agaugust:


Funny how this forum has changed, go back to pages 1 to 15 and see how South Africans said ALL Nigerian weapons are inferior because they are 20 year old technology from AK-47 to Palmaria artillery.

Now when 20 year old South African technology is brought up on page 1800 they say technology has not changed in 20 years

G-6 Rhino is 20 years old and obsolescent.....deal with it....or go buy Bofors Archer !
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How is it obsolete?

Why is it obsolete?

agaugust:


[size=13pt]"The subsequent intervention of 3,000 French troops ended the Libyan successes and led to a de facto division of the country, with Libya maintaining control of all the territory north of the sixteenth parallel. Under an agreement for mutual withdrawal from Chad, French troops withdrew by early November 1984, but the Libyans secretly dispersed and hid their units."

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/chad.htm

• CASE CLOSED •[/size]

[size=25pt]Toyota war was 2 years AFTER 1984[/size]

agaugust:


T-72 and Olifant tanks are 2nd generation obsolescent tanks.

You need a dictionary, find out the difference between my choice of words, Obsolete is different from Obsolescent.

How is it obsolete?

How is it obsolescent?

agaugust:


I quoted sources for everything I said, web links, photos, videos, etc. If you don't agree with those sources which I did NOT create, then hack into those sources websites and delete their data from internet.

Simple

No - you quoted no such information, or else, I wouldent be able to proudly proclaim you a liar.

And the few sources you did provide (Rooikat) were debunked - yet you continued to repeat the info you knew was wrong - making you a liar.

End of story

agaugust:


[size=15pt]France NEVER withdraws military presence from Chad, they have permanent army and air force garrison in Chad.

The story says both France and Libya withdrew extra the battlefield forces from Chad, NOT that the France closed down it's permanent military bases in Chad. France NEVER withdraws it's permanent military garrison from Chad, the French military permanently lives and resides inside Chad.

Fool
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[size=20pt]" French troops withdrew by early November 1984"[/size]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/chad.htm

[size=20pt]READ YOUR OWN SOURCES TO AVOID HUMILIATING YOURSELF[/size]

[size=15pt]Badger deal is now recorded in SIPRI

Finland
L: South Africa 238 AMV IFV 2013 ZAR8.8 b ($1.2 b) 'Hoefyster' programme (incl 222 produced in South Africa with up to 70% of vehicle incl turrets produced in South Africa); most IFV version; South African designation Badger; delivery 2015-2022

GAME OVER [/size]

lezz:
you really love to read your own write-up, even though they are pointless. You can entertain yourself with your hallucination.

with your own conclusion,to me you remain a Nigerian,do you know what does that mean?You deserve not to be considered or recognized...your artificial muscles are not visible

agaugust:


Funny how this forum has changed, go back to pages 1 to 15 and see how South Africans said ALL Nigerian weapons are inferior because they are 20 year old technology from AK-47 to Palmaria artillery.

Now when 20 year old South African technology is brought up on page 1800 they say technology has not changed in 20 years

G-6 Rhino is 20 years old and obsolescent.....deal with it....or go buy Bofors Archer !
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The SANDF uses the G6-45 with a range of 55km.

The newer G6-52L has range of 67km and able to reach 73km with V-LAP.

If it obsolete how about your Palmaria? 30 years old?

Patchesagain:
[size=15pt]Badger deal is now recorded in SIPRI

Finland
L: South Africa 238 AMV IFV 2013 ZAR8.8 b ($1.2 b) 'Hoefyster' programme (incl 222 produced in South Africa with up to 70% of vehicle incl turrets produced in South Africa); most IFV version; South African designation Badger; delivery 2015-2022

GAME OVER [/size]

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Fool

Those data have been posted there on SIPRI over one year ago 2013 !

SIPRI says SANDF has 238 Badger IFVs, yet you have only 6 which you have admitted as correct number only 6 units NOT 238 units

Also, SIPRI says 222 of those Badgers were PRODUCED (PAST TENSE IN ENGLISH MEANS DONE) in South Africa, yet NO SINGLE BADGER was ever produced in South Africa, talk less of a whole 222 units.

SIPRI information is ALL WRONG, only 6 Badgers paid for and delivered by Finland as produced in Finland .

Almost every South African information in this world has some fraud in it's manipulated deceitful content, you even feed the world with false information like you did to SIPRI .....thieves and crook control your Rainbow nation of fraudsters.

GAME STILL ON !
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Patchesagain:
[size=15pt]Badger deal is now recorded in SIPRI

Finland
L: South Africa 238 AMV IFV 2013 ZAR8.8 b ($1.2 b) 'Hoefyster' programme (incl 222 produced in South Africa with up to 70% of vehicle incl turrets produced in South Africa); most IFV version; South African designation Badger; delivery 2015-2022

GAME OVER [/size]

This is the finish haul with the SA turret.

The SA made prototypes are different from this one.

Command capability.
Missile capability.
Gun capability.
Mortar capability.

Patchesagain:


[size=25pt]Toyota war was 2 years AFTER 1984[/size]

[size=25pt]France's world power military force was in Chad in 1984 and still operates there today 2015 on a permanent Defence Pact Agreement.

Mumu
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Chad does it again, much to the shame of Nigeria.


DIKWA - A black and white Boko Haram flag still flutters on top of a deserted villa in the Nigerian town of Dikwa, overlooking a courtyard filled with dirty mattresses and charred vehicles.

Inside the villa’s pink and white walls, blood trickled into corridors and a pile of insurgents’ bodies lay in a heap in a wardrobe.

The scene was the result of a dawn attack by troops from neighbouring Chad, who are driving deep into Nigerian territory in an offensive aimed at helping end a six-year insurgency that has killed thousands and now sucking in neighbouring armies.

“They resisted ferociously. This huge villa was their command centre,” a Chadian soldier who fought in the battle told a Reuters reporter visiting the town after fighting subsided.


Colonel Azem Bermandoa, a Chad army spokesman, said more than 100 of the militants died in the battle for Dikwa, a town at a major crossroad some 80 km east of Maiduguri, the capital of Nigeria’s northeastern Borno state.

“They came to hide here as we advanced,” another Chadian soldier said, pointing to the bodies in the wardrobe.

In an apparent last act of defiance, a Boko Haram suicide bomber climbed into a truck carrying gas canisters and blew it up, killing one Chadian soldier and injuring 34.

Bermandoa said Chadian troops chased the remaining fighters about 15 km out of the town, where many walls are now sprayed with bullets and most houses lie deserted.

In this part of Nigeria until now, Boko Haram’s heartland residents have learned to flee the Sunni militants’ bid to carve out an Islamic caliphate.

But the tide finally appears to be turning against them as Chad has spearheaded a regional push against the group and Nigerian forces notch up some military gains as well.

Chad’s victory at Dikwa is one that Nigeria would have like to have called its own. Its army chief previously said his soldiers listed Dikwa as a town that troops wanted to recapture before elections, due to have been held in February but pushed back to March due to insecurity.

Chadian forces had planned to take the town last month, but were ordered back by Nigeria, which said it planned to attack it. But a Chadian soldier in Dikwa said the closest Nigerian soldiers got to the town during Monday’s fighting was 50 km away.

Chad’s army, considered one of the best in the region and backed by a strong air force, first deployed to help Cameroon fend off Boko Haram and is now pressing southwest into Nigerian territory after capturing the border town of Gambaru last month.

That victory starved Boko Haram militants of supplies, said Ryan Cummings, chief Africa analyst at crisis management group Red24.

“The major challenge that the Nigerian army faced was that Dikwa served as forward base for Boko Haram and was readily being supplied with resources and combatants from Boko Haram positions along the Nigeria-Cameroon border,” he said.

But despite these recent setbacks, Boko Haram has proven it is still able to carry out isolated attacks.

Two security sources said Boko Haram attacked Kaiga on Lake Chad at the weekend. They arrived in canoes and burned houses, but it was not immediately possible to confirm a number of casualties.

Cummings added that losing key towns did not necessarily mean the end of Boko Haram, which long before beginning to control territory, waged a guerrilla war involving raids and car bombing.

“Even if the combined forces are successful in dislodging Boko Haram from its regional strongholds, this may not bring about regional stability,” he said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/03/us-nigeria-violence-chad-idUSKBN0LZ2NS20150303

Nigerian aircrafts conducted 4 airstrikes in Madagali,2 in Geima in the last 24 hours.
[Source:DHQ,twitter]

lezz:
It's a west African thing. You wouldn't know.

Yes and i dont care either!

Patchesagain:


[size=20pt]" French troops withdrew by early November 1984"[/size]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/chad.htm

[size=20pt]READ YOUR OWN SOURCES TO AVOID HUMILIATING YOURSELF[/size]

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The French troops that withdrew came back again to rejoin the French troops that stayed behind as permanent base forces of France in Chad.

They came back because Libya did not truly withdraw.

" Libya's failure to honor its commitment to remove its troops followed by a Libyan air attack across 16° north latitude in February 1986, triggered a new French deployment, Operation Epervier. "

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-2377.html

You don't know war history beyond the little part that I tell you...Fool

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agaugust:


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Fool

Those data have been posted there on SIPRI over one year ago 2013 !

SIPRI says SANDF has 238 Badger IFVs, yet you have only 6 which you have admitted as correct number only 6 units NOT 238 units

Also, SIPRI says 222 of those Badgers were PRODUCED (PAST TENSE IN ENGLISH MEANS DONE) in South Africa, yet NO SINGLE BADGER was ever produced in South Africa, talk less of a whole 222 units.

SIPRI information is ALL WRONG, only 6 Badgers paid for and delivered by Finland as produced in Finland .

Almost every South African information in this world has some fraud in it's manipulated deceitful content, you even feed the world with false information like you did to SIPRI .....thieves and crook control your Rainbow nation of fraudsters.

GAME STILL ON !
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Monkey agaugust, sipri is never wrong.

MikeCZAR:
This is the finish haul with the SA turret.

The SA made prototypes are different from this one.

Command capability.
Missile capability.
Gun capability.
Mortar capability.

[size=16pt]No single Badger IFV has EVER being produced in South Africa. You got only 6 experimental Badgers all made in Finland. You wanna fool Nigerians? You will sweat tired
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Boko haram employs the use of sophisticated technology,including remote control bombs,to battle regional armies.
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http://m.news24.com/nigeria/National/News/boko-haram-remote-control-bomb-kills-two-Niger-soldiers-20150304-4
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Hundreds of civilians died in Dikwa despite chad's purported 'recapture' of the town.
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http://m.news24.com/nigeria/National/News/Chad-recaptures-Nigerian-town-20140304

agaugust:


[size=16pt]No single Badger IFV has EVER being produced in South Africa. You got only 6 experimental Badgers all made in Finland. You wanna fool Nigerians? You w ill sweat tired
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Your head is supposed to be aching monkey. So, tell us how did they get SA made turrets, from missile launchers, motars, etc.

EVarn:
Boko haram employs the use of sophisticated technology,including remote control bombs,to battle regional armies.
.
http://m.news24.com/nigeria/National/News/boko-haram-remote-control-bomb-kills-two-Niger-soldiers-20150304-4
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Hundreds of civilians died in Dikwa despite chad's purported 'recapture' of the town.
.
http://m.news24.com/nigeria/National/News/Chad-recaptures-Nigerian-town-20140304

Look at this sadist id1ot celebrating the death of his own people to spite Chad.

The capture of Dikwa is not purported. It happened and the bodies of the insurgents are piled inside their own command centre.

DieVluit:


Look at this sadist id1ot celebrating the death of his own people to spite Chad.

The capture of Dikwa is not purported. It happened and the bodies of the insurgents are piled inside their own command centre.

I am not celebrating the unfortunate death of my country men in the north,do you see me celebrating?
I was simply stating a baffling phenomenon where chadian troops allow hundreds of innocent civilians to get killed by terrorists while claiming to liberate the community,what did chad really liberate?,the people or the territory?.what is the point of liberating a town when you indirectly killed half of the people there?.we liberated mubi,a town as big as half of johannesburg,yet not even one civilian died in the confrontation!
We have been assured that chad will recieve appropriate response for violating the abuja military accord,except if their operation in Dikwa was in context with the ongoing CT Ops in the north east and thus officially licensed.

FighterPilot:



Your head is supposed to be aching monkey. So, tell us how did they get SA made turrets, from missile launchers, motars, etc.

Those SA parts were all shipped to Finland as components to be fixed in Finland. The Badger IFV assembly plant is NOT yet existing in South Africa....or you make Badger IFV in your own personal house? Mumu
.

agaugust:


[size=16pt]No single Badger IFV has EVER being produced in South Africa. You got only 6 experimental Badgers all made in Finland. You wanna fool Nigerians? You will sweat tired
.[/size]

Proof please.

All prototypes were produced and are being tested in SA.

Where's Nigeria? Rusty third hand IFVs?

FighterPilot:


Monkey agaugust, sipri is never wrong.

Beegeagle helped SIPRI correct their mistakes several times on African weapons data....so keep quiet you fighter pilot half yellow man, beast of no nation
.

agaugust:


Those SA parts were all shipped to Finland as components to be fixed in Finland. The Badger IFV assembly plant is NOT yet existing in South Africa....or you make Badger IFV in your own personal house? Mumu
.

Building prototypes doesn't require industrialisation.

Similar to how Denel has produced A-Darter prototypes before industrialisation.

Similar to how SA produced the RG41 IFV before industrialisation.

Indeed there's no cure for stup.id..ity.

agaugust:


Beegeagle helped SIPRI correct their mistakes several times on African weapons data....so keep quiet you fighter pilot half yellow man, beast of no nation
.

Bumble bee did what now?

MikeCZAR:
Proof please.

All prototypes were produced and are being tested in SA.

Where's Nigeria? Rusty third hand IFVs?

Nigeria produces Igirigi in Nigeria, not imported from Finland.

South African sources from DENEL say contract terms demand the first bath of many dozens of Badgers will be manufactured in Finland and imported by South Africa, Finland eats the Badger production money, you buy from Finland...hurts your pride ....sorry o ....Finland owns Badger, you borrow from them
.

agaugust:


Nigeria produces Igirigi in Nigeria, not imported from Finland.

South African sources from DENEL say the first bath of many dozens of Badgers will be manufactured in Finland and imported by South Africa....hurts your pride ....sorry o
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That's part of the deal, a finish vehicle is used for the development.

South Africa produces:

RG31.
RG32.
Mamba.
Reva.
Marauder.
Mountain lion.
Casspir 2000.
And more!

What's irirffhdhgei again?

MikeCZAR:
Building prototypes doesn't require industrialisation.

Similar to how Denel has produced A-Darter prototypes before industrialisation.

Similar to how SA produced the RG41 IFV before industrialisation.

Indeed there's no cure for stup.id..ity.

Yes no cure for South African's genetic, endemic, and epidemic Stupiidity, go read the Badger IFV contract terms signed by DENEL and Finland based patent holder, Finland owns you like their white Dutch brothers own South Africa
.

MikeCZAR:
That's part of the deal, a finish vehicle is used for the development.

South Africa produces:

RG31.
RG32.
Mamba.
Reva.
Marauder.
Mountain lion.
Casspir 2000.
And more!

What's irirffhdhgei again?

All inferior to the Finland owned Badger
.

EVarn:
I am not celebrating the unfortunate death of my country men in the north,do you see me celebrating?
I was simply stating a baffling phenomenon where chadian troops allow hundreds of innocent civilians to get killed by terrorists while claiming to liberate the community,what did chad really liberate?,the people or the territory?.what is the point of liberating a town when you indirectly killed half of the people there?.we liberated mubi,a town as big as half of johannesburg,yet not even one civilian died in the confrontation!
We have been assured that chad will recieve appropriate response for violating the abuja military accord,except if their operation in Dikwa was in context with the ongoing CT Ops in the north east and thus officially licensed.

You are.

The point of liberating a town is that BH is now gone and will not be coming back.

The deaths do not change that, unless you are a sadist.

You had five years and counting of insurgency that you failed to stop. Thousands died and millions were displaced.

agaugust:


Yes no cure for South African's genetic, endemic, and epidemic Stupiidity, go read the Badger IFV contract terms signed by DENEL and Finland based patent holder, Finland owns you like their white Dutch brothers own South Africa
.

Prototypes aren't part of the production standard vehicles.

This vehicles are used for tests whatever final standard, Finland contributed by bringing their vehicle to be used as a base for the development. Meaning Denel will have to sign a contract for the technology of that test platform.

Production vehicles after OT&E will be different from the prototypes. The final vehicle is different from the test platform.

SA supplied Finland with missiles produced in SA, does that mean we own them? NO.

Almost all your equipment is of foreign origin, does that mean Nigeria is owned Russia, China etc?

Mike..ZA: Educating Nigerians since day one!