ballerin:
Ilorin is saraki's estate. He is Yoruba but pledges allegiance to Fulani Muslims for cheap political gains.

No, Saraki is not yoruba, he said in an interview that his father is a fulani that he is a fulani man, that they bear yoruba middle name because of their grandmother who is a yoruba woman, google it.

sasalite:


You misunderstand me, the Hausas are also in the same shoes with the Yorubas (they are both ruled by minority Fulanis). What am saying is the Hausas need to follow suit in this cause.

the case for illorin and the original hausa indigenes of the northwest and the rest of the north is CLOSED.
The fulani happened to be the smartest and politically adept people.
When they want to subdue an enemy,they do so completely.
They arrest political power by installing an emir.
They arrest religious power by being in complete control of the Islamic religion,the imams and sultans are the exclusive of the fulanis.
Then lastly they seize economic power by owning the lands which is the instrument of production.
This method was so potent that Ibrahim Shekarau was the first and only hausa to become kano state governor.

scholes0:


Spot on about Nasarawa.

The state name isn't helping matters. Name of capital sef na Lafia.

Keffi, Akwanga, Even Karu's traditional leader Dr Emmanuel Yepwi is now calling himself as an Emir, and prefers to be addressed as such.
It's so sad really..

State governor , Tanko Al-Makura.
In addition the Hausa-Fulanis are becoming (or have become sef) the major power brokers in the state.
I thin Nassarawa's case is too late sef. Only those suburbs closer to the Abuja metro are safe due to the heavy presence of other nigerians who have made those places home.

It is also funny, that some people on this thread think it is only towns conquered before the British came to colonize Nigeria that have the shame of being "Fulani slaves", when the whole process of Northernization hasn't even ended / concluded yet.

It is still ONGOING, and some people are laughing. Ebiras and Barubas who claim to to have never been conquered by the caliphate, today what is the difference between them and those who were under the caliphate? Are Yahaya Bello and the so called Ohis (Ohimege, Ohinoyi, and the rest) not proper textbook Fulani slaves? lol! That's why I just laugh. These people have been conquered as well, more or less.

After Nassarawa is complete, Benue and Taraba are Next. Jalingo and Benue North (the part above the river) will be the launchpads.

My brother. Eggon and Mada people made a very big mistake! They thought they were being dominated and marginalized in Plateau state, then they joined those wolves in sheep clothing (Kambari/Kanuri of Lafia) and others to agitate for their own state.
See where it has landedd them, let them produce the governor of Nasarawa state let us see na.

Immediately Nasarawa state was created, the Kanuri and hausa fulani emirate minorities joined forces with the tribal muslims to hijack the state. All the stake holders agreed that the capital of the state should be in Akwanga, only for Abacha to turn around overnight and carry the capital to Lafia (where his kanuri brothers are).

Eggon/Mada people were clearly deceived and manipulated. They thought they would get the capital in Akwanga.

To worsen the case in Nasarawa, the muslims have set the Eggon/mada christians in enimity against the other Christians in the state using tribalism. Aren't you surprised that Buhari has never won Nasarawa state? This is because when it comes to FG elections, all the christians in the state unite, but when it comes to state elections, they are divided along tribe.

Well, let's see how the next election will be, I hope the eyes of all Nasarawa christians will open this time around to see that they are being played. Governorship is to be zoned to Nasarawa north where the majority are christians (Eggon/mada people). Let's see how they will manipulate it this time around.


As for that Gbagyi king of Karu, I have never heard anything as such, but even if i did, I wouldn't be surprised! Gbagyi people have a slavish mentality and high inferiority. Can't you see how hausas are dominating them on their lands in Minna, Suleja and other parts of Niger east?

Gbagyi people are the reason why christians lost domination of Kaduna city. Infact, if not for other southern kaduna tribes who joined forces and have managed to influence the Gbagyis over there, it would have been a completely lost case.
Gbagyi christian political leaders used to support Hausa muslims in Kaduna state over southern kaduna people in the past. Not until Sharia 2001 crisis when thousands of the Gbagyis were killed by hausas, did they realize that hausas are the enemies and not their fellow Christians. It is just very sad. Gbagyi people act as if they are under a curse by hausas.
Anyway, let me stop here.

And you are very correct, if not for the proximity of Karu to Abuja, Karu would have been no different from Keffi, Toto and Nasarawa LGA where most of the gbagyi towns are now dominated by hausas. It is just very shameful.


As for the Ebiras and Barubas, take them serious at your own peril. Most of them are pro caliphate and are no different from nupes and even hausas to an extent. They are tools of the caliphate to destabilize the unique middlebelt identity and struggle.

dlondonbadboy:
Enlighten me people...Is a Yoruba oba not incharge of ilorin??

ilorin is a fulani town.... taken from the afonjas by thr fulani masters


no be today afonjas begin dobale for fulani's..


if u read d history described in the write up simple logic will tell u its concoted and lies...

imagine if ooni of ife die. the ife people will clamour for change of system. that will involve Igbo people contesting for yoruba throne...



oga interviewer and interviewee all na wash.....

we kno say ilorin throne was taken by force

engrchykae:
the case for illorin and the original hausa indigenes of the northwest and the rest of the north is CLOSED.
The fulani happened to be the smartest and politically adept people.
When they want to subdue an enemy,they do so completely.
They arrest political power by installing an emir.
They arrest religious power by being in complete control of the Islamic religion,the imams and sultans are the exclusive of the fulanis.
Then lastly they seize economic power by owning the lands which is the instrument of production.
This method was so potent that Ibrahim Shekarau was the first and only hausa to become kano state governor.

Stop that rubbish, only the case of hausas and Ilorin people is closed and perhaps some other northern tribes.

Fulanis will never capture Plateau, Benue, Nasarawa & Taraba. Same with Southern Kaduna. Very soon, I see them loosing Adamawa too. The christian tribes of Adamawa are gradually uniting. Their voices will soon be heard.

Kanuri people are also tired of fulanis, but Boko haram has made them a shadow of themselves and the belief in Islamic bondage is still a problem.

dlondonbadboy:


What are Yoruba youths doing about this? This is a taboo na...It's like having a fulani man in Imo state as our igwe...chaii! Aru!

Nwanne can u imagine,malam Suleiman kadiri the Obi of Onitcha? Tufiakwa alu!!!! Uwa ga gwu ubochi anwaa. Ara ana agba ha

Nowenure... You are sooo on point, am from southern kaduna. we were told that when our fathers were under zazzau(zaria) emirate, they MUST submit a parcentage of all their harvest(just like tithe) to the then emir of jema'a(kafanchan) who is directly under the emir of zazzau plus bundles of grasses(meant for roofing tatched houses) every year, they would trek from the lenth and breadth of southern kaduna to do so . they were literally slaves in the own land. THANK GOD FOR THAT GENERATION THAT FOUGHT FOR US, the Afonjas must get this, that for them to reclaim their throne, BLOOD MUST FLOW!

BigBrother9ja:
Proudly Yoruba but NEVER afonja.

every yoruba is modern day afonja

oluwazoba25:
now I no the real meaning of afonja

betrayer

obaataaokpaewu:
Reading this, I saw characteristics of Afonja. He will praise Fulani, he will curse Fulani. He will say things are OK now that Yoruba is majority, he will turn around and say another thing. He will say they wouldn't mind fighting to install oba, he will say another thing.

u dont kno this people

Odingo1:

No, Saraki is not yoruba, he said in an interview that his father is a fulani that he is a fulani man, that they bear yoruba middle name because of their grandmother who is a yoruba woman, google it.

Nonsense!
A Fulani man from which clan?
why did none of his children has no fulani name?
Why was he refused by the fulanis to be a member of the Arewa Consultative forum?
why was he rejected to contest as a presidential aspirant in favour of Sheu Shagari?
Think! Use your brain.....
political expediency.

Nowenuse:


Stop that rubbish, only the case of hausas and Ilorin people is closed and perhaps some other northern tribes.

Fulanis will never capture Plateau, Benue, Nasarawa & Taraba. Same with Southern Kaduna. Very soon, I see them loosing Adamawa too. The christian tribes of Adamawa are gradually uniting. Their voices will soon be heard.

Kanuri people are also tired of fulanis, but Boko haram has made them a shadow of themselves and the belief in Islamic bondage is still a problem.

plateau state case is somehow.
If fulani have a foothold,there is future problem.
The problem of the fulani in benue is the TIV.
The tiv is a question they don't know how to solve because benue were wise to refuse Islam.
The fulanis will still have their eyes on Benue since they have a long memory.
The outcomes will depend on whether the benue people of the future will forget who their real enemies are.
The original hausas of the northwest have been crushed.
How can they emancipate themselves when the fulani is the emir,the imams,the sultan and own the lands for agricultural purpose while the hausas are labourers,subjects and religious worshipers or adherends?

Nowenuse:


Stop that rubbish, only the case of hausas and Ilorin people is closed and perhaps some other northern tribes.

Fulanis will never capture Plateau, Benue, Nasarawa & Taraba. Same with Southern Kaduna. Very soon, I see them loosing Adamawa too. The christian tribes of Adamawa are gradually uniting. Their voices will soon be heard.

Kanuri people are also tired of fulanis, but Boko haram has made them a shadow of themselves and the belief in Islamic bondage is still a problem.

Ilorin is not a closed case. Are you aware there is already a case before the court, but as i said, Saraki is an obstacle course, he played a key role in stalling the case.
Did you read this interview intently?
Are you aware of the forces at play?

deji17:
But some of them have eboe names? How come? Some of them openly complained of slavery in Benue state and cried out for help busy body.

but yorubas said igbos only ve 5 South east states

ballerin:
Nonsense!
A Fulani man from which clan?
why did none of his children has no fulani name?
Why was he refused by the fulanis to be a member of the Arewa Consultative forum?
why was he rejected to contest as a presidential aspirant in favour of Sheu Shagari?
Think! Use your brain.....
political expediency.

BUT the man SARAKI said that he is not Yoruba but Fulani with his mouth, he even mention the part of fulani land that his father migrated from in that interwiew, is just like Chibuike Amaechi the transport minister saying that he is Igbo but people of SW are telling him that he is not Igbo.

Obdk:


but yorubas said igbos only ve 5 South east states

Those who did, were only quoting Ikweres, Aniomas etc . Some of whom refused to be identified as eboes. Some even seized your properties in PH. Ikweres seized your properties in PH. I guess they dont like you or dont want to be identfied with you.

Obdk:


but yorubas said igbos only ve 5 South east states

Those who did, were only quoting Ikweres, Aniomas etc . Some of whom refused to be identified as eboes. Some even seized your properties in PH. Ikweres seized your properties in PH. I guess they dont like you or dont want to be identfied with you. You cannot continue to blame Yorubas for your woes, moreso when you have difficulty living in harmony with your neighbours.

Y0ruba:





No! You did not get Islam from Fulani. Islam had been in Yoruba land before Fulanis or Hausa began to take it serious - see Iwo town in Osun state for example. A good number of Yoruba people in Oyo, Iseyin, Ibadan, Osogbo, Ijaiye& so on were mislims before Afonja invited Alimi. In fact, some of the Ibadan army who fought against Fulani army and defeated them in Osogbo & Odo-Otin were muslims; for example Aare Latosa the head of Ibadan army was a muslim.

Contrary to general belief, Fulani, Hausa & Kanuri were slaves across Yoruba land who served domestic purposes & used during wars. They only used Ilorin as a haven when Afonja declared it a safe zone for them which made all of them flock there. When they invaded Oyo they killed people both Yoruba that were muslim & those who were not.

They did not give you Islam o! This is the mistake most Yoruba people make. We think Fulani brought Islam & introduced it to us, no they did not.

The Hausa which our fathers called Gambari, the Kanuri which pur fathers called Kanike & Fulani were used as our slaves when we were practising Islam way before Alimi & Afonja.

Pleas note this.

typical afonja. always trying to change d narrative..

Chidexter:


Lmao. Igbos migrated to a state which is not theirs, so if they are marginalized or anything it's not their birth right to overthrow the indigenous of dat state. That some of them answer ibo names is caused by different things, one being that there must have been different marriages with the other tribe. Once again, ur argument is baseless

see as u shamelessly dey describe wetin u kno nothing abt...

deji17:
But some of them have eboe names? How come? Some of them openly complained of slavery in Benue state and cried out for help busy body.

igbos in benue re minorities.... and live in border town. thr ancestral home.... not migrated like d above mumu stated

deji17:
Those who did, were only quoting Ikweres, Aniomas etc . Some of whom refused to be identified as eboes. Some even seized your properties in PH. Ikweres seized your properties in PH. I guess they dont like you or dont want to be identfied with you.

After the war there was chaos, Ikwerre is just seizing properties of non Ikwerres not necessary Igbos, but other Nigerians turn it into political opportunity to cause permanent enemity and division within the Eastern Nigeria. If a yoruba man own land or property in Ikwerre area that time he will also lose his properties or investment.It is just a chaos and grab i grab that normally occur where there is breakdown of law.

Odingo1:

After the war there was chaos, Ikwerre is just seizing properties of non Ikwerres not necessary Igbos, but other Nigerians turn it into political opportunity to cause permanent enemity and division within the Eastern Nigeria. If a yoruba man own land or property in Ikwerre area that time he will also lose his properties or investment.

Tell that to Beerfrauds that has made abandoned property a talking point and listed it as one of the bad things done to them.

everybody should strive for d good of himself and family and forget about tribal wars. tribal wars have no endings and could only get complicated leaving in its trail destructions, loss of lives and gross underdevelopment/ regrets.
And at d end of it all oyimbo ppl will call u animals after u must have used their AK47s to destroy and help reduce ur populations to their amazement ,joy and comfort

engrchykae:
the case for illorin and the original hausa indigenes of the northwest and the rest of the north is CLOSED.
The fulani happened to be the smartest and politically adept people.
When they want to subdue an enemy,they do so completely.
They arrest political power by installing an emir.
They arrest religious power by being in complete control of the Islamic religion,the imams and sultans are the exclusive of the fulanis.
Then lastly they seize economic power by owning the lands which is the instrument of production.
This method was so potent that Ibrahim Shekarau was the first and only hausa to become kano state governor.

Ibrahim is from Borno.. He's Babur

Obdk:



see as u shamelessly dey describe wetin u kno nothing abt...







igbos in benue re minorities.... and live in border town. thr ancestral home.... not migrated like d above mumu stated

Why do you sound so vexed.? I leave in Nsukka ND know a lot about this than u do. We share same border, but what part of the border do these igbos stay? Is it not the Benue part . Is that not migration?? It would be much better if u can convey ur message without the insults, at least try to act like a literate, you never can tell what might happen someday. Cheers

Chidexter:

Much better option. Well respected, and honest traditional rulers

whr will u find such in afonjaland

Odingo1:

BUT the man SARAKI said that he is not Yoruba but Fulani with his mouth, he even mention the part of fulani land that his father migrated from in that interwiew, is just like Chibuike Amaechi the transport minister saying that he is Igbo but people of SW are telling him that he is not Igbo.

Are you aware of what politcians say with their mouth? if you understood ilorin politics as it relates Northern regional government pre independence, you would hardly be surprised.
By the way, SW aren't insinuating Amaechi is not igbo rather ikwerres are denying their being Igbo.

Chidexter:


Why do you sound so vexed.? I leave in Nsukka ND know a lot about this than u do. We share same border, but what part of the border do these igbos stay? Is it not the Benue part . Is that not migration?? It would be much better if u can convey ur message without the insults, at least try to act like a literate, you never can tell what might happen someday. Cheers

sorry

deji17:
Those who did, were only quoting Ikweres, Aniomas etc . Some of whom refused to be identified as eboes. Some even seized your properties in PH. Ikweres seized your properties in PH. I guess they dont like you or dont want to be identfied with you. You cannot continue to blame Yorubas for your woes, moreso when you have difficulty living in harmony with your neighbours.

have u ever heard Igbos fight wit any neighbour... have u seen or heard igalla of Anambra state complain even wen they are tiny minority. not up to 0.5% of d state

Quality20:
everybody should strive for d good of himself and family and forget about tribal wars. tribal wars have no endings and could only get complicated leaving in its trail destructions, loss of lives and gross underdevelopment/ regrets.
And at d end of it all oyimbo ppl will call u animals after u must have used their AK47s to destroy and help reduce ur populations to their amazement ,joy and comfort

If you don't defend your ancestral territorial land, how do you intend to strive for the good of yourself and your family

Sunymoore:

Yeah.. You spoke the truth.. But still, is not a lost cause.. The illiterates and the poors need education and leadership to see how things are played

Wat do u guys think Radio Biafra hausa is doing

Over 90% of Ilorin indigenes are of
Yoruba ancestry. The so-called Fulani
being referred to in Ilorin are actually of
mixed blood (Yoruba/Fulani) and Yoruba
is the language that is spoken in Ilorin
because it is part of Yorubaland - right up
to Jebba on the banks of River Niger where
there is an Oba of Jebba, Kwara State.

Abdulfatah Ahmed the Governor of Kwara
State is a Yorubaman from Share. Even Sen. Bukola Saraki's
grandfather who was the leader of Nigerians
in Côte d' Ivoire in the early 1960s was
originally from Abeokuta before migrating to
Ilorin for Quranic studies! This is an open
secret in Kwara state. Bukola Saraki's mother
is from the Royal family in Owo, Ondo State.
I mean the Olagbegi Royal Family!


The late Dr. Olusola Saraki's mother is from Iseyin [Agarawu Compound, which is a Royal House]
in Oyo State. I have an August 15, 1998 Saturday GUARDIAN, page 12 interview
where Dr. Olusola Saraki said if the majority of
Yoruba of Kwara and Kogi choose to join their kith and kin in
the West in a boundary adjustment, he is in support of it because he
considers himself a part of the West. He even
made reference to his ancestral link with
Abeokuta in that interview... But he only made
reference to his father's grandmother [Dr. Olusola Saraki's paternal great grandmother]
as being the daughter of Baase in Lafenwa, Abeokuta!


Even the British colonialists indicated in
the colonial records and archives that
Ilorin is a Yoruba town! Sir Allan Burns
also indicated this is his book "History of
Nigeria" so there is NO need to fight or
kill anyone.


The battle should be a LEGAL and intellectual
battle by using the historical documents that
the British left which clearly indicate that
Ilorin is a Yoruba town! A referendum will
be done and the Yoruba Oba will come
into being. This is what the Ekundayo
Panel suggested. You can Google the
results of the Justice Ekundayo Panel
on the Ilorin Chieftaincy struggle online.


Sir Allan Burns was the Acting Governor General
of Nigeria and also the Governor of Gold Coast
so he was saying the right thing.


I hope this helps.

Y0ruba:





No! You did not get Islam from Fulani. Islam had been in Yoruba land before Fulanis or Hausa began to take it serious - see Iwo town in Osun state for example. A good number of Yoruba people in Oyo, Iseyin, Ibadan, Osogbo, Ijaiye& so on were mislims before Afonja invited Alimi. In fact, some of the Ibadan army who fought against Fulani army and defeated them in Osogbo & Odo-Otin were muslims; for example Aare Latosa the head of Ibadan army was a muslim.

Contrary to general belief, Fulani, Hausa & Kanuri were slaves across Yoruba land who served domestic purposes & used during wars. They only used Ilorin as a haven when Afonja declared it a safe zone for them which made all of them flock there. When they invaded Oyo they killed people both Yoruba that were muslim & those who were not.

They did not give you Islam o! This is the mistake most Yoruba people make. We think Fulani brought Islam & introduced it to us, no they did not.

The Hausa which our fathers called Gambari, the Kanuri which pur fathers called Kanike & Fulani were used as our slaves when we were practising Islam way before Alimi & Afonja.

Pleas note this.

Spot on. you know your history.