If the Argentinians were better trained and their equipment well maintained.

The T209 submarine would've devastated the R navy.

Remember the R navy had to ask Uncle sam for torpedoes as they almost depleted their stocks.

The R navy isn't powerful like it used to be.

mzilakazi:


Gripen as in current is the best fighter in the world. It is the best choice of fighter by many experts including the NATO.

you're sick

agaugust:


40 nuclear weapons for Nigeria
40 HIV free 18 year old South African virgin black-white-coloured girls as Xmas gift for me Augustine.
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see oga Agaugust i think we need to put this gun and uniform business to a decisive rest.

iterator24:
you're sick

Are you sure that all your screws are tight upstairs?

mzilakazi:


You really do not understand that there are some of the weapon system which will really not adapt well with gripen as a platform. The integration of some weapons might possibly interfere with the effective operation of the fighters' software and thus causing the overall malfunctioning. However, the A-Darter has been found out to be the perfect compatible AAM for gripen fighters. Mr stillchriss, you just have to understand that the gripen system is very complex and is not just another system from SU-30, JF-17 or a J7 system.

it's funny how you saffers always have excuses whenever your weaknesses are exposed.

you bought an expensive hardware you need permission to fully use.
did you know that just like our uncoming OPVs we can use whatever avionics we want on the jets?

una dey vex sha.

Henry120:


You have only 8 pilots. Fact.

The 18 you keep parading about are crew members not pilots. 18 Gripen crew members have been trained.

Prove you got 18 pilots?

Nigeria has 3 pilots.

Prove you have more.

Henry120:


The JF-17 is a better fighter than the Gripen you fly.


Nope only 12 are operational, the rest, just too broke to maintain. I did read the Mexicans made you an offer for the remainder, how's that coming along.

Plus, you only got 8 pilots.

The junk fighter-17 isn't even close to the Gripen.

They're rotated to reduce maintenance costs.

Plus, you only got 3 pilots.

Henry120:


JF-17 block 1 versus Gripen C/D

Block II which we are getting is way ahead of the Gripen.

The South Africans are in a state of shock by NAF's 40 units of brand new JF-17 Thunders 4th generation jet fighters.

I have been silent on the issue because of the dramatic comedy I am having with @Patches who says ATR-42 MP is different form ATR-42MP and that there are 3 different types of radars on ATR-42 with different ranges

The same Same South Africans who were boasting here that they are very sure Nigeria will not by any 4th generation jet fighter and the Scorpion jet is all Nigeria will buy.

They said NAF chief of staff inside cockpit of JF-17 Thunder is just like the Kenyan air force chief that was 'test driving' F-16

When the fish brain Southies write rubbish, they forget that when the truth bursts out tomorrow, they will be embarrassed

Reason why I always tell Patches that crime does not pay at the end of the day

Now NAF is gonna have almost 100 combat jet fighters...F-7, Alpha, MBB-339, L-39 Albatross, JF-17...NAF will have the biggest combat air force in Africa after Egypt.

Anyway, SAAF Gripen jet is now old, a new version is coming up, the Southie Gripen is 1998 version with old radar and avionics

JF-17 Thunder is a 2012 jet fighter with latest radar and avionic technology.

NAF beats SAAF in numbers and technology.

The usual story of "It's old and outdated" has become the new trademark of South African military

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AugustineAgain:


The South Africans are in a state of shock by NAF JF-17 Thunders.

I have been silent on the issue because of the dramatic comedy I am having with @Patches who says ATR-42 MP is different form ATR-42MP and that there are 3 different types of radars on ATR-42 with different ranges

The same Same South Africans who were boasting here that they are very sure Nigeria will not by any 4th generation jet fighter and the Scorpion jet is all Nigeria will buy.

They said NAF chief of staff inside cockpit of JF-17 Thunder is just like the Kenyan air force chief that was 'test driving' F-16

When the fish brain Southies write rubbish, they forget that when the truth bursts out tomorrow, they will be embarrassed

Reason why I always tell Patches that crime does not pay at the end of the day

Now NAF is gonna have almost 100 combat jet fighters...F-7, Alpha, MBB-339, L-39 Albatross, JF-17...NAF will have the biggest combat air force in Africa after Egypt.

Anyway, SAAF Gripen jet is now old, a new version is coming up, the Southie Gripen is 1998 version with old radar and avionics

JF-17 Thunder is a 2012 jet fighter with latest radar and avionic technology.

NAF beats SAAF in numbers and technology.

The usual story of "It's old and outdated" has become the new trademark of South African military

.

Your opinion.

MikeCZAR:

Your opinion.

Truth hurts. You Southies got a full dose of JF-17 Thunder humiliation syrup from Naijas
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AugustineAgain:


Truth hurts. You Southies got a full dose of JF-17 Thunder humiliation syrup from Naijas
.

Nope.

The JF-17 is trash, oh scratch that I meant snail.

MikeCZAR:
If the Argentinians were better trained and their equipment well maintained.
The T209 submarine would've devastated the R navy.
Remember the R navy had to ask Uncle sam for torpedoes as they almost depleted their stocks.
The R navy isn't powerful like it used to be.

*scoffs*,and i've got a brazilian rainforest stuck between my two front teeth.isnt there a difference between being "well trained" and being "more equipped"?.everyone knows that the RN has fallen into disrepair in terms of military equipments,i was talking in terms of training,the RN takes the cream cake in that aspect.mike "ebola" czar,dont they teach you how to read in seminary school?

AugustineAgain:



The South Africans are in a state of shock by NAF's 40 units of brand new JF-17 Thunders 4th generation jet fighters.

I have been silent on the issue because of the dramatic comedy I am having with @Patches who says ATR-42 MP is different form ATR-42MP and that there are 3 different types of radars on ATR-42 with different ranges

The same Same South Africans who were boasting here that they are very sure Nigeria will not by any 4th generation jet fighter and the Scorpion jet is all Nigeria will buy.

They said NAF chief of staff inside cockpit of JF-17 Thunder is just like the Kenyan air force chief that was 'test driving' F-16

When the fish brain Southies write rubbish, they forget that when the truth bursts out tomorrow, they will be embarrassed

Reason why I always tell Patches that crime does not pay at the end of the day

Now NAF is gonna have almost 100 combat jet fighters...F-7, Alpha, MBB-339, L-39 Albatross, JF-17...NAF will have the biggest combat air force in Africa after Egypt.

Anyway, SAAF Gripen jet is now old, a new version is coming up, the Southie Gripen is 1998 version with old radar and avionics

JF-17 Thunder is a 2012 jet fighter with latest radar and avionic technology.

NAF beats SAAF in numbers and technology.

The usual story of "It's old and outdated" has become the new trademark of South African military

.

Lmao.

MikeCZAR:
Nope.

The JF-17 is trash, oh scratch that I meant snail.

Truth hurts.

The Specs show your Gripen are useless when compared to the JF-17 thunder.

26 Gripens, 10 years, only 8 pilots. Pathetic!!!

Henry120:


Prove you got more than 8 pilots.

If only 14 planes are in the air at any one time, we then have a minimum of 14 pilots

Now, where does it say we only have 8 pilots?

Henry120:


I only know and care about the fact, the JF-17 is better than the Gripen you fly. This is a fact.

You only have 12 operational Gripens.

-Chinese who are known for their self reliance first and quality next, are further downgrading JF-17s capabilities with their poorly copy-pirated avionics.
-Its spine, & wings bearing resemblance(in wing twist & wing area) to a fighter which china knows inside out, the J-7, doesn’t have wing twist nor does it have enough area to provide a low wing loading
-Its performance during low speeds and high alphas would be very dangerous for the pilot indeed
-It has a Maximum G loading of only 8
-Its thrust to weight ratio is another negative point. the mentioned thrust can only be used during take-off where the Air is denser, and also only during emergency situations since it would seriously lower the engine’s lifespan.
-The next Achilles heal is JF-17’s speed. For a good interception, speed is an important criteria. However JF-17’s max speed is Mach 1.6


So why is Pakistan still inducting more and more of this fighter, which its critics increasingly call it Junk Fighter – 17 ? The answer may lie with Pakistan’s recent trauma & its psyche. Having sanctioned by the U.S, the star of their airforce, the F-16s were severally hit by lack of spares and most of the time grounded. The other 2 sources to procure modern Aircraft- Russia, have been sealed off due to the legacy of Soviet era friendship, current market in India & India’s pressure- and the other source, the European Union, for their extremely high costs
http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/fighterplanes/texts/articles/jf-17.html

Junk fighter-17 impresses no one, not even the people of Pakistan

Only 12 Gripen are in rotation

26 - 12 = ??

Its sad that you have resorted to childish trolling