Patchesagain:


It doesnt say that SAPS have surrendered

Augubugs famous illiteracy rears its head again!!

Patches the school drop out, go for adult education classes, learn to read :

"David Maynier, the shadow Minister of Defence and Military Veterans told IRIN that the South African police had "raised the white flag" on their attempt to impose border security. "

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border
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Patchesagain:


I refuse to answer your question the context you framed it in as it is misleading

Financial problems? we just spent $1 billion on the badger IFV... We havd double the budget you do... Now we have financial problems??

Go on then

Go to SIPRI and list everything you purachased since 2000

Lets compare

Peacetime SANDF > War Time Nigeria

Compare what again you fool ?

I have just listed it yesterday, Nigerian purchases peacetime 2000 to 2010. From Cobras to ATR-42 to F-7 jets, why should I repeat it today, are you maaad ?

On Badger IFV, in 15 years on same purchase, you spent so little money you could only buy about 5 units of Badger till date....costs about $ 25 million peanuts to import 5 units from Finland.

SANDF is broke.

FighterPilot:


So, you are insinuating that those of SANDF are in dangerous situation over what your troops are exposed to. We all know Boko can even operate right inside the towns of NE. We all know how hot is NE.

Boko Haram is busy surrendering in hundreds to Nigerian army today, the war tide has changed ! Nigerian army has wrecked Boko Haram !

Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS HERE IS THE LIST OF THE ARMS PURCHASED BY YOUR RAG TAG ARMY AND THERE IS NO MENTION OF HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS....FIGHTER JETS....AND THE LIST LOOK SO UNPROFESSIONAL LIKE IT WAS DRAFTED BY A SIX GRADE CHILD.

The Nigerian Times (NT) has obtained the alleged list of weaponry items bought for the needs of the Nigerian army last year.

This comes after the former national security adviser, Sambo Dasuki, shared images of weapons attained by ex-president Goodluck Jonathan to fight the Boko Haram insurgency.

Indications have emerged that a massive supply of military hardware was received on January 27 of the last year. The NT reports, with reference to its military source that some of the purchased items were computerised and manned with cameras capable of detecting enemy location from long distance. This was to ensure more effective fight against the terrorists.

Read more: http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headline/427382-weapons-purchased-by-army-to-fight-boko-haram-list.html#ixzz3nlaIAaly

Learn to use reliable and genuine sources of information available to the public for free.

Go to SIPRI database and see the list, or these weapons being delivered are not for Nigeria? The helicopters, tanks, missile drones are South African ?

Fool
.

Thiza:
RAG TAG ARMY
Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari has pledged to investigate allegations made by Amnesty International that accuse senior Nigerian military officials of war crimes violations in the offensive against radical Islamist terror group Boko Haram.
http://europe.newsweek.com/nigerias-buhari-vows-investigate-allegations-armys-war-crimes-328218

STORIES OF A RAG TAG ARMY
When Islamist militants raided the northeastern Nigerian village of Izghe, killing 90 people, some government troops dropped their weapons, stripped off their uniforms and fled in civilian clothes, according to two soldiers who were at the scene.

The soldiers said the troops were angry their monthly pay had been cut in half to 15,000 naira ($92) without explanation, heightening their belief that money meant for them and their front-line fight against the Islamist militant group Boko Haram was being siphoned off by officials in Abuja, the capital.

“Somebody is sitting comfortably in Abuja stealing our money, and we are here facing Boko Haram fire every day,” Shu’aibu, a lance corporal, said in a June 11 interview in Yola, capital of Adamawa state. He spoke on the condition that his surname wasn’t published because he’s not authorized to comment.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-07-15/nigerian-troops-say-corruption-saps-will-to-confront-islamists

@AUGUSTUS WHERE IS THE MONEY FOR THE MILITARY HARDWARE??
The arms purchase probe panel that was set up by President Muhammadu Buhari to probe contracts executed during the administrations of late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua to former President Goodluck Jonathan, has started sitting with not less than 13 allegedly indicted retired generals opting for plea bargain.

A highly placed defence source at the weekend told Nigerian Pilot Sunday that the retired generals numbering 13 out of the 19 that are expected to be quizzed by the probe panel have already approach some members of the panel for amicable settlement of the matter than appearing before the panel.

According to the source, a former National Security Adviser is allegedly the arrowhead of the negotiation, if the members of the panel will accept their request. The security source further added that the 13 retired military chiefs are willing to refund N1 trillion to the federal government as part of the plea bargain arrangement
http://www.babreports.com/2015/08/30/buharis-arms-deal-probe-13-army-generals-admit-loots-to-return-n1trillion/

South African military and politicians are involved in many bribery and corruption allegations from SAAB Gripen deal to Frigate and Submarine deals, your azz is as dirty as that of any other African country

Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS STOP LYING YOU BOOSTED ABOUT 40 CHINOOK HELICOPTERS BUT NONE UNTIL NOW.... WHERE ARE THE FIGHTER JETS YOU CLAIM TO HAVE PURCHASED FROM CHINA WHERE ARE THE COBRA HELICOPTERS YOU CLAIMED TO HAVE PURCHASED FROM USA?? WHERE UR THE SUBMARINES YOU CLAIM TO HAVE PURCHASED FROM PAKISTAN SHOW US THAT THEY ARE THERE MUMU...

NIGERIAN RESERVES FALLING

The Central Bank of Nigeria has revealed in its data for the month of September that there has been a fall in Nigeria’s foreign reserves.Foreign exchange reserves fell by 3.14 per cent to $30.48 billion by September 23 from $31.47 billion a month ago, central bank data showed on Wednesday.
http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2015/09/30/nigerias-foreign-reserves-crash-by-1billion

SOUTH AFRICA A TOP FDI DESTINY IN AFRICA
The investment pipeline into South Africa remains robust, according to the acting head of investment promotion and inter-departmental clearing house at the Department of Trade and Industry (dti) Yunus Hoosen.He was speaking at a seminar hosted by the department on the state of foreign direct investment (FDI) in South Africa.

He said South Africa attracted R43bn in FDI in the previous financial year. He explained that due to the cyclical nature of investment it should be expected that both inward and outward investment stock may vary from year to year.

“Over a protracted period of time, South Africa has maintained its position as the top FDI destination in Africa as well as a prolific investor on the African continent. Recent data indicate that this trend is continuing based on the 2014/2015 investment pipeline and the impact of various government programmes across the South African economy,” he said.
http://www.fin24.com/Economy/SAs-investment-pipeline-remains-robust-dti-20151004

SOUTH AFRICA FOREIGN RESERVES STOOD AT $46 BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.imf.org/external/np/sta/ir/IRProcessWeb/data/zaf/eng/curzaf.htm



The Central Bank governor, Mr Godwin Emefiele, has defended his decision not to further devalue the naira despite the pressure on the currency of Africa’s top oil producer amid the global price crash.Godwin Emefiele is also under pressure from foreign investors and Nigerian manufacturers, who say his policies are worsening the oil-dependent country’s economic woes.

But the governor, on Monday, maintained that the naira was 'appropriately priced,' telling the Financial Times Africa Summit he would not allow a policy of 'interminable adjustment' as this would only cause more pain for Nigeria’s 170 million people.The naira lost more than 20 per cent of its value between the start of the oil price fall in July 2014 and February, the last time the Central Bank allowed the currency to depreciate.
http://tribuneonlineng.com/if-we-devalue-naira-again-we-will-kill-nigerians-says-cbn-governor

The whole world of oil producers have falling income. Norway, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, Britain, all have issues. Yet Nigeria still has it's $ 30 billion cash reserve plus the special sovereign fund reserve in dollars as back up.

Learn to memorize simple information for at least 6 months kept in your head, I posted here many times repeatedly, USA refused to sell second hand Chinnook unarmed helicopters, Nigeria changed direction to Russia and we bought 18 brand new Mi-171 terminators armed transports better than the Chinnooks, all delivered and SIPRI records them.

Cobra helicopter USA refused to allow Israel sell us the second hand Cobra helos, Nigeria now bought 9 Mi-35 Hind E and dozens of armed Gazelles plus armed Eurocopter helicopters, photos have been repeatedly posted here for all to see.

We bought 4 new American version Alpha jets, photos shown here. Jane's Defence announced NAF is buying 6 Su-25 KM Frogfoot attack jets in a new deal and story web link was posted here repeatedly.

I think every South African has envy problem or medical condition of constant memory loss
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agaugust:



Stop telling lies !

"Musina town - South African special forces troops have begun a six-month deployment along the troubled border with Zimbabwe, where rape, robbery and other crimes are commonplace. Two companies of Parabats - elite South African paratroopers deployed in recent years to Sudan, DRC and Burundi as peacekeepers - have arrived at a highly porous border in the first phase of a deployment."

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border

SANDF elite troops in hundreds are deployed in combat to replace runaway Southie Police cowards
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The police did not run away. It was just a change of policy dummy. Under president Thabo Mbeki's administration military was withdrawn from border posts and the police were entrusted with such duties. When Zuma came into power there was a dramatic change concerning the border patrol duties in which police were withdrawn and restricted to combating crime in the interior.

FighterPilot:


Your so called agubugubu, the fake researcher thought there will be no time a soldier will ever walk without a helmet in a red area or zone refering to how he's been ignorantly commenting about how SANDF soldiers are not wearing their helmets in what he thought was a red zone. I deliberately picked one of his pictures where the soldiers appeared not to have worn helmets to indirectly show him that it is not always soldiers would wear helmets even if they are in a red area. Within that red zone there are areas which have been stabilised, where soldiers can walk without uncomfortable helmets just to ease their head of a heat created by helmets. Thank you.

Stop telling lies against me dude !

It was your Southie guy Patches who was repeatedly posting photos of Nigerian troops in Konduga without helmet, claiming they were in a red zone, whereas the men were marching just outside their base on a long trip to engage the enemy, so they took off their helmets where it was still safe.

I explained many times to Patches but he kept insisting that the location where even the Vice News Journalist took off his own helmet too is a red zone, who can go into danger of bullets without helmet, does that make any sense?

When you fellow Southies start a foolish argument you will not correct them at that time, buy when Nigerians hit back, you say we started it.

You liar.

agaugust:


The whole world of oil producers have falling income. Norway, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, Britain, all have issues. Yet Nigeria still has it's $ 30 billion cash reserve plus the special sovereign fund reserve in dollars as back up.

Learn to memorize simple information for at least 6 months kept in your head, I posted here many times repeatedly, USA refused to sell second hand Chinnook unarmed helicopters, Nigeria changed direction to Russia and we bought 18 brand new Mi-171 terminators armed transports better than the Chinnooks, all delivered and SIPRI records them.

Cobra helicopter USA refused to sell, Nigeria now bought 9 Mi-35 Hind E and dozens of armed Gazelles plus armed Eurocopter helicopters, photos have been repeatedly posted here for all to see.

We bought 4 new American version Alpha jets, photos shown here. Jane's Defence announced NAF is buying 6 Su-25 KM Frogfoot attack jets in a new deal and story web link was posted here repeatedly.

I think every South African has envy problem or medical condition of constant memory loss
.

All of the countries you mentioned above have more foreign reserves than Naija my friend.

agaugust:


Stop telling lies against me dude !

It was your Southie guy Patches who was repeatedly posting photos of Nigerian troops in Konduga without helmet, claiming they were in a red zone, whereas the men were marching just outside their base on a long trip to engage the enemy, so they took off their helmets where it was still safe.

I explained many times to Patches but he kept insisting that the location where even the Vice News Journalist took off his own helmet too is a red zone, who can go into danger of bullets without helmet, does that make any sense?

When you fellow Southies start a foolish argument you will not correct them at that time, buy when Nigerians hit back, you say we started it.

You liar.

But why were they wearing private clothes mixed with uniform? Or is it just normal to them?

FighterPilot:


But why were they wearing private clothes mixed with uniform? Or is it just normal to them?

None is wearing private clothes, Nigerian army issues many types of different clothing for various needs of soldiers in various conditions.

Out of the 300 troops, may be we see only 3 men adding colour clothing to their army camo, it's a personal thing and does not affect his mobility, he could just remove it before leaving that safe zone and put it in his bag or dump it in their Toyota truck. I have not seen any Nigerian troops wearing red clothes in combat.

FighterPilot:


All of the countries you mentioned above have more foreign reserves than Naija my friend.

Same way they have more than South Africa too.

agaugust:

Same way they have more than South Africa too.

Did I ever put SA on that equation?

agaugust:


None is wearing private clothes, Nigerian army issues many types of different clothing for various needs of soldiers in various conditions.

Those bennies and other items they have worn are purely for private business.

Well said!!! Like you've put it, it really does not need a ruler. They have been issued with private clothes for various needs like when the heat is too much to bear it shouldn't take them more time to just convert to civilians and run away. Bwahaha…

FighterPilot:


Those bennies and other items they have worn are purely for private business.

Well said!!! Like you've put it, it really does not need a ruler. They have been issued with private clothes for various needs like when the heat is too much to bear it shouldn't take them more time to just invert to civilians and run away. Bwahaha…

The beanies are all army green colour hats and standard issue of NA, so are green cotton sweaters, green camo T-shirts and pants, all are army green official issue and standard for all men in service. Only 3 or less men among 300 have private jacket on top their army camo and that is not in a combat zone of engagement. They will pull off those, only a fool will go into battle with a red color jacket, even his mates won't allow him to do it and expose them to enemy visibility. Show me a Nigerian soldier in fighting engagement wearing red jacket in combat.

FighterPilot:


Did I ever put SA on that equation?

The original argument was Nigeria Vs SA as usual.

FighterPilot:



The police did not run away. It was just a change of policy dummy.

"David Maynier, the shadow Minister of Defence and Military Veterans told IRIN that the South African police had "raised the white flag" on their attempt to impose border security. "

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border

white flag = surrender .

Dummy
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FighterPilot:


All of the countries you mentioned above have more foreign reserves than Naija my friend.

Just as our debt is far lower than yours dondi. Have you ever considered your debt before posting rubbish.

iblawi:


Just as our debt is far lower than yours dondi. Have you ever considered your debt before posting rubbish.

Have you even considered our revenues before you posted rubbish.

agaugust:


The original argument was Nigeria Vs SA as usual.

My point is did I put SA in that equation?

agaugust:


The beanies are all army green colour hats and standard issue of NA, so are green cotton sweaters, green camo T-shirts and pants, all are army green official issue and standard for all men in service. Only 3 or less men among 300 have private jacket on top their army camo and that is not in a combat zone of engagement. They will pull off those, only a fool will go into battle with a red color jacket, even his mates won't allow him to do it and expose them to enemy visibility. Show me a Nigerian soldier in fighting engagement wearing red jacket in combat.

Thanks for admitting that some of your men showed high level of indiscipline by mixing uniform with the private clothes. Perhaps it was a standard issue as well to assist when tactical retreat is considered.

agaugust:


"David Maynier, the shadow Minister of Defence and Military Veterans told IRIN that the South African police had "raised the white flag" on their attempt to impose border security. "

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border

white flag = surrender .

Dummy
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Maynier a "shadow" as he calls himself, is nothing in the government. His primary duty is to criticise the government as the member of the opposition DA. The man does not even sit on the cabinet meetings, he is nobody and we just don't have shadow minister in defence. We don't salute him.

He does not know the simple basics that the police were withdrawn from the border patrol duty as the crime was becoming a problem more into the interior. That duty was then transferred to SANDF again as it had been before it was hijacked by the police during Thabo Mbeki administration. Maynier is as drunk as agubugibu.

http://www.bdlive.co.za/articles/2008/04/24/saps-upbeat-on-zimbabwe-border-patrol

https://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/sandf-back-to-the-borders

FighterPilot:


My point is did I put SA in that equation?

The point is that you jumped into an argument between THIZA and me, the original argument was Nigeria vs SA.

Don't jump into other people's argument and distort it, use your head.

FighterPilot:


Maynier a "shadow" as he calls himself, is nothing in the government. His primary duty is to criticise the government as the mber of the opposition DA. The man does not even sit on the cabinet meetings, he is nobody and we just don't have shadow minister in defence. We don't salute him.

He does not know the simple basics that the police were withdrawn from the border patrol duty as the crime was becoming a problem more into the interior. That duty was then transferred to SANDF again as it had been before it was hijacked by the police during Thabo Mbeki administration. Maynier is as drunk as agubugibu.

http://www.bdlive.co.za/articles/2008/04/24/saps-upbeat-on-zimbabwe-border-patrol

https://www.issafrica.org/iss-today/sandf-back-to-the-borders

Any report published that does not favour SANDF is written by an enemy according to your own opinion.

What then about THIZA's article saying Nigerian army is worse equipped than Boko Haram, that one is good to post here and correct info?

FighterPilot:


Thanks for admitting that some of your men showed high level of indiscipline by mixing uniform with the private clothes. Perhaps it was a standard issue as well to assist when tactical retreat is considered.

Large numbers of South African troops showed high level indiscipline few weeks ago in Congo DRC by breaking military rules and were deported in shame back to your country.

agaugust:



Stop telling lies !

"Musina town - South African special forces troops have begun a six-month deployment along the troubled border with Zimbabwe, where rape, robbery and other crimes are commonplace. Two companies of Parabats - elite South African paratroopers deployed in recent years to Sudan, DRC and Burundi as peacekeepers - have arrived at a highly porous border in the first phase of a deployment."

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border

SANDF elite troops in hundreds are deployed in combat to replace runaway Southie Police cowards
.

Deployed to patrol the border not patrol musiana

Must i repost what you said the article says?

Yout intellict is as poorly equipped as your soldiers

agaugust:


Choke on this, simpleton

http://www.thenewage.co.za/50085-1007-53-Special_report_Welcome_to_Musina_the_crime_town
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Where does the article say a single thing you have claimed?

agaugust:


Patches the school drop out, go for adult education classes, learn to read :

"David Maynier, the shadow Minister of Defence and Military Veterans told IRIN that the South African police had "raised the white flag" on their attempt to impose border security. "

http://www.irinnews.org/report/89262/south-africa-troops-reinforcing-a-porous-and-dangerous-border
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One - yes, relating to BORDER POLICING SAPS have been replaced as they have been found to be unable to meet the demands of border policing.

Two - Musina is a town, not the border

So yet again we see your pathetic attempt to hide the lies you claim

agaugust:


Compare what again you fool ?

I have just listed it yesterday, Nigerian purchases peacetime 2000 to 2010. From Cobras to ATR-42 to F-7 jets, why should I repeat it today, are you maaad ?

On Badger IFV, in 15 years on same purchase, you spent so little money you could only buy about 5 units of Badger till date....costs about $ 25 million peanuts to import 5 units from Finland.

SANDF is broke.

Post your imports as listed by SIPRI between 2000-2014

Why do you refuse to compare? You scared brah?

$1 billion is "so little money?

236 Badger IFV's ordered and paid for, being built in RSA as we speak

Nigeria as usual fails to compare

agaugust:


Boko Haram is busy surrendering in hundreds to Nigerian army today, the war tide has changed ! Nigerian army has wrecked Boko Haram !

Looks like civilians to me

agaugust:


South African military and politicians are involved in many bribery and corruption allegations from SAAB Gripen deal to Frigate and Submarine deals, your azz is as dirty as that of any other African country

We may be corrupt

But at least we actually get equipment from our arms deals

agaugust:


The whole world of oil producers have falling income. Norway, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran, Britain, all have issues. Yet Nigeria still has it's $ 30 billion cash reserve plus the special sovereign fund reserve in dollars as back up.

Learn to memorize simple information for at least 6 months kept in your head, I posted here many times repeatedly, USA refused to sell second hand Chinnook unarmed helicopters, Nigeria changed direction to Russia and we bought 18 brand new Mi-171 terminators armed transports better than the Chinnooks, all delivered and SIPRI records them.

Cobra helicopter USA refused to allow Israel sell us the second hand Cobra helos, Nigeria now bought 9 Mi-35 Hind E and dozens of armed Gazelles plus armed Eurocopter helicopters, photos have been repeatedly posted here for all to see.

We bought 4 new American version Alpha jets, photos shown here. Jane's Defence announced NAF is buying 6 Su-25 KM Frogfoot attack jets in a new deal and story web link was posted here repeatedly.

I think every South African has envy problem or medical condition of constant memory loss
.

1. Please post confirmed SIPRI imports only

2. Why would we be jealous of imported cold war relics?