Henry120:


NAF Hind doing NOE!!!

The only evidence available is a Nigerian Hind doing a very low altitude flight course, none from the SAAF.



while you are at it, Point out the dust to show the Helicopter is lifting up?

agaugust:


OMG, this Patches guy is hilarious?

What is new on that list? 99% of all that stuff has been existing on aircraft about 30 years ago....

VHF and UHF transmission, old school Doppler Radar, FLIR, AM and FM radio....what? What da fvck are you writing on that shiity long list ?

FVCK . LOL.....Fvck !

You have a long garbage list you think will deceive people here? FAIL !

The only modern thing is Top Owl Helmet sight and that is used for the NOE flight.....it failed, the Rooivalk crashed in broad daylight, the sights failed to sight anything o !

FAIL ! Rooivalk is obsolete 30 years technology
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agaugust:


4 units of 20mm anti-aircraft cannon

6 units of 12.7mm heavy machine gun

Radars for surveillance and fire control

Now that's 10 anti-aircraft weapons with several radars on SAS Drakensberg in Ivory Coast, yet South African navy ran away from Nigerian Alpha jets in Seleka style race, you had 50 times better anti-aircraft defenses on that supply warship than Boko Haram ever dreamed to have, yet Bokos challenged NAF Alpha jets, South African navy failed to try it....ran away back home just because Nigeria showed 1% of it's military might....SAN + SANDF = Cowards of Africa.....Boko Haram has more courage than South African military forces
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agaugust:


LOL....mumu, Egyptian navy is buying the 2012-2016 version, and armed with anti-ship missiles , it's a different Type 209 submarine configuration that Egypt is buying, your Southie versions are 1990s version and older, you also have NO SINGLE anti-ship missile on your own submarine, South Africa needs to copy Egypt you dundee !
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agaugust:


That is a Hind taking off? Taking off from tree top? The empty desert and trees below are an airbase? Envy is wrecking the shiit out of Patches.

NAF Hind flies in Nap Of Earth almost hugging the ground inside combat zone to terminate the lives of Boko Haramites !

The Hind is successful with 2,500 units sold by 1995, now it's likely about 3,000 units of Mi-24/35 Hind sold around the world, yet the Russians do not have any boasting website for it, the Hind sells itself without noisy advertisement, but Rooivalk has no buyer outside SA, so you make noise about everything that is true and false to get buyers out of desperation.

Airforce Technology website simply defines the Mi-35M Hind with one sentence "Modern state-of-the-art avionics."

How many modern combat helicopters make noise about NOE capability? You think Apache and Tiger cannot do it?

The NOE that was marketed on Rooivalk is fake, it was tested and failed, Rooivalk crashed.

Mi-35 Hind is not making noise about NOE, yet it is doing it successfully in combat many times, the photo is now out to prove it, thanks to Nigerian air force.....look again at the NAF combat photo below and commiit suiicide o South Africa.....
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agaugust:


We have actually wrecked any future sale of the Rooivalk with what we have written here on Nairaland.

Nigerians have spoiled your market completely by exposing all the loop holes in the Rooivalk
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agaugust:


Best warships and submarines in Africa are :

1. FREMM Frigate Morocco

2. Meko A200 Frigates with 180 km Exocet missiles, Algeria

3. C28A Frigates with 250 km range C-802 missiles, Algeria

4. Tiger Class Frigates with 130 km range missiles and 100 mm main gun, Algeria

5. Year 2010 version Kilo Class 636M Submarine, Algeria

6. Year 2015 version Type 209 submarine with 120 km range Harpoon II Anti-ship missiles, Egypt.

You see, South Africa does not even appear in top 4 warships and top 2 submarines in Africa....SAN is lost in project biro
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agaugust:


Nice upper cut to his jaw.

EVarn:
Zuma has spent all the money meant for Project BIRO to dig escape tunnels all over South africa.

patches689:

And yet project Biro continues as planned

patches689:


You are obsessed with it.

Fact

EVarn:
Indeed,and it would 'continue' for another 30 years with nothing to show for it,'as planned' of course .

Henry120:

We feel a great deal of pity for you South-Africans. Flying an obsolete Helicopter, your government cannot afford and has been roundly rejected!!



"Denel COO Jan Wessels outlined the company's thinking to IHS Jane's , saying the process is taking the form of a "two-pronged approach".

The first is focused on the "life extension of the existing Rooivalk Block 1F fleet, dealing with obsolescence and adding some functionalities". Denel, Armscor and the South African Air Force (SAAF) are working to "establish the breadth and depth of the upgrade" that should be undertaken.

While not yet confirmed, this has to include the replacement of old computers. It would also make sense to integrate the Denel Dynamics Mokopa semi-active laser (SAL)-guided missile, which was developed for the Rooivalk, but has not been acquired by the SAAF as yet."



Even IHS Janes confirms the Half-french obsolete Helicopter flies Old/ancient computers.

patches689:

And yet the tenders close on june 30

EVarn:
Yeah,tenders as usual,tenders that would see neither contract nor implementation.
HEADLINES 2O50:
DAILY NEWS: SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SUBMIT TENDERS FOR NEWLY RESUSCICATED PROJECT BIRO
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HEADLINES 2070:
DAILY NEWS: RISE,FALL AND RISE AGAIN OF PROJECT BIRO,SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SCRAMBLE FOR NEW TENDERS
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HEADLINES 2090:
DAILY NEWS: "PROJECT BIRO TO REOPEN BID THIS SUMMER",SOUTH ARICA'S DEFENCE MINISTER CLAIMS
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HEADLINES 2120:
DAILY NEWS: AFTER 120 YEARS AND NUMEROUS BIDDING PROCESSES,PROJECT BIRO AWAITS FULL ACCREDITATION BEFORE YULETIDE
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WORLD HEADLINES 2150: 'PROJECT BIRO' CELEBRATES 150 YEARS AS SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT KICKSTART FRESH BIDDING PROCESS
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patches689:


Dude, dont you have something better to do with your time?

I am all for actual debate about military equipment

But such pointless arguments?

SAN has said it is getting them, tenders (and funds) have been released for the task and a Naval Base has been built for them to operate from, while the SAN has allready put plans in place to hire the extra 600 sailors who will crew them.

It is obvious that Biro is going to be completed on schedule.

EVarn:
We shall see then.

EVarn:
Yeah,tenders as usual,tenders that would see neither contract nor implementation.
HEADLINES 2O50:
DAILY NEWS: SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SUBMIT TENDERS FOR NEWLY RESUSCICATED PROJECT BIRO
.
HEADLINES 2070:
DAILY NEWS: RISE,FALL AND RISE AGAIN OF PROJECT BIRO,SOUTH AFRICAN MARITIME DEFENCE INDUSTRIES SCRAMBLE TO SUBMIT NEW TENDERS
.
HEADLINES 2090:
DAILY NEWS: "PROJECT BIRO TO REOPEN BID THIS SUMMER",SOUTH ARICA'S DEFENCE MINISTER CLAIMS
.
HEADLINES 2120:
DAILY NEWS: AFTER 120 YEARS AND NUMEROUS BIDDING PROCESSES,PROJECT BIRO AWAITS FULL ACCREDITATION BEFORE YULETIDE
.
WORLD HEADLINES 2150: 'PROJECT BIRO' CELEBRATES 150 YEARS AS SOUTH AFRICAN GOVERNMENT KICKSTART FRESH BIDDING PROCESS
.

patches689:


Dude, dont you have something better to do with your time?

I am all for actual debate about military equipment

But such pointless arguments?

SAN has said it is getting them, tenders (and funds) have been released for the task and a Naval Base has been built for them to operate from, while the SAN has allready put plans in place to hire the extra 600 sailors who will crew them.

It is obvious that Biro is going to be completed on schedule.

patches689:


A bird that is inferior in every single way

lionel4power:
the hind is a attack heli/gunship while the rooivalk mixture of puma>super puma>oryx>alouette iii>alpha xh-1>obsolete roolvalk

lionel4power:
same thing your government said 23 yrs ago

lionel4power:
the hind is a attack heli/gunship while the rooivalk mixture of puma>super puma>oryx>alouette iii>alpha xh-1>obsolete roolvalk

patches689:


Range of warrior class: 4000 miles
Type 056 OPV: 2000 miles

Fact

BWA-HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

DieVluit:


Has Nigeria built a heli? Can Nigeria build a heli?

Ok, next.

patches689:


Range of warrior class: 4000 miles

patches689:


Shilka cannot shoot down a bomb without smart munitions

patches689:


Upgrade project started, you are telling lies about the project being delayed (as usual), SAAF has CRAM

patches689:


Your roland missiles are the mobile kind on the AMX chassis, no 8 missile reload - proven long ago

patches689:



Manually operated 20mm and 12,7mm are of practically no use against jet fighters

patches689:


And yet in reality

The hind is not a dedicated attack helicopter

And the Rooivalk is

patches689:


Augustus

Why are you avoiding the majority of the capabilities of the Rooivalk?

Rooivalk Specifications:

Thales TopOwl Helmets
- A Thales Avionics TopOwl helmet-mounted sight display (HMSD) provides the crew with a head-up display of information for nap-of-the-earth flight (NOE).
- TopOwl incorporates an integrated measurement system for directing an articulated weapon such as the cannon, or air-to-air missile seeker heads (look to kill capabilities).

Electronic Warfare
- Rooivalk's electronic warfare suite is the fully integrated helicopter electronic warfare self-protection suite (HEWSPS)
- incorporates: radar warning, laser warning and countermeasures dispensing system.
- The system is flight-line programmable and in-flight adaptable to match the threat library with the mission's area of operation.
-radar warner features low-effective radiated power (ERP) / pulse Doppler radar detection beyond radar detection range, ultra broadband frequency coverage, high pulse density handling and internal instantaneous frequency measurement.
- laser warner provides broadband laser frequency coverage to detect and display rangefinding, designating and missile guidance laser threats.
- the countermeasures dispensing system, which is operated in manual, semi-automatic or fully automatic mode, is charged with chaff and flare cartridges.

TDATS (Target detection, acquisition and tracking)

- The TDATS sight is equipped with a low-level television sensor
- Forward-looking infrared (FLIR)
- autotracker
- laser rangefinder
-laser designator.

Navigation
- Doppler radar velocity sensor
- Thales Avionics eight-channel global positioning system
- heading sensor unit and an air data unit.

Communication
- two VHF/UHF transceivers with FM, AM with digital speech processing
- one HF radio with frequency hopping
- secure voice and data channels
- and an IFF transponder.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/rooivalk/

[size=16pt]Now your job is simple:

1. Show which of these capabilities existed 30 years ago
2. Show which of these capabilities your Hind has. [/size]