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Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Sunymoore(m): 7:13pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
KingGBsky:Yeah.. Most northern States.. 95% of Northwest.. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Dirkcoyt: 7:15pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
ballerin: how is saraki a blockade |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 7:16pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Chidexter: Of course it has to be by violence! Go and ask Southern Kaduna people how they broke out of the strangling grip of Zaria emirate. Millions of Southern Kaduna christians have been ruled from Zaria and all their local chiefs, village head and traditional rulers were fulani muslims sent from Zaria. What do you think caused the 1992 Zangon kataf crisis where the whole town was burnt to the ground and thousands of people died? Go and ask Sayawa people (Hon Yakubu Dogara's tribe) of Bauchi south how they broke out of Bauchi emirate. They had to organize an ethnic cleansing and chased/kill all the fulanis away from Tafawa balewa town, till today, there is no mosque in that town! If not for that, you could imagine how fulanis were dominating Sayawa christians in their own ancestral land. It had to take series of crisis and bloodshed. In Adamawa too, one tribe (Michika LGA) have also pulled out of fulani rule, but the fulani dominated state have refused to recognize it. See how they did it, when the current fulani king died. The fulani emirate in Mubi was about to send another king, the locals ambushed the coming king, chased them back to Mubi and forcefully crowned their own as king. Killing every fulani left behind. Now they are no longer under fulani rule. However, dozens of other tribes in Adamawa, in Borno south and Yobe, and even some in Taraba still remain under fulani rule. Why do you think the fulanis have been fighting Bachama people in Adamawa recently? Bachama people are the only people in Adamawa who were never under fulani rule, hence the only threat to absolute Fulani domination in Adamawa. Fulanis can do anything they like and go free all over Adamawa state, but not in the 5 LGAs of Bachama and neighbouring peoples. I pity that foolish old man who thinks they can overthrow a full emirate without crisis. Infact, theirs would need to be a full scale war, because unlike northern minorities who were only breaking away from the emirates, these ones want to overthrow a full blown emirate. I wonder why most yorubas just like to deceive themselves. Cc laydoh, TheKingIsHere, sasalite, ZorGBUooeh ballerin: Story for the gods, read what I wrote above. 17 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Pecca: 7:16pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Same way Awusa feefle are hoping to enthrone an all-in-all Seriki abi Sarriki in Kano and Sokoto. I de laugh!! 2 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Sunymoore(m): 7:19pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
ceragon123:We the at the top and bottom regarding your Hausa line, for the initiated 2 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ballerin(m): 7:20pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
HomeOfMe:You can always locate historical accounts from the archive.. that's your surest bet. There was an ugly incidence as recently as three months ago whereby a certain guest was recounting the Asaba massacre during the civil war & the need for Nigerians to honour the victims as a means of bonding. Moments after a short break, a call came in from the NBC asking that the show be discontinued with immediate effect. If such a lesson could be banished on the media, how much less a school curriculum. Some people from a part of the country are dead scared of history being taught in our schools. 3 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Sunymoore(m): 7:22pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Nowenuse:You're knowledgeable my brother.. I'm from one of the states you made mentioned of, and that's what's up.. 8 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by 6UEE: 7:27pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
laydoh:Ok, I now get it. You got your religion from a devil. 1 Like |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by KingGBsky(m): 7:27pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Sunymoore: Wow...and to think that this Fulanis are not Nigerians in the first place. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ayoxelee(m): 7:28pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
ballerin:see this mumu..... An average Ilorin man will prefer to b addressed as a Fulani man than being addressed as a Yoruba man.... So dnt just come n open ur mouth on NL |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by femi4: 7:29pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
dlondonbadboy:In fact, there is no Oba in Ilorin 1 Like |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Sunymoore(m): 7:30pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
KingGBsky:Yeah.. Tho everybody comes from somewhere at a given time 2 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 7:32pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
scholes0: Gbam! Taraba is a pure middlebelt state. The divide and rule people knew what they were doing when they took Taraba to the north-east. Niger state was part of the old northwest state together with Sokoto and Zamfara. So, during this period and even before, so many hausas became integral parts of Niger state and heavily influenced them. Niger north (Kainji axis) and Niger east used to be slightly dominated by Kainji speaking and Gbagyi christians, but the story has changed today. The state is heavily hausanized. These are the reasons why we have to wake up. Hausanization and pro caliphate domination is now taking over Nasarawa state gradually. If Nasarawa had still remained part of Plateau, this nonsense would not have happened! 6 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ZorGBUooeh: 7:33pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Nowenuse: Well said 3 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ceragon123: 7:36pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
ballerin: True. Some people are so scared of history. Prof Chinua Achebe asserted that history is an important tool that can grant channels for forgiveness and closure. People need to recount history correctly so we can face our deepest fears, ask for forgiveness and move along. 4 Likes |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by LZAA: 7:38pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Crocky23:but but NL goblins told us afonja stood like a hero and fought na so why the need for oba in a fulani emirate?? sarrki and alariiwo right now 1 Like
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Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ceragon123: 7:39pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
femi4:For real? |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by LZAA: 7:43pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Crocky23: abeg who get dis guy w#$d dealer number? 1 Like |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ballerin(m): 7:44pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Nowenuse:You're not further from the truth.. A lot of tensions & resentments are brewing in the North. Likewise the Kanuris have grown tired of the Fulanis. At a point in history, the people of Ilorin rebelled & chased away a sitting emir back to sokoto but was restored through the intervention of the British. The Afonja ruling house is still a part of the highest making decision body in Ilorin emirate which explains why they are a bit laid back. Other areas of the North you mentioned were being totally overlord by the Fulani's dynasty which is a different situation to the Afonjas who are being accorded a special recognition in Ilorin. Nonetheless, Fulani's fang must be broken. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nobody: 7:45pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Learnt a lot today. Oga Seun please be pushing these threads to front page. Front what I have read, these Fulani are the master planners of Nigeria. Reduced Osibanjo to a spectacular, Ridiculing Ortom who is burning his dead.. The South and Middle belt need to do something fast.. And yes it would bring blood shed, you can't have freedom workout blood... 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by scholes0(m): 7:46pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Nowenuse: Spot on about Nasarawa. The state name isn't helping matters. Name of capital sef na Lafia. Keffi, Akwanga, Even Karu's traditional leader Dr Emmanuel Yepwi is now calling himself as an Emir, and prefers to be addressed as such. It's so sad really.. State governor , Tanko Al-Makura. In addition the Hausa-Fulanis are becoming (or have become sef) the major power brokers in the state. I thin Nassarawa's case is too late sef. Only those suburbs closer to the Abuja metro are safe due to the heavy presence of other nigerians who have made those places home. It is also funny, that some people on this thread think it is only towns conquered before the British came to colonize Nigeria that have the shame of being "Fulani slaves", when the whole process of Northernization hasn't even ended / concluded yet. It is still ONGOING, and some people are laughing. Ebiras and Barubas who claim to to have never been conquered by the caliphate, today what is the difference between them and those who were under the caliphate? Are Yahaya Bello and the so called Ohis (Ohimege, Ohinoyi, and the rest) not proper textbook Fulani slaves? lol! That's why I just laugh. These people have been conquered as well, more or less. After Nassarawa is complete, Benue and Taraba are Next. Jalingo and Benue North (the part above the river) will be the launchpads. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 7:50pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
KingGBsky: Fulanis are kings over all Hausa areas (the entire northwest apart from Southern Kaduna). They used to be kings in southern kaduna as well, until the southern kaduna christian tribes united and broke away from fulani rule, now they have their own traditional rulers. As for the north-east, historically, the fulani army who also used hausa foot soldiers to attack and conquer Bauchi, parts of Adamawa, Yobe, Gombe and even Taraba. So, the fulanis rule the entire north east too, except for the Kanuris of Borno and the Bachama and other tribes of Numan confederation in Adamawa. The people of Southern Gombe (who are christians) also resisted Fulani rule and have their own kings. While a particular tribe in Bauchi south also resisted fulani rule too and now have their own king. Taraba is one north-east state where the majority are not ruled by fulani. The Jukun kingdom of Wukari was great and were never defeated by fulanis. However, fulanis still rule a large chunk of Taraba, but they are heavily opposed and undermined there, since Taraba is a christian majority and christian ruled state. So, fulanis rule at least 50-60% of the north-east. In the north-central, fulanis only dominate in Niger and Kwara state (Ilorin). They rule the entire state as long as am concerned. Although many Nupes and Gwaris will argue that their emirs are not fulanis, however, all Emirs are subject to the fulani Sokoto caliphate, so it makes no difference. Benue state has no business with fulani rule or emirate. Kogi state too, however, that can be argued, since the Maigari of Lokoja is traditionally under the Emir of Bida in Niger state. So Bida controls Lokoja (although just sone part of it). There are emirates in Nasarawa,FCT & Plateau, but they are in a minority. So, we can say at least 25% of north-central is ruled by fulanis. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by LZAA: 7:52pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
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Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Nowenuse: 7:54pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
ayoxelee: Those ones are fulanis or partly fulanis or hausas or nupe by ancestry. Don't be deceived by the fact that they speak yoruba or have yoruba names. They are bot of yoruba origin. The pure yorubas of Afonja lineage will never claim to be fulani or accept the tag 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ceragon123: 7:56pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Nowenuse: God bless you. On Tuesday, as PMB was all smiles while thousand of Tivs were running for their lives. It was a painful scene as they walked miles with their loads on their heads to open spaces like markets and schools along Obi-Adudu-Awe road where big trucks was moving them to parts Of benue. The cattles will enjoy now but prices for food will become high. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Adebowale89(m): 7:57pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
dlondonbadboy: small sense you know get, you lack comprehension that's if at all you read the article. what am I even saying will u read the article and come back to ask baby class QST Yoruba lost Ilorin due to the traditional political disagreement btw the king of Oyo empire then and afonja and their over accommodating led them to loose the Royal control the man said Fulani don't forgive, like say Igbo do forgive too. no other region would tolerate any region settlement again after what befall them in the past but here are still many igbos running down to southwest for settlement and doing eze ndigbo in another's man land if you don't even like that region, respect them for over tolerating and heart of forgiveness. as bad as Igbo tagged Muslim, I still feel safe with Yoruba Muslim than the unforgivable igbos 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ceragon123: 7:59pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Nowenuse: God bless you. On Tuesday, as PMB was all smiles while thousand of Tivs were running for their lives. It was a painful scene as they walked miles with their loads on their heads to open spaces like markets and schools along Obi-Adudu-Awe road where big trucks was moving them to parts Of benue. The cattles will enjoy now but prices for food will become high. |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Topmaike007(m): 7:59pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
this history is awesome |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ballerin(m): 7:59pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
ayoxelee:You're daft. Religious correctness is a mere charade, a tool to corrupt the tribal identity of the people just as the case of Hausa/Fulani bullshit. A Yoruba is a Yoruba while a Fulani is a Fulani no matter the religion. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by ballerin(m): 8:07pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
Dirkcoyt:Ilorin is saraki's estate. He is Yoruba but pledges allegiance to Fulani Muslims for cheap political gains. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by LagacyHills: 8:13pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
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Re: Plan To Install Yoruba Oba In Ilorin Not Over- Afonja Descendant by Firefire(m): 8:14pm On Feb 09, 2018 |
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