agaugust:


Photos of less than 10 weak old men near retirement? 10 men out of 50,000 South African army of today? Prove that those men really fought in bush war, only 4,000 SADF men went to battle in Angola, a whole 18,000 SADF men sat down at home sleeping with their wives.

Those men in photo may even be military cook/chef like @Andrewza or administrative staff like @Fighter Pilot.

In future, @Andrewza and @Fighter Pilots photos will be posted by some fraudulent South Africans as experienced old soldiers who fought in Congo DRC and C.A.R Bangui...

We all know the two men were busy at home browsing Nairaland without ever firing one bullet from a rifle to kill one cockroach.

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4000 men who were rotated every year and mainly composed of conscripts.

So, the war lasted about 25 years.

with 4000 men rotating through the theater on average every year.

This means that approximately 100,000 SADF personnel served on the border. Now reduce that number by about 1/3 (for members of the permanent force who did multiple tours) and what do you get?

This number is also excluding the surges for major operations during the dry season (as much as 20 000 for some periods) and it also excludes members from SAPS who did internal COIN ops in Nothern Namibia as well as SADF personnel serving in the Namibian Army, as well as BSAP members who served in Rhodesia

Lol, you claim to be an accountant but you are unable to do basic arithmetic.

agaugust:

Show us a direct war report from Seleka authorities that they raised white flag, no big rebel force in Africa since 30 years ago has ever raised white flag, even Mali rebels did not raise white flags to mighty France .

Show us proof, NOT a story told by South Africans, show us Seleka's directly reported side of the story from their own rebel source.

1,500 men will not surrender to 250 men that invaded their homeland, not in Africa of today. Even M23 rebels have not raised any white flag to a global UN mighty force that is 100 times more powerful than M23 rebels.

Show us proof of your false claim

Despite being outnumbered these SANDF members managed to stand their ground, inflicted many casualties on the opposing forces until the attackers surrendered and initiated cease fire which led to a truce.
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=368674&sn=Detail&pid=71616

After the battle a truce was agreed.
“The rebels came with a white flag – if someone is carrying a white flag you cannot shoot them,” he said.
http://www.dispatchlive.co.za/news/general-describes-sa-battle/

Briefly-captured soldiers reported seeing a warehouse full of bodies soon after the battle. By its end, the paratroopers and Special Forces involved in the Battle of Bangui had fought overwhelming numbers and not only survived, but effectively brought Seleka to the point where the only feasible way of continuing on to the presidential palace was through negotiating a truce with SANDF commanders on the ground.
http://www.africandefence.net/five-things-you-never-knew-about-the-south-african-military/

He added that South African troops had agreed to a truce with the rebels after the battle.
"There is a relative truce for them. They are in position. They cannot run away or walk away," Shoke said.
"It is worth mentioning that the rebels apologised for having exchanged fire with the members of the SANDF and indicated that they regretted that this had transpired,” Shoke said.
http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2013-03-26-the-high-cost-of-car-bravado-13-dead-28-injured-and-one-missing/#.U8P6W_mSzpw

But the force retained its cohesion throughout and was able to fall back from two separate engagement areas to its base and to hold it until their attackers gave up trying to overrun them, offering, instead, a ceasefire and disengagement.
http://mampoer.co.za/helmoed-heitman/the-battle-in-bangui

You were saying?

agaugust:

Olodo, you call Boko Haram cowards? They do S.uicide B.ombing and k.ill themselves with the target, Boko Haram is braver than the whole South African armed forces combined.

Lost 200 girls kidnapped, well we know where they are held. We are just too smart to use force to free them. We will use Israeli tactics....slow but smart is the name of the game in hostage drama. How well did Kenyan army special forces perform in Nairobi shopping mall hostage crisis? Yet the failed Kenyan army is still more experienced in battle than today's South African army, all we read is past glory of long dead Recces of old apartheid SADF....nation of cowards as at today

Blah!! Blah!!! Blah!! You are talking too much. Innocent girls have their legs spread apart like in p.orn movies every bl.oody Night and you come here to tell us that you're too smart to use force. I wonder how many of them are already pregnant as a result. Surely, if it was Jonathan's daughter something would have been done even more faster than a lightning. Do you see why is it not a pride to become Nigerian?

MikeZA: Shekau is still live...

...inside South Africa.

[size=16pt] it is not a secret that more than 3000 Seleka rebels surrendered to 200 South African men. They threw in the towel after realising that they lost more than 800 men and still others were being killed. South African troops used better technology than Seleka rebels. The multiple grenade launcher played a meaningful role by making a rain of terror on the part of insurgents resulting in terrific casualty rate.[/size]

agaugust: ...inside South Africa.

Nope, he is somewhere in Nigeria enjoying himself because your weak army fear him like God.

[size=16pt] One South African soldier's life is worth hundred of Nigerian soldiers. No wonder the media makes noise when only fifteen (15) SA soldiers lose their lives in action. That incident is unusual and odd that SA soldier's life is taken in the line of fire. Ever since my childhood I was taught that SA military has a record in the world of keeping only low casualty rate as compared to their enemies in any battle. It takes sweat out of men just to knock down one SA soldier. Their tradition stand that one(1) SA soldier= one(1) taxi/minibus.[/size]

SANDF faces funding crisis


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

Johannesburg daily The Times reported defence secretary Sam Gulube as saying a R1.1 billion budget shortfall could compel the SANDF into large-scale retrenchments and compulsory early retirement in order to survive and pay salaries.

The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions.

Gulube was speaking after briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee.

The defence force's descent into crisis was slammed by the SA National Defence Union (Sandu) and a defence analyst said the proposed cost-saving measures would degrade the SANDF - already "catatonic" - even more.Gulube said the Department of Defence was unable to fill 4 000 posts because of insufficient funding.

Various options were being considered, he said, including cutting employees and extending working hours between now and March 2015.

"We hope that for the next financial year we will be covered.

"For the remuneration of employees, we are about R1.1 billion short. By the end of this year, I will have to balance these books.

"When posts are vacant we don't fill them. We encourage people to take voluntary exit mechanisms. We are looking at the attrition rate. The number of people who retire or die in service will be about 2 000 annually."

The shortfall means soldiers are being deployed for longer on foreign missions to cut down on stand-by shifts at home bases.

David Maynier, Democratic Alliance MP and defence portfolio committee member, said the Department of Defence was spending more than half of its budget of about R43 billion on personnel-related costs.

"The army alone has a R13.8 billion budget, of which R9.5 billion went to pay soldiers and staff. Less than one percent went to payment for capital assets such as vehicles."

Maynier said ideally about 40% of a budget should be spent on pay and benefits and the rest split equally between operations and capital acquisitions.

"The defence force needs to downsize to reduce expenditure on personnel so that it can properly fund operations and acquisitions."
read more

Nothing suprising in the report. Not like we expected the AIDS carrying SANDF to perform any better.

Henry120: SANDF faces funding crisis


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

Johannesburg daily The Times reported defence secretary Sam Gulube as saying a R1.1 billion budget shortfall could compel the SANDF into large-scale retrenchments and compulsory early retirement in order to survive and pay salaries.

The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions.

Gulube was speaking after briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee.

The defence force's descent into crisis was slammed by the SA National Defence Union (Sandu) and a defence analyst said the proposed cost-saving measures would degrade the SANDF - already "catatonic" - even more.Gulube said the Department of Defence was unable to fill 4 000 posts because of insufficient funding.

Various options were being considered, he said, including cutting employees and extending working hours between now and March 2015.

"We hope that for the next financial year we will be covered.

"For the remuneration of employees, we are about R1.1 billion short. By the end of this year, I will have to balance these books.

"When posts are vacant we don't fill them. We encourage people to take voluntary exit mechanisms. We are looking at the attrition rate. The number of people who retire or die in service will be about 2 000 annually."

The shortfall means soldiers are being deployed for longer on foreign missions to cut down on stand-by shifts at home bases.

David Maynier, Democratic Alliance MP and defence portfolio committee member, said the Department of Defence was spending more than half of its budget of about R43 billion on personnel-related costs.

"The army alone has a R13.8 billion budget, of which R9.5 billion went to pay soldiers and staff. Less than one percent went to payment for capital assets such as vehicles."

Maynier said ideally about 40% of a budget should be spent on pay and benefits and the rest split equally between operations and capital acquisitions.

"The defence force needs to downsize to reduce expenditure on personnel so that it can properly fund operations and acquisitions."
read more

That is a lie my friend, the military is not sending anyone away. I watched the parliament channel and rather they have vowed to explore other measures of extending the duration of deployments of troops to one full year until they recover the budget.

Henry120: Nothing suprising in the report. Not like we expected the AIDS carrying SANDF to perform any better.

[size=16pt]Nigeria is the second in that regard and who knows they have already taken the title since WHO last complained that the citizens of Nigeria are scared of taking routined test to check their status. They have the largest population of HIV+ infants in the world. Google it!!!! [/size]

agaugust: ...inside South Africa.

Yes,BH call Sambisa forest "South Africa".

Henry120: Nothing suprising in the report. Not like we expected the AIDS carrying SANDF to perform any better.

2014 Defence review=Answer. How many soldiers does Nigeria lose each week? The "Hilux army" is weak and ill equipped. Even Koevoet went on patrols with Casspir APCs.

MikeZA: Yes,BH call Sambisa forest "South Africa".

Yes you are correct my brother, the evil in Sambisa forest is same as you have in South African society.

Henry120: SANDF faces funding crisis


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

Johannesburg daily The Times reported defence secretary Sam Gulube as saying a R1.1 billion budget shortfall could compel the SANDF into large-scale retrenchments and compulsory early retirement in order to survive and pay salaries.

The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions.

Gulube was speaking after briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee.

The defence force's descent into crisis was slammed by the SA National Defence Union (Sandu) and a defence analyst said the proposed cost-saving measures would degrade the SANDF - already "catatonic" - even more.Gulube said the Department of Defence was unable to fill 4 000 posts because of insufficient funding.

Various options were being considered, he said, including cutting employees and extending working hours between now and March 2015.

"We hope that for the next financial year we will be covered.

"For the remuneration of employees, we are about R1.1 billion short. By the end of this year, I will have to balance these books.

"When posts are vacant we don't fill them. We encourage people to take voluntary exit mechanisms. We are looking at the attrition rate. The number of people who retire or die in service will be about 2 000 annually."

The shortfall means soldiers are being deployed for longer on foreign missions to cut down on stand-by shifts at home bases.

David Maynier, Democratic Alliance MP and defence portfolio committee member, said the Department of Defence was spending more than half of its budget of about R43 billion on personnel-related costs.

"The army alone has a R13.8 billion budget, of which R9.5 billion went to pay soldiers and staff. Less than one percent went to payment for capital assets such as vehicles."

Maynier said ideally about 40% of a budget should be spent on pay and benefits and the rest split equally between operations and capital acquisitions.

"The defence force needs to downsize to reduce expenditure on personnel so that it can properly fund operations and acquisitions."
read more

Been discussed allready

Defense Review has been worked on since 2012 for this very reason.

South Africa is not Nigeria, you cannot just randomly double the budget (and expect parliament to allow it to happen) unless you have a complex, well thought out and well presented plan.

We arent ad hoc like nigeria

And remeber, the SANDF is underfunded by South African standards in Nigeria everything would be fine. We place 1st world standards on our military, with 1st world expectations... these expectations are expensive.

If we were deploying men with rusty AK's and an old hilux bakkie, there wouldent be a problem now would there?

agaugust: Yes you are correct my brother, the evil in Sambisa forest is same as you have in South African society.

Last time a checked South Africans werent stealing 200 girls and genociding villages

Msauza:

Innocent girls have their legs spread apart like in p.orn movies every bl.oody Night

You have a dirty mind @Msauza !

Msauza:

[size=16pt] You Nigerian are fools of the century, even apes and chimpazees behave rather better than you. I regret of ever having Nigerian blood in my veins, if need be I would wash that gene away from my blood. Nigeria is a disgrace in Africa. Damn! [/size]

[size=16pt]....but you work so hard looking for a Nigerian girl to marry you....shameless

Msauza:

Drop your number and stop judging, the train wiLl pass you by.

https://www.nairaland.com/1059880/looking-nigerian-chick

[/size]

patches689:

4000 men who were rotated every year and mainly composed of conscripts.

So, the war lasted about 25 years.

with 4000 men rotating through the theater on average every year.

This means that approximately 100,000 SADF personnel served on the border. Now reduce that number by about 1/3 (for members of the permanent force who did multiple tours) and what do you get?

This number is also excluding the surges for major operations during the dry season (as much as 20 000 for some periods) and it also excludes members from SAPS who did internal COIN ops in Nothern Namibia as well as SADF personnel serving in the Namibian Army, as well as BSAP members who served in Rhodesia

Lol, you claim to be an accountant but you are unable to do basic arithmetic.

Dude, I don't want to invest my time on you, but eat this gravel before I box you into a garbage bin....

Troops rotation, there is NO proof that South Africa rotated troops in Angola, all we read is propaganda that the apartheid regime published for the fools of this world to read and get confused. If at all SADF ever rotated troops, how comprehensive was it? It was not a UN peace keeping mission, so no world rules compel SADF to rotate soldiers.

Then SADF had serious manpower shortage and lacks soldiers, reason why Angolans/Namibians/Rhodesian/American/British men in thousands joined South African army to help reduce the grave effect of manpower shortage.

SADF of apartheid era NEVER and NEVER had 100,000 soldiers in its army ! For where ! Which army ? How many combatants were in old SADF army? Many were non-combatants too, cook/chef/musicians/accountants/administration/education/etc.

Rotation can be done with only 8,000 soldiers. Batch A of 4,000 men serve 6 months, Batch B of 4,000 men replace them. Batch A rests 6 months vacation. Then Batch A goes back again to relieve Batch B and vice versa.

Nigeria had 15,000 soldiers in ECOMOG, if we rotate with your foolish arithmetic that assumes combatant soldiers are endless in number, then from 1992 to 2002 Nigerian army deployed over 300,000 combatant soldiers fighting in those wars out of an army of 80,000 men.

How do you pick 300,000 men out of 80,000 ? You must be the worst mathematician in history. Fool !

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Henry120: SANDF faces funding crisis


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

Johannesburg daily The Times reported defence secretary Sam Gulube as saying a R1.1 billion budget shortfall could compel the SANDF into large-scale retrenchments and compulsory early retirement in order to survive and pay salaries.

The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions.

Gulube was speaking after briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee.

The defence force's descent into crisis was slammed by the SA National Defence Union (Sandu) and a defence analyst said the proposed cost-saving measures would degrade the SANDF - already "catatonic" - even more.Gulube said the Department of Defence was unable to fill 4 000 posts because of insufficient funding.

Various options were being considered, he said, including cutting employees and extending working hours between now and March 2015.

"We hope that for the next financial year we will be covered.

"For the remuneration of employees, we are about R1.1 billion short. By the end of this year, I will have to balance these books.

"When posts are vacant we don't fill them. We encourage people to take voluntary exit mechanisms. We are looking at the attrition rate. The number of people who retire or die in service will be about 2 000 annually."

The shortfall means soldiers are being deployed for longer on foreign missions to cut down on stand-by shifts at home bases.

David Maynier, Democratic Alliance MP and defence portfolio committee member, said the Department of Defence was spending more than half of its budget of about R43 billion on personnel-related costs.

"The army alone has a R13.8 billion budget, of which R9.5 billion went to pay soldiers and staff. Less than one percent went to payment for capital assets such as vehicles."

Maynier said ideally about 40% of a budget should be spent on pay and benefits and the rest split equally between operations and capital acquisitions.

"The defence force needs to downsize to reduce expenditure on personnel so that it can properly fund operations and acquisitions."
read more

Goodbye to Badger IFV

Goodbye to Umkhonto 20km range

Goodbye to GBADS ground based air defense systems

Goodbye to imaginary Gowind OPV, impossible Leopard Tanks....dreams dreams

Goodbye to Long range missiles

Goodbye to Project Biro

Goodbye to A-darta missile

Goodbye to Every new major equipment SANDF dreamed of....your MRAPS below has no tyres..Goodbye

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patches689:

Despite being outnumbered these SANDF members managed to stand their ground, inflicted many casualties on the opposing forces until the attackers surrendered and initiated cease fire which led to a truce.
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71654?oid=368674&sn=Detail&pid=71616

Is that a source directly from Seleka high command ? You failed English comprehension in school. Ode

Below is a source quoting Seleka commnader...


[size=14pt]New Source : Seleka k.illed over 36 SANDF and captured many prisoners...

....now we Know South African army raised the white flag...[/size]

RFI’s special envoy in Bangui spoke to a source who says he was present at the French military base near Bangui where he saw more than 50 body bags being loaded onto a Hercules C130 aircraft sent by Pretoria. He said other bodies were arriving as the 50 were being loaded on to the plane.

The source wishes to remain anonymous.
[size=14pt]
General Arda Hakouma, who led the Seleka rebel coalition operation to capture Bangui, insists more South Africans were among the soldiers he killed.

"What is certain, I personally, General Arda Hakouma Seleka Chief of Staff, Chief Of Operations, so I am the one who directed the battle, I saw 36 South African dead and 22 wounded. That’s for sure, and there were prisoners too, we handed them over to Fomac [The regional African peacekeeping force for CAR]," he said .

http://www.english.rfi.fr/africa/20130404-witness-saw-over-50-bodybags-heading-south-africa-amid-allegations-involving-zumas-n

PHOTO : SELEKA EYE-WITNESS COMMANDER....General Arda Hakouma[/size]

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agaugust:

[size=16pt]....but you work so hard looking for a Nigerian girl to marry you....shameless



https://www.nairaland.com/1059880/looking-nigerian-chick

[/size]

The boy na proper goat.

agaugust:

Goodbye to Badger IFV

Goodbye to Umkhonto 20km range

Goodbye to GBADS ground based air defense systems

Goodbye to imaginary Gowind OPV, impossible Leopard Tanks....dreams dreams

Goodbye to Long range missiles

Goodbye to Project Biro

Goodbye to A-darta missile

Goodbye to Every new major equipment SANDF dreamed of....your MRAPS below has no tyres..Goodbye

.

I love it when they day-dream. It's particularly comic to see and read. Especially when the multiple delusions come from patches.

patches689:

Been discussed allready

Defense Review has been worked on since 2012 for this very reason.

South Africa is not Nigeria, you cannot just randomly double the budget (and expect parliament to allow it to happen) unless you have a complex, well thought out and well presented plan.

We arent ad hoc like nigeria

And remeber, the SANDF is underfunded by South African standards in Nigeria everything would be fine. We place 1st world standards on our military, with 1st world expectations... these expectations are expensive.

If we were deploying men with rusty AK's and an old hilux bakkie, there wouldent be a problem now would there?

How is this fine,

" Less than one percent went to payment for capital assets such as vehicles."

I love it when you daydream. It's just like watching "Basketmouth uncensored". What a comic relief.




When you're done lying to yourself, read the below.

patches689:


Last time a checked South Africans werent stealing 200 girls and genociding villages

In your case, you're genociding white farmers in their farms.


Not like I expected better from you Aids carriers.

patches689:

Been discussed allready

Defense Review has been worked on since 2012 for this very reason.

South Africa is not Nigeria, you cannot just randomly double the budget (and expect parliament to allow it to happen) unless you have a complex, well thought out and well presented plan.

We arent ad hoc like nigeria

And remeber, the SANDF is underfunded by South African standards in Nigeria everything would be fine. We place 1st world standards on our military, with 1st world expectations... these expectations are expensive.

If we were deploying men with rusty AK's and an old hilux bakkie, there wouldent be a problem now would there?

SANDF faces funding crisis


The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a "catastrophic" multi-billion-Rand financial crisis that could force mass retrenchments and the indefinite postponement of the acquisition of essential equipment.

Johannesburg daily The Times reported defence secretary Sam Gulube as saying a R1.1 billion budget shortfall could compel the SANDF into large-scale retrenchments and compulsory early retirement in order to survive and pay salaries.

The budget shortfall also meant the SANDF would have to cut operations and acquisitions.

Gulube was speaking after briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee.

The defence force's descent into crisis was slammed by the SA National Defence Union (Sandu) and a defence analyst said the proposed cost-saving measures would degrade the SANDF - already "catatonic" - even more.Gulube said the Department of Defence was unable to fill 4 000 posts because of insufficient funding.

Various options were being considered, he said, including cutting employees and extending working hours between now and March 2015.

"We hope that for the next financial year we will be covered.

"For the remuneration of employees, we are about R1.1 billion short. By the end of this year, I will have to balance these books.

"When posts are vacant we don't fill them. We encourage people to take voluntary exit mechanisms. We are looking at the attrition rate. The number of people who retire or die in service will be about 2 000 annually."

The shortfall means soldiers are being deployed for longer on foreign missions to cut down on stand-by shifts at home bases.

David Maynier, Democratic Alliance MP and defence portfolio committee member, said the Department of Defence was spending more than half of its budget of about R43 billion on personnel-related costs.

"The army alone has a R13.8 billion budget, of which R9.5 billion went to pay soldiers and staff. Less than one percent went to payment for capital assets such as vehicles."

Maynier said ideally about 40% of a budget should be spent on pay and benefits and the rest split equally between operations and capital acquisitions.

"The defence force needs to downsize to reduce expenditure on personnel so that it can properly fund operations and acquisitions."
read more

MikeZA: 2014 Defence review=Answer. How many soldiers does Nigeria lose each week? The "Hilux army" is weak and ill equipped. Even Koevoet went on patrols with Casspir APCs.

Boy, stop day-dreaming. You got no money. 90% of your military budget goes to paying personnel.

Would you use your teeth to fund your defence review?


We never lacked APCs or MRAPs. We got hundreds of them.


However in your case your HIV defence force is an executive transport for ANC Bigwigs and your military is a retirement home.






"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"
. Lol.... The SANDF is a retirement home.


"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews – hence 12 mothballed Gripen aircraft – or because it can’t afford the running costs."



"The air force, for example, has been reduced to being a flying limousine service for African National Congress politicians"



" However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

Msauza: [size=16pt] One South African soldier's life is worth hundred of Nigerian soldiers. No wonder the media makes noise when only fifteen (15) SA soldiers lose their lives in action. That incident is unusual and odd that SA soldier's life is taken in the line of fire. Ever since my childhood I was taught that SA military has a record in the world of keeping only low casualty rate as compared to their enemies in any battle. It takes sweat out of men just to knock down one SA soldier. Their tradition stand that one(1) SA soldier= one(1) taxi/minibus.[/size]

Peanut brain. Your blood is boiling hot under your skin! Keep convulsing!

agaugust:

Is that a source directly from Seleka high command ? You failed English comprehension in school. Ode

Below is a source quoting Seleka commnader...


[size=14pt]New Source : Seleka k.illed over 36 SANDF and captured many prisoners...

....now we Know South African army raised the white flag...[/size]

RFI’s special envoy in Bangui spoke to a source who says he was present at the French military base near Bangui where he saw more than 50 body bags being loaded onto a Hercules C130 aircraft sent by Pretoria. He said other bodies were arriving as the 50 were being loaded on to the plane.

The source wishes to remain anonymous.
[size=14pt]
General Arda Hakouma, who led the Seleka rebel coalition operation to capture Bangui, insists more South Africans were among the soldiers he killed.

"What is certain, I personally, General Arda Hakouma Seleka Chief of Staff, Chief Of Operations, so I am the one who directed the battle, I saw 36 South African dead and 22 wounded. That’s for sure, and there were prisoners too, we handed them over to Fomac [The regional African peacekeeping force for CAR]," he said .

http://www.english.rfi.fr/africa/20130404-witness-saw-over-50-bodybags-heading-south-africa-amid-allegations-involving-zumas-n

PHOTO : SELEKA EYE-WITNESS COMMANDER....General Arda Hakouma[/size]

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[size=16pt] The commander of the now defunct Seleka rebels is a LOSER!!!. He raised a white flag and the whole world know about that. He lost more than 800 men according to reports by Doctors Without Borders and various sources. A LOSER remain a LOSER. CAR is not even under their rule. [/size]

Henry120:

Boy, stop day-dreaming. You got no money. 90% of your military budget goes to paying personnel.

Would you use your teeth to fund your defence review?


We never lacked APCs or MRAPs. We got hundreds of them.


However in your case your HIV defence force is an executive transport for ANC Bigwigs and your military is a retirement home.






"the 2012 Defence Review, says the SANDF is “critically deficient in the skill, motivation, and ethos that is required to operate"


"South Africa has the oldest infantry troops in the world"
. Lol.... The SANDF is a retirement home.


"Unfortunately, the SANDF is already sitting with an array of expensive hardware that it cannot deploy, either because it lacks the skilled crews – hence 12 mothballed Gripen aircraft – or because it can’t afford the running costs."



"The air force, for example, has been reduced to being a flying limousine service for African National Congress politicians"



" However, it’s a fact that while the SAAF’s helicopter squadrons receive a generous allocation for VIP flights – last year the Durban-based 15 Squadron got 300 hours flying time to ferry the Zuma entourage to and from Nkandla – they get very little for training and nothing at all for sea and mountain rescue."

[size=16pt] Nigeria has zero equipment, why would they use Hiluxes if they had hundreds of hard skinned military vehicles. Do you see why do I always say once a monkey always a monkey.[/size]

NaijaPikinGidi:

Peanut brain. Your blood is boiling hot under your skin! Keep convulsing!

[size=16pt]Shame of being a Nigerian and I will do whatever is possible to wash away that curse of a gene in my blood if need be and remain with my only sound SA gene.it is indeed a curse to be born a Nigerian.[/size]

Henry120:

In your case, you're genociding white farmers in their farms.


Not like I expected better from you Aids carriers.

[size=16pt]Once a monkey always a monkey. A black pot calling a kettle black. Nigerian are as well Aids carriers as much as South Africans and their case is even worse since they do not do voluntary routined HIV tests like millions of South Africans. SA has many non-governmental organisations that encourage citizens to do voluntary testing and counselling and have programmes in place to deal with the scourge of HIV through ARV. Unlike in Nigeria where there is hardly nothing on the table to deal with HIV.

However, let me remind you that Nigeria is a home to high number of infants infected with HIV in the world.[/size]

http://m.premiumtimesng.com/news/139706-alarming-nigeria-leads-the-world-in-number-of-children-contacting-hiv-un-report.html