patches689:

And yet Biro is nearing completion

We built the Rooivalk for the SAAF, sales are anciliary

lionel4power:

1) Nigeria is the largest economy in Africa (fact)
2) Nigerian is the most powerful black nation in the world. (fact)
3) Nigerians are the most happiest people in the world (fact)
4) Nigeria just proved to the world that we have the most matured democracy (fact)
please dont embarass yourself further

patches689:

Ok - just confirm for me
You are saying that these are facts?

lionel4power:
yes

agaugust:


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Bwhahaahahaa. LOL.

According to your own source, South Africa is manufacturing tiny battery to light up the screen lights for display of data, like the screen of a lap top computer, battery for the light/power for viewing displays on the monitor. LOL

"The agreement will see Avitronics develop and manufacture a new power unit for the Gripen's display system supplied by Ericsson Saab Avionics. "

South Africa is making some tiny batteries, like the ones that power up Nokia phone screen for us to see the text messages we are typing. LOL.

Congrats on your tiny battery. LOL.

How does that become a major component to make the Gripen a Half South African product?

Even Italy that makes the radar is not claiming part-ownership of Gripen.

Olodo . LOL.
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lionel4power:

1) Nigeria is the largest economy in Africa (fact)
2) Nigerian is the most powerful black nation in the world. (fact)
3) Nigerians are the most happiest people in the world (fact)
4) Nigeria just proved to the world that we have the most matured democracy (fact)
please dont embarass yourself further

patches689:


1. True - but biggest doesn't mean best, or even most powerful

2. South Africa is more powerful in every conceivable means of power

3. Swiss are the happiest people on earth
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/switzerland-officially-the-happiest-country-on-earth--with-britain-lagging-in-21st-place-10221591.html

4. The fact that you even think that holding a successful election is a sign of maturity shows how immature you are. Anyway, South Africa has been democratic longer and has more political freedom

4a. South Africa ranks 30th in the democracy index, Nigeria ranks 121st
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

So in reality only one of the things you said was a fact

AugustineAgain:


Your only PGM is a mere bomb, and even a Shilka will s.hoot it down, not to even mention a Roland missile that wastes bombs like Baygon wastes mosquitoes. Your bombs are useless as they get easily b.lown out of the s.ky. LOL
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agaugust:


South Africa is manufacturing electronic wires and cables, common diodes and connectors that University students play with in laboratory, you did not make any major component of the Gripen jet. You are just making wires and cables. LOL. Same war you guys were trying to scam us here claiming to have manufactured components for Airbus AM400 transport aircraft but by the time we saw the list of components, it was like pieces of cardboard and paint. LOL.

Scammers, desperados...Southies LOL
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xwolverine:


South Africa and democracy shouldn't be in the same sentence, not with the ANC holding the nation to ransom. Only second to communist China and North Korea

How convenient, you now quote Wikipedia as a valid source when it suits your argument.

agaugust:


You quote the people on Beegeagle and you claim that Augustine is the same one on Nairaland, you post his claims about South African navy Vs Nigerian navy as facts according to you, you also post his comments about Roland missiles as facts, those are not photos, they are peoples' comments, yet you want us to ignore the comments made by Col.Eben Barlow on the same Beegeeagle blog because it does not favour you, so you claim it's same Augustine but not same Col.Eben Barlow.....Beegeeagle is right only when you South Africans say so, right? LOL...LOL.

You guys have officially made Beegeeagle an accepted source on Nairaland. South Africans cannot continue copying and pasting comments from Beegeeagle here, and reject comments from same Beegeagle when quoted by Nigerians. We will both use Beegeagle as valid source from now on....Equation balanced.

First, you need to show us the interior of the ship to proof your fairy tale that the ship is ready to sail. LOL.

You need to prove that all the control room is fully built and prove that the ship is sailing on it's own NOT TUGGED by another ship to Nigeria, prove it, since you are the captain of the F92 ship, and you are in charge of the imaginary control room fully built by you. LOL.

Show us the control room built and ready. LOL....I dare you to show us.

You live in 3rd world country that you claim is equal to Europe. LOL.

What do you know about ship construction? You have not seen modular ships before? You can piece a modular ship together for sailing China to Nigeria, then the ship gets to Nigeria and is dis-assembled again to re-modularize parts and electronics, even the structures on the deck are modular design, you can take them apart in Nigeria to fit or refit parts in line with construction agreements.

LOL.....This Soweto guy thinks a modern MODULAR ship is built like with concrete-cement and is permanently fixed like his house. LOL.

That is how far your 2nd bottom of the world South African brain can think in . LOL...LOL...LOL.

South Africa will NEVER build 2% of a stealth warship until year 2050.

Agreement is 50%-70 % built in Nigeria, no breech of agreement has been reported. You need to prove a breech of agreement....

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-18300358
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Henry120:


When you want to tell lies, please tell your "stand alone" lies, don't try to drag anyone, especially me into it.


You claimed Nigerian Navy OPVs, weren't towed into South-Africa, yet you went ahead to post a Photo of NNS Centenary, where is that of NNS Unity passing through Simmons town?

lionel4power:
18 months? Whats gonna happen then? Your gonna buy new french subcomponents. Dude we've been waiting for 23 years for biro. Arent u tired of waiting?... ur heroin class is getting old too. Old lady heroine

jln115:

Dude you are fvcking lost again! It was Agaugust who said your OPVs were/will be towed to LAGOS, I posted the PIC to prove that at least one of your OPVs was difinately not being towed

patches689:


Ok -

So your citation is an opinion peice written before the Rooivalk project was completed?

And, especially, before the Rooivalk was upgraded?

I ask again - give us factual sources to support your claims

Henry120:


The citation is factual, written a couple of years after the half-french AH entered SAAF service. The writers sources include open sourced material and testimonies from SAAF pilots and Engineers who worked on the AH.

Fact, the Rooivalk is obsolete and runs on computers that are 30 years behind any AH currently in service.

Evidence already known by many people around the world, only now corroborated by decent South-Africans.


You can continue to live in denial, but the fact is your half-french AH is archaic, ancient and completely out of it's depth in the current battle space.

patches689:


How did the rooivalk with 30 year old co
Components beat the Apache and Tiger in the Turkish trails?

Answer the question

patches689:


Are you ready to get fvcking wrecked?

Henry120:


The citation is factual, written a couple of years after the half-french AH entered SAAF service. The writers sources include open sourced material and testimonies from SAAF pilots and Engineers who worked on the AH.

Fact, the Rooivalk is obsolete and runs on computers that are 30 years behind any AH currently in service.

Evidence already known by many people around the world, only now corroborated by decent South-Africans.


You can continue to live in denial, but the fact is your half-french AH is archaic, ancient and completely out of it's depth in the current battle space.

Henry120:


The Rooivalk only made it that far, as the Americans nor Europeans were never going to be willing, to allow both the Tiger or Apache to be built in turkey. It was a forgone conclusion.

Henry120:


Patrick you r3tard, post your crap!! I know i've given you so many nightmare filled sleeps........ just deal with it, your AH is a dinosaur!!!

Henry120:


You are completely r3tarded. Agaugust was referring to the 2nd OPV, F-92, not the first OPV delivered.

It has always been clear that a significant part of the 2nd OPV would be completed in Port-Harcourt.

patches689:


Your artical is from June 2007

The Rooivalk was not yet in service and had just defeated the Apache and Tiger in the Turkish trials

4 or so months after your artical US$137 million was spent on upgrading the Rooivalk
http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/business/2007/0711121430.asp?S=IT%20in%20Defence&A=DFN&O=FRGN

In 2011 the Rooivalk was upgraded to Mk1 status - these upgrades include “modifications to the weapons systems, avionics and airborne systems”.
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2011-04-04-rooivalk-the-next-generation-mark-1/#.VWZ7hvlVhBd

So, as we can see, your source is based on OPINION, is OUTDATED and based on INCOMPLETE facts

[size=15pt]Now that we have rubbished your source - we will do what you have been avoiding for so long - we will speak about actual specifications of the aircraft [/size]

jln115:

Well either way , in this PIC your f92 looks pretty much completed

Henry120:


Patrick, i'm embarrassed by your poor showing, completely embarrassed!!!


Is this supposed to be your armageddon citation?

patches689:


And yet as we have shown - it completely outperformed the Hind YOU OPERATE in the DRC

So - if the Rooivalk is a dinosaur - what is the Hind?

patches689:


1. True - but biggest doesn't mean best, or even most powerful

2. South Africa is more powerful in every conceivable means of power

3. Swiss are the happiest people on earth
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/switzerland-officially-the-happiest-country-on-earth--with-britain-lagging-in-21st-place-10221591.html

4. The fact that you even think that holding a successful election is a sign of maturity shows how immature you are. Anyway, South Africa has been democratic longer and has more political freedom

4a. South Africa ranks 30th in the democracy index, Nigeria ranks 121st
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

So in reality only one of the things you said was a fact

patches689:
Rooivalk Specifications:

Thales TopOwl Helmets
- A Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE).
- TopOwl incorporates an integrated measurement system for directing an articulated weapon such as the cannon, or air-to-air missile seeker heads (look to kill capabilities).

Electronic Warfare
- Rooivalk's electronic warfare suite is the fully integrated helicopter electronic warfare self-protection suite (HEWSPS)
- incorporates: radar warning, laser warning and countermeasures dispensing system.
- The system is flight-line programmable and in-flight adaptable to match the threat library with the mission's area of operation.
-radar warner features low-effective radiated power (ERP) / pulse Doppler radar detection beyond radar detection range, ultra broadband frequency coverage, high pulse density handling and internal instantaneous frequency measurement.
- laser warner provides broadband laser frequency coverage to detect and display rangefinding, designating and missile guidance laser threats.
- the countermeasures dispensing system, which is operated in manual, semi-automatic or fully automatic mode, is charged with chaff and flare cartridges.

TDATS (Target detection, acquisition and tracking)

- The TDATS sight is equipped with a low-level television sensor
- Forward-looking infrared (FLIR)
- autotracker
- laser rangefinder
-laser designator.

Navigation
- Doppler radar velocity sensor
- Thales Avionics eight-channel global positioning system
- heading sensor unit and an air data unit.

Communication
- two VHF/UHF transceivers with FM, AM with digital speech processing
- one HF radio with frequency hopping
- secure voice and data channels
- and an IFF transponder.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

[size=20pt]Now your job is simple:

1. Show which of these capabilities existed 30 years ago
2. Show which of these capabilities your Hind has.

You have made big claims, time to step up and prove them Mr Henry-BecauseIsaySo-120[/size]

jln115:

As I said before let's just wait 18 months then we can talk.

Don't worry you don't have to wait for Biro any longer, its nearly completed.

Heroin class old? Well to be honest your also the guy who said Congo is richer than Thailand.

Henry120:


1. All capabilities available since the 70's.

2. Go read up on the MI-35M Hind E


http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mi-35m-hind-e/

lionel4power:


Your IQ is still dropping below minus zero very fast. I said ur heroine is getting old. (9 yrs and counting) And when is said Congo was richer than Thailand I meant it sarcastically. (I could have chosen any other country Bro with confirmed wealth) You SA live by every word dat drops out of a Nigerian mouth.