Project Biro coming along smoothly

With seven new hulls coming its way over the next five to six years, the SA Navy is keeping its cards close to the chest on personnel requirements for the new acquisitions.

Armscor will start evaluating tenders for a new hydrographic vessel to replace the ageing SAS Protea at the end of next month. June 30 is also still currently the closing date for tenders for three offshore and three inshore patrol vessels for the maritime arm of service of the SA National Defence Force (SANDF).

-Defenceweb

It seems our dates were wrong, June 30 is closing date for the tenders - announcement of the winner will come later in the year

patches689:


Judging by the hundreds of posts you nigerians have made about it

You care quite deeply about our Rooivalk

Your Half-French AH is obsolete, archaic and loaded with computers that are 30 years behind what is currently available!!!

We feel so much pity for you South-Africans!!

patches689:
Project Biro coming along smoothly

With seven new hulls coming its way over the next five to six years, the SA Navy is keeping its cards close to the chest on personnel requirements for the new acquisitions.

Armscor will start evaluating tenders for a new hydrographic vessel to replace the ageing SAS Protea at the end of next month. June 30 is also still currently the closing date for tenders for three offshore and three inshore patrol vessels for the maritime arm of service of the SA National Defence Force (SANDF).

-Defenceweb

It seems our dates were wrong, June 30 is closing date for the tenders - announcement of the winner will come later in the year

Project Biro
Calculate 23 years + 6 years = ?

Henry120:


Your Half-French AH is obsolete, archaic and loaded with computers that are 30 years behind what is currently available!!!

We feel so much pity for you South-Africans!!

Rooivalk Specifications:

Thales TopOwl Helmets
- A Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE).
- TopOwl incorporates an integrated measurement system for directing an articulated weapon such as the cannon, or air-to-air missile seeker heads (look to kill capabilities).

Electronic Warfare
- Rooivalk's electronic warfare suite is the fully integrated helicopter electronic warfare self-protection suite (HEWSPS)
- incorporates: radar warning, laser warning and countermeasures dispensing system.
- The system is flight-line programmable and in-flight adaptable to match the threat library with the mission's area of operation.
-radar warner features low-effective radiated power (ERP) / pulse Doppler radar detection beyond radar detection range, ultra broadband frequency coverage, high pulse density handling and internal instantaneous frequency measurement.
- laser warner provides broadband laser frequency coverage to detect and display rangefinding, designating and missile guidance laser threats.
- the countermeasures dispensing system, which is operated in manual, semi-automatic or fully automatic mode, is charged with chaff and flare cartridges.

TDATS (Target detection, acquisition and tracking)

- The TDATS sight is equipped with a low-level television sensor
- Forward-looking infrared (FLIR)
- autotracker
- laser rangefinder
-laser designator.

Navigation
- Doppler radar velocity sensor
- Thales Avionics eight-channel global positioning system
- heading sensor unit and an air data unit.

Communication
- two VHF/UHF transceivers with FM, AM with digital speech processing
- one HF radio with frequency hopping
- secure voice and data channels
- and an IFF transponder.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

1. Show us which of these existed 30 years ago

2. Show us which of these features your Hind has

Henry120:


Project Biro
Calculate 23 years + 6 years = ?

South African Navy, aquisitions in 29 years:

4 Frigates - Brand new, most advanced in Africa (sans the FREMM)
3 Subs - Brand new, most advanced in Africa
4 Frigate Sized OPV's - Brand new
3 IPV's - Brand new
1 Hydrographic vessel - brand new
1 Supply and Support Vessel - brand new, biggest ship built in Africa
1 Strike craft - Brand new
Dare to compare

Simon's Town Naval Base today. Pics by Doug

Henry120:

Project Biro Calculate 23 years + 6 years = ?

= obsolete biro

patches689:

Judging by the hundreds of posts you nigerians have made about it
You care quite deeply about our Rooivalk

what i care about is the hind. Ol trusty war chariot

AugustineAgain:


Fool, show us the interior of the ship, or the hull and deck is 100% of a ship, like your head and skull is 100% complete with no brain inside.

Foolish boy . LOL.

This guy does not know when to smartly sneak out of a trap he set for himself by just avoiding the argument, and pretending he did not even know there was any argument, instead he prolongs it like a fool trapping himself more and more.

Are these the people that will rule South Africa in future? Then Burundi will then overtake SA in next generation.

Its funny how you call me a fool, when you say dUm sh1t like this.

So tell me, does that ship look only 30% complete to you? As you can see the hull is 100% finished, the gun has already been fitted, radar and antenna mast have already been installed, landing deck looks basically complete, so please please tell me, what will Nigeria be building?

AugustineAgain:


Quote where I said Nigerian OPVs WERE or WILL be towed to Lagos.

I pity the school that admitted you to spoil their academic ranking.

Dude you said at least one of your opvs will be towed to Nigeria, because the control room according to you wasn't/isn't completed yet.

patches689:


1. Allmost no African nations can afford the Rooivalk, those that can are allready deep in the pockets of the Americans (Egypt) or Russia (algeria/Morocco)

2. The Rooivalk was never developed for export - it was developed for the SAAF, export was just a potential side-effect

3. Or really? the Chinese Z-10 is operated by... China alone with a tiny order from Pakistan, the Indian HAL is operated by... India alone

Facts are that it is simply too expensive for any non-aligned African nation to aquire and operate, Nigeria included. Furthermore, since it was not designed as an export product it is meaningless to constantly discuss sales as some form of yard-stick by which to measure the bird.

Patrick, nobody would pay $40 million for an obsolete Helicopter like the South-African AH. This is an indisputable fact. Not even the South-African government can afford them, hence their order dropped from 32 to only 12.


1. Given the Half-french AH, MI-28N, Apache and MI-35M. Countries in Africa would pick the MI-28N,MI-35m, Apache over the Half-french because they are proven Helicopters, with guaranteed availability of spares, and from trusted partners. It is basic common sense.

Even in Africa, your Half-french AH which the SAAF cannot even afford, would come out second best every time.


2. The AH was built to fill the requirements of the SADF, and as well as for exports. As a result of the inability of the South-African government to meet it's financial targets, orders were drastically cut for the AH, and funding cut.

- The decision to export the AH is as vital a requirement as the SAAF fielding them. If this isn't the case, it would not have been rejected by the 5+ countries it was offered to.

3. The Z-10, China currently operates 60+ in service, not 12. Pakistan was gifted 3 examples from China, and currently has an order for 20 units.

- the Indian HAL LCH is still under-development. When it enters service, India would order over 180 examples, and South-Africa is been touted as a possible export customer.

- The T-129, Turkey has currently an order for 91 units, again not 12. With Nigeria, Bahrain and Azerbaijan showing strong interests in the AH. Infact Nigeria is in the process of acquiring a couple units.



At 40 million a unit, nobody, not even the SAAF is willing to pay that much for a sub-standard Helicopter.

- The AH was designed to also be exported, exports is a very vital yardstick in determining the viability of the AH. Since nobody wants the AH, it is safe to conclude that the half-french is a failed French/South-African experiment.


Like i always say........... that the truth hurts your feelings doesn't mean it's inaccurate.

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[size=20pt]South Africa bribed FIFA $10 million to host 2010 World Cup[/size]

Arrests now made in Sweden as requested by USA, world level corruption championed by South Africa.

I wonder how this Southies don't get ranked correctly in corruption index, Gripen jet bribe, this bribe, that bribe, FIFA world cup bribe, wow !

Hope South Africa is not bribing those who rank global corruption to keep them off the top level.

Rotten 3rd world South Africa.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/may/27/fifa-officials-arrested-on-corruption-charges-live
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patches689:


And yet again you have shifted the argument

Warrior class has a 4000 mile range, your Type 056 has only a 2000 mile range

Warrior class outranges your OPV

Lol

Bwahahahaha .LOL.

@Patches is does not know naval warfare, he thinks Type 056 frigate 1,300 tons ship has the same range with Nigeria's long endurance OPV of 1,800 tons. LOL....an OPV of same size as a frigate will have longer range because they are built for long patrol. The 2,000 mile is for light frigate, the OPV version for Thailands navy is 3,500 nautical mile range.

Yet Nigeria's F-91 NNS Centenary is far bigger, we have 1,800 tons not the 1,300 ton of Thailand that has range 3,500 nautical miles.

Nigerian OPV range is far far and far far far beyond range of your Soweto tiny tea-pot floating on bath tub water Warrior Class Strike craft MPV that you are falsely calling OPV.

Look at this dude comparing an ancient rust metal tin can SAN 1970s gunboat with a NN 2014 stealth OPV that all full digital navionics, you don't know how many billion dollars Nigeria invested in patrol forces at sea? It's our navy's strength and your navy's weakness.

Now stop this hilarious and humiliating comparison so your national pride does not get hurt in Pretoria, only Nigerian navy can use one warship to sail around Africa on one fuel tank without stopping to refuel on the way. We rule Africa in naval range.
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patches689:



Rooivalk Specifications:

Thales TopOwl Helmets
- A Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE).
- TopOwl incorporates an integrated measurement system for directing an articulated weapon such as the cannon, or air-to-air missile seeker heads (look to kill capabilities).

Electronic Warfare
- Rooivalk's electronic warfare suite is the fully integrated helicopter electronic warfare self-protection suite (HEWSPS)
- incorporates: radar warning, laser warning and countermeasures dispensing system.
- The system is flight-line programmable and in-flight adaptable to match the threat library with the mission's area of operation.
-radar warner features low-effective radiated power (ERP) / pulse Doppler radar detection beyond radar detection range, ultra broadband frequency coverage, high pulse density handling and internal instantaneous frequency measurement.
- laser warner provides broadband laser frequency coverage to detect and display rangefinding, designating and missile guidance laser threats.
- the countermeasures dispensing system, which is operated in manual, semi-automatic or fully automatic mode, is charged with chaff and flare cartridges.

TDATS (Target detection, acquisition and tracking)

- The TDATS sight is equipped with a low-level television sensor
- Forward-looking infrared (FLIR)
- autotracker
- laser rangefinder
-laser designator.

Navigation
- Doppler radar velocity sensor
- Thales Avionics eight-channel global positioning system
- heading sensor unit and an air data unit.

Communication
- two VHF/UHF transceivers with FM, AM with digital speech processing
- one HF radio with frequency hopping
- secure voice and data channels
- and an IFF transponder.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

1. Show us which of these existed 30 years ago

2. Show us which of these features your Hind has

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[size=20pt]Rooivalk Remains 30 Years Obsolete.

Fake Upgrades :[/size]

There is NO PROOF that the Rooivalk computers or avionics were upgraded as proposed. No proof the money was release, no proof the job was done.

The only certain upgrade was to add ability to use Mokopa missile which was never ordered into service.

Next job was the over-heating cannon that was cooled from overheating, repaired, not upgraded. ZERO technology advancement. Same old gun

Rooivalk remains 30 years obsolete....even Rwanda won't buy it !


"Denel Aviation finally handed over five new Rooivalk Mark 1 combat helicopters to the South African Air Force on 1 April 2011, after years of development, building and testing.

The new Rooivalk Mk.1 is not much different to its old predecessor , the AH-2 Rooivalk.

The cannons which used to be a bother on the older Rooivalk by overheating very quickly and preventing rapid and sustained fire, have now been fixed.

The chief of the South African Air Force General Carlo Gagiano said, “ What is new is the Mokopa missile , which was test-fired at the Overberg range a long time ago and we had some very good results.”

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2011-04-04-rooivalk-the-next-generation-mark-1/#.VWZ7hvlVhBd

"The investment comes despite the helicopter's builder, Denel, questioning the viability of the 23-year-old project. The rotorcraft's cockpit reflects an avionics and computer processing power system that is now two decades old.

They are divided on whether the project is worth the effort. Some sources say it amounts to throwing good money after bad and paying for a Porsche to do a CitiGolf's job."

http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5449&catid=96:defence-and-aerospace-technology


Rooivalk remains a 30 year obsolete attack helicopter.

CASE CLOSED
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CC. Agaugust.

patches689:


Yet we have shown bomb falls at around 100kmph

Shilka cannot target something as small as a bomb without smart munitions

No - 16 roland launchers with 2 missiles (16X2 = 32). That means that they can easily by overwhelmed by saturation attack

SANDF CRAM is entering service as we speak

Case was never open - you were talking sh1t as usual

Shilka has 4 barrels and are radar guided to pin point target, even if the target is speeding 1,000 km/h like Hawk jet.

SANDF does NOT have any CRAM anti-missile defence as at today 2015, the project is slowed down by lack of funds, and the target date of 2017 will be further delayed.

SANDF has NO SINGLE CRAM defence today. FACT !

Nigeria has 16 Roland launchers, 2 missiles load each, 8 more missiles inside cabin with rapid automatic reload in 10 seconds.

10 missiles x 16 launchers = 160 missiles.....SAAF will die in seconds
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patches689:


That is a hind taking off

SAAF does NOE all the time

Again, look at the hind specifications - is NOE listed?

NAF Hind doing NOE!!!

The only evidence available is a Nigerian Hind doing a very low altitude flight course, none from the SAAF.



while you are at it, Point out the dust to show the Helicopter is lifting up?

patches689:


Rooivalk Specifications:

Thales TopOwl Helmets
- A Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE).
- TopOwl incorporates an integrated measurement system for directing an articulated weapon such as the cannon, or air-to-air missile seeker heads (look to kill capabilities).

Electronic Warfare
- Rooivalk's electronic warfare suite is the fully integrated helicopter electronic warfare self-protection suite (HEWSPS)
- incorporates: radar warning, laser warning and countermeasures dispensing system.
- The system is flight-line programmable and in-flight adaptable to match the threat library with the mission's area of operation.
-radar warner features low-effective radiated power (ERP) / pulse Doppler radar detection beyond radar detection range, ultra broadband frequency coverage, high pulse density handling and internal instantaneous frequency measurement.
- laser warner provides broadband laser frequency coverage to detect and display rangefinding, designating and missile guidance laser threats.
- the countermeasures dispensing system, which is operated in manual, semi-automatic or fully automatic mode, is charged with chaff and flare cartridges.

TDATS (Target detection, acquisition and tracking)

- The TDATS sight is equipped with a low-level television sensor
- Forward-looking infrared (FLIR)
- autotracker
- laser rangefinder
-laser designator.

Navigation
- Doppler radar velocity sensor
- Thales Avionics eight-channel global positioning system
- heading sensor unit and an air data unit.

Communication
- two VHF/UHF transceivers with FM, AM with digital speech processing
- one HF radio with frequency hopping
- secure voice and data channels
- and an IFF transponder.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

[size=20pt]Now your job is simple:

1. Show which of these capabilities existed 30 years ago
2. Show which of these capabilities your Hind has.

OMG, this Patches guy is hilarious?

What is new on that list? 99% of all that stuff has been existing on aircraft about 30 years ago....

VHF and UHF transmission, old school Doppler Radar, FLIR, AM and FM radio....what? What da fvck are you writing on that shiity long list ?

FVCK . LOL.....Fvck !

You have a long garbage list you think will deceive people here? FAIL !

The only modern thing is Top Owl Helmet sight and that is used for the NOE flight.....it failed, the Rooivalk crashed in broad daylight, the sights failed to sight anything o !

FAIL ! Rooivalk is obsolete 30 years technology
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patches689:


No, that is a lightly armed supply ship

So again, well done on scaring off a supply vessel

Such an impressive achievement

4 units of 20mm anti-aircraft cannon

6 units of 12.7mm heavy machine gun

Radars for surveillance and fire control

Now that's 10 anti-aircraft weapons with several radars on SAS Drakensberg in Ivory Coast, yet South African navy ran away from Nigerian Alpha jets in Seleka style race, you had 50 times better anti-aircraft defenses on that supply warship than Boko Haram ever dreamed to have, yet Bokos challenged NAF Alpha jets, South African navy failed to try it....ran away back home just because Nigeria showed 1% of it's military might....SAN + SANDF = Cowards of Africa.....Boko Haram has more courage than South African military forces
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patches689:


Yeah yeah, its obsolecent because you say so - its not like they get overhauled and upgraded every 2-3 years or something

And no - the Type 209's dont have anti-ship missiles[b] AND ARE BASED ON OUR SUBMARINE[/b]

The Egyptian Government has signed an agreement with Germany for the procurement of two Howaldtswerke-Deutche Werft (HDW)-built SSK Manthatisi-class Type-209 submarines
http://www.naval-technology.com/news/newsgermany-deliver-two-type-209-submarines-egypt

Manthatisi class is the class of Type 209 operated by the SAN named after the lead vessel - THE MANTHATISI
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/sskmanthatisi/

You see!! Our submarines are so advanced even mighty egypt copies us!!

LOL....mumu, Egyptian navy is buying the 2012-2016 version, and armed with anti-ship missiles , it's a different Type 209 submarine configuration that Egypt is buying, your Southie versions are 1990s version and older, you also have NO SINGLE anti-ship missile on your own submarine, South Africa needs to copy Egypt you dundee !
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patches689:


That is a hind taking off

SAAF does NOE all the time

Again, look at the hind specifications - is NOE listed?

That is a Hind taking off? Taking off from tree top? The empty desert and trees below are an airbase? Envy is wrecking the shiit out of Patches.

NAF Hind flies in Nap Of Earth almost hugging the ground inside combat zone to terminate the lives of Boko Haramites !

The Hind is successful with 2,500 units sold by 1995, now it's likely about 3,000 units of Mi-24/35 Hind sold around the world, yet the Russians do not have any boasting website for it, the Hind sells itself without noisy advertisement, but Rooivalk has no buyer outside SA, so you make noise about everything that is true and false to get buyers out of desperation.

Airforce Technology website simply defines the Mi-35M Hind with one sentence "Modern state-of-the-art avionics."

How many modern combat helicopters make noise about NOE capability? You think Apache and Tiger cannot do it?

The NOE that was marketed on Rooivalk is fake, it was tested and failed, Rooivalk crashed.

Mi-35 Hind is not making noise about NOE, yet it is doing it successfully in combat many times, the photo is now out to prove it, thanks to Nigerian air force.....look again at the NAF combat photo below and commiit suiicide o South Africa.....
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patches689:


Judging by the hundreds of posts you nigerians have made about it

You care quite deeply about our Rooivalk

We have actually wrecked any future sale of the Rooivalk with what we have written here on Nairaland.

Nigerians have spoiled your market completely by exposing all the loop holes in the Rooivalk
.

jln115:

Dude you said at least one of your opvs will be towed to Nigeria, because the control room according to you wasn't/isn't completed yet.

Quote where I said that. I said: "What if the plan is to build hull and tow it to Nigeria for completion? "

Now quote where I said F92 WILL be towed.

Did you fail English grammar in school? Englishman failed English language. LOL
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patches689:


South African Navy, aquisitions in 29 years:

4 Frigates - Brand new, most advanced in Africa (sans the FREMM)
3 Subs - Brand new, most advanced in Africa
4 Frigate Sized OPV's - Brand new
3 IPV's - Brand new
1 Hydrographic vessel - brand new
1 Supply and Support Vessel - brand new, biggest ship built in Africa
1 Strike craft - Brand new
Dare to compare

Best warships and submarines in Africa are :

1. FREMM Frigate Morocco

2. Meko A200 Frigates with 180 km Exocet missiles, Algeria

3. C28A Frigates with 250 km range C-802 missiles, Algeria

4. Tiger Class Frigates with 130 km range missiles and 100 mm main gun, Algeria

5. Year 2010 version Kilo Class 636M Submarine, Algeria

6. Year 2015 version Type 209 submarine with 120 km range Harpoon II Anti-ship missiles, Egypt.

You see, South Africa does not even appear in top 4 warships and top 2 submarines in Africa....SAN is lost in project biro
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Henry120:


NAF Hind doing NOE!!!

The only evidence available is a Nigerian Hind doing a very low altitude flight course, none from the SAAF.



while you are at it, Point out the dust to show the Helicopter is lifting up?

Nice upper cut to his jaw.

Henry120:


Project Biro
Calculate 23 years + 6 years = ?

Zuma has spent all the money meant for Project BIRO to dig escape tunnels all over South africa.

lionel4power:
= obsolete biro

Explain how that makes it obsolete

lionel4power:
what i care about is the hind. Ol trusty war chariot

A bird that is inferior in every single way

Henry120:


Patrick, nobody would pay $40 million for an obsolete Helicopter like the South-African AH. This is an indisputable fact. Not even the South-African government can afford them, hence their order dropped from 32 to only 12.


1. Given the Half-french AH, MI-28N, Apache and MI-35M. Countries in Africa would pick the MI-28N,MI-35m, Apache over the Half-french because they are proven Helicopters, with guaranteed availability of spares, and from trusted partners. It is basic common sense.

Even in Africa, your Half-french AH which the SAAF cannot even afford, would come out second best every time.


2. The AH was built to fill the requirements of the SADF, and as well as for exports. As a result of the inability of the South-African government to meet it's financial targets, orders were drastically cut for the AH, and funding cut.

- The decision to export the AH is as vital a requirement as the SAAF fielding them. If this isn't the case, it would not have been rejected by the 5+ countries it was offered to.

3. The Z-10, China currently operates 60+ in service, not 12. Pakistan was gifted 3 examples from China, and currently has an order for 20 units.

- the Indian HAL LCH is still under-development. When it enters service, India would order over 180 examples, and South-Africa is been touted as a possible export customer.

- The T-129, Turkey has currently an order for 91 units, again not 12. With Nigeria, Bahrain and Azerbaijan showing strong interests in the AH. Infact Nigeria is in the process of acquiring a couple units.



At 40 million a unit, nobody, not even the SAAF is willing to pay that much for a sub-standard Helicopter.

- The AH was designed to also be exported, exports is a very vital yardstick in determining the viability of the AH. Since nobody wants the AH, it is safe to conclude that the half-french is a failed French/South-African experiment.


Like i always say........... that the truth hurts your feelings doesn't mean it's inaccurate.

South Africa can afford it - but the order was cut back when we cut back our military at the end of apartheid.

1. African countries chose them because they come in at around half the price of a Rooivalk.

2. Rooivalk was never built for export- and please provide proof of the "5 countries" that turned it down

3. And yet you said that China would have flooded the region with them
- HAL for South Africa? Citation needed
- Nigeria is not getting the T129
- Turkey still prioritizes defence spending, South Africa does not, hence we cut back on the rooivalk

Rooivalks capabilities are well defined and you can see that it is worth $40 million - hence the Turks considered it right until the end of the deal

And again, the Rooivalk was not designed for export - it was designed for the SAAF. Thus judging it by sales is pointless

agaugust:

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[size=20pt]South Africa bribed FIFA $10 million to host 2010 World Cup[/size]

Arrests now made in Sweden as requested by USA, world level corruption championed by South Africa.

I wonder how this Southies don't get ranked correctly in corruption index, Gripen jet bribe, this bribe, that bribe, FIFA world cup bribe, wow !

Hope South Africa is not bribing those who rank global corruption to keep them off the top level.

Rotten 3rd world South Africa.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/may/27/fifa-officials-arrested-on-corruption-charges-live
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Nigeria remains more corrupt than South AFrica


FACT

Deal with it

agaugust:


Bwahahahaha .LOL.

@Patches is does not know naval warfare, he thinks Type 056 frigate 1,300 tons ship has the same range with Nigeria's long endurance OPV of 1,800 tons. LOL....an OPV of same size as a frigate will have longer range because they are built for long patrol. The 2,000 mile is for light frigate, the OPV version for Thailands navy is 3,500 nautical mile range.

Yet Nigeria's F-91 NNS Centenary is far bigger, we have 1,800 tons not the 1,300 ton of Thailand that has range 3,500 nautical miles.

Nigerian OPV range is far far and far far far beyond range of your Soweto tiny tea-pot floating on bath tub water Warrior Class Strike craft MPV that you are falsely calling OPV.

Look at this dude comparing an ancient rust metal tin can SAN 1970s gunboat with a NN 2014 stealth OPV that all full digital navionics, you don't know how many billion dollars Nigeria invested in patrol forces at sea? It's our navy's strength and your navy's weakness.

Now stop this hilarious and humiliating comparison so your national pride does not get hurt in Pretoria, only Nigerian navy can use one warship to sail around Africa on one fuel tank without stopping to refuel on the way. We rule Africa in naval range.
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Range of warrior class: 4000 miles
Type 056 OPV: 2000 miles

Fact

BWA-HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

Henry120:


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[size=20pt]Rooivalk Remains 30 Years Obsolete.

Fake Upgrades :[/size]

There is NO PROOF that the Rooivalk computers or avionics were upgraded as proposed. No proof the money was release, no proof the job was done.

The only certain upgrade was to add ability to use Mokopa missile which was never ordered into service.

Next job was the over-heating cannon that was cooled from overheating, repaired, not upgraded. ZERO technology advancement. Same old gun

Rooivalk remains 30 years obsolete....even Rwanda won't buy it !


"Denel Aviation finally handed over five new Rooivalk Mark 1 combat helicopters to the South African Air Force on 1 April 2011, after years of development, building and testing.

The new Rooivalk Mk.1 is not much different to its old predecessor , the AH-2 Rooivalk.

The cannons which used to be a bother on the older Rooivalk by overheating very quickly and preventing rapid and sustained fire, have now been fixed.

The chief of the South African Air Force General Carlo Gagiano said, “ What is new is the Mokopa missile , which was test-fired at the Overberg range a long time ago and we had some very good results.”

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2011-04-04-rooivalk-the-next-generation-mark-1/#.VWZ7hvlVhBd

"The investment comes despite the helicopter's builder, Denel, questioning the viability of the 23-year-old project. The rotorcraft's cockpit reflects an avionics and computer processing power system that is now two decades old.

They are divided on whether the project is worth the effort. Some sources say it amounts to throwing good money after bad and paying for a Porsche to do a CitiGolf's job."

http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5449&catid=96:defence-and-aerospace-technology


Rooivalk remains a 30 year obsolete attack helicopter.

CASE CLOSED
.


CC. Agaugust.

Rooivalk Specifications:

Thales TopOwl Helmets
- A Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE).
- TopOwl incorporates an integrated measurement system for directing an articulated weapon such as the cannon, or air-to-air missile seeker heads (look to kill capabilities).

Electronic Warfare
- Rooivalk's electronic warfare suite is the fully integrated helicopter electronic warfare self-protection suite (HEWSPS)
- incorporates: radar warning, laser warning and countermeasures dispensing system.
- The system is flight-line programmable and in-flight adaptable to match the threat library with the mission's area of operation.
-radar warner features low-effective radiated power (ERP) / pulse Doppler radar detection beyond radar detection range, ultra broadband frequency coverage, high pulse density handling and internal instantaneous frequency measurement.
- laser warner provides broadband laser frequency coverage to detect and display rangefinding, designating and missile guidance laser threats.
- the countermeasures dispensing system, which is operated in manual, semi-automatic or fully automatic mode, is charged with chaff and flare cartridges.

TDATS (Target detection, acquisition and tracking)

- The TDATS sight is equipped with a low-level television sensor
- Forward-looking infrared (FLIR)
- autotracker
- laser rangefinder
-laser designator.

Navigation
- Doppler radar velocity sensor
- Thales Avionics eight-channel global positioning system
- heading sensor unit and an air data unit.

Communication
- two VHF/UHF transceivers with FM, AM with digital speech processing
- one HF radio with frequency hopping
- secure voice and data channels
- and an IFF transponder.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

[size=20pt]Now your job is simple:

1. Show which of these capabilities existed 30 years ago
2. Show which of these capabilities your Hind has.


The fact that you cannot answer these 2 questions tells me everything [/size]

agaugust:


Shilka has 4 barrels and are radar guided to pin point target, even if the target is speeding 1,000 km/h like Hawk jet.

SANDF does NOT have any CRAM anti-missile defence as at today 2015, the project is slowed down by lack of funds, and the target date of 2017 will be further delayed.

SANDF has NO SINGLE CRAM defence today. FACT !

Nigeria has 16 Roland launchers, 2 missiles load each, 8 more missiles inside cabin with rapid automatic reload in 10 seconds.

10 missiles x 16 launchers = 160 missiles.....SAAF will die in seconds
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Shilka cannot shoot down a bomb without smart munitions

Upgrade project started, you are telling lies about the project being delayed (as usual), SAAF has CRAM

Your roland missiles are the mobile kind on the AMX chassis, no 8 missile reload - proven long ago